Mike Bell (RB-DEN) works with 1st team (1 Viewer)

[Otis]

Alright, I've held my tongue for a while.Seriously, the hype on MB is out of control. The guy went undrafted this year.Why was he undrafted? Because he FUMBLES A TON. Which coach will bench you because of fumbles more than any other?Yep, you guessed it. Mike Shanahan.It's not going to last, folks. If you get him, and he starts the season, trade him early. His value won't be higher than that (if it can get higher than it is now).

Particularly in dynasty leauges, it is ALWAYS smart to trade a hot DEN running back. The likelihood that he will be the starter there next year is so low (and the value of the flavor of the month DEN RB is so high) that he is not worth the risk of keeping. Consider the team you could have built in a dynasty league if you had traded the likes of Griffin, Droughns, Mike Anderson, Dayne, and then Cobbs, all while their values peaked? Those guys alone would probably be enough to help you build a championship-calibre team from waiver wire scraps. The Denver starting running back does not have staying power, so sell while the sellin's good.

 

[Keys Myaths]

What evidence is there that Mike Bell will fumble more then Tatum or Ron? I agree with you that Shanny will bench the ##### out of whoever puts the ball to the ground, but why do you believe that will be MB?

http://wc.arizona.edu/papers/98/15/02_2.html

The two quality backups for Bell could be crucial if the junior captain continues his struggles with holding on to the football. In the last two games Bell has four fumbles in just 38 total carries.

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews...ts/15227965.htm

Bell said he thought he was having a good camp, aside from a couple of fumbles last week. Shanahan said he felt the same way.

There's a lot more like it.One of the main reasons Bell wasn't drafted was because he fumbled a lot.

 

[broncofan13000]

What evidence is there that Mike Bell will fumble more then Tatum or Ron? I agree with you that Shanny will bench the ##### out of whoever puts the ball to the ground, but why do you believe that will be MB?

http://wc.arizona.edu/papers/98/15/02_2.html

The two quality backups for Bell could be crucial if the junior captain continues his struggles with holding on to the football. In the last two games Bell has four fumbles in just 38 total carries.

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews...ts/15227965.htm

Bell said he thought he was having a good camp, aside from a couple of fumbles last week. Shanahan said he felt the same way.

There's a lot more like it.One of the main reasons Bell wasn't drafted was because he fumbled a lot.

Thanks Keys. I wasn't aware that MB had a fumbling problem at Arizona. The last few camp reports from Denver haven't really mentioned him fumbling, so hopefully this is a problem that he has solved.

 

[Joe Bryant]

To answer Zamboni's question about taking credit, see above. Notice they didn't post the more-recent blurb from Cecil saying that Bell was slow.

But Bell *IS* slow. What does that have to do with his bid to win the starting job?

Exactly SSOG. Thanks.J

 

[Joe Bryant]

To answer Zamboni's question about taking credit, see above. Notice they didn't post the more-recent blurb from Cecil saying that Bell was slow.

I didn't see today's e-mail (can't access at work), but I read Cecil's other thoughts. Yes, he said Bell was slow, but also pointed out that he's done some good work. He gave a balanced view of the other two as well.Don't see a big deal here.

J

 

[jurb26]

GB the Den RB situation and those who continually try to tell us how clear it is in June and July.

 

[Buckna]

Alright, I've held my tongue for a while.Seriously, the hype on MB is out of control. The guy went undrafted this year.Why was he undrafted? Because he FUMBLES A TON. Which coach will bench you because of fumbles more than any other?Yep, you guessed it. Mike Shanahan.It's not going to last, folks. If you get him, and he starts the season, trade him early. His value won't be higher than that (if it can get higher than it is now).

Particularly in dynasty leauges, it is ALWAYS smart to trade a hot DEN running back. The likelihood that he will be the starter there next year is so low (and the value of the flavor of the month DEN RB is so high) that he is not worth the risk of keeping. Consider the team you could have built in a dynasty league if you had traded the likes of Griffin, Droughns, Mike Anderson, Dayne, and then Cobbs, all while their values peaked? Those guys alone would probably be enough to help you build a championship-calibre team from waiver wire scraps. The Denver starting running back does not have staying power, so sell while the sellin's good.

The problem is not many people are buying. I got lucky to get to the waiver wire first and haven't gotten a single nibble.

 

[Real Man of Genius]

Alright, I've held my tongue for a while.Seriously, the hype on MB is out of control. The guy went undrafted this year.Why was he undrafted? Because he FUMBLES A TON. Which coach will bench you because of fumbles more than any other?Yep, you guessed it. Mike Shanahan.It's not going to last, folks. If you get him, and he starts the season, trade him early. His value won't be higher than that (if it can get higher than it is now).

Particularly in dynasty leauges, it is ALWAYS smart to trade a hot DEN running back. The likelihood that he will be the starter there next year is so low (and the value of the flavor of the month DEN RB is so high) that he is not worth the risk of keeping. Consider the team you could have built in a dynasty league if you had traded the likes of Griffin, Droughns, Mike Anderson, Dayne, and then Cobbs, all while their values peaked? Those guys alone would probably be enough to help you build a championship-calibre team from waiver wire scraps. The Denver starting running back does not have staying power, so sell while the sellin's good.

The problem is not many people are buying. I got lucky to get to the waiver wire first and haven't gotten a single nibble.

Same here....I grabbed him when the news hit, and have been offering him around, with little response. OF course, if he has a good game this weekend, that could change.

 

[moleculo]

Alright, I've held my tongue for a while.Seriously, the hype on MB is out of control. The guy went undrafted this year.Why was he undrafted? Because he FUMBLES A TON. Which coach will bench you because of fumbles more than any other?Yep, you guessed it. Mike Shanahan.It's not going to last, folks. If you get him, and he starts the season, trade him early. His value won't be higher than that (if it can get higher than it is now).

Particularly in dynasty leauges, it is ALWAYS smart to trade a hot DEN running back. The likelihood that he will be the starter there next year is so low (and the value of the flavor of the month DEN RB is so high) that he is not worth the risk of keeping. Consider the team you could have built in a dynasty league if you had traded the likes of Griffin, Droughns, Mike Anderson, Dayne, and then Cobbs, all while their values peaked? Those guys alone would probably be enough to help you build a championship-calibre team from waiver wire scraps. The Denver starting running back does not have staying power, so sell while the sellin's good.

The problem is not many people are buying. I got lucky to get to the waiver wire first and haven't gotten a single nibble.

Same here....I grabbed him when the news hit, and have been offering him around, with little response. OF course, if he has a good game this weekend, that could change.

I see no reason to move Bell at this point. If all goes as planned, you ride Bell all season, let him acumulate big numbers, and trade him midway through or after the season - not before. Right now, his value lies only in potential - everyone on the board has potential in August. It's what he does with that potential which will create real value, and will allow you to move him for what you want.

 

[Otis]

To clarify, I'm not suggesting you trade Bell right now. Give him a chance to start a game, let him go bananas, and then move him at top dollar. The same as folks should have done two years ago mid-season with Droughns, or after Q. Griffin's one or two blow-up games.

 

[SSOG]

It's not going to last, folks. If you get him, and he starts the season, trade him early. His value won't be higher than that (if it can get higher than it is now).

I seem to recall someone saying almost those exact words last year during the preseason about Mike Anderson. 30 seconds later, Anderson rumbled for 90+ against Indy.That's the funny thing about trying to predict stocks. Sometimes, you can't.

 

[Bears_Man2]

To clarify, I'm not suggesting you trade Bell right now. Give him a chance to start a game, let him go bananas, and then move him at top dollar. The same as folks should have done two years ago mid-season with Droughns, or after Q. Griffin's one or two blow-up games.

I think most M.Bell owners will find the thing that Parker owners did (and probably still do).....you aren't going to get an equal return.I think you have to be realistic of what 'top dollar' is.

 

[Keys Myaths]

It's not going to last, folks. If you get him, and he starts the season, trade him early. His value won't be higher than that (if it can get higher than it is now).

I seem to recall someone saying almost those exact words last year during the preseason about Mike Anderson. 30 seconds later, Anderson rumbled for 90+ against Indy.That's the funny thing about trying to predict stocks. Sometimes, you can't.

Mike Anderson <> Mike Bell.And thanks for deleting the reasons I gave as to why.

 

[PatsWillWin]

A lot of people on this thread are going to look very very silly very very soon.

 

[moleculo]

It's not going to last, folks. If you get him, and he starts the season, trade him early. His value won't be higher than that (if it can get higher than it is now).

I seem to recall someone saying almost those exact words last year during the preseason about Mike Anderson. 30 seconds later, Anderson rumbled for 90+ against Indy.That's the funny thing about trying to predict stocks. Sometimes, you can't.

Mike Anderson <> Mike Bell.And thanks for deleting the reasons I gave as to why.

Mike Bell <> anyone else: Mike Bell = Mike Bell. That's all we know at this point. as of today, 8/10/06, we have no idea what to expect from Bell this year and beyond. it is possible that he is on the WW by week 5, but it is possible that he becomes the Bronco primary back, and puts an end to RBBC. We all know Shannahan wants to limit Tatum to 15 touches, max. If Mike Bell plays his ### off and runs for 100 yards in the first half vs Detroit, it is very possible that Tatums carries drop to <5 per game. We have no idea how the RBBC mix will work out between Bell, Bell, and Dayne; in fact we have no idea if there will be RBBC.Of course, this is wild speculation coming from a MBell owner, but also a Bronco homer who has missed maybe 8 games over the past 10 years.

 

[kupcho1]

Mike Bell <> anyone else: Mike Bell = Mike Bell.

sharktastic

 

[Bob Sacamano]

To clarify, I'm not suggesting you trade Bell right now. Give him a chance to start a game, let him go bananas, and then move him at top dollar. The same as folks should have done two years ago mid-season with Droughns, or after Q. Griffin's one or two blow-up games.

I am. I don't see the chance to start a few games and go bananas materializing. Who knows? Maybe it does. Maybe he ends up starting all season or even a few games and his value goes through the roof. But I have to think odds are against it getting to that point. I'd get what you can for him now and get out. Don't give him away, mind you. But find that one owner whose mancrush on him is a little too unhealthy and extract what you can while you can. If you can find the guy who says, "Hey, package him with Eddie Kennison and I'll give you Reggie Wayne and Laurence Maroney," I'd say do it.

 

[SSOG]

It's not going to last, folks. If you get him, and he starts the season, trade him early. His value won't be higher than that (if it can get higher than it is now).

I seem to recall someone saying almost those exact words last year during the preseason about Mike Anderson. 30 seconds later, Anderson rumbled for 90+ against Indy.That's the funny thing about trying to predict stocks. Sometimes, you can't.

Mike Anderson <> Mike Bell.And thanks for deleting the reasons I gave as to why.

I wasn't comparing Mike Bell to Mike Anderson. I was discussing how trying to predict when a player's stock is the highest or the lowest is a risky proposition. Many people thought that Mike Anderson's stock had maxed out in the preseason of 2005, and then he rumbled for a 90-yard score against Indy.If you want an example that's not a Denver RB, I could say that many people thought that Anquan Boldin's stock was maxed out after his 200 yard game in his rookie debut- and then Boldin went on to catch 100 balls that year. Please note that I'm not saying that Mike Bell is Anquan Boldin, either. I'm just saying that you never really know when a player's stock has maxed out.Regarding that fumbling problem that you seem so obsessed with... do you remember why Clinton Portis was originally benched for the first four games his rookie year? I know I sure do. He had a ton of fumbles in the preseason. A definite fumbling problem. By the way, did you know that Clinton Portis has never had more than 5 fumbles (lost or recovered) in a single season in his career? He's averaging a fumble every 78.6 carries. So much for that fumbling problem, eh?Just because an RB had a fumbling problem in the past does not mean that that RB will continue to have a fumbling problem after Bobby Turner gets through with him. I'm not saying that Turner will cure MBell of his fumblitis, but I'm not completely ignoring the possibility, either.

 

[Keys Myaths]

It's not going to last, folks. If you get him, and he starts the season, trade him early. His value won't be higher than that (if it can get higher than it is now).

I seem to recall someone saying almost those exact words last year during the preseason about Mike Anderson. 30 seconds later, Anderson rumbled for 90+ against Indy.That's the funny thing about trying to predict stocks. Sometimes, you can't.

Mike Anderson <> Mike Bell.And thanks for deleting the reasons I gave as to why.

I wasn't comparing Mike Bell to Mike Anderson. I was discussing how trying to predict when a player's stock is the highest or the lowest is a risky proposition. Many people thought that Mike Anderson's stock had maxed out in the preseason of 2005, and then he rumbled for a 90-yard score against Indy.If you want an example that's not a Denver RB, I could say that many people thought that Anquan Boldin's stock was maxed out after his 200 yard game in his rookie debut- and then Boldin went on to catch 100 balls that year. Please note that I'm not saying that Mike Bell is Anquan Boldin, either. I'm just saying that you never really know when a player's stock has maxed out.Regarding that fumbling problem that you seem so obsessed with... do you remember why Clinton Portis was originally benched for the first four games his rookie year? I know I sure do. He had a ton of fumbles in the preseason. A definite fumbling problem. By the way, did you know that Clinton Portis has never had more than 5 fumbles (lost or recovered) in a single season in his career? He's averaging a fumble every 78.6 carries. So much for that fumbling problem, eh?Just because an RB had a fumbling problem in the past does not mean that that RB will continue to have a fumbling problem after Bobby Turner gets through with him. I'm not saying that Turner will cure MBell of his fumblitis, but I'm not completely ignoring the possibility, either.

We're on the same page. Mike Bell CAN become a very good value pick, even a fantastic one.However, the straw men set up in here REALLY piss me off. I'm sure they do to you as well.

 

[SSOG]

We're on the same page. Mike Bell CAN become a very good value pick, even a fantastic one.However, the straw men set up in here REALLY piss me off. I'm sure they do to you as well.

Oh yeah, absolutely. A lot of the time I just don't bother dealing illogical arguements. You just can't argue logically or reason with some people.

 

[tennesseeTitans]

As someone who owns both Dayne and Tatum Bell (but not Mike!) you can bet I'm monitoring this whole matter very, very closely.

 

[wannabee]

Dayne hurt a toe in first preseason game

 

[wannabee]

Broncos | Dayne suffers toe injury

Published Sun Aug 13 6:24:00 p.m. ET 2006

(KFFL) Denver Broncos head coach Mike Shanahan said RB Ron Dayne (toe) has a sore toe but should be able to practice Monday, Aug. 14. It's believed to be just a temporary setback and he should be fine.

 

[mbuehner]

"Dayne hurt a toe in first preseason game"

Probably a chronic injury from tripping over the line of scrimmage.

 

[Interseptopus]

Any thoughts on MBell after he had a pretty sub-par showing? He was doing well until he fumbled... then it was all down hill..

 

[Interseptopus]

Any thoughts on MBell after he had a pretty sub-par showing? He was doing well until he fumbled... then it was all down hill..

 

[jurb26]

The more and more I watch this situation unfold, the more convinced I am that T.Bell will take over this job ealry in the season.