Wigglytuff's Gruff
Footballguy
With the Jets about to sign Mike Williams, it seems thoroughly unlikely they'd trade up for a WR now. Presumably this mock was put together before that signing was known.
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MHJ v Nabers v Odunze - Who is truly #1? (1 Viewer)
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When was that signing known? Seriously asking.
ETA-I checked, don't see a signing imminent, just visiting.
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Just want to add something.
When Jeremiah reports that "some" teams have Nabers above MHJ he's not doing it for clicks, likes, follows or controversy. It's what he's hearing. He could be getting duped but he's just relaying what he's hearing.
When he puts out a mock that's him having fun and possibly wanting clicks, follows, engagement and being discussed. Entertainment.
Just pointing out the difference in reporting what he's hearing and a mock.
And it happened like this I'd be a sad Garret Wilson owner and would take Nabers first and relish what could be a great buy low dynasty opportunity on Odunze as many will be turned off by him likely being the third banana year one.
Wigglytuff's Gruff
Footballguy
Yeah, the Jets fan in my life was a little over zealous in reporting this to me and made it seem like they'd locked it up.
Apologies. I do feel like that's his most likely landing spot of the teams he's visiting but certainly premature on my part to suggest it was done.
Gjallarhorn
Footballguy
My vote is for Nabers but only because I like SEC receivers 100x more than Big 10 receivers.
-OZ-
Footballguy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Hearing it from teams who want MHJ to fall perhaps?
Seems like a stretch to me, a lot easier for to just believe there are a lot of people in the NFL just really high on Nabers.
Dane Brugler's one of the people who said he's heard some teams prefer Nabers. He's been saying since November he could see Nabers going above MHJ. Lance Zierlen's first rankings of the year, back in early January, had Nabers as his top player in the draft. It's just not that crazy of a thought and which one goes first I think will just depend on the team making the pick.
I'll just say I think the idea of some teams liking Nabers more then MHJ shoudl be viewed as just how much they like Nabers, not a negative to how they feel about MHJ. Unless they are dinging him for how he's handled the combine, which no one has reported that I've seen, it's not really a stock down situation for MHJ more of just a reflection of how high it is for Nabers who offers a different, more explosive skillset.
massraider
Footballguy
I'll take Odunze with Caleb at QB, no problem
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Or who just want to generate buzz for Nabers.
I have been viewing this from the Vikings perspective and I still wonder if there is a tier break at pick 10 or not.
I think there are 3 QB and 3 WR considered top 10 pick talent. There are 2 highly regarded tackles, not sure if that is 8 or not. A somewhat unicorn at TE but I am not sure a TE should be valued in the top 10.
I know we have discussed this before but I am not sure where that tier starts. Pick 10 and 11 does seem somewhat borderline and those 6 players, the 3 QB and 3 WR likely won't make it past pick 10.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
There are other good WR in this draft.
It will be funny if one of the later guys ends up being the best.
It will be funny if one of the later guys ends up being the best.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
Alright, you're basically the winner of a golden ticket if you have a top 3 pick in non-SF leagues.... MHJ, Nabers and Odunze are all true #1 overalls, just lumped in the same class.
Daniel Jeremiah loaded up his 4.0 yesterday, and it COULD be the final...
He's got it MHJ, Odunze, Nabers.
Didn't comp MHJ to anyone, but called Odunze "Larry Fitz" and Nabers "DJ Moore w the ball"
Daniel Jeremiah loaded up his 4.0 yesterday, and it COULD be the final...
He's got it MHJ, Odunze, Nabers.
Didn't comp MHJ to anyone, but called Odunze "Larry Fitz" and Nabers "DJ Moore w the ball"
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Anyone NOT taking Harrison at 1?
After that draft he's the only option...the other situations are not good
Blick
Footballguy
-OZ-
Footballguy
Short term, sure. Long term it doesn’t get much better than Caleb together for their career. Presuming of course he lives up to his potential.
Harrison's talent and Murray's ability to create chaos will be a fantasy goldmine i suspect
But you are right the Chi pairing might certainly be great long term
-OZ-
Footballguy
I’m just talking situation with Rome / Caleb. MHJ is still the more valuable player by far.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Man, Nabers is only 20 till July.
Not that the other guys are old, but almost a year apart.
Does it matter? Who knows. Odunze still much better spot right now
Not that the other guys are old, but almost a year apart.
Does it matter? Who knows. Odunze still much better spot right now
Mr. Peterson
Footballguy
As of right now I don’t see anything changing 1-4.
Harrison
Nabors
Odunze
Brock
After that it gets tough. Do you go Thomas before Worthy? Can Leggit become a #1 in Carolina? How many targets can Pearsall get in SF?
And do you like any of the QB’s before the WR’s?
After the 1st round I have it like this.
Harrison
Nabors
Odunze
Brock
Thomas
Worthy
Caleb
Leggitt
Pearson
Daniells.
Obviously there will be others drafted that will slot in before others (if Bills take a WR soon, if Dallas or anyone take a RB in 2nd).
Harrison
Nabors
Odunze
Brock
After that it gets tough. Do you go Thomas before Worthy? Can Leggit become a #1 in Carolina? How many targets can Pearsall get in SF?
And do you like any of the QB’s before the WR’s?
After the 1st round I have it like this.
Harrison
Nabors
Odunze
Brock
Thomas
Worthy
Caleb
Leggitt
Pearson
Daniells.
Obviously there will be others drafted that will slot in before others (if Bills take a WR soon, if Dallas or anyone take a RB in 2nd).
efactor
Footballguy
That's how I have the top 7 as well and I pick #7 in a 16 teamer. Fingers crossed someone falls in love with Caleb's situation and grabs him before 7. But not a bad consolation prize in a 16 team league where QBs hold more value.
rockaction
Footballguy
From a conversation I had with Gally over DMs
I had Nabers as number one the whole time. What's crazy is how low I had Odunze compared to most. The Brian Thomas ranking was a ranking that could have made me look like a rock star. Then this September happened. I also had no inkling MHJ would have such troubles in the NFL, but I think I did pretty well here.
"Feb 11, 2024
It's weird. I'm regretting not having picks, but I don't know who I'd really like at 1.11. Now, maybe I'm not picking 1.11 if I don't get Kamara, but I'm likely a playoff team the way the schedule went and I'm not sure I like the 1.07 on down.
To me this class, for our format, goes four deep that I love. Then you've got Bowers and Franklin in Tier Two and a drop if you ask me
This is how I have it pre-combine and pre-consensus
Malik Nabers, Marvin Harrison, Brian Thomas, Rome Odunze, Brock Bowers, Troy Franklin . . .
drop.
That's just me and that's really early."
I had Nabers as number one the whole time. What's crazy is how low I had Odunze compared to most. The Brian Thomas ranking was a ranking that could have made me look like a rock star. Then this September happened. I also had no inkling MHJ would have such troubles in the NFL, but I think I did pretty well here.
"Feb 11, 2024
It's weird. I'm regretting not having picks, but I don't know who I'd really like at 1.11. Now, maybe I'm not picking 1.11 if I don't get Kamara, but I'm likely a playoff team the way the schedule went and I'm not sure I like the 1.07 on down.
To me this class, for our format, goes four deep that I love. Then you've got Bowers and Franklin in Tier Two and a drop if you ask me
This is how I have it pre-combine and pre-consensus
Malik Nabers, Marvin Harrison, Brian Thomas, Rome Odunze, Brock Bowers, Troy Franklin . . .
drop.
That's just me and that's really early."
TVT 0 N S T A
Footballguy
Let's not act like Nabers has been plagued with injury. Nabers is quite a bit ahead of Odunze but Odunze looks good.
Terpman22
Footballguy
I wouldn't say plaqued, but he's missed games in both of his professional seasons now due to injury...
TVT 0 N S T A
Footballguy
Nabers usage has been off the charts. It's difficult to compare because the Giants literally have nobody but I understand. I disagree but I understand.
Nabers can do anything Rome can but I have yet to see the other side of this coin. I think Rome is very talented tho. I just have Nabers in the elite tier and would need to see more from Odunze (or Caleb).
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
Even before the injury, Rome was pulling way ahead of Harrison and slightly ahead of Nabers. Maybe it isn't far due to Rome having the better coach, better offense and for now the better QB out of the three but I at the end of it Fantasy Points wins me games
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
Traded Jefferson away this off-season for Nabers and T Benson. It looked like and awful move for me, then Nabers when off against Dallas and Conner got injured making me look great... then last week happened abd I'm back with egg on my face.
