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Mike Brown - JAX WR (1 Viewer)

5, 8, 6 targets in the last 3 weeks with Blackmon as the #1. Shorts will draw coverage, and Brown will have an opportunity to put up good garbage time numbers, especially in PPR leagues.

 
Thank you for starting this. That way I don't have to page through all of the venting in the justin Blackmon suspended thread

4/70/0.33

That's his average stat line over the last 3 weeks. Not bad.

Granted this is Jacksonville's offense we are talking here. But one could do worse in PPR for a bye week plug in

 
andyk803 said:
What about Ace Sanders?
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Guy is 5'7. I do realize that does not make him irrelevant, I just wanted to state that.

The last 3 weeks brown has passed sanders in the depth chart it seems. Targets per game for brown: 6.3, sanders: 4.

Before brown really started doing well, sanders was seeing targets of 9, 7, 3, and 8. Inconsistent which that 3, but anyone getting 9 targets a game is worth rostering in PPR.

I still think brown is the WR to own here based on the last 3 weeks

 
Brown saw 56% of snaps last week..

Next WR was Robinson at 15%

fair to say Brown in line for... 80% at least now. if not more.

Sanders at 5% last week

 
Just picked him up. It was between him and Marlon Brown, but I figure Marlon is JAG, while Mike has the higher upside. I just hope he's startable by Week 12 (Stevie Johnson's bye week). Gulp!

 
zftcg said:
Just picked him up. It was between him and Marlon Brown, but I figure Marlon is JAG, while Mike has the higher upside. I just hope he's startable by Week 12 (Stevie Johnson's bye week). Gulp!
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Right there with you with A.J. Green's Week 12 bye. Ugh.

 
What do we know about Mike Brown? Undrafted, small college QB. Second year pro. Practice squad player last year. Listed at 5'10 200, Brown reportedly ran a 4.65 forty at his pro day. Jags signed him after a tryout and he did make the active roster very late in the season. He is known to have very good run-after-catch ability.

Bloom speculated on twitter that Brown would be a top 30-40 WR the ROS.

That is all I know. Anybody have any interesting things to add?

 
andyk803 said:
I know nothing about this guy. Isn't he the Cavs head coach?

Starting with confidence!
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No, he is a guy I went to high school with in the early 90s. This guy is a late bloomer but he might have some good games the rest of the season.
 
MoveToSkypager said:
Fariq said:
andyk803 said:
I know nothing about this guy. Isn't he the Cavs head coach?

Starting with confidence!
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No, he is a guy I went to high school with in the early 90s. This guy is a late bloomer but he might have some good games the rest of the season.
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Mike Brown was born in 1989. He went to high school in the early 90s? That's really impressive.
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Reread the post they replied to and think about the context.

 
This guys a baller, ran alot of read option qb in college, good instincts, route running and gets good seperation as a wr. Garbage time superstar!

 
Man I am looking for a fill in WR this week. All this does is make the decision more difficult. Brown, Stills, LMoore, Hopkins, McCluster, Washington...................................................................... :help:

 
Any concerns on what is far from a creamy schedule for the Jags post bye week? Yes, I know they'll be playing from behind in every one of these games save maybe - I stress maybe - Cleveland. Including CLE, there are some brutal (tough) secondaries on tap starting week 9.

 
Tons of us are in bye week/injury dilemmas where we might need him for one week only. So in terms of very short time, how do you think he compared to someone like Doug Baldwin in Seattle who should also begin receiving 80% of snaps as a starter, plays with a better QB, etc.

Thoughts?

 
The_U said:
Any concerns on what is far from a creamy schedule for the Jags post bye week? Yes, I know they'll be playing from behind in every one of these games save maybe - I stress maybe - Cleveland. Including CLE, there are some brutal (tough) secondaries on tap starting week 9.
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I just can't see a scenario in which the Jaguars will not need to air it out. They are horrible on a NFL RECORD breaking level. Brown has stepped up even with Blackmon in the lineup so I can only envision ,at least similar output with him now starting and getting more snaps. I think when you are as bad as the Jags the schedule is meaningless.

I dropped Bowe for Brown. He is my 5th WR. I like a receiver that deep on my bench for upside and he certainly fits that mold. He may be starting for me next week when Gordon is on bye.

 
JMJ said:
Tons of us are in bye week/injury dilemmas where we might need him for one week only. So in terms of very short time, how do you think he compared to someone like Doug Baldwin in Seattle who should also begin receiving 80% of snaps as a starter, plays with a better QB, etc.

Thoughts?
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Baldwins value hold only until Harvin comes back

 
If I may, the whole "garbage time" theory has really only worked for TEs. if you look at the good WRs, they tend to be on teams scoring lots of TDs during the competitive part of the game- i.e., on the better teams. this mike brown's 5/120 game was the first huge garbage-time game by a WR that caught my eye. but, really, i think the theory works best for TEs, since the other teams are in 6 DB packages.

 
Doctor DR said:
JMJ said:
Tons of us are in bye week/injury dilemmas where we might need him for one week only. So in terms of very short time, how do you think he compared to someone like Doug Baldwin in Seattle who should also begin receiving 80% of snaps as a starter, plays with a better QB, etc.

Thoughts?
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Baldwins value hold only until Harvin comes back
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There's disagreement over Baldwin v Kearse by the way I don't watch enough SEA so I don't know who to choose.

I DO know if you use Yahoo! for SEA WR scoring last 4 weeks average you will see all 3 of Rice, Baldwin and Kearse combine to 1 Golden Tate, so it's not like there's been a lot to go around. Mike Brown's production has been 2 steps above those guys.

 
nobiz said:
If I may, the whole "garbage time" theory has really only worked for TEs. if you look at the good WRs, they tend to be on teams scoring lots of TDs during the competitive part of the game- i.e., on the better teams. this mike brown's 5/120 game was the first huge garbage-time game by a WR that caught my eye. but, really, i think the theory works best for TEs, since the other teams are in 6 DB packages.
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True to a point.

Regardless 5/50 seems like the bottom for him, and in PPR that's a great fill in.

 
nobiz said:
If I may, the whole "garbage time" theory has really only worked for TEs. if you look at the good WRs, they tend to be on teams scoring lots of TDs during the competitive part of the game- i.e., on the better teams. this mike brown's 5/120 game was the first huge garbage-time game by a WR that caught my eye. but, really, i think the theory works best for TEs, since the other teams are in 6 DB packages.
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I'd like to introduce you to Cecil Shorts. No biz, this is Cecil. Cecil, this is Nobiz.

 
Apparently, some of you are super rooks in this game of orcas.

Little breakdown on Mike Brown last 3 weeks:

4/49 DEN

5/120 SD

3/42/1 SF

That's as WR3 on the team, playing approx 50% of snaps on average.

Wake up gentlemen... he's more than a bye week filler (unless you're stacked). This guy will be cracking lineups.

 
Soulfly3 said:
Apparently, some of you are super rooks in this game of orcas.

Little breakdown on Mike Brown last 3 weeks:

4/49 DEN

5/120 SD

3/42/1 SF

That's as WR3 on the team, playing approx 50% of snaps on average.

Wake up gentlemen... he's more than a bye week filler (unless you're stacked). This guy will be cracking lineups.
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My only reservation is that for some odd reason Sanders was out of favor those 3 weeks. Sanders' size projects him more as a slot WR though. I agree, I think he's a top 30-40 WR moving forward. I don't know about a weekly starter for myself personally, but people could do a heck of a lot worse

 
nobiz said:
If I may, the whole "garbage time" theory has really only worked for TEs. if you look at the good WRs, they tend to be on teams scoring lots of TDs during the competitive part of the game- i.e., on the better teams. this mike brown's 5/120 game was the first huge garbage-time game by a WR that caught my eye. but, really, i think the theory works best for TEs, since the other teams are in 6 DB packages.
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Well stated, but where was Blackmon getting his opportunities? Yes, he's a superior talent but he still had to have his chances alongside Shorts.

I thought about the whole TE thing here and was going to point out, earlier, that Merc Lewis has been out - but it turns out he's back, but his opportunity seems very limited, he did not do much his first game back. If Lewis isn't a factor and considering what they (don't) have in Sanders and the other WRs & TEs it seems like an awful lot to go around.

One other thing to consider is just how bad this Jags team is. I know we've seen them down, a good DST matchup, in the past, but they have a shot at the all time point differential record held by the `77 Bucs. Those 76-77 Bucs are universally recognized as the worst teams of modern ball (say since the 30s or 40s). The Jags have failed to score more than 10 point in 5 of 8 games. Last couple games Blackmon really didn't do much. Maybe just don't count on scores but a whole lot of running up and down the field.

Having said all that I like Brown a lot as a pickup, would be interested in hearing observations about how he actually plays and how he's come on so quick.

 
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I like Brown's floor over the remainder of the season, especially in PPR. That being said, I'm not so sure he'll automatically make a huge leap just because Blackmon is out. In his favor is the fact that he should be playing a higher percentage of the snaps. The one thing being overlooked, however, is the attention Blackmon commanded from the defense, opening up the field for others such as Brown. I understand a lot of this attention will now go to Shorts, but Blackmon being out, in my opinion hurts Brown as much as it helps.

I think the increase in snaps and a few more targets will balance out with increased defensive attention, better DBs covering him, and an overall slightly less effective offense (and yes, I know it was already putrid) with the team's best threat no longer in play. So while Brown could and should keep doing what he's doing - which isn't bad and is definitely worthy of a pickup - my guess is he doesn't go nuclear over the next few weeks.

 
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