Michael Turner (1 Viewer)

[Dragon1952]

So Turner's got to have some additional upside this year with no Snelling or Norwood. Snelling got 87 carries, 44 receptions and 5 TD's last year, and a healthy Norwood would have cut in on some of the action this year too. So even if they really like 'Quizz I don't see how he absorbs all of that. Turner's workload has got to go up doesn't it? Hard to imagine since he got 334 carries last year. And I thought I read where they wanted or he wanted to get more involved in the passing game? Can't believe Julio will affect Turner's role that much.

 

[Truman]

Quizz can't carry the ball for 1 series a game? Turner will still be off the field on 3rd downs and Mughelli is capable of carrying the ball as well. I think Turner's workload may go up but it's too early to say. Falcons could still bring back Snelling or get another veteran if he signs elsewhere.

 

[Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub]

Quizz > Norwood. Not really close either. Norwood's a track guy playing football. Nothing more.

Snelling's still unsigned. Not hard to imagine him ending up back in ATL or them bringing in another back. Quizz is going to see quite a bit of field time this year IMO. Adds a whole new wrinkle to the offense that they've yet to have.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Turner is going to have 18-20 carries a game but I doubt that Atlanta has him carry a load in the 25+ range very often. I am stoked as Turner will stay fresher throughout the season and has a big passing game in front of him now. Look at what the team had when he got to Atlanta and where they are at now. Rodgers will see action and I think 8-10 touches a game between carries and receptions. No reason to not take Turner at the 2.01 in most redrafts.

1,500 rush yds and 15 TDs, money in the bank.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Snelling and Norwood were never big threats to Turner's numbers. Turner's wear and tear and the fact the Falcons seem to be moving towards a passing attack, or at least balanced, are the bigger concerns. I'm not touching Turner at his current ADP this year.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

where did Snelling go?

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

where did Snelling go?

Free Agent. No one has signed him yet.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

where did Snelling go?

Free Agent. No one has signed him yet.

so he could still be behind Turner, lets not get ahead of ourselves yet unless there is a report from ATL saying he wont be back

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

where did Snelling go?

Free Agent. No one has signed him yet.

so he could still be behind Turner, lets not get ahead of ourselves yet unless there is a report from ATL saying he wont be back

Should we assume Randy Moss is still with the Titans until he signs elsewhere? The Falcons have made no attempt to retain Snelling. Not saying he won't eventually sign there but it's clear he's not a big part of their plans moving forward.

 

[the spanker]

Snelling and Norwood were never big threats to Turner's numbers. Turner's wear and tear and the fact the Falcons seem to be moving towards a passing attack, or at least balanced, are the bigger concerns. I'm not touching Turner at his current ADP this year.

Wow big differences on opinion here. He's a guy in PPR I can't get a handle on. I expect the offense to open up the passing game but Turner looked slow last year and far as I know he didn't sustain any injury did he?Frankly right now I'm scared to touch him in the 2nd round.

 

[SigEp316]

Snelling and Norwood were never big threats to Turner's numbers. Turner's wear and tear and the fact the Falcons seem to be moving towards a passing attack, or at least balanced, are the bigger concerns. I'm not touching Turner at his current ADP this year.

Wow big differences on opinion here. He's a guy in PPR I can't get a handle on. I expect the offense to open up the passing game but Turner looked slow last year and far as I know he didn't sustain any injury did he?Frankly right now I'm scared to touch him in the 2nd round.

I'm pretty sure Turner had groin issues last year...and then had offseason surgery going into this year for it. Hopefully it helps his explosion

 

[Possum]

Snelling and Norwood were never big threats to Turner's numbers. Turner's wear and tear and the fact the Falcons seem to be moving towards a passing attack, or at least balanced, are the bigger concerns. I'm not touching Turner at his current ADP this year.

Wow big differences on opinion here. He's a guy in PPR I can't get a handle on. I expect the offense to open up the passing game but Turner looked slow last year and far as I know he didn't sustain any injury did he?Frankly right now I'm scared to touch him in the 2nd round.

I'm pretty sure Turner had groin issues last year...and then had offseason surgery going into this year for it. Hopefully it helps his explosion

can't remember anything specific about an injury, but watching him last year I was really unimpressed with Atlanta's playcalling with Turner and felt it was a definite negative for him. They just seemed really predictable and conservative - seems like 80% of his carries were straight-ahead, between the tackles runs on first or second down or obvious rushing situations. Very little misdirection, counters, outside stuff that I can remember, and they almost never mixed things up by throwing a dump-off or swing pass to him. They also run him out of one-back sets most of the time with no FB to help open a lane, and he was getting hit in the backfield a good bit over the course of the season. Defenses would just load up on the run whenever he was in there and had a lot of success doing that because Atlanta's playcalling never seemed to take that into account.if he was injured, that would probably explain some of that, but I felt he was used pretty poorly for the most part.

 

[Truman]

Snelling and Norwood were never big threats to Turner's numbers. Turner's wear and tear and the fact the Falcons seem to be moving towards a passing attack, or at least balanced, are the bigger concerns. I'm not touching Turner at his current ADP this year.

Wow big differences on opinion here. He's a guy in PPR I can't get a handle on. I expect the offense to open up the passing game but Turner looked slow last year and far as I know he didn't sustain any injury did he?Frankly right now I'm scared to touch him in the 2nd round.

I'm pretty sure Turner had groin issues last year...and then had offseason surgery going into this year for it. Hopefully it helps his explosion

can't remember anything specific about an injury, but watching him last year I was really unimpressed with Atlanta's playcalling with Turner and felt it was a definite negative for him. They just seemed really predictable and conservative - seems like 80% of his carries were straight-ahead, between the tackles runs on first or second down or obvious rushing situations. Very little misdirection, counters, outside stuff that I can remember, and they almost never mixed things up by throwing a dump-off or swing pass to him. They also run him out of one-back sets most of the time with no FB to help open a lane, and he was getting hit in the backfield a good bit over the course of the season. Defenses would just load up on the run whenever he was in there and had a lot of success doing that because Atlanta's playcalling never seemed to take that into account.if he was injured, that would probably explain some of that, but I felt he was used pretty poorly for the most part.

Mike Mularkey ladies and gentlemen!

 

[baconisgood]

Quizz > Norwood. Not really close either. Norwood's a track guy playing football. Nothing more.

Snelling's still unsigned. Not hard to imagine him ending up back in ATL or them bringing in another back. Quizz is going to see quite a bit of field time this year IMO. Adds a whole new wrinkle to the offense that they've yet to have.

Lol.

 

[Scooby1974]

What kind of numbers are we looking at from Quiz in complementing Turner? Is he able to run between the tackles at all? How has he looked in camp?

 

[Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub]

Quizz > Norwood. Not really close either. Norwood's a track guy playing football. Nothing more.

Snelling's still unsigned. Not hard to imagine him ending up back in ATL or them bringing in another back. Quizz is going to see quite a bit of field time this year IMO. Adds a whole new wrinkle to the offense that they've yet to have.

Lol.

Still feeling the pain by taking him in Round 3 of your dynasty startup a few years back??Time to let it go. He'll be out of the league shortly...

 

[Master of Past and Present]

where did Snelling go?

Free Agent. No one has signed him yet.

so he could still be behind Turner, lets not get ahead of ourselves yet unless there is a report from ATL saying he wont be back

Should we assume Randy Moss is still with the Titans until he signs elsewhere? The Falcons have made no attempt to retain Snelling. Not saying he won't eventually sign there but it's clear he's not a big part of their plans moving forward.

According to the linked article, the Falcons have made an offer and Snelling has declined to sign it so far. AJC

 

[Saint]

I'm big on Turner this year, for several reasons:

1. He was dealing with groin issues last year and is saying he feels healthy: Healthy Link

2. The addition of Julio Jones should allow for defenses to focus more on the pass, thereby allowing the pass to open up the run.

3. While Quizz is the backup, he's a rookie (with very limited offseason) and smaller in size. Even Norwood didn't cut much into Turner's workload, and I can't see Quizz taking it either.

All in all, I think he is a safe play at his ADP and IMO, a pick that I think will exceed his ADP and maybe even break top 5 for RB this year.

 

[redBourne]

can't remember anything specific about an injury, but watching him last year I was really unimpressed with Atlanta's playcalling with Turner and felt it was a definite negative for him. They just seemed really predictable and conservative - seems like 80% of his carries were straight-ahead, between the tackles runs on first or second down or obvious rushing situations. Very little misdirection, counters, outside stuff that I can remember, and they almost never mixed things up by throwing a dump-off or swing pass to him. They also run him out of one-back sets most of the time with no FB to help open a lane, and he was getting hit in the backfield a good bit over the course of the season. Defenses would just load up on the run whenever he was in there and had a lot of success doing that because Atlanta's playcalling never seemed to take that into account.if he was injured, that would probably explain some of that, but I felt he was used pretty poorly for the most part.

Just replying to say that I, and the owner of Turner in my league, felt the exact same way about last year.

 

[therokie0070]

I'm big on Turner this year, for several reasons:

1. He was dealing with groin issues last year and is saying he feels healthy: Healthy Link

2. The addition of Julio Jones should allow for defenses to focus more on the pass, thereby allowing the pass to open up the run.

3. While Quizz is the backup, he's a rookie (with very limited offseason) and smaller in size. Even Norwood didn't cut much into Turner's workload, and I can't see Quizz taking it either.

All in all, I think he is a safe play at his ADP and IMO, a pick that I think will exceed his ADP and maybe even break top 5 for RB this year.

LOL what RB in the NFL other than Jacobs is larger than M. Turner!!! Quizz may be short but by no means is he small, he is more than capable based on size to carry a full load in the NFL. Pound for pound Quizz at 5-6 195 is bigger than most 3 down backs, think about it most Backs are 5-11 225. Dare I say Barry Sanders/Emmitt Smith/R. Rice, not saying he will be as good but he has the build of all three of these guys!!

 

[Master of Past and Present]

@AJCFalcons D. Orlando Ledbetter

#Falcons agreed to terms with @JSnelz44 (Jason Snelling) on a one-year deal today.

 

[thehornet]

Quizz > Norwood. Not really close either. Norwood's a track guy playing football. Nothing more.

Snelling's still unsigned. Not hard to imagine him ending up back in ATL or them bringing in another back. Quizz is going to see quite a bit of field time this year IMO. Adds a whole new wrinkle to the offense that they've yet to have.

Lol.

Still feeling the pain by taking him in Round 3 of your dynasty startup a few years back??Time to let it go. He'll be out of the league shortly...

You're wrong. He's going on his sixth year in the league. He is an effective 3rd down guy with big play ability.

 

[identikit]

per PFT, Snelling re-signs with the Falcons>

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/07/jason-snelling-returns-to-the-falcons/

 

[djmich]

Turner is in trouble. Another year older and a lot of recent wear, offense opening up more, Snelling resigned, Rodgers with a lot of buzz.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

where did Snelling go?

Free Agent. No one has signed him yet.

so he could still be behind Turner, lets not get ahead of ourselves yet unless there is a report from ATL saying he wont be back

Should we assume Randy Moss is still with the Titans until he signs elsewhere? The Falcons have made no attempt to retain Snelling. Not saying he won't eventually sign there but it's clear he's not a big part of their plans moving forward.

According to the linked article, the Falcons have made an offer and Snelling has declined to sign it so far. AJC

Signed it this morning. Even more reason to avoid Turner this year.

 

[baconisgood]

where did Snelling go?

Free Agent. No one has signed him yet.

so he could still be behind Turner, lets not get ahead of ourselves yet unless there is a report from ATL saying he wont be back

Should we assume Randy Moss is still with the Titans until he signs elsewhere? The Falcons have made no attempt to retain Snelling. Not saying he won't eventually sign there but it's clear he's not a big part of their plans moving forward.

According to the linked article, the Falcons have made an offer and Snelling has declined to sign it so far. AJC

Signed it this morning. Even more reason to avoid Turner this year.

I think you mean the opposite. Snelling showed his worth in 2009 and Turner went right back to getting almost 22 touches a game in 2010- even though the Falcons knew Snelling was solid and Turner was coming off an injury shortened season. If they were going to rest Turner doesn't it seem like they would have taken the chance a little last year?

Snelling had 87 carries last year and 24 of those came in game two when Turner left early (Turner came back and had 32 touches the next game)- so basically if Turner is healthy for the whole game Snelling is getting 3-4 carries a game, thats nothing in todays NFL.

Instead what you have now is a clear handcuff who is also a guy in PPR leagues that can be an emergency flex (74 receptions and 4 receiving TDs the past 28 games) so he isn't totally worthless on your bench. Snelling signing here makes Turner slightly more valuable as if I was concerned about major injury I can mitigate that risk.

 

[Saint]

I'm big on Turner this year, for several reasons:

1. He was dealing with groin issues last year and is saying he feels healthy: Healthy Link

2. The addition of Julio Jones should allow for defenses to focus more on the pass, thereby allowing the pass to open up the run.

3. While Quizz is the backup, he's a rookie (with very limited offseason) and smaller in size. Even Norwood didn't cut much into Turner's workload, and I can't see Quizz taking it either.

All in all, I think he is a safe play at his ADP and IMO, a pick that I think will exceed his ADP and maybe even break top 5 for RB this year.

LOL what RB in the NFL other than Jacobs is larger than M. Turner!!! Quizz may be short but by no means is he small, he is more than capable based on size to carry a full load in the NFL. Pound for pound Quizz at 5-6 195 is bigger than most 3 down backs, think about it most Backs are 5-11 225. Dare I say Barry Sanders/Emmitt Smith/R. Rice, not saying he will be as good but he has the build of all three of these guys!!

True. Per Sirius ESPN this morning, the ATL GM was discussing the Snelling signing as a back up player, and that Quizz would be the change of pace back to Turner... similar to Norwood's role.

 

[Dragon1952]

I'm big on Turner this year, for several reasons:

1. He was dealing with groin issues last year and is saying he feels healthy: Healthy Link

2. The addition of Julio Jones should allow for defenses to focus more on the pass, thereby allowing the pass to open up the run.

3. While Quizz is the backup, he's a rookie (with very limited offseason) and smaller in size. Even Norwood didn't cut much into Turner's workload, and I can't see Quizz taking it either.

All in all, I think he is a safe play at his ADP and IMO, a pick that I think will exceed his ADP and maybe even break top 5 for RB this year.

LOL what RB in the NFL other than Jacobs is larger than M. Turner!!! Quizz may be short but by no means is he small, he is more than capable based on size to carry a full load in the NFL. Pound for pound Quizz at 5-6 195 is bigger than most 3 down backs, think about it most Backs are 5-11 225. Dare I say Barry Sanders/Emmitt Smith/R. Rice, not saying he will be as good but he has the build of all three of these guys!!

He did add 'smaller in size' to point #3 but I don't think he meant that he couldn't hack it based on size. I think he was implying that Quizz is more suited to a COP as long as Turner is the lead back since we were talking about Turner's workload. The main jist of the statement was that he is a rookie with limited camp time so he would not be likely to cut into Turner's load as much as maybe Snelling had the previous year. In no way can you read into that anything even implying that 'Quizz is too small.

 

[stugnut]

Turner is on my Do Not Draft List (at least anywhere near where he is currently going). Yes, he had decent stats last year. But I watched every one of his carries, and it just seemed painful, watching him put up those numbers. He is going to need a ton of carries to approach what he did last year, and if anything, I see his carries going down. He isn't just going to come out just for a breather. He will be subbed out for entire series, just like last year, but even more this year. He just looks old and slow.

 

[Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub]

Quiz is going to add a great deal of explosiveness to this offense. Guy plays very fast and will be nightmare on turf.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

where did Snelling go?

Free Agent. No one has signed him yet.

so he could still be behind Turner, lets not get ahead of ourselves yet unless there is a report from ATL saying he wont be back

Should we assume Randy Moss is still with the Titans until he signs elsewhere? The Falcons have made no attempt to retain Snelling. Not saying he won't eventually sign there but it's clear he's not a big part of their plans moving forward.

According to the linked article, the Falcons have made an offer and Snelling has declined to sign it so far. AJC

Signed it this morning. Even more reason to avoid Turner this year.

I think you mean the opposite. Snelling showed his worth in 2009 and Turner went right back to getting almost 22 touches a game in 2010- even though the Falcons knew Snelling was solid and Turner was coming off an injury shortened season. If they were going to rest Turner doesn't it seem like they would have taken the chance a little last year?

Snelling had 87 carries last year and 24 of those came in game two when Turner left early (Turner came back and had 32 touches the next game)- so basically if Turner is healthy for the whole game Snelling is getting 3-4 carries a game, thats nothing in todays NFL.

Instead what you have now is a clear handcuff who is also a guy in PPR leagues that can be an emergency flex (74 receptions and 4 receiving TDs the past 28 games) so he isn't totally worthless on your bench. Snelling signing here makes Turner slightly more valuable as if I was concerned about major injury I can mitigate that risk.

You can have Turner at his ADP. I'm not touching him.

 

[Max Maximus]

Turner is on my Do Not Draft List (at least anywhere near where he is currently going). Yes, he had decent stats last year. But I watched every one of his carries, and it just seemed painful, watching him put up those numbers. He is going to need a ton of carries to approach what he did last year, and if anything, I see his carries going down. He isn't just going to come out just for a breather. He will be subbed out for entire series, just like last year, but even more this year. He just looks old and slow.

I agree. I drafted him with my #5 pick last year. While his numbers at the end of the season was great, he had to work extra hard to get his yards. Majority of the running plays called for Turner running up the middle. It was painful to see him get a yard here, a yard there, etc. What saved him was Ryan's ability to get some passes downfield, with Turner finishing in from the goal-line. Furthermore, some ofhis 100+ yd games were a bit of stat padding. He had a couple of long runs (20+ yds) that helped him pad the stats to 100+ yds for the day. Anyway. just my rant. It's very helpful to see exactly how a RB gets his yards.On that note, I loved watching Foster run (Note: I was a big Turner fan when he backed up LT and did awesome!)

 

[Dragon1952]

Turner is on my Do Not Draft List (at least anywhere near where he is currently going). Yes, he had decent stats last year. But I watched every one of his carries, and it just seemed painful, watching him put up those numbers. He is going to need a ton of carries to approach what he did last year, and if anything, I see his carries going down. He isn't just going to come out just for a breather. He will be subbed out for entire series, just like last year, but even more this year. He just looks old and slow.

I agree. I drafted him with my #5 pick last year. While his numbers at the end of the season was great, he had to work extra hard to get his yards. Majority of the running plays called for Turner running up the middle. It was painful to see him get a yard here, a yard there, etc. What saved him was Ryan's ability to get some passes downfield, with Turner finishing in from the goal-line. Furthermore, some ofhis 100+ yd games were a bit of stat padding. He had a couple of long runs (20+ yds) that helped him pad the stats to 100+ yds for the day.

Anyway. just my rant. It's very helpful to see exactly how a RB gets his yards.

On that note, I loved watching Foster run

(Note: I was a big Turner fan when he backed up LT and did awesome!)

Isn't that how RB's usually get to 100+ yds rushing? Seems to me that's a good thing

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Snelling and Norwood were never big threats to Turner's numbers. Turner's wear and tear and the fact the Falcons seem to be moving towards a passing attack, or at least balanced, are the bigger concerns. I'm not touching Turner at his current ADP this year.

Wow big differences on opinion here. He's a guy in PPR I can't get a handle on. I expect the offense to open up the passing game but Turner looked slow last year and far as I know he didn't sustain any injury did he?

Frankly right now I'm scared to touch him in the 2nd round.

fwiw the sports talk guys were saying that one of the bigger surprises of this camp is how much turner has been used on screen plays. (though they did say this last year too)and fwiw Snelling signed

http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-falcons-blog/2011/08/07/jason-snelling-agrees-to-terms-on-one-year-contract/