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Michael 'The Burner' Turner (1 Viewer)

Garts

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251 carries

1088 yards

13 tds

5 games to go

The guy is a top 5 RB easy next year in fantasy drafts, maybe top 3.

He's practically unstoppable at the goalline too, and the team is an up and coming one with Ryan and White on offence too.

He doesn't get many receptions....but really, who cares, he's a BEAST!!!!

 
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If you like MONSTER games sandwiched by subpar games. :) Then go for it. :mellow:

Just messing, I love Turner. He'll go a little too high for my tastes next year though.

 
If you like MONSTER games sandwiched by subpar games. :) Then go for it. :mellow:

Just messing, I love Turner. He'll go a little too high for my tastes next year though.
He can win you weeks by himself...nice to have if you're other guys struggle.He will get more consistent I would imagine.

 
Expected Atlanta to be in re-build mode this season, but HOLY CRAP... Turner a huge part of it and to be a focus of many FF re-draft leagues in '09... Unreal!

 
hello overreaction. Turner is solid and i could see an argument being made to pick him Top 5. BUT, 7 of his 13 TDs came in 2 games, he's on pace for about 375 touches this year, and his Rookie QB could run into the Sophomore Slump next year. AND if you are in a PPR league, it would be real tough to avoid some WRs in Rd 1 next year.

Not saying i wouldnt take him top 5, but i dont know that i would feel real confident in it.

 
hello overreaction. Turner is solid and i could see an argument being made to pick him Top 5. BUT, 7 of his 13 TDs came in 2 games, he's on pace for about 375 touches this year, and his Rookie QB could run into the Sophomore Slump next year. AND if you are in a PPR league, it would be real tough to avoid some WRs in Rd 1 next year. Not saying i wouldnt take him top 5, but i dont know that i would feel real confident in it.
Heh, "overreaction although I might agree" - well done. I think there's some merit in the workload concern, but there's so many other guys whose value will drop - LT2, SJax, Addai, etc. He almost has to be a top 5 RB by default if nothing else. Should be interesting how early the QB/WR runs start.
 
What was his ADP from this past year? 5th rounder? As a RB2/RB3 he is perfect. Huge ceiling, pretty reliable when he has a good matchup. I dont know about top 5 though.

 
hello overreaction. Turner is solid and i could see an argument being made to pick him Top 5. BUT, 7 of his 13 TDs came in 2 games, he's on pace for about 375 touches this year, and his Rookie QB could run into the Sophomore Slump next year. AND if you are in a PPR league, it would be real tough to avoid some WRs in Rd 1 next year. Not saying i wouldnt take him top 5, but i dont know that i would feel real confident in it.
Heh, "overreaction although I might agree" - well done. I think there's some merit in the workload concern, but there's so many other guys whose value will drop - LT2, SJax, Addai, etc. He almost has to be a top 5 RB by default if nothing else. Should be interesting how early the QB/WR runs start.
Good Point. There seems to be massive turnover happening right now with the top guys.
 
It's strange to see him doing so well while LT is struggling.
Here is the weird thing. If SD traded LT to Atlanta and Turner stayed in SD then we would be saying what a waste it is for LT is go to such a bad franchise like Atlanta in the wake of the Mike Vick exorcism and them stating a rookie QB - No wonder he is struggling.
 
The Burner is weird in our league. Very weird. I just don't get any of this.

1) He could have been kept this year in exchange for a 13th round draft pick, and he wasn't. He totally slipped through the radar, even mine, I didn't really notice the owner's weird decision not to give up his 13th round pick to keep him until sometime after the draft.

2) He was drafted in the 4th round.

3) In week 5 he was traded by one of our top always-in-the-playoffs owners to the newbie guy in last place. The newbie guy just jumped from 10th (last) to 9th place this week.

4) Turner is the #1 RB in our league at the moment, for total points.

 
I thought he would be gone by the 3rd round in most leagues this year that I played in. All the I read about him was that he was a big sleeper and usually when that is out there a guy gets picked earlier than his real value. Was going to stay away as I felt would have to reach to get him.

Next year he will be at least a 2nd round pick for most leagues. There is that lack of week to week scoring but when a guy starts putting the numbers he does you can not ignore the production. When you take him you feel that the rest of your team will need to put up points when Turner is struggling.

Ryan may struggle some next year as they should play a better schedule than they have this year. #1 asset for Turner is that he has Mularkey as OC he will feed him the ball and get his yards. Mularkey has always done this when he was a play caller.

 
I think people are making too much of the inconsistency thing - just about every RB has their up games and down games. The bottom line is that he's got nearly 1100 yards and 13 TDs - pretty substantial numbers even for some of the optimistic projections going into the season.

I do agree though that a big concern from a keeper/dynasty perspective is the absence of receptions. That could really hurt in games where Atlanta is being blown out, which of course there haven't been too many at all this year. While there isn't an urgent need with Norwood there, perhaps Mularkey will get him more slightly more involved in the passing game next year.

 
It is funny to read all the comments about consistency. ALL RB's are inconsistent, with the possible exception of ADP. Before anyone dismisses him as a top 5 RB, you should give your list of RB's who merit a higher selection.

He has a nice contract, a team which loves him, a lock on plenty of carries between the 20's AND almost all of them at the goal line. Atlanta figures to only be better next year. I think he is a very solid value going forward, and as has been noted elsewhere, many of the big names at RB are going backwards.

 
Garts said:
Eminence said:
If you like MONSTER games sandwiched by subpar games. :) Then go for it. :shark:

Just messing, I love Turner. He'll go a little too high for my tastes next year though.
He can win you weeks by himself...nice to have if you're other guys struggle.He will get more consistent I would imagine.
This is the right answer, IMO. Atlanta overall will be more consistent next year as they get more comfortable and continue to build the chemistry. Hopefully Sam Baker can come back full strength and stay healthy, and we add some more depth on both sides of the line. This will help keep Turner's lows to a minimum.It's also important to point out that he started off the season in an "every other week" mode. He's now had 4 straight solid outings. That's really encouraging for the FF playoffs.

 
It is funny to read all the comments about consistency. ALL RB's are inconsistent, with the possible exception of ADP. Before anyone dismisses him as a top 5 RB, you should give your list of RB's who merit a higher selection.
I like Turner, especially because he's so good at the goaline, but this statement isn't really true. All WRs are inconsistent, top RBs are supposed to be the consistent ones. And "off" weeks are generally those weeks around 90 total yards, not 40-50 like the Burner sometimes throws up.Turner has put up 4 games of less than 6 total fantasy points. By comparison to the other top RBs, Gore has done it once, Barber has done it twice, Peterson has done it once, and Portis has never put up that few points this year. But what's really telling is that Turner has put up less than 6 points more often than those guys have put up less than 10 points.If Jackson and Westbrook were healthy, I doubt either of them would ever put up a sub 6 point game either given the amount of look they get in the passing game and their ability to rack up yards pretty quickly because of that.Still though, he's definitely a top RB because of his ability to just explode, and explode often. But let's not pretend that every stud RB puts up 40 yard games with 0 TDs every couple weeks.
 
the weeks Turner is bringing his A game I'm winning - and there have been quite a few of those weeks. I see 4 bad weeks .... 8 good to outstanding ones .... This is a league with performance scoring ...

1 49.20 vs Lions

2 11.20 at Buccaneers

3 42.60 vs Chiefs

4 13.60 at Panthers

5 33.50 at Packers

6 15.40 vs Bears

7 Bye

8 12.60 at Eagles

9 31.30 at Raiders

10 27.20 vs Saints

11 30.10 vs Broncos

12 50.30 vs Panthers

 
BuckeyeBrigage said:
He is way too inconsistant. He would not have a place on my team. Consistancy wins championships.
Consistency also wins mediocrity. What good is a team that always scores the same points, but it's consistently less than your competition? Every player has up/down games depending on the matchup, weather, injury, whatever. I'll gladly take a player that *could* blow up on any given week over the player that is just consistently good but never has a huge game.Guys like Turner are the reason I'm #1 in points this year, and have a shot at #1 seed.
 
BuddyKnuckles said:
hello overreaction. Turner is solid and i could see an argument being made to pick him Top 5. BUT, 7 of his 13 TDs came in 2 games, he's on pace for about 375 touches this year, and his Rookie QB could run into the Sophomore Slump next year. AND if you are in a PPR league, it would be real tough to avoid some WRs in Rd 1 next year.

Not saying i wouldnt take him top 5, but i dont know that i would feel real confident in it.
So he got 6 in the other 10 games? That's not really so bad.
 
BuddyKnuckles said:
hello overreaction. Turner is solid and i could see an argument being made to pick him Top 5. BUT, 7 of his 13 TDs came in 2 games, he's on pace for about 375 touches this year, and his Rookie QB could run into the Sophomore Slump next year. AND if you are in a PPR league, it would be real tough to avoid some WRs in Rd 1 next year.

Not saying i wouldnt take him top 5, but i dont know that i would feel real confident in it.
So he got 6 in the other 10 games? That's not really so bad.
In my league scoring you get less points when you get lots of TDs in one game. Also, the longest run of each game doesn't count.
 
Turners success has alot to do with Matt Ryan as well. The Dirty Birds were a terrible running team with the likes of Warrick Dunn and Norwood. Teams can no longer stack the box against the Falcons because they actually have a passing game with Matt Ryan and Roddy White. Kudo's to Arthur Blank for getting this team in the right direction after last years fiasco.

 
Bills_Fan11 said:
So glad I didn't "sell high" on this guy....Crossing my fingers that the Williams brothers are suspended for Week 16.
I sold high on him primarily due to his playoff matchups ... I am sorely regretting it.
 
BuddyKnuckles said:
hello overreaction. Turner is solid and i could see an argument being made to pick him Top 5. BUT, 7 of his 13 TDs came in 2 games, he's on pace for about 375 touches this year, and his Rookie QB could run into the Sophomore Slump next year. AND if you are in a PPR league, it would be real tough to avoid some WRs in Rd 1 next year.

Not saying i wouldnt take him top 5, but i dont know that i would feel real confident in it.
So he got 6 in the other 10 games? That's not really so bad.
In my league scoring you get less points when you get lots of TDs in one game. Also, the longest run of each game doesn't count.
:shrug:
 
He's good, I had a feeling he would be.

I know Forte is an awesome looking rookie, but I'm still scratching my head trying to figure out why the Bears didn't go after this hometown boy in the off-season hard. He would have been a pretty good fit there imo.

The dude's an ox and he has very little wear on the tires. As stated before, kudos to Arthur Blank for not letting this guy get away.

 
Adrian Peterson gave me 4 weeks of Under 10 points: Week 3: 7, Week 5: 3, Week 6: 7, Week 11: 8 (Had highs of 28 & 24).

Michael Turner gave me 4 weeks of Under 10 points: Week 2: 4, Week 4: 5, Week 6: 5, Week 8: 5 (Had highs of 35 & 34).

Peterson Weekly Points: 17, 18, 7, 20, 3, 7, 24, 19, 28, 8, 14

Turner Weekly Points: 34, 4, 28, 5, 18, 5, 5, 13, 15, 20, 35

 
BuckeyeBrigage said:
He is way too inconsistant. He would not have a place on my team. Consistancy wins championships.
fair enough. Now go name 5 RBs that are always near the top scorer every week. Can you name even 1?
 
Peterson is not a good comparison for consistency, partially due to the lack of receptions he gets, but mostly due to the playcalling. LT circa '04-'06 or SJax '06 is consistency.

 
BuckeyeBrigage said:
He is way too inconsistant. He would not have a place on my team. Consistancy wins championships.
fair enough. Now go name 5 RBs that are always near the top scorer every week. Can you name even 1?
Tomlinson, Gore, Barber, and others have put up plenty of duds this year. I'm not sure it gets that much more consistent than Turner.
 
Peterson is not a good comparison for consistency, partially due to the lack of receptions he gets, but mostly due to the playcalling. LT circa '04-'06 or SJax '06 is consistency.
Yes, the 2004-2006 version of LT and the 2006 version of SJAX were consistently studs. Unfortunately they probably won't be available next season.
 
He has 100+ yards and/or a TD in 7 of 12 games. Pretty impressive thus far. My only concern is that they are leaning on him heavilly the past few weeks and he could eventually wear down. That said, he doesnt have a lot of mileage so he should be able to handle it. Quite simply, he looks great out there. His legs keep churning and he almost never goes down on the first hit.

 
Turners success has alot to do with Matt Ryan as well. The Dirty Birds were a terrible running team with the likes of Warrick Dunn and Norwood. Teams can no longer stack the box against the Falcons because they actually have a passing game with Matt Ryan and Roddy White. Kudo's to Arthur Blank for getting this team in the right direction after last years fiasco.
And vice versa...Turner's running allows Ryan to throw downfield too.
 
It depends where you draw the line. None of the other top backs have had 4 games as bad as Turner's 4 stinkers.
:clyde:Marion Barber had at least one worse game and one game just as bad, by my scoring system. He also had two other games of under double digits (exactly as many as Turner).APeterson? 4, 6, 7 , 8. Same number of what are essentially clunkers.Who else is a top guy? Gore? He's been one of the more consistent, but he had a 6 point week and gave us a whopping 3 this week.LT2? 4, 5 , 6. Probably went no lower than 2 overall.I'm not sure who else you would have taken early. Westbrook? In less games he's had 9, 5, 7 ,3Matt Forte has been a surprise and incredibly consistent, but doesn't have nearly the upside.The bottom line is I'm not sure what more you are expecting in terms of consistency. This is pretty much what happens. :)
 
Look for the RBs with the lowest scoring StDev... and you will find Reuben Droughns, Zach Crockett and Rock Cartwright... scoring 0 every week is pretty consistent...

 
He has 100+ yards and/or a TD in 7 of 12 games. Pretty impressive thus far. My only concern is that they are leaning on him heavilly the past few weeks and he could eventually wear down. That said, he doesnt have a lot of mileage so he should be able to handle it. Quite simply, he looks great out there. His legs keep churning and he almost never goes down on the first hit.
Add to the fact that he's as big as most linebackers out there and dishes it out as much as he takes it. I can't imagine there are too many defenses that look forward to facing him.
 
Turners success has alot to do with Matt Ryan as well. The Dirty Birds were a terrible running team with the likes of Warrick Dunn and Norwood. Teams can no longer stack the box against the Falcons because they actually have a passing game with Matt Ryan and Roddy White. Kudo's to Arthur Blank for getting this team in the right direction after last years fiasco.
The Falcons led the league in rushing for 3 years straight in 2004, 2005, and 2006. Vick helped pad those rushing numbers, but Dunn had over 1000 yards rushing in each of those three seasons.
 
It depends where you draw the line. None of the other top backs have had 4 games as bad as Turner's 4 stinkers.
:wall:Marion Barber had at least one worse game and one game just as bad, by my scoring system. He also had two other games of under double digits (exactly as many as Turner).APeterson? 4, 6, 7 , 8. Same number of what are essentially clunkers.Who else is a top guy? Gore? He's been one of the more consistent, but he had a 6 point week and gave us a whopping 3 this week.LT2? 4, 5 , 6. Probably went no lower than 2 overall.I'm not sure who else you would have taken early. Westbrook? In less games he's had 9, 5, 7 ,3Matt Forte has been a surprise and incredibly consistent, but doesn't have nearly the upside.The bottom line is I'm not sure what more you are expecting in terms of consistency. This is pretty much what happens. :shrug:
Don't worry, I'm actually pretty happy with getting the #1 overall back (non-ppr) for a 3rd round pick. That said, none of those backs have had 4 games as bad as Turner's 4 worst. It is a concern heading into the playoffs that he has faced good defenses 5 times and put up stinkers 4 of those times. He gets the Buccaneers in week 15 and the Vikings in week 16 and I can't live with a 5 from a starting RB in either of those weeks.
 
It is funny to read all the comments about consistency. ALL RB's are inconsistent, with the possible exception of ADP. Before anyone dismisses him as a top 5 RB, you should give your list of RB's who merit a higher selection.
I like Turner, especially because he's so good at the goaline, but this statement isn't really true. All WRs are inconsistent, top RBs are supposed to be the consistent ones. And "off" weeks are generally those weeks around 90 total yards, not 40-50 like the Burner sometimes throws up.Turner has put up 4 games of less than 6 total fantasy points. By comparison to the other top RBs, Gore has done it once, Barber has done it twice, Peterson has done it once, and Portis has never put up that few points this year. But what's really telling is that Turner has put up less than 6 points more often than those guys have put up less than 10 points.

If Jackson and Westbrook were healthy, I doubt either of them would ever put up a sub 6 point game either given the amount of look they get in the passing game and their ability to rack up yards pretty quickly because of that.

Still though, he's definitely a top RB because of his ability to just explode, and explode often. But let's not pretend that every stud RB puts up 40 yard games with 0 TDs every couple weeks.
First of all, the worst game Turner has had all year was when he had 48 yards. He doesn't put up 40 yards and zero TD's every couple of weeks...that is a false and misleading statement.In my league, which uses .5 ppr for RB's, Turner has outscored MBIII in the majority of weeks despite the long absence of FJones in Dallas. He has split with Gore. He has a one-week edge on ADP. He flogs Westbrook and SJackson, who have both had many poor weeks. He has outscored LT 5 more times than vice versa. He has better overall stats than pretty much anyone but Forte. He has had 4 subpar games out of 12. He has had at least 23 touches in all but 3 games this year. He has a strong hold on his job on an ascending team. You feel free to pass on him next year because he failed to score 6 points a few times. Define consistency in whatever way makes you happy, but when my guy outscores your guy in the majority of weeks AND has better overall numbers for the year, I like my chances against you.

 
Week 13 is his return to SD as the Falcons play at the Chargers. I dont think he left on bad terms per se, but no reason to think he wont put up another nice week this week.

 
Adrian Peterson gave me 4 weeks of Under 10 points: Week 3: 7, Week 5: 3, Week 6: 7, Week 11: 8 (Had highs of 28 & 24).Michael Turner gave me 4 weeks of Under 10 points: Week 2: 4, Week 4: 5, Week 6: 5, Week 8: 5 (Had highs of 35 & 34).Peterson Weekly Points: 17, 18, 7, 20, 3, 7, 24, 19, 28, 8, 14Turner Weekly Points: 34, 4, 28, 5, 18, 5, 5, 13, 15, 20, 35
This is good information, and I think this says a lot. I actually have both of these players on my team, and I far prefer ADP. But the idea is what is your minimum threshold. If it is 10, then Turner is your guy, however if a number that you see as important is around 6 then it changes drastically since ADP has only had one game below 6 and Turner has had those same 4. Both are great in terms of FF (and in real life) but it is really all about your own personal threshold. Both of these two are also guys who do not catch a lot of passes which I think makes them an excellent comparison.
 
Week 13 is his return to SD as the Falcons play at the Chargers. I dont think he left on bad terms per se, but no reason to think he wont put up another nice week this week.
I posted on a local board that I bet he's offering his oline some nice incentives to make sure he has a good game against his old team. No, he didn't leave on bad terms, but most athletes like to show the team that let them go, exactly what they're missing. I expect a big day from Turner vs SD.
 
2nd round candidate in PPR. I don't see him going in front of buys like Bush, MJD, Forte. I still think Tomlinson goes before him next year, and of course, ADP and Westbrook will be 1 and 2, Gore and Portis will likely be 3-4, Forte could go as high as 5 as could Barber... SJax depends on how he fnishes the year... sprinkle in other borderline guys like Marshawn Lynch AS WELL AS your top 5 WR's and maybe a QB or 2.. I think Turner goes early - mid 2nd round next year. This is for PPR leagues though, but I don't see it being THAT much different in a standard redraft.

 
Week 13 is his return to SD as the Falcons play at the Chargers. I dont think he left on bad terms per se, but no reason to think he wont put up another nice week this week.
I posted on a local board that I bet he's offering his oline some nice incentives to make sure he has a good game against his old team. No, he didn't leave on bad terms, but most athletes like to show the team that let them go, exactly what they're missing. I expect a big day from Turner vs SD.
Chargers looked tough against the run this week. My money is on Turner throwing up another clunker. He has thrived against some pretty subpar Ds and been average to below average against good Ds. Non PPR Scoring 1per 10, 6 per touch1 34 vs Lions - 22 220 2 0 1 6 (#32)2 4 at Buccaneers - 14 42 0 1 6 (#12)3 28 vs Chiefs - 23 104 3 0 (#31)4 5 at Panthers - (P) 18 56 0 1 -1 (#17) 5 18 at Packers - 26 121 1 0 (#28)6 5 vs Bears 25 54 0 (#5)7 8 5 at Eagles 17 58 0 (#11)9 13 at Raiders 31 139 0 (#29)10 15 vs Saints 27 96 1 0 1 (#18)11 20 vs Broncos (P) 25 81 2 0 (#26)12 35 vs Panthers 24 117 4 0 (#17)13-Chargers (#15)14Saints (#18)15 Bucs (#12)16 Vikings (#2)Exceptional games (16 fantasy points or more or average of 100yds and a TD) came against the #32, #31,#28, #26, #17 rush defenses.Acceptable games (9-15 fantasy points) came against #29 and #18 rush defenses.Bad games (8 points or less) came against #12, #17, #5, #11 rush defenses.IMO this tells me that you have an average to above average RB that has played and produced against a soft schedule. No chance I take him in the top 5 next year and as another poster has already mentioned, his schedule includes the AFC and NFC East next year. That includes 6 of the top 10 rush defenses in the league.Good luck .
 

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