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So I drafted Michael Bush thinking that McFadden would be a bust for the first week or two, and Michael Bush would come back and take his rightful place as the starter as soon as he was healed. But now McFadden has turned into a monster, and I'm wondering what will happen to Bush once he's finally active. Is there any chance at this point that Bush would get enough carries to be a fantasy starter? Or has McFadden stolen the job?

Oakland homers (and anyone else), your insight would be appreciated.

 
I rostered Bush in many leagues, but agree that McFadden is answering the call. I thought Bush would be the main runner and McFadden wouldn't excel in that role in Bush's stead. But two weeks into the season that appears to not be the case, which makes it a lot easier for Oakland to put Bush in a more traditional RB2 role. Hard to argue for keeping in in standard sized leagues if you have a compelling waiver alternative, but in deeper rosters he's worth hanging onto at least until you see what his role will be upon getting healthy.

 
My best guess is that the two backs will split snaps equally going forward. McFadden has been ok, but not all world. And Bush remains a better three down back. Two games don't change that.

 
I rostered Bush in many leagues, but agree that McFadden is answering the call. I thought Bush would be the main runner and McFadden wouldn't excel in that role in Bush's stead. But two weeks into the season that appears to not be the case, which makes it a lot easier for Oakland to put Bush in a more traditional RB2 role. Hard to argue for keeping in in standard sized leagues if you have a compelling waiver alternative, but in deeper rosters he's worth hanging onto at least until you see what his role will be upon getting healthy.
The main argument against McFadden was that he wasn't durable enough to be an every-down back, but the dude had over 30 touches yesterday. :shrug: I guess an injury could always happen, but it doesn't look good for Bush. The only thing keeping him on my roster now is that there's isn't a compelling alternative on my waiver wire.
 
I would still hold bush considering DMac did most of his damage in trash time wk1 in a blowout loss and destoryed the rams in wk2. I just looked at oaklands schedule and it looks very easy. If DMac gets banged up, I believe Bush could step in and do very well considering the Raiders schedule.

 
My best guess is that the two backs will split snaps equally going forward. McFadden has been ok, but not all world. And Bush remains a better three down back. Two games don't change that.
240 yards, 2nd in the league, has been OK?Schedule has been favorable, but no coach is pulling a guy that is performing. There is no guarantee Bush gets more than a handful of carries when he returns unless DMC gets hurt or suddenly becomes ineffective.
 
My best guess is that the two backs will split snaps equally going forward. McFadden has been ok, but not all world. And Bush remains a better three down back. Two games don't change that.
240 yards, 2nd in the league, has been OK?Schedule has been favorable, but no coach is pulling a guy that is performing. There is no guarantee Bush gets more than a handful of carries when he returns unless DMC gets hurt or suddenly becomes ineffective.
There's more to football than statistics, like winning. Did you see week 1?
 
My best guess is that the two backs will split snaps equally going forward. McFadden has been ok, but not all world. And Bush remains a better three down back. Two games don't change that.
240 yards, 2nd in the league, has been OK?Schedule has been favorable, but no coach is pulling a guy that is performing. There is no guarantee Bush gets more than a handful of carries when he returns unless DMC gets hurt or suddenly becomes ineffective.
There's more to football than statistics, like winning. Did you see week 1?
Not in Fantasy Football world there's not.
 
I rostered Bush in many leagues, but agree that McFadden is answering the call. I thought Bush would be the main runner and McFadden wouldn't excel in that role in Bush's stead. But two weeks into the season that appears to not be the case, which makes it a lot easier for Oakland to put Bush in a more traditional RB2 role. Hard to argue for keeping in in standard sized leagues if you have a compelling waiver alternative, but in deeper rosters he's worth hanging onto at least until you see what his role will be upon getting healthy.
The main argument against McFadden was that he wasn't durable enough to be an every-down back, but the dude had over 30 touches yesterday. :thumbup: I guess an injury could always happen, but it doesn't look good for Bush. The only thing keeping him on my roster now is that there's isn't a compelling alternative on my waiver wire.
Patience grasshopper. two games does not a season make.
 
My best guess is that the two backs will split snaps equally going forward. McFadden has been ok, but not all world. And Bush remains a better three down back. Two games don't change that.
240 yards, 2nd in the league, has been OK?Schedule has been favorable, but no coach is pulling a guy that is performing. There is no guarantee Bush gets more than a handful of carries when he returns unless DMC gets hurt or suddenly becomes ineffective.
There's more to football than statistics, like winning. Did you see week 1?
Not in Fantasy Football world there's not.
But the real world affects the fantasy world, and not the other way around.
 
My best guess is that the two backs will split snaps equally going forward. McFadden has been ok, but not all world. And Bush remains a better three down back. Two games don't change that.
240 yards, 2nd in the league, has been OK?Schedule has been favorable, but no coach is pulling a guy that is performing. There is no guarantee Bush gets more than a handful of carries when he returns unless DMC gets hurt or suddenly becomes ineffective.
There's more to football than statistics, like winning. Did you see week 1?
Not in Fantasy Football world there's not.
But the real world affects the fantasy world, and not the other way around.
They aren't losing because of DMC's 240 yards, that's for sure.
 
My best guess is that the two backs will split snaps equally going forward. McFadden has been ok, but not all world. And Bush remains a better three down back. Two games don't change that.
240 yards, 2nd in the league, has been OK?Schedule has been favorable, but no coach is pulling a guy that is performing. There is no guarantee Bush gets more than a handful of carries when he returns unless DMC gets hurt or suddenly becomes ineffective.
There's more to football than statistics, like winning. Did you see week 1?
McFadden actually had 100+ all purpose yards in the first half against Tennessee. So we're not talking pure garbage time at all. He got his receiving TD in garbage time but he's legitimately breaking tackles and running hard. It's hard to imagine Oakland overlooking one of their very few positive storylines. Wishful thinking for Bush owners, IMO.
 
Not true about DMAC getting garbage stats in week one. The runs were not in trash time. Someone claims the Raiders "Destroyed" the Rams by 2 whole points? What? Please explain?

McFadden is running with great vision and power and is bulldozing defenders left and right. He is showing some outstanding cutback ability and gets better as the game goes into the 4th quarter. Not going to trash Bush, who I really liked, but you are seriously miscalculating McFadden’s growth in his 3rd (and I would add, “breakout”) season. He is the best receiver on the Raiders, tough as nails, and I don’t see what expanded role that Bush would have if all things stay the same. I could see Bush get more GL looks and that isn’t any real news since McFadden only has one TD so far. McFadden is proving the doubters wrong, and I count myself as one of them.

I am a McFadden owner who couldn’t help passing on him in the 10th round, and I think it’s a good time to buy low on M. Bush. He would solidify an incredibly effective ground game. Going forward, I plan on using McFadden as my RB #3, behind Peterson and Best.

Some other random related notes: McFadden was 10/38 at halftime with Jason Campbell as an incredibly predictable checkdown passing game. When Bruce Gradkowski came into the game in the 2nd half, and pressed the defense with downfield passes (with Louis Murphy and Darius Heyward Bey), the offense really opened up. No longer could they stack the box, and the corresponding 2nd half stat line for McFadden looked like this: 20/107.

 
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Not true about DMAC getting garbage stats in week one. The runs were not in trash time. Someone claims the Raiders "Destroyed" the Rams by 2 whole points? What? Please explain?McFadden is running with great vision and power and is bulldozing defenders left and right. He is showing some outstanding cutback ability and gets better as the game goes into the 4th quarter. Not going to trash Bush, who I really liked, but you are seriously miscalculating McFadden’s growth in his 3rd (and I would add, “breakout”) season. He is the best receiver on the Raiders, tough as nails, and I don’t see what expanded role that Bush would have if all things stay the same. I could see Bush get more GL looks and that isn’t any real news since McFadden only has one TD so far. McFadden is proving the doubters wrong, and I count myself as one of them. I am a McFadden owner who couldn’t help passing on him in the 10th round, and I think it’s a good time to buy low on M. Bush. He would solidify an incredibly effective ground game. Going forward, I plan on using McFadden as my RB #3, behind Peterson and Best. Some other random related notes: McFadden was 10/38 at halftime with Jason Campbell as an incredibly predictable checkdown passing game. When Bruce Gradkowski came into the game in the 2nd half, and pressed the defense with downfield passes (with Louis Murphy and Darius Heyward Bey), the offense really opened up. No longer could they stack the box, and the corresponding 2nd half stat line for McFadden looked like this: 20/107.
Not to veer off topic, but when does the Gradkowski era begin and would you agree that he's an improvement over Campbell? I agree with the thought that Gradkowski helps the offense and it's a matter of time before he is given his shot. That said, management brought in Campbell and I'm sure they want to give him a shot to prove themselves right...I'm just curious - are you predicting a Ray Rice / McGahee type of breakdown once Bush returns? NOT comparing value/production, just roles.
 
Bush is in the same category as Peyton Hillis IMO. He would be lower than Hillis because DMAC has greatly outperformed Jerome Harrison, but DMAC's injury history bumps him up a little.

Obviously, if you own DMAC, Bush's value rises above Hillis'.

As for Raiderfan, I have to disagree slightly re: DMAC's running. I'm sure we both watched the same games early in the 2008 and 2009 seasons, and IMO DMAC has always been this effective - when healthy. The problem is he couldn't last past game 2 without getting injured, losing carries, and drastically dropping in production.

 
Bush is in the same category as Peyton Hillis IMO. He would be lower than Hillis because DMAC has greatly outperformed Jerome Harrison, but DMAC's injury history bumps him up a little.Obviously, if you own DMAC, Bush's value rises above Hillis'.As for Raiderfan, I have to disagree slightly re: DMAC's running. I'm sure we both watched the same games early in the 2008 and 2009 seasons, and IMO DMAC has always been this effective - when healthy. The problem is he couldn't last past game 2 without getting injured, losing carries, and drastically dropping in production.
Was it a legitimate complaint that McFadden couldn't break tackles the past two seasons? That was the biggest knock that I heard... it sounds (and from little/brief viewing that I have had, looks) like McFadden is running harder this year.
 
Not true about DMAC getting garbage stats in week one. The runs were not in trash time. Someone claims the Raiders "Destroyed" the Rams by 2 whole points? What? Please explain?McFadden is running with great vision and power and is bulldozing defenders left and right. He is showing some outstanding cutback ability and gets better as the game goes into the 4th quarter. Not going to trash Bush, who I really liked, but you are seriously miscalculating McFadden’s growth in his 3rd (and I would add, “breakout”) season. He is the best receiver on the Raiders, tough as nails, and I don’t see what expanded role that Bush would have if all things stay the same. I could see Bush get more GL looks and that isn’t any real news since McFadden only has one TD so far. McFadden is proving the doubters wrong, and I count myself as one of them. I am a McFadden owner who couldn’t help passing on him in the 10th round, and I think it’s a good time to buy low on M. Bush. He would solidify an incredibly effective ground game. Going forward, I plan on using McFadden as my RB #3, behind Peterson and Best. Some other random related notes: McFadden was 10/38 at halftime with Jason Campbell as an incredibly predictable checkdown passing game. When Bruce Gradkowski came into the game in the 2nd half, and pressed the defense with downfield passes (with Louis Murphy and Darius Heyward Bey), the offense really opened up. No longer could they stack the box, and the corresponding 2nd half stat line for McFadden looked like this: 20/107.
Not to veer off topic, but when does the Gradkowski era begin and would you agree that he's an improvement over Campbell? I agree with the thought that Gradkowski helps the offense and it's a matter of time before he is given his shot. That said, management brought in Campbell and I'm sure they want to give him a shot to prove themselves right...I'm just curious - are you predicting a Ray Rice / McGahee type of breakdown once Bush returns? NOT comparing value/production, just roles.
Oh, I have catalogued a group of postings vehemently supporting the change of QB move from JC to Grads in the Raider thread. If you want to know ad nausea details, go check that thread. I think that Grads is what this team needs, and it wont go far without him. I am skeptical if the Raiders shaky O line can keep him upright for the next 14 games. That’s why it is vital to keep JC’s focus and his head in the game. We are going to need him to get back in there on a moment’s notice. To be fair, he is new and is getting acclimated with his umpteenth offensive coordinator, so it’s a learning curve even for a vet. But observing him, I see that it’s a matter of game speed. He is too slow out of the snap to recognize and react. After his primary and secondary targets are covered, he gets happy feet or throws the ball away. He is easily solved by hounding defensive schemes. He can’t put pressure downfield so the defense cheats toward the LOS. Still, he’s needed as a capable backup, and he might develop…but he needs to ride the pine and learn. Game speed of the NFL is like 90 mph, Grads plays at 100 mph, and Campbell plays at 60 mph. It’s night and day.But to your question comparing the situation to Rice/McGahee…I think that Bush is a lot more talented than McGahee, although not as good a GL back. It all really depends on the QB play, and if it stays Grads as the starter, I think next week’s game at Arizona is a must start for McFadden owners.
 
He is the best receiver on the Raiders, tough as nails,
Since when ? Only time will on this one ...
Time will tell...What I saw was a power back running defenders into the hard dusty Oakland Coliseum infield dirt and get up smiling as the defenders gingerly got up and dusted themselves off.30 rushes, 20 second half rushes. You won't see many nancy's do that, at 5.4 per carry.

 
Bush is in the same category as Peyton Hillis IMO. He would be lower than Hillis because DMAC has greatly outperformed Jerome Harrison, but DMAC's injury history bumps him up a little.Obviously, if you own DMAC, Bush's value rises above Hillis'.As for Raiderfan, I have to disagree slightly re: DMAC's running. I'm sure we both watched the same games early in the 2008 and 2009 seasons, and IMO DMAC has always been this effective - when healthy. The problem is he couldn't last past game 2 without getting injured, losing carries, and drastically dropping in production.
Remember that he broke into the league at just 20 years old. He's 23 years old now, and the turf toe has taken a lot of running backs down over the years, the 2nd year he had knee issues. But now healthy and focused and I'm sure motivated to prove wrong the doubters, he is fired up. Who can predict injuries. They can happen to anyone.McFadden is proving he's the real deal.
 
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Not true about DMAC getting garbage stats in week one. The runs were not in trash time. Someone claims the Raiders "Destroyed" the Rams by 2 whole points? What? Please explain?McFadden is running with great vision and power and is bulldozing defenders left and right. He is showing some outstanding cutback ability and gets better as the game goes into the 4th quarter. Not going to trash Bush, who I really liked, but you are seriously miscalculating McFadden’s growth in his 3rd (and I would add, “breakout”) season. He is the best receiver on the Raiders, tough as nails, and I don’t see what expanded role that Bush would have if all things stay the same. I could see Bush get more GL looks and that isn’t any real news since McFadden only has one TD so far. McFadden is proving the doubters wrong, and I count myself as one of them. I am a McFadden owner who couldn’t help passing on him in the 10th round, and I think it’s a good time to buy low on M. Bush. He would solidify an incredibly effective ground game. Going forward, I plan on using McFadden as my RB #3, behind Peterson and Best. Some other random related notes: McFadden was 10/38 at halftime with Jason Campbell as an incredibly predictable checkdown passing game. When Bruce Gradkowski came into the game in the 2nd half, and pressed the defense with downfield passes (with Louis Murphy and Darius Heyward Bey), the offense really opened up. No longer could they stack the box, and the corresponding 2nd half stat line for McFadden looked like this: 20/107.
Not to veer off topic, but when does the Gradkowski era begin and would you agree that he's an improvement over Campbell? I agree with the thought that Gradkowski helps the offense and it's a matter of time before he is given his shot. That said, management brought in Campbell and I'm sure they want to give him a shot to prove themselves right...I'm just curious - are you predicting a Ray Rice / McGahee type of breakdown once Bush returns? NOT comparing value/production, just roles.
Oh, I have catalogued a group of postings vehemently supporting the change of QB move from JC to Grads in the Raider thread. If you want to know ad nausea details, go check that thread. I think that Grads is what this team needs, and it wont go far without him. I am skeptical if the Raiders shaky O line can keep him upright for the next 14 games. That’s why it is vital to keep JC’s focus and his head in the game. We are going to need him to get back in there on a moment’s notice. To be fair, he is new and is getting acclimated with his umpteenth offensive coordinator, so it’s a learning curve even for a vet. But observing him, I see that it’s a matter of game speed. He is too slow out of the snap to recognize and react. After his primary and secondary targets are covered, he gets happy feet or throws the ball away. He is easily solved by hounding defensive schemes. He can’t put pressure downfield so the defense cheats toward the LOS. Still, he’s needed as a capable backup, and he might develop…but he needs to ride the pine and learn. Game speed of the NFL is like 90 mph, Grads plays at 100 mph, and Campbell plays at 60 mph. It’s night and day.But to your question comparing the situation to Rice/McGahee…I think that Bush is a lot more talented than McGahee, although not as good a GL back. It all really depends on the QB play, and if it stays Grads as the starter, I think next week’s game at Arizona is a must start for McFadden owners.
:thumbup: Thanks for the insights - definitely appreciated.
 
Update on Bush, speculation, not an official report:

From Raiders writer Jerry Mac, when asked if Bush would be ready this Sunday for the Cardinals, best guess is that he'll be out another week.

Comment From GuestGuest: ]

Will Bush play this sunday against the cardinals?

Tuesday September 21, 2010 12:26 Guest

12:27 jerrymac: A tossup. My guess is he'll be out another week, but there is at least some chance he'd play this week.
How close is Michael Bush to playing, 2-3 weeks?

Tuesday September 21, 2010 12:54 RaiderReeks

12:54 jerrymac: I think you might see him in Week 4.
 
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He is the best receiver on the Raiders, tough as nails,
Since when ? Only time will on this one ...
Time will tell...What I saw was a power back running defenders into the hard dusty Oakland Coliseum infield dirt and get up smiling as the defenders gingerly got up and dusted themselves off.30 rushes, 20 second half rushes. You won't see many nancy's do that, at 5.4 per carry.
fingernails.look at his lower body. its a matter of time if he keeps running like this.

 
Michael Bush and Beanie Wells are both in the same situation. they were supposed to be the big guys and Hightower and McFadden were supposed to be change of paces etc. Well both got injured and both Hightower and McFadden have been lighting it up. Kind of leaves Wells and Bush in limbo. Going to be tough for either guy to get the job back. My only fear with McFadden is injury only due to the fact that he is getting so many toches. 30 carries, 4-5 passes. Nothing to do with past injury. If Adrian peterson was getting 30-40 touches a week im not sure he would make it through the season without some injury. McFadden needs Bush to lighten the load a little. In Arizona they use other backs with hightower so less concern there.I see both Wells and Bush getting about 25% of the carries when they return. Hightower and mcFadden have earned the right to start . ( For diclosure I own both Wells and Bush).

 
Looks like this was going to be RBBC all along w the way that McFadden has shined. Best case scenario here is to wait on the thumb to heal and then hope by the time that M Bush comes back McFadden is wearing down. IE- if you can stash him on your roster he may be a serviceable player in the second half.

 
McFadden actually had 100+ all purpose yards in the first half against Tennessee. So we're not talking pure garbage time at all.
No, he didn't. He had 91 yards in the 1st half, and 39 of those yards came in "garbage time," as Tennessee was playing prevent defense. He caught a swing pass for 16 yards with 1:29 left, he gained 9 yards on a draw play with 53 seconds left, and he caught a short pass for 14 yards (on 1st & 25) with 40 seconds left. On each of those plays, Tennessee was playing a soft zone, with corners & 1 safety taking the deep thirds, and LBs dropping to 15-20 yards away from the LOS. So almost 1/2 of his yards came against a defense that is designed to give up short and intermediate gains, to prevent the big play.He got 38 of his 150 all-purpose yards (as well as his TD) in the 4th quarter, AFTER Oakland was down by 32 points.

So to recap, OVER HALF OF HIS YARDS AND HIS TD IN WEEK 1 CAME AGAINST SOFT PREVENT DEFENSES.

In week 2, McFadden was more impressive, with a number of runs over 5 yards, including a 30-yarder. However, the game was never really close. Oakland dominated St. Louis in time of possession, as well as in plays run. Oakland's inability to seal the deal and get points is the only reason the score was as close as it was. St. Louis isn't a good team, so McFadden SHOULD have done well against them. That doesn't mean his accomplishment should be discredited-you need good players to put up numbers against teams like that. To read too much into this performance, however, might also be a mistake.

 
Michael Bush and Beanie Wells are both in the same situation. they were supposed to be the big guys and Hightower and McFadden were supposed to be change of paces etc. Well both got injured and both Hightower and McFadden have been lighting it up. Kind of leaves Wells and Bush in limbo. Going to be tough for either guy to get the job back. My only fear with McFadden is injury only due to the fact that he is getting so many toches. 30 carries, 4-5 passes. Nothing to do with past injury. If Adrian peterson was getting 30-40 touches a week im not sure he would make it through the season without some injury. McFadden needs Bush to lighten the load a little. In Arizona they use other backs with hightower so less concern there.I see both Wells and Bush getting about 25% of the carries when they return. Hightower and mcFadden have earned the right to start . ( For diclosure I own both Wells and Bush).
As a Hightower owner, my speculation is that Arizona has too much invested in Wells to not get him out there. I envision maybe a 50/50 split in snaps but I think Wells is in line for 75% of the carries if he can handle it. I do not think Bush is in the same situation. McFadden is the guy that has the 60 million dollar contract that Al Davis loves. I see Wells coming back to take most of the work but I do not think Bush is going to get anywhere close to 50% of the touches in Oakland if McFadden is healthy.. imo
 
Didn't see the injury, don't know the details, but will McFadden's hamstring open the door for Bush? At least for a bit?

 
Didn't see the injury, don't know the details, but will McFadden's hamstring open the door for Bush? At least for a bit?
It could, although I don't think either will be too useful going forward. The Raiders aren't a great running team, and this looks like an even split.
 
McFadden actually had 100+ all purpose yards in the first half against Tennessee. So we're not talking pure garbage time at all.
No, he didn't. He had 91 yards in the 1st half, and 39 of those yards came in "garbage time," as Tennessee was playing prevent defense. He caught a swing pass for 16 yards with 1:29 left, he gained 9 yards on a draw play with 53 seconds left, and he caught a short pass for 14 yards (on 1st & 25) with 40 seconds left. On each of those plays, Tennessee was playing a soft zone, with corners & 1 safety taking the deep thirds, and LBs dropping to 15-20 yards away from the LOS. So almost 1/2 of his yards came against a defense that is designed to give up short and intermediate gains, to prevent the big play.He got 38 of his 150 all-purpose yards (as well as his TD) in the 4th quarter, AFTER Oakland was down by 32 points.

So to recap, OVER HALF OF HIS YARDS AND HIS TD IN WEEK 1 CAME AGAINST SOFT PREVENT DEFENSES.
Sorry my friend, but who cares? Fantasy football doesn't care. Yards is yards and td's is td's.

 
He held his hamstring and was out of the game. Same hamstring I believe that kept him out most of the pre season and I believe this is his thrd hamstring injury . Hes not a RB to get 25-30 carries a game. Feel sorry for him and give him all the credit. He was playing great.

Darren McFadden rushed 12 times for 47 yards and added six catches for 82 yards before leaving Sunday's game early in the fourth quarter with a hamstring injury.

McFadden was unable to return after pulling up lame at the end of a run. Unfortunately, these types of nagging injuries have plagued McFadden plenty of times before. The door is now open for Michael Bush, who is the goal-line back already, to assume an even larger role.

 
Throughout their career Bush has been the better back. I still think he is. I am not sure either of them can stay healthy even to be featured backs, but it looks like the situation is far from settled.

 
Throughout their career Bush has been the better back. I still think he is. I am not sure either of them can stay healthy even to be featured backs, but it looks like the situation is far from settled.
I'm not sure how you can say this. Throughout their careers McFadden has been injured. We've never really seen what he could do until now... oh wait, now he's injured again!
 
McFadden actually had 100+ all purpose yards in the first half against Tennessee. So we're not talking pure garbage time at all.
No, he didn't. He had 91 yards in the 1st half, and 39 of those yards came in "garbage time," as Tennessee was playing prevent defense. He caught a swing pass for 16 yards with 1:29 left, he gained 9 yards on a draw play with 53 seconds left, and he caught a short pass for 14 yards (on 1st & 25) with 40 seconds left. On each of those plays, Tennessee was playing a soft zone, with corners & 1 safety taking the deep thirds, and LBs dropping to 15-20 yards away from the LOS. So almost 1/2 of his yards came against a defense that is designed to give up short and intermediate gains, to prevent the big play.He got 38 of his 150 all-purpose yards (as well as his TD) in the 4th quarter, AFTER Oakland was down by 32 points.

So to recap, OVER HALF OF HIS YARDS AND HIS TD IN WEEK 1 CAME AGAINST SOFT PREVENT DEFENSES.
Sorry my friend, but who cares? Fantasy football doesn't care. Yards is yards and td's is td's.
i care. it is extremely important information.
 
For those who missed the game, DMC was once again piling up yardage between the 20s. He caught a dump pass and ran something like 36 yards and headed towards the sidelines. He immediately grabbed his hammy before he even got out of bounds, and never returned.

This won't heal overnight, especially for a speed guy like him. Hopefully if you drafted DMC, you also have Bush.

 
Bush looked slow. I think he's only really valuable if he gets 20+ carries and wears down the D. Dmc was tearing it up when he went down(in ff terms). It'll be interesting to see what the offense looks like with bush back there

 
Oakland plays San Diego, 49ers, Broncos, Seahawks, Chiefs over the next 5 games. If Mcfadden tweaked the same hammy he could easily be about a month or so. I think Bush could be a serviceable RB2 and nice bye-week fill in over this stretch.

 
FYI...

"Beat writer Jerry McDonald speculates that McFadden "will likely hand the baton this week" to Michael Bush (seven carries for 40 yards and a touchdown), who looks like a solid Week 5 play if Oakland's lead back is out."

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FYI...

"Beat writer Jerry McDonald speculates that McFadden "will likely hand the baton this week" to Michael Bush (seven carries for 40 yards and a touchdown), who looks like a solid Week 5 play if Oakland's lead back is out."

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Is it correct to say that the Raiders had Bush gameplanned as the lead back through training camp and preseason, and that they will just return to that original setup and continue with it now that Bush is healthy and even once McFadden comes back?Shouldn't Bush be the guy to own now moving forward even through the rest of the season?

 
FYI...

"Beat writer Jerry McDonald speculates that McFadden "will likely hand the baton this week" to Michael Bush (seven carries for 40 yards and a touchdown), who looks like a solid Week 5 play if Oakland's lead back is out."

link
Is it correct to say that the Raiders had Bush gameplanned as the lead back through training camp and preseason, and that they will just return to that original setup and continue with it now that Bush is healthy and even once McFadden comes back?Shouldn't Bush be the guy to own now moving forward even through the rest of the season?
No.McFadden was great without Bush. If Bush doesn't perform McFadden will get his job back in a heartbeat.

If Bush performs as well as McFadden did they will probably split carries.

 
He held his hamstring and was out of the game. Same hamstring I believe that kept him out most of the pre season and I believe this is his thrd hamstring injury . Hes not a RB to get 25-30 carries a game.

400 - 480 carries a year? Who is?
 
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Darren McFadden, RB, Oakland Raiders Sunday 10/3, 10:05 PM CT

Updating an earlier item, Darren McFadden's injury is to his right hamstring, not the one he injured before missing most of the preseason, according to Jerry McDonald of the Contra Costa Times.

Our View: McFadden was allowed to talk to reporters following the game, a possible sign that the injury isn't that serious. McDonald thinks Michael Bush will take over as the No. 1 back Week 5, and he thinks McFadden's run as the feature back may be over.

 
Darren McFadden, RB, Oakland Raiders Sunday 10/3, 10:05 PM CTUpdating an earlier item, Darren McFadden's injury is to his right hamstring, not the one he injured before missing most of the preseason, according to Jerry McDonald of the Contra Costa Times. Our View: McFadden was allowed to talk to reporters following the game, a possible sign that the injury isn't that serious. McDonald thinks Michael Bush will take over as the No. 1 back Week 5, and he thinks McFadden's run as the feature back may be over.
As a Bush owner, I would be thrilled to see him take over the #1 role, but I find it hard to believe that they would move him ahead of Mcfadden if the injury isn't serious, based on the play so far this season.
 
Darren McFadden, RB, Oakland Raiders Sunday 10/3, 10:05 PM CTUpdating an earlier item, Darren McFadden's injury is to his right hamstring, not the one he injured before missing most of the preseason, according to Jerry McDonald of the Contra Costa Times. Our View: McFadden was allowed to talk to reporters following the game, a possible sign that the injury isn't that serious. McDonald thinks Michael Bush will take over as the No. 1 back Week 5, and he thinks McFadden's run as the feature back may be over.
As a Bush owner, I would be thrilled to see him take over the #1 role, but I find it hard to believe that they would move him ahead of Mcfadden if the injury isn't serious, based on the play so far this season.
Me too. Seems like McFadden did a lot more to take the job away from Bush than what Bush has done to take it back from McFadden.
 

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