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On MFL is there anyway to find out if the commish looked at blind bid dollars prior to waivers being ran? Our commish bid $1 more than other owners on 5 players. I wouldn't be questioning it if he bid $5 on all the players, but it was all random number. TIA

 
Go to Reports>Rules>League Bylaws

Under abilities setup on the bottom it will say "Yes, the commissioner has given up his ability to view pending owner-initiated transactions." if he can NOT see anything.

If it says "No, the commissioner still has the ability to view pending owner-initiated transactions." then he would be able to see it.

 
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I think the only way to see pending blind bids is for the commish to do a lockout change and the league should be emailed when he does that.ver if he never locked himself out then he could see it.

 
I haven't commished a league in a few years but there used to be a commissioner lockout function. Whenever it was changed, the league received an email. If it's still there, check to see if your league is using it.

 
I know the Commish should lock himself out of Commish features, and everyone in the league gets a notice when this happens. I assume that looking at blind bidding is a commish feature. What were the bids?

 
The commish isn't locked out, and hasn't been at all this season. Knowing that, is there anyway to find out if the commish did peak? Regardless I am going to suggest we do the lockout.

 
I know the Commish should lock himself out of Commish features, and everyone in the league gets a notice when this happens. I assume that looking at blind bidding is a commish feature. What were the bids?
Collie- won with 36- 2nd place 35Mark Clayton- won with 8- Second place 7Kiwanuka- Won with 12- second place 11Brandon Lloyd- Won with 3- Second place 2Hillis- Won with 18- Second place 17I wouldn't have a problem if there was some system to the bids, but as you can see there is none.
 
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I know the Commish should lock himself out of Commish features, and everyone in the league gets a notice when this happens. I assume that looking at blind bidding is a commish feature. What were the bids?
Collie- won with 36- 2nd place 35Mark Clayton- won with 8- Second place 7Kiwanuka- Won with 12- second place 11Brandon Lloyd- Won with 3- Second place 2Hillis- Won with 18- Second place 17I wouldn't have a problem if there was some system to the bids, but as you can see there is none.
It doesn't look good. I would defeinitely suggest locking out the commissioner from seeing blind bids.
 
I know the Commish should lock himself out of Commish features, and everyone in the league gets a notice when this happens. I assume that looking at blind bidding is a commish feature. What were the bids?
Collie- won with 36- 2nd place 35Mark Clayton- won with 8- Second place 7Kiwanuka- Won with 12- second place 11Brandon Lloyd- Won with 3- Second place 2Hillis- Won with 18- Second place 17I wouldn't have a problem if there was some system to the bids, but as you can see there is none.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here with the following definitive conclusions:1) Your commish cheated2) Your commish is an idiotI'd have him removed from the league at once and request your $$ back.
 
The commish isn't locked out, and hasn't been at all this season. Knowing that, is there anyway to find out if the commish did peak? Regardless I am going to suggest we do the lockout.
There is not a way to find out if the commish looked.I am a commish in 3 leagues and it was brought up last year that I was not locked out (I didn't really know about the option at the time). When was brought up in 2 leagues I was more than happy to lock my self out of all 3. Even though I was not looking at anything, I didn't want to make it look like I even had a chance to do so as the integrity of the league itself would be gone.Please suggest it in your league, if there is resistance by the commish, I would say there is a good chance he was peaking. He shouldn't even put it to a vote, he should just do it once it's suggested.FYI, anytime an owner makes a mistake and the commish has to make a move for that owner, he will have to give himself the ability to see pending transactions. If he does this, an e-mail will be sent to everyone in the league when he can see, and then again when he puts it back.
 
I'm curious why he would want all five guys? It looks like he was trying to be an a-h0le and a cheating loser.

 
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I know the Commish should lock himself out of Commish features, and everyone in the league gets a notice when this happens. I assume that looking at blind bidding is a commish feature. What were the bids?
Collie- won with 36- 2nd place 35Mark Clayton- won with 8- Second place 7Kiwanuka- Won with 12- second place 11Brandon Lloyd- Won with 3- Second place 2Hillis- Won with 18- Second place 17I wouldn't have a problem if there was some system to the bids, but as you can see there is none.
How do you see what everyone bid on MFL? or did everyone just tell you what 2nd place was?
 
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The commish isn't locked out, and hasn't been at all this season. Knowing that, is there anyway to find out if the commish did peak? Regardless I am going to suggest we do the lockout.
There is not a way to find out if the commish looked.I am a commish in 3 leagues and it was brought up last year that I was not locked out (I didn't really know about the option at the time). When was brought up in 2 leagues I was more than happy to lock my self out of all 3. Even though I was not looking at anything, I didn't want to make it look like I even had a chance to do so as the integrity of the league itself would be gone.Please suggest it in your league, if there is resistance by the commish, I would say there is a good chance he was peaking. He shouldn't even put it to a vote, he should just do it once it's suggested.FYI, anytime an owner makes a mistake and the commish has to make a move for that owner, he will have to give himself the ability to see pending transactions. If he does this, an e-mail will be sent to everyone in the league when he can see, and then again when he puts it back.
Also, if he asks how to change so he's locked out, he needs to go to: For Commissioners>Setup. Then, under Commissioner/Franchise Setup, click on Abilities Setup. On the bottom, there is a Commissioner Abilities box with the Lockout. Yes to be able to view, No to lock himself out.
 
I know the Commish should lock himself out of Commish features, and everyone in the league gets a notice when this happens. I assume that looking at blind bidding is a commish feature. What were the bids?
Collie- won with 36- 2nd place 35Mark Clayton- won with 8- Second place 7Kiwanuka- Won with 12- second place 11Brandon Lloyd- Won with 3- Second place 2Hillis- Won with 18- Second place 17I wouldn't have a problem if there was some system to the bids, but as you can see there is none.
How do you see what everyone bid on MFL? or did everyone just tell you what 2nd place was?
I go to Reports>Franchise>Previously Processed Waivers and you can see all the bids. I'm assuming that he didn't know I could check it. I sent MFL an email to see if they can check and see if he peaked, but I'm not hopeful to get anything back.
 
Looks like he cheated but does MFL have an ebay style bidding system?

You pu tin your max to bid and if it's higher than someone elses you get the player for the second highest plus 1.

Still think he cheated

 
I'm curious why he would want all five guys? It looks like he was trying to be an a-h0le and a cheating loser.
He is very weak at WR, so I can definitely see why he wanted the WR's. It is a very big play IDP league (10 pts. per sack) so Kiwanuka was a solid pickup also. He owns Harrison, so Hillis is a no brainer also.
 
Most certainly he could see the bids if he wasn't locked out, as others have mentioned.

I looked for a "proxy" blind bidding option on MFL, but didn't see one. That COULD explain the numbers you see easily (the proxy bid of $100 would automatically be reduced to $1 over the next highest bid in a "proxy" scenario). But like I said, I didn't see one, so I'd have to agree that the results are exceedingly fishy (unless I missed a proxy option somewhere).

 
Is this someone you want in your league? So far we have learned he's a cheater, and idiot, and a d0uche.
Not really anymore. It is a league that started about 25 years ago in the years of getting a USA today and doing the stats yourself, so we are all pretty tight. He is a newer addition, but he is also the son of another member. We rotate commish duties every now and then, so I guess I'm just going to suggest the commish lockout and have someone else take over the duties next year. League dues are $100 and it is very competitive, but I don't want to cause a big fight amongst friends if it can be avoided. Heck, if he cheated to pick up guys like Lloyd he can have them.
 
Most certainly he could see the bids if he wasn't locked out, as others have mentioned.I looked for a "proxy" blind bidding option on MFL, but didn't see one. That COULD explain the numbers you see easily (the proxy bid of $100 would automatically be reduced to $1 over the next highest bid in a "proxy" scenario). But like I said, I didn't see one, so I'd have to agree that the results are exceedingly fishy (unless I missed a proxy option somewhere).
We didn't have a proxy last year, and it should've carried over from that league. Regardless, I will ask if we have one.
 
Is this someone you want in your league? So far we have learned he's a cheater, and idiot, and a d0uche.
Not really anymore. It is a league that started about 25 years ago in the years of getting a USA today and doing the stats yourself, so we are all pretty tight. He is a newer addition, but he is also the son of another member. We rotate commish duties every now and then, so I guess I'm just going to suggest the commish lockout and have someone else take over the duties next year. League dues are $100 and it is very competitive, but I don't want to cause a big fight amongst friends if it can be avoided. Heck, if he cheated to pick up guys like Lloyd he can have them.
That's unfortunate. You know your league and your friends but this is NOT a guy I'd want in my league. Just removing his commish duties next year isn't enough, IMO. This guy is using his power to his advantage to cheat friends and to cheat them out of their money. If you guys have a draft party and you saw this guy steal some money out of someone's wallet, would you not say anything because "you don't want to cause a big fight amongst friends"? I'd be pretty pissed if you didn't bring it up, tbh. And what he did is really no different.
 
I know the Commish should lock himself out of Commish features, and everyone in the league gets a notice when this happens. I assume that looking at blind bidding is a commish feature. What were the bids?
Collie- won with 36- 2nd place 35Mark Clayton- won with 8- Second place 7Kiwanuka- Won with 12- second place 11Brandon Lloyd- Won with 3- Second place 2Hillis- Won with 18- Second place 17I wouldn't have a problem if there was some system to the bids, but as you can see there is none.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here with the following definitive conclusions:1) Your commish cheated2) Your commish is an idiotI'd have him removed from the league at once and request your $$ back.
I'm guessing that he didn't lose out on any bids either. What a maroon - doesn't even try and obscure the fact that he's a cheating #@*%#.
 
Sadly, this doesn't look good, but I don't think there is anything you can do to prove anything. I'm unaware of any features out there to ensure beating the bids by a minimum amount. At a minimum, I'd request that he turn the lockout on. If he refuses that, I'd ask for my money back. I keep the lock on in the league I commish if for no other reason that sometimes I forget I'm in commish mode and I'm afraid of accidentally hitting a screen where I could see something I shouldn't. I occasionally have to switch the lockout off if I need to help someone who's having problems, but that's usually right before games start and I switch it right back.

 
I know the Commish should lock himself out of Commish features, and everyone in the league gets a notice when this happens. I assume that looking at blind bidding is a commish feature. What were the bids?
Collie- won with 36- 2nd place 35Mark Clayton- won with 8- Second place 7Kiwanuka- Won with 12- second place 11Brandon Lloyd- Won with 3- Second place 2Hillis- Won with 18- Second place 17I wouldn't have a problem if there was some system to the bids, but as you can see there is none.
How do you see what everyone bid on MFL? or did everyone just tell you what 2nd place was?
It's an option to allow all league members to see all of the bids or just the winning bid.
 
Go to Reports>Rules>League BylawsUnder abilities setup on the bottom it will say "Yes, the commissioner has given up his ability to view pending owner-initiated transactions." if he can NOT see anything.If it says "No, the commissioner still has the ability to view pending owner-initiated transactions." then he would be able to see it.
As a Commish, I would like to turn this feature on, so I don't get accused of cheatin, can you tell me where to do it?
 
Go to Reports>Rules>League BylawsUnder abilities setup on the bottom it will say "Yes, the commissioner has given up his ability to view pending owner-initiated transactions." if he can NOT see anything.If it says "No, the commissioner still has the ability to view pending owner-initiated transactions." then he would be able to see it.
As a Commish, I would like to turn this feature on, so I don't get accused of cheatin, can you tell me where to do it?
I put it in my 2nd post I think in this thread:"Also, if he asks how to change so he's locked out, he needs to go to: For Commissioners>Setup. Then, under Commissioner/Franchise Setup, click on Abilities Setup. On the bottom, there is a Commissioner Abilities box with the Lockout. Yes to be able to view, No to lock himself out."
 
riot like it was 92 in LA. I would automatically petition to remove him as commish. I'm sure MFL isn't proxy bid style like ebay, what you bid is what you spend. He's a cheater. Interesting though, he bid on some mediocre players....

post your concerns on the message board on your league site so everyone knows.

 
I know the Commish should lock himself out of Commish features, and everyone in the league gets a notice when this happens. I assume that looking at blind bidding is a commish feature. What were the bids?
Collie- won with 36- 2nd place 35Mark Clayton- won with 8- Second place 7Kiwanuka- Won with 12- second place 11Brandon Lloyd- Won with 3- Second place 2Hillis- Won with 18- Second place 17I wouldn't have a problem if there was some system to the bids, but as you can see there is none.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here with the following definitive conclusions:1) Your commish cheated2) Your commish is an idiotI'd have him removed from the league at once and request your $$ back.
This. Kill your commish.
 
I think it has to be put out into the open. There's no way he's $1 over on 5 different players. He needs to be checked and let the league figure out what to do. I'd post something on the message board.

 
I would do one of two things. Either kick him out of the league or quit yourself. No way would I play in a league with a commish who would do that. Since he probably won't bow out gracefully, you may have to get everyone else to join a different MFL league, load the current players, find another owner and move on without him. There are no second chances for cheating, especially from the commish.

 
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That's unfortunate. You know your league and your friends but this is NOT a guy I'd want in my league. Just removing his commish duties next year isn't enough, IMO. This guy is using his power to his advantage to cheat friends and to cheat them out of their money. If you guys have a draft party and you saw this guy steal some money out of someone's wallet, would you not say anything because "you don't want to cause a big fight amongst friends"? I'd be pretty pissed if you didn't bring it up, tbh. And what he did is really no different.
:popcorn: I can understand if you want to give the guy a second chance after this is brought to light, but it definitely needs to be addressed. Since it is 99.9% obivious that he cheated (the odds of him being within a dollar on 5 separate bids is far too impossible), the most fair outcome would be to make him reverse those 5 transactions and give the player to the 2nd place bidder. Since you can't prove his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt and he most likely won't confess, you'll have to settle for him locking himself out this year and making sure he is never commissioner again.Try emailing him directly first as a courtesy(undeserved in my opinion), and if that doesn't work, put your concern on the message board or a group email to the other members. Let us know how it turns out.
 
Who has 5 guys that they can cut 1 week into the season??? In addition to being a cheater, it would appear that he isn't very good at this fantasy football stuff either.

 
Who has 5 guys that they can cut 1 week into the season??? In addition to being a cheater, it would appear that he isn't very good at this fantasy football stuff either.
If the Commish is not a cheater, he should go Vegas because he is the luckiest SOB on the planet.
 
If this was a league where you didn't know anyone, I'd handle it much differently then one that is full of friends.

Given that this is a 25 year old, all friends league, you don't want the actions of one bad apple to ruin a league that's been great for over 2 decades.

If it were me, I'd simply ask him personally if the lock out is turned on and if it isn't, to please turn it on. If he turns it on, the league will be automatically notified. You can then talk to others in the league personally about why you did asked for the lock out to be in place and why you don't think he would make a good commish next year and why you don't think he should be a part of the league going forward.

If everyone wasn't friends, I would say this guy needs to be bounced out of the league ASAP. But if you throw a public fit over it, it's virtually a lock to rip the league apart. This guy is the son of another member, you have to assume that the father will side with the son no matter what. That's 2 owners out right there. I would think they are close friends with others in the league which could cause more divided loyalties. With close friends, some aren't going to believe cheating no matter what.

To minimize the damage, handle it calmly and quickly, but don't cause any fireworks. In my opinion, fireworks will only allow the actions of one new person to ruin a rare league of 25 years of close friends.

 
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If this was a league where you didn't know anyone, I'd handle it much differently then one that is full of friends.Given that this is a 25 year old, all friends league, you don't want the actions of one bad apple to ruin a league that's been great for over 2 decades.If it were me, I'd simply ask him personally if the lock out is turned on and if it isn't, to please turn it on. If he turns it on, the league will be automatically notified. You can then talk to others in the league personally about why you did asked for the lock out to be in place and why you don't think he would make a good commish next year and why you don't think he should be a part of the league going forward.If everyone wasn't friends, I would say this guy needs to be bounced out of the league ASAP. But if you throw a public fit over it, it's virtually a lock to rip the league apart. This guy is the son of another member, you have to assume that the father will side with the son no matter what. That's 2 owners out right there. I would think they are close friends with others in the league which could cause more divided loyalties. With close friends, some aren't going to believe cheating no matter what.To minimize the damage, handle it calmly and quickly, but don't cause any fireworks. In my opinion, fireworks will only allow the actions of one new person to ruin a rare league of 25 years of close friends.
:goodposting: I agree that it is obvious that he cheated, but given the long term personal relationships, you want to tread carefully with how you handle it. But, make no mistake about it, something needs to be done.
 
Collie- won with 36- 2nd place 35Mark Clayton- won with 8- Second place 7Kiwanuka- Won with 12- second place 11Brandon Lloyd- Won with 3- Second place 2Hillis- Won with 18- Second place 17I wouldn't have a problem if there was some system to the bids, but as you can see there is none.
You should be able to check when he logged in as Commish and check when he placed his WW bids. If they were at the same time, you have more fuel to feed this fire.Not a good situation. Ask for another commish to take over????
 
"'Thanks everyone. I didn't realize there were different login modes. I logged in the first time I set the league up and have been logged in ever since.

No problem. The biggest problem with doing team functions while logged in as the commish is that the commish login can break all the rules. For example, you can make a waiver move as commish even if none are allowed at that time. So it makes it easy to do a "mistake" when logged in as commish.

Personally I only log in as commish when I need to update the league article, create a poll or do some other commish function like make a transaction for an owner that might be out of town and even then I'll log in as that owner's team with the commish password to again prevent any problems.

Hope those tips help'"

I just copied the above from the forum. I would believe that you should be able to chk bids signed in like that BUT I also would believe that if I set my bid at the max, I should only pay one dollar more for the player thn the second highest bid. I would believe desire overrides skill in what the players actually worth (simliar to aunction draft)

 
You should kick him out and his father. The person is a cheater. That #### is genetic. Even if the dad doesn't have cheat genes, he clearly failed to teach him right from wrong and may be a cheater as well. #### those people. You are doing this for the good of the league.

 
Commish lockout is a must. I always send an email to all league members ahead of time and let them know when I will lock myself out. Once it actually happens, a confirmation email is sent. Cheating in fantasy football is ridiculous to begin with, it completely takes the fun out of it. If you cheat, the karma will get you, it always does. Privately confront him, if he refuses to lock himself out, he has to go.

 
I don't understand why MFL can't update their software to not allow the commish to view others transactions, including blind bids, trade offers, etc. I know for a fact other league manangement sites don't have this problem.

Update: I think I'll post that on their support site if it hasn't already been done.

 
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I think the Commish can see who you've bid on, but now how much you've bid. Unless he's locked out, then he can't see anything.

 
There is a way for the commish to exonerate himself. If he put in his bids earlier than some of the other bids, then he would be innocent, as the waiver bids are time-stamped. But if he put in his bids after everyone else, then get a noose.

 

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