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Miguel Cabrera DUI (1 Viewer)

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http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2011/feb/17/bas...d-dui-st-lucie/

ST. LUCIE COUNTY — Detroit Tiger and five time All-Star Jose Miguel Cabrera was arrested Wednesday in St. Lucie County on DUI and other charges after sheriff’s investigators spotted his vehicle on the side of the road with smoke coming from the engine compartment, according to records released Thursday.

When a deputy made contact with Cabrera, 27, before 11 p.m. Wednesday on Okeechobee Road, the deputy asked Cabrera who was with him.

“I am going to (expletive) kill him,” Cabrera is quoted as saying.

The deputy saw no one else in the vehicle or in the area. Cabrera, of Boca Raton, grabbed a bottle of James Buchanan’s scotch and started drinking.

Cabrera, a native of Venezuela, played several years for the Florida Marlins before joining the Detroit Tigers, where sources have reported his salary is $20 million.

Cabrera, whose eyes were bloodshot and speech “heavily slurred,” was handcuffed and walked towards a patrol vehicle before being told to get in the vehicle.

“Do you know who I am, you don’t know anything about my problems,” Cabrera is quoted as saying.

A deputy reported Cabrera was put in handcuffs after not following orders. Cabrera also “kept running out in the road with his hands up.”

A deputy asked Cabrera to get his a patrol vehicle, and he said, “(Expletive) you.”

Cabrera pushed off a vehicle into a deputy, who “delivered 3-4 knee spikes” into Cabrera’s left thigh.

In addition to the DUI charge, Cabrera faces two misdemeanor counts of resisting an officer without violence. Sheriff’s officials also issued Cabrera a citation for open container of alcohol in a motor vehicle.

Cabrera refused to take a breath test.

 
I like how the website adds a "Celebrities arrested on the Treasure Coast" sidebar to flip through.

 
Chunky again. I think this guy has a lot of demons. It's not just drinking, it goes beyond that.
Thanks Doctor Laura. He's a drunk, and a violent drunk at that. Doesn't mean he has any demons or that someone touched him when he was a kid. All it means is that he has a chemical dependency issue, just like a bunch of people we all know.
 
Chunky again. I think this guy has a lot of demons. It's not just drinking, it goes beyond that.
Thanks Doctor Laura. He's a drunk, and a violent drunk at that. Doesn't mean he has any demons or that someone touched him when he was a kid. All it means is that he has a chemical dependency issue, just like a bunch of people we all know.
I'm a huge Tiger fan and have been to many games in Detroit and Lakeland. My son is 7 and we go after Tiger autographs all the time. Miggy is surly with the fans and I can't say I've ever seen him sign anything. He's eluded to issues beyond drinking being his problem before, and did it again this time. And angry, violent drunks are typically that way for a reason. He's proven to be very immature his whole career, and there's something just not right with the guy. I'm no Doctor but I just call em like I see em.
 
Chunky again. I think this guy has a lot of demons. It's not just drinking, it goes beyond that.
Thanks Doctor Laura. He's a drunk, and a violent drunk at that. Doesn't mean he has any demons or that someone touched him when he was a kid. All it means is that he has a chemical dependency issue, just like a bunch of people we all know.
Yeah, worked fine for Mantle. Good thing there was no interwebs then.
 
Chunky again. I think this guy has a lot of demons. It's not just drinking, it goes beyond that.
Thanks Doctor Laura. He's a drunk, and a violent drunk at that. Doesn't mean he has any demons or that someone touched him when he was a kid. All it means is that he has a chemical dependency issue, just like a bunch of people we all know.
I'm a huge Tiger fan and have been to many games in Detroit and Lakeland. My son is 7 and we go after Tiger autographs all the time. Miggy is surly with the fans and I can't say I've ever seen him sign anything. He's eluded to issues beyond drinking being his problem before, and did it again this time. And angry, violent drunks are typically that way for a reason. He's proven to be very immature his whole career, and there's something just not right with the guy. I'm no Doctor but I just call em like I see em.
Ah, the old jilted autograph guy.
 
Chunky again. I think this guy has a lot of demons. It's not just drinking, it goes beyond that.
Thanks Doctor Laura. He's a drunk, and a violent drunk at that. Doesn't mean he has any demons or that someone touched him when he was a kid. All it means is that he has a chemical dependency issue, just like a bunch of people we all know.
I'm a huge Tiger fan and have been to many games in Detroit and Lakeland. My son is 7 and we go after Tiger autographs all the time. Miggy is surly with the fans and I can't say I've ever seen him sign anything. He's eluded to issues beyond drinking being his problem before, and did it again this time. And angry, violent drunks are typically that way for a reason. He's proven to be very immature his whole career, and there's something just not right with the guy. I'm no Doctor but I just call em like I see em.
Ah, the old jilted autograph guy.
Not jilted because of myself but yes, I'm a firm believer in the guys that "get it" as opposed to those that don't. This is a kids game, always has been, and when players sign for kids - especially the younger more innocent ones - it is such a thrill for the kids and so good for the game as a whole. Granderson definitely gets it, and my son loves him for it! I don't think Miggy ever will get it.I respect the heck out of guys who take the time to sign for kids. Not the smarmy old guys with their glossy 8.5 x 11's....and these players know who's innocent and who is just looking to make a buck. Autographs and the fact that you can get closer to these guys than any other sport are part of the reason why this is the greatest sport ever.
 
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This is a kids game, always has been
No
Care to explain or are you just a cynic?
The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again. Oh... people will come Ray. People will most definitely come.
 
This is a kids game, always has been
No
Care to explain or are you just a cynic?
The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again. Oh... people will come Ray. People will most definitely come.
It's a kids game if you're a kid. Cabrera is going to make $20M this year playing baseball. It's big business to him even if he acts like a dumb kid.
 
What would you estimate is the percentage of kids at a professional baseball game? 10%?
Way higher than that. 33%, maybe higher.ETA: Assuming we're talking 18 and under as a "kid."
 
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This is a kids game, always has been
No
Care to explain or are you just a cynic?
The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again. Oh... people will come Ray. People will most definitely come.
It's a kids game if you're a kid. Cabrera is going to make $20M this year playing baseball. It's big business to him even if he acts like a dumb kid.
I don't disagree. Just felt like quoting Terrance Mann here. Felt appropriate.
 
This is a kids game, always has been
No
Care to explain or are you just a cynic?
Not a cynic. Just think it is wrong to say it is a kid's game. Especially these days when less and less kids are playing baseball and less and less kids are going to games. What would you estimate is the percentage of kids at a professional baseball game? 10%?
I haven't noticed less kids playing baseball at all. Little leagues and backyard games run rampant where I live.When we go to Tiger games, I'd say it's well above 10%.
 
This is a kids game, always has been
No
Care to explain or are you just a cynic?
The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again. Oh... people will come Ray. People will most definitely come.
It's a kids game if you're a kid. Cabrera is going to make $20M this year playing baseball. It's big business to him even if he acts like a dumb kid.
Disagree. To Cabrera, yeah, it may have become his business. To me it was a kids game when I was a kid, then when I got older into my 20's it just looked like a business and I hated it....now as a father I remember again that it is a kid's game and have grown to love it over any other sport. And like I said before, seeing Major Leaguers who take the time to give a kid just a little scribbled signature, you can see in the reaction from the kids why it's so great. You'll never witness that as much with football, basketball, hockey, etc.
 
This is a kids game, always has been
No
Care to explain or are you just a cynic?
The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again. Oh... people will come Ray. People will most definitely come.
:thumbup:
 
Feel sorry for the Tigers they done a nice job putting a good team together for 2011, and this will come up all season. Cabrera just doesn't learn and there's no excuse for drinking and driving. I wish him well, and hope he gets the help he needs, but I don't think he ever figure it out.

 
Autographs and the fact that you can get closer to these guys than any other sport are part of the reason why this is the greatest sport ever.
To me, these things have almost nothing to do with why baseball is the greatest sport. To each their own, but the fact that the guy doesn't like to give autographs has no bearing on what kind of a person he is or whether he 'gets it'.
 
Lots of dramatics in this thread. He drank too much, got a DUI, will go to AA, and will crush the ball all season long. Some people are acting like the guy's on the edge of the abyss and one step removed from being found hanging from the ceiling with a syringe in his arm.

Yep, what he did stinks and he should pay the same penalty as anyone else, but let's not blow this into some story it isn't. He'll be manning first base in April when the season opens.

 
Chunky again. I think this guy has a lot of demons. It's not just drinking, it goes beyond that.
Thanks Doctor Laura. He's a drunk, and a violent drunk at that. Doesn't mean he has any demons or that someone touched him when he was a kid. All it means is that he has a chemical dependency issue, just like a bunch of people we all know.
I'm a huge Tiger fan and have been to many games in Detroit and Lakeland. My son is 7 and we go after Tiger autographs all the time. Miggy is surly with the fans and I can't say I've ever seen him sign anything. He's eluded to issues beyond drinking being his problem before, and did it again this time. And angry, violent drunks are typically that way for a reason. He's proven to be very immature his whole career, and there's something just not right with the guy. I'm no Doctor but I just call em like I see em.
No offense guy but I don't know anyone who follows the Tigers closer than I do and the only thing I know is Miggy likes the drinky and the stinky, quite normal for a 27 year old. He obviously has a drinking problem, I think he knows this as well. Also he is beloved by teammates, as nice as a guy as they come in the clubhouse. I could care less if he signs your autograph, my autograph or any ####### autographs. His job is to hit and field the baseball, and he's very good at it. I've been very close to sports and in lockerrooms before while working for Fox Sports Net and the perception the public has on some of these guys is ridiculous. Rasheed Wallace and Carlos Guillen are two good examples of how the public doesn't understand what these guys are all about, Rasheed is a peach and Carlos...not so much. I also love the legions of fans who line up with life size posters, sweaters and bobbleheads wanting autographs and the like (many of them looking to profit from it). Before the game is fine, it's great to see a little kid get excited after getting an autograph of his favorite player but a lot of times these are Dad directed and the kid could give a ####. And anyone trying to get an autograph after the game who isn't a hot 22 year old woman is the one who should check for demons (not saying this is you). These guys are rich, young and they want to party. Leave them alone once the game starts and let them do things we would all like to do afterwards. I used to watch as 50-200 fans would try to bully stuff off Red Wings players after the game when they were trying to go home with their wife and kids. #### those fans, give these guys some respect. It's also very unfair to compare Miggy or anyone to Granderson. Curtis is a true ambassador to the game, or really any game. If you start comparing your wife to Jessica Beal it might not end well, same theory applies here. It's just unfair.
 
Chunky again. I think this guy has a lot of demons. It's not just drinking, it goes beyond that.
Thanks Doctor Laura. He's a drunk, and a violent drunk at that. Doesn't mean he has any demons or that someone touched him when he was a kid. All it means is that he has a chemical dependency issue, just like a bunch of people we all know.
I'm a huge Tiger fan and have been to many games in Detroit and Lakeland. My son is 7 and we go after Tiger autographs all the time. Miggy is surly with the fans and I can't say I've ever seen him sign anything. He's eluded to issues beyond drinking being his problem before, and did it again this time. And angry, violent drunks are typically that way for a reason. He's proven to be very immature his whole career, and there's something just not right with the guy. I'm no Doctor but I just call em like I see em.
No offense guy but I don't know anyone who follows the Tigers closer than I do and the only thing I know is Miggy likes the drinky and the stinky, quite normal for a 27 year old. He obviously has a drinking problem, I think he knows this as well. Also he is beloved by teammates, as nice as a guy as they come in the clubhouse. I could care less if he signs your autograph, my autograph or any ####### autographs. His job is to hit and field the baseball, and he's very good at it. I've been very close to sports and in lockerrooms before while working for Fox Sports Net and the perception the public has on some of these guys is ridiculous. Rasheed Wallace and Carlos Guillen are two good examples of how the public doesn't understand what these guys are all about, Rasheed is a peach and Carlos...not so much. I also love the legions of fans who line up with life size posters, sweaters and bobbleheads wanting autographs and the like (many of them looking to profit from it). Before the game is fine, it's great to see a little kid get excited after getting an autograph of his favorite player but a lot of times these are Dad directed and the kid could give a ####. And anyone trying to get an autograph after the game who isn't a hot 22 year old woman is the one who should check for demons (not saying this is you). These guys are rich, young and they want to party. Leave them alone once the game starts and let them do things we would all like to do afterwards. I used to watch as 50-200 fans would try to bully stuff off Red Wings players after the game when they were trying to go home with their wife and kids. #### those fans, give these guys some respect. It's also very unfair to compare Miggy or anyone to Granderson. Curtis is a true ambassador to the game, or really any game. If you start comparing your wife to Jessica Beal it might not end well, same theory applies here. It's just unfair.
Love the condescending tone. Much appreciated.We may see it differently since we lead different lives. The reason you love the game and I do sounds different to me.I guess I'm a little let down about Miggy because he's one of my favorites since he's one of my son's favorites. Now my son will be asking me questions I'll have to answer about one of his favorite players. I've seen the autograph hounds you speak of and don't respect them at all. My son has been taught to be very respectful, including not bothering athletes in public. He thanks any ball player he receives a signature from with a Mr. Granderson or whomever he's getting it from and it goes directly home into his room, not posted onto ebay.No doubt these guys want to party at their ages and with their bankrolls, but the good ones I've seen still take time for kids. You're probably very right about the Granderson comparison. It's tough to measure up to that. I don't know a Jessica Beal. Jessica Biel maybe? My wife's hotter......she's no Jessica Alba though :blackdot:
 
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Lots of dramatics in this thread. He drank too much, got a DUI, will go to AA, and will crush the ball all season long. Some people are acting like the guy's on the edge of the abyss and one step removed from being found hanging from the ceiling with a syringe in his arm.

Yep, what he did stinks and he should pay the same penalty as anyone else, but let's not blow this into some story it isn't. He'll be manning first base in April when the season opens.
Most people, on their second DUI with the same employer, where it turns into resisting arrest and assaulting a police officer, lose their job. I don't think you are punishing him by suspending him for 30 days as much as maybe saving the guys life, he's clearly a reckless clown. This isn't the case of a single guy having one bad night, its a pattern and if the money can't keep him straight, maybe depriving him of the one thing that's probably meant more to him than booze(in theory) will.

 
Chunky again. I think this guy has a lot of demons. It's not just drinking, it goes beyond that.
Thanks Doctor Laura. He's a drunk, and a violent drunk at that. Doesn't mean he has any demons or that someone touched him when he was a kid. All it means is that he has a chemical dependency issue, just like a bunch of people we all know.
I'm a huge Tiger fan and have been to many games in Detroit and Lakeland. My son is 7 and we go after Tiger autographs all the time. Miggy is surly with the fans and I can't say I've ever seen him sign anything. He's eluded to issues beyond drinking being his problem before, and did it again this time. And angry, violent drunks are typically that way for a reason. He's proven to be very immature his whole career, and there's something just not right with the guy. I'm no Doctor but I just call em like I see em.
No offense guy but I don't know anyone who follows the Tigers closer than I do and the only thing I know is Miggy likes the drinky and the stinky, quite normal for a 27 year old. He obviously has a drinking problem, I think he knows this as well. Also he is beloved by teammates, as nice as a guy as they come in the clubhouse. I could care less if he signs your autograph, my autograph or any ####### autographs. His job is to hit and field the baseball, and he's very good at it. I've been very close to sports and in lockerrooms before while working for Fox Sports Net and the perception the public has on some of these guys is ridiculous. Rasheed Wallace and Carlos Guillen are two good examples of how the public doesn't understand what these guys are all about, Rasheed is a peach and Carlos...not so much.

I also love the legions of fans who line up with life size posters, sweaters and bobbleheads wanting autographs and the like (many of them looking to profit from it). Before the game is fine, it's great to see a little kid get excited after getting an autograph of his favorite player but a lot of times these are Dad directed and the kid could give a ####. And anyone trying to get an autograph after the game who isn't a hot 22 year old woman is the one who should check for demons (not saying this is you). These guys are rich, young and they want to party. Leave them alone once the game starts and let them do things we would all like to do afterwards. I used to watch as 50-200 fans would try to bully stuff off Red Wings players after the game when they were trying to go home with their wife and kids. #### those fans, give these guys some respect.

It's also very unfair to compare Miggy or anyone to Granderson. Curtis is a true ambassador to the game, or really any game. If you start comparing your wife to Jessica Beal it might not end well, same theory applies here. It's just unfair.
Love the condescending tone. Much appreciated.We may see it differently since we lead different lives. The reason you love the game and I do sounds different to me.



I guess I'm a little let down about Miggy because he's one of my favorites since he's one of my son's favorites. Now my son will be asking me questions I'll have to answer about one of his favorite players.

I've seen the autograph hounds you speak of and don't respect them at all. My son has been taught to be very respectful, including not bothering athletes in public. He thanks any ball player he receives a signature from with a Mr. Granderson or whomever he's getting it from and it goes directly home into his room, not posted onto ebay.

No doubt these guys want to party at their ages and with their bankrolls, but the good ones I've seen still take time for kids.

You're probably very right about the Granderson comparison. It's tough to measure up to that.

I don't know a Jessica Beal. Jessica Biel maybe? My wife's hotter......she's no Jessica Alba though :yes:
Me too man, not sure why a guy with that much dough can't have a limo on stand-by at Spring Training. Some organizations pay for such services and I would guess all of them offer help if needed. In this case I think the Tigers need to intervene but it doesn't seem like we'll have to worry about him driving anymore. Florida drivers license is about to be :bye: Not sure if our love of the game is any different, I love baseball for the simplicity, history and beauty of the game itself. But I also don't care how athletes treat fans or if they are crappy people, as long as they aren't rapists, murderers or dog haters.

 
In Braves camp, new manager Fredi Gonzalez -- who managed Cabrera for one season with the Florida Marlins -- vouched for Cabrera as a "tremendous human being," when he's not drinking.

Said Gonzalez to the Atlanta-Journal Constitution:

"He needs to take care of that. And I think they will. The Tigers will do the right thing for him. I'm pulling for him, because not only as a baseball player – we all know his numbers – but as a person, as a human being, he's a quality guy. And if he does have a disease – in the medical books it's a disease – he needs to take care of that."

If Cabrera can admit that he has a disease and open up to help, he be fine, if not this could be the start of ride to the rock bottom. Hoping the kid figures it out

 
Lots of dramatics in this thread. He drank too much, got a DUI, will go to AA, and will crush the ball all season long. Some people are acting like the guy's on the edge of the abyss and one step removed from being found hanging from the ceiling with a syringe in his arm. Yep, what he did stinks and he should pay the same penalty as anyone else, but let's not blow this into some story it isn't. He'll be manning first base in April when the season opens.
:lmao:
 

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