Mike Pereira on Jon Gruden (1 Viewer)

[CletiusMaximus]

Gruden needs to get the rules straight

I don't have much of an opinion on Pereira, but have always thought Gruden is an overrated blowhard in the booth and little more than a cheerleader as a coach. From a fan's perspective, he brings noting but worthless fluff to a broadcast. He proved me wrong on the coaching end by winning a superbowl many years ago, but I still think he's 80% scowl and 20% substance, and would not want to be a fan of the team that hires him next.

Here's your money quote:

I am not a fan of Gruden’s. Not today, not yesterday, not when I worked for the NFL and not when I was working on the field as a side judge. He was a loudmouth as a coach who constantly disrespected officials and he is a blowhard in the broadcast booth who spouts off when he doesn’t know what he is talking about.

 

[TheGBU]

My guess is Gruden told Pereira to go f himself somewhere along the line and Pereira is now mad that Gruden makes more money in a week then he does in a year "breaking down the rules" on Fox.

Why in the funk does ANYONE care what some d-bag like Pereira has to say anyway? This guy was a ref for christ sake and every Fox game he is chiming in about some BS call that does nothing but slow down the game.

Pereira is a classic example of these refs/umps that think they are part of the game. It's much worse in baseball but football is catching up. Hey d-bag, the fans don't spend 1000s on season tickets to have refs insert themselves in the game. Get lost already Pereira because 98% of us don't care what you have to say!

 

[dutch]

somebody needs a nap.

I like the Pereira segemnts as they give some insight into why a call goes the way it goes. As for his opinion on Gurden, eh, we can't all like the same things.

 

[Bad_Mo]

somebody needs a nap. I like the Pereira segemnts as they give some insight into why a call goes the way it goes. As for his opinion on Gurden, eh, we can't all like the same things.

LOL36 posts and one of those was earmarked for that d-bag Pereira!

 

[unckeyherb]

My guess is Gruden told Pereira to go f himself somewhere along the line and Pereira is now mad that Gruden makes more money in a week then he does in a year "breaking down the rules" on Fox. Why in the funk does ANYONE care what some d-bag like Pereira has to say anyway? This guy was a ref for christ sake and every Fox game he is chiming in about some BS call that does nothing but slow down the game. Pereira is a classic example of these refs/umps that think they are part of the game. It's much worse in baseball but football is catching up. Hey d-bag, the fans don't spend 1000s on season tickets to have refs insert themselves in the game. Get lost already Pereira because 98% of us don't care what you have to say!

a little over the top, but I pretty much agree. Pereira annoys the piss out of me. 99.9% his 'opinion' is that the ref is making the right call. Great addition!

 

[⚡DEADHEAD⚡]

Gruden needs to get the rules straight

I don't have much of an opinion on Pereira, but have always thought Gruden is an overrated blowhard in the booth and little more than a cheerleader as a coach. From a fan's perspective, he brings noting but worthless fluff to a broadcast. He proved me wrong on the coaching end by winning a superbowl many years ago, but I still think he's 80% scowl and 20% substance, and would not want to be a fan of the team that hires him next.

Here's your money quote:

I am not a fan of Gruden’s. Not today, not yesterday, not when I worked for the NFL and not when I was working on the field as a side judge. He was a loudmouth as a coach who constantly disrespected officials and he is a blowhard in the broadcast booth who spouts off when he doesn’t know what he is talking about.

This dispute hints at a larger problem. NFL officiating is a joke. So many weakboob calls each week, many on national games. It's like European football, only the opposite. Over-officiating instead of under-officiating.That said, Gruden is a total blowhard. Every "kid" is special, great, the next coming, etc. A year or two ago, Gruden thought every team had a shot at going to the playoffs. He's become a player and team shill who rants against the refs. Pretty valueless.

 

[TheGBU]

somebody needs a nap. I like the Pereira segemnts as they give some insight into why a call goes the way it goes. As for his opinion on Gurden, eh, we can't all like the same things.

No nap needed. I just can't stand these refs and umps who think they are "stars". I'm no big Gruden fan either but at least he won something in the NFL. Pereira is just another geek trying to get rich and famous on the backs of others. If you like listening to refs opine, good for you. Just understand most normal fans do NOT.Peace.

 

[GregR]

I've got some opinions on both guys. I enjoy having someone from the NFL actually willing to openly discuss the calls that were made and try to explain how the rulings are supposed to be made. And Pereira has always been willing to say when the ref makes the wrong call. Saying 99.9% of the time he agrees with the ref is extremely off base. Just following him on twitter and he frequently disagrees with calls. If I had to guess I'd say as much as 30-40% of the time he disagrees.

The downside to Pereira is I think he's gotten to love the limelight. With no one who is still with the NFL taking up the public spokesman position on officiating, I still listen to him because face it, he's more knowledgeable about the correct interpretation of the rules than all but maybe 3 or 4 other people in the world right now. I quote him a lot because he's the only source worth quoting right now on most rules-based issues. But if someone from the NFL stepped up I would probably tune Pereira out. I think a number of his views on what rules should be are wrong, but I think when it comes to explaining how the ref is supposed to be making the call with the way the rules exist today, he's generally right.

Ok, so that said, I have found myself shaking my head at Gruden's comments when they do relate to the rules. I'm not sure if he plain doesn't know the rules, or if he is just voicing the popular opinion sometimes to gain popularity. I think it's a little of both, but more of the latter. I think Gruden does know a lot about the Xs and Os of football, but I can see him being a loudmouth to officials, and worse a loudmouth who is being loud about calls when he probably didn't understand how the rules worked in the first place.

 

[⚡DEADHEAD⚡]

somebody needs a nap. I like the Pereira segemnts as they give some insight into why a call goes the way it goes. As for his opinion on Gurden, eh, we can't all like the same things.

No nap needed. I just can't stand these refs and umps who think they are "stars". I'm no big Gruden fan either but at least he won something in the NFL. Pereira is just another geek trying to get rich and famous on the backs of others. If you like listening to refs opine, good for you. Just understand most normal fans do NOT.Peace.

I actually like the feature. Besides, if a network offered you decent dough to give your professional opinion, wouldn't you do it? Your beef should be with FOX, not Pereira. Can't fault the guy. He's doing what he's paid to do.

 

[unckeyherb]

I've got some opinions on both guys. I enjoy having someone from the NFL actually willing to openly discuss the calls that were made and try to explain how the rulings are supposed to be made. And Pereira has always been willing to say when the ref makes the wrong call. Saying 99.9% of the time he agrees with the ref is extremely off base. Just following him on twitter and he frequently disagrees with calls. If I had to guess I'd say as much as 30-40% of the time he disagrees.The downside to Pereira is I think he's gotten to love the limelight. With no one who is still with the NFL taking up the public spokesman position on officiating, I still listen to him because face it, he's more knowledgeable about the correct interpretation of the rules than all but maybe 3 or 4 other people in the world right now. I quote him a lot because he's the only source worth quoting right now on most rules-based issues. But if someone from the NFL stepped up I would probably tune Pereira out. I think a number of his views on what rules should be are wrong, but I think when it comes to explaining how the ref is supposed to be making the call with the way the rules exist today, he's generally right.Ok, so that said, I have found myself shaking my head at Gruden's comments when they do relate to the rules. I'm not sure if he plain doesn't know the rules, or if he is just voicing the popular opinion sometimes to gain popularity. I think it's a little of both, but more of the latter. I think Gruden does know a lot about the Xs and Os of football, but I can see him being a loudmouth to officials, and worse a loudmouth who is being loud about calls when he probably didn't understand how the rules worked in the first place.

well, I am not on Twitter, so not sure what he says on that forum. From my viewing experience, his video analysis almost always comes back in support of the refs. Perhaps they set it up that way, I don't know. I certainly don't doubt his knowledge of the rules, maybe just his selection of which rules to review..

 

[BroadwayG]

Nobody in any broadcast booth uses superlatives better than Jon Gruden. He is world class and as good as anyone that has ever talked into a microphone.

 

[Donnybrook]

Not a fan of Pereira at all but sometimes Gruden just get it's wrong. I don't know if people recall the NY Jets/ Miami game. Gruden claimed that Revis interferred with Brandon Marshall on a play where Revis intercepted the ball in the end zone. My view was that was incidental contact because Marshall was off balance and leaning into Revis on the play.

Gruden speaks before he thinks and Revis ends up having to defend himself in the media the following week. http://www.newsday.com/sports/media/revis-hangs-up-on-wfan-s-francesa-1.3263714?qr=1

 

[Steed]

So no one else gets annoyed at Gruden continuously throwing roses t every player's feet. I thought it was well known he won't criticize anyone because it could put him at odds with future personnel/organizations

 

[todisco1]

Nobody in any broadcast booth uses superlatives better than Jon Gruden. He is world class and as good as anyone that has ever talked into a microphone.

I don't mind Gruden, but to say he's the best commentator in the history of sports broadcasting seems like just a tad much. He can be annoying at times. As mentioned above, every player they talk about seems to be the best. He constantly heaps praise upon people to the point that it just becomes noise. I tune him out sometimes because I'm sick of hearing how great everyone is.

 

[gianmarco]

Nobody in any broadcast booth uses superlatives better than Jon Gruden. He is world class and as good as anyone that has ever talked into a microphone.

I don't mind Gruden, but to say he's the best commentator in the history of sports broadcasting seems like just a tad much. He can be annoying at times. As mentioned above, every player they talk about seems to be the best. He constantly heaps praise upon people to the point that it just becomes noise. I tune him out sometimes because I'm sick of hearing how great everyone is.

:whoosh:

 

[Donsmith753]

Nobody in any broadcast booth uses superlatives better than Jon Gruden. He is world class and as good as anyone that has ever talked into a microphone.

I don't mind Gruden, but to say he's the best commentator in the history of sports broadcasting seems like just a tad much. He can be annoying at times. As mentioned above, every player they talk about seems to be the best. He constantly heaps praise upon people to the point that it just becomes noise. I tune him out sometimes because I'm sick of hearing how great everyone is.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Sarcasm

 

[todisco1]

Nobody in any broadcast booth uses superlatives better than Jon Gruden. He is world class and as good as anyone that has ever talked into a microphone.

I don't mind Gruden, but to say he's the best commentator in the history of sports broadcasting seems like just a tad much. He can be annoying at times. As mentioned above, every player they talk about seems to be the best. He constantly heaps praise upon people to the point that it just becomes noise. I tune him out sometimes because I'm sick of hearing how great everyone is.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Sarcasm

Ahhh. Woosh.

 

[FavreCo]

Gruden is a blowhard. He never saw a QB that he didn't think was great. Dude is a moron.

 

[Rick James]

Gruden needs to get the rules straight

I don't have much of an opinion on Pereira, but have always thought Gruden is an overrated blowhard in the booth and little more than a cheerleader as a coach. From a fan's perspective, he brings noting but worthless fluff to a broadcast. He proved me wrong on the coaching end by winning a superbowl many years ago, but I still think he's 80% scowl and 20% substance, and would not want to be a fan of the team that hires him next.

Here's your money quote:

I am not a fan of Gruden’s. Not today, not yesterday, not when I worked for the NFL and not when I was working on the field as a side judge. He was a loudmouth as a coach who constantly disrespected officials and he is a blowhard in the broadcast booth who spouts off when he doesn’t know what he is talking about.

This dispute hints at a larger problem. NFL officiating is a joke. So many weakboob calls each week, many on national games. It's like European football, only the opposite. Over-officiating instead of under-officiating.

They're just doing as instructed. New rules are the problem, not the refs.

 

[Tau837]

I... have always thought Gruden is an overrated blowhard in the booth and little more than a cheerleader as a coach. From a fan's perspective, he brings noting but worthless fluff to a broadcast. He proved me wrong on the coaching end by winning a superbowl many years ago, but I still think he's 80% scowl and 20% substance, and would not want to be a fan of the team that hires him next.

I like Gruden in the booth. He isn't perfect, and he overpraises individuals, but he clearly knows the game and at times offers insights that you don't hear from other guys in the booth.As a coach, I think he was a lot more than just a cheerleader.His teams won 5 division titles in his 11 seasons as head coach. He has succeeded with strong offensive teams and strong defensive teams. His strong defensive teams in Tampa were due to Dungy and Kiffin, but at least he was smart enough not to mess with a good thing on that front. The best QB he ever had to work with was an old Rich Gannon, and he generally had a bunch of lousy QBs in Tampa (and no particularly good offensive skill players, either). All in all, I think he did a pretty good job.As a Chargers fan, I would love to see him be the replacement for Norv Turner and see what he can do with the offensive talent the Chargers have.

 

[Pnishthm]

I've got some opinions on both guys. I enjoy having someone from the NFL actually willing to openly discuss the calls that were made and try to explain how the rulings are supposed to be made. And Pereira has always been willing to say when the ref makes the wrong call. Saying 99.9% of the time he agrees with the ref is extremely off base. Just following him on twitter and he frequently disagrees with calls. If I had to guess I'd say as much as 30-40% of the time he disagrees.The downside to Pereira is I think he's gotten to love the limelight. With no one who is still with the NFL taking up the public spokesman position on officiating, I still listen to him because face it, he's more knowledgeable about the correct interpretation of the rules than all but maybe 3 or 4 other people in the world right now. I quote him a lot because he's the only source worth quoting right now on most rules-based issues. But if someone from the NFL stepped up I would probably tune Pereira out. I think a number of his views on what rules should be are wrong, but I think when it comes to explaining how the ref is supposed to be making the call with the way the rules exist today, he's generally right.Ok, so that said, I have found myself shaking my head at Gruden's comments when they do relate to the rules. I'm not sure if he plain doesn't know the rules, or if he is just voicing the popular opinion sometimes to gain popularity. I think it's a little of both, but more of the latter. I think Gruden does know a lot about the Xs and Os of football, but I can see him being a loudmouth to officials, and worse a loudmouth who is being loud about calls when he probably didn't understand how the rules worked in the first place.

well, I am not on Twitter, so not sure what he says on that forum. From my viewing experience, his video analysis almost always comes back in support of the refs. Perhaps they set it up that way, I don't know. I certainly don't doubt his knowledge of the rules, maybe just his selection of which rules to review..

Back when he was head of officiating he would always agree with the refs even when it was clear a day they were wrong. He would still find som way to twist it to make it look like his guys were right. Now it might be totally different, but a lot of us remember him always defending his guys even when they were pretty clearly in the wrong.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I'm pretty sure that if you had someone that didn't know much about football watch a Browns/Jags game with Gruden in the booth they would come out of it thinking that McCoy and Gabbert were the best QBs in the NFL.

 

[GregR]

I've got some opinions on both guys. I enjoy having someone from the NFL actually willing to openly discuss the calls that were made and try to explain how the rulings are supposed to be made. And Pereira has always been willing to say when the ref makes the wrong call. Saying 99.9% of the time he agrees with the ref is extremely off base. Just following him on twitter and he frequently disagrees with calls. If I had to guess I'd say as much as 30-40% of the time he disagrees.

The downside to Pereira is I think he's gotten to love the limelight. With no one who is still with the NFL taking up the public spokesman position on officiating, I still listen to him because face it, he's more knowledgeable about the correct interpretation of the rules than all but maybe 3 or 4 other people in the world right now. I quote him a lot because he's the only source worth quoting right now on most rules-based issues. But if someone from the NFL stepped up I would probably tune Pereira out. I think a number of his views on what rules should be are wrong, but I think when it comes to explaining how the ref is supposed to be making the call with the way the rules exist today, he's generally right.

Ok, so that said, I have found myself shaking my head at Gruden's comments when they do relate to the rules. I'm not sure if he plain doesn't know the rules, or if he is just voicing the popular opinion sometimes to gain popularity. I think it's a little of both, but more of the latter. I think Gruden does know a lot about the Xs and Os of football, but I can see him being a loudmouth to officials, and worse a loudmouth who is being loud about calls when he probably didn't understand how the rules worked in the first place.

well, I am not on Twitter, so not sure what he says on that forum. From my viewing experience, his video analysis almost always comes back in support of the refs. Perhaps they set it up that way, I don't know. I certainly don't doubt his knowledge of the rules, maybe just his selection of which rules to review..

Back when he was head of officiating he would always agree with the refs even when it was clear a day they were wrong. He would still find som way to twist it to make it look like his guys were right. Now it might be totally different, but a lot of us remember him always defending his guys even when they were pretty clearly in the wrong.

This is simply not true. One of the things I loved the most about the Official Review segment was that they admitted when they were wrong. It took all of about 45 seconds on google to show this was the case:PFT article when he was head of officials titled: Pereira "shocked" by Triplette's replay mistake

Video segment from NFLN where the opening topic is Pereira saying the officials failed to spot the ball correctly even after the spot was challenged.

 

[Two Deep]

My guess is Gruden told Pereira to go f himself somewhere along the line and Pereira is now mad that Gruden makes more money in a week then he does in a year "breaking down the rules" on Fox.

Why in the funk does ANYONE care what some d-bag like Pereira has to say anyway? This guy was a ref for christ sake and every Fox game he is chiming in about some BS call that does nothing but slow down the game.

Pereira is a classic example of these refs/umps that think they are part of the game. It's much worse in baseball but football is catching up. Hey d-bag, the fans don't spend 1000s on season tickets to have refs insert themselves in the game. Get lost already Pereira because 98% of us don't care what you have to say!

They are part of the game otherwise they wouldn't be out there.

 

[gump]

What is the general MNF viewer opinion of Gruden?

I'm guessing its good. Gruden is as harsh on the officials as any announcer I've ever heard....but viewers like it. And thats what he's paid to do.

Sorry that rubs you the wrong way Pereira. But guess what....no one cares, including Disney.

 

[unckeyherb]

I've got some opinions on both guys. I enjoy having someone from the NFL actually willing to openly discuss the calls that were made and try to explain how the rulings are supposed to be made. And Pereira has always been willing to say when the ref makes the wrong call. Saying 99.9% of the time he agrees with the ref is extremely off base. Just following him on twitter and he frequently disagrees with calls. If I had to guess I'd say as much as 30-40% of the time he disagrees.

The downside to Pereira is I think he's gotten to love the limelight. With no one who is still with the NFL taking up the public spokesman position on officiating, I still listen to him because face it, he's more knowledgeable about the correct interpretation of the rules than all but maybe 3 or 4 other people in the world right now. I quote him a lot because he's the only source worth quoting right now on most rules-based issues. But if someone from the NFL stepped up I would probably tune Pereira out. I think a number of his views on what rules should be are wrong, but I think when it comes to explaining how the ref is supposed to be making the call with the way the rules exist today, he's generally right.

Ok, so that said, I have found myself shaking my head at Gruden's comments when they do relate to the rules. I'm not sure if he plain doesn't know the rules, or if he is just voicing the popular opinion sometimes to gain popularity. I think it's a little of both, but more of the latter. I think Gruden does know a lot about the Xs and Os of football, but I can see him being a loudmouth to officials, and worse a loudmouth who is being loud about calls when he probably didn't understand how the rules worked in the first place.

well, I am not on Twitter, so not sure what he says on that forum. From my viewing experience, his video analysis almost always comes back in support of the refs. Perhaps they set it up that way, I don't know. I certainly don't doubt his knowledge of the rules, maybe just his selection of which rules to review..

Back when he was head of officiating he would always agree with the refs even when it was clear a day they were wrong. He would still find som way to twist it to make it look like his guys were right. Now it might be totally different, but a lot of us remember him always defending his guys even when they were pretty clearly in the wrong.

This is simply not true. One of the things I loved the most about the Official Review segment was that they admitted when they were wrong. It took all of about 45 seconds on google to show this was the case:PFT article when he was head of officials titled: Pereira "shocked" by Triplette's replay mistake

Video segment from NFLN where the opening topic is Pereira saying the officials failed to spot the ball correctly even after the spot was challenged.

meh, thats the .01% I was referring to. The vast majority of my recollection is closer to what Pnishthm posted.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

[quote name='Just Win Baby' timestamp='1325212792' His teams won 5 division titles in his 11 seasons as head coach. He has succeeded with strong offensive teams and strong defensive teams. His strong defensive teams in Tampa were due to Dungy and Kiffin, but at least he was smart enough not to mess with a good thing on that front. The best QB he ever had to work with was an old Rich Gannon, and he generally had a bunch of lousy QBs in Tampa (and no particularly good offensive skill players, either). All in all, I think he did a pretty good job.

As a Chargers fan, I would love to see him be the replacement for Norv Turner and see what he can do with the offensive talent the Chargers have.

I think he would be a perfect fit in San Diego.

 

[bonesman]

I like both of em.

 

[SWC]

i think john gruden is a chump and a grandstander of the worst kind who would probably crap on the head of his own kid if it meant that he would get a 1 percent viewer bump he is just annoying because if you listen to him every game even if it is between blaine oops i crapped my pants gabbert and indy stinky drawers napolis it is like the gods from olypmus are taking teh field its just insane according to him every week we are watching the best player at every position to ever play the game in the history of the universe its so overblown he shoudl probably be hired to work on the midway of a county fair carnival i bet he would get a 500 percent increase in riders on the tiltowirl take it to th e bank

 

[apalmer]

Is anyone, anywhere more consistently wrong about what the result of a challenge is going to be than Pereira? If he says "it's going to be reversed" you can bet that it won't be. If he says "I don't see anything that would change the call" it's a lock to be reversed.

 

[GeauxTigers]

Gruden needs to get the rules straight

I don't have much of an opinion on Pereira, but have always thought Gruden is an overrated blowhard in the booth and little more than a cheerleader as a coach. From a fan's perspective, he brings noting but worthless fluff to a broadcast. He proved me wrong on the coaching end by winning a superbowl many years ago, but I still think he's 80% scowl and 20% substance, and would not want to be a fan of the team that hires him next.

I think Gruden is a great announcer. He brings actual knowledge and analysis to the game, unlike Kornhole and Miller, who spewed political crap in our face all game long and don't know the first thing about the 3 technique or anything more complex than a 3 step drop. I love Gruden's enthusiasm and fist pumps as well.

 

[Devine Intervention]

Gruden needs to get the rules straight

I don't have much of an opinion on Pereira, but have always thought Gruden is an overrated blowhard in the booth and little more than a cheerleader as a coach. From a fan's perspective, he brings noting but worthless fluff to a broadcast. He proved me wrong on the coaching end by winning a superbowl many years ago, but I still think he's 80% scowl and 20% substance, and would not want to be a fan of the team that hires him next.

I think Gruden is a great announcer. He brings actual knowledge and analysis to the game, unlike Kornhole and Miller, who spewed political crap in our face all game long and don't know the first thing about the 3 technique or anything more complex than a 3 step drop. I love Gruden's enthusiasm and fist pumps as well.

Agreed. Gruden does a great job up there. Probably the best Monday night crew in a long time. Jaws is great up there and adds some real football knowledge as well. I see Jaws being more x's and o's and Gruden being more about the emotion of the game. And I think its his job to hype people. As far as bad QBs he doesnt say they are the next best thing, but he does zero in on their strengths and upsides. Id rather that then some old grump just hating on all the players and talking about how it was in their day. Most of all that guy has a serious passion for football and genuinely gets excited about the game and you cant fake that.

 

[Ghost Rider]

How many times, when a sideline catch is being reviewed where it is questionable whether the WR got two feet down and/or maintained control, has Gruden said, "It's close enough; I'd give it to him!"

I certainly appreciate the insight Gruden brings to the MNF booth, but his constant slurping of seemingly every player, as well as his mouth always yapping, preventing Jaws for giving us more of his insight, is annoying, and I can't wait for him to get back into coaching so we are spared it every Monday night.

 

[Pnishthm]

Is anyone, anywhere more consistently wrong about what the result of a challenge is going to be than Pereira? If he says "it's going to be reversed" you can bet that it won't be. If he says "I don't see anything that would change the call" it's a lock to be reversed.

Joe Thiesman was pretty bad at this...

 

[butcher boy]

What is the general MNF viewer opinion of Gruden?

I think the entire ESPN broadcast is an overproduced, over-rehearsed piece of garbage and has been for years no matter who is in front of the mic. Nothing any of the commentators say ever sounds genuine. It sounds like they've been rehearsing their lines all week and just pick the right parts of the game to bring them out. Mike Tirico might be the only guy whose at least tolerable, but Jaws and Gruden both have such an over the top delivery, it's like I'm instead watching them do an SNL parody of themselves. It was the same thing when it was Theisman and the other 2 clowns he was broadcasting with. I think maybe I need a nap.Bring back Dennis Miller.

 

[12punch]

Pereira fired his gun

 

[Kirby]

Pereira can't even do his job right.. Plenty of times he has been the rules "expert" and not known #### I know.

 

[gsmayes]

I think Pereira's FOX debut was on the Calvin TD catch, and ever since then I've hated him with a white hot rage.

 

[mightyeskimo]

Dennis, Dennis, Dennis. Lol

 

[Michael Brown]

i think john gruden is a chump and a grandstander of the worst kind who would probably crap on the head of his own kid if it meant that he would get a 1 percent viewer bump he is just annoying because if you listen to him every game even if it is between blaine oops i crapped my pants gabbert and indy stinky drawers napolis it is like the gods from olypmus are taking teh field its just insane according to him every week we are watching the best player at every position to ever play the game in the history of the universe its so overblown he shoudl probably be hired to work on the midway of a county fair carnival i bet he would get a 500 percent increase in riders on the tiltowirl take it to th e bank

I was just going to post this exact thing

 

[Multiple Scores]

So much hate for two people that dont annoy me at all.

 

[Ghost Rider]

What is the general MNF viewer opinion of Gruden?

I think the entire ESPN broadcast is an overproduced, over-rehearsed piece of garbage and has been for years no matter who is in front of the mic. Nothing any of the commentators say ever sounds genuine. It sounds like they've been rehearsing their lines all week and just pick the right parts of the game to bring them out. Mike Tirico might be the only guy whose at least tolerable, but Jaws and Gruden both have such an over the top delivery, it's like I'm instead watching them do an SNL parody of themselves. It was the same thing when it was Theisman and the other 2 clowns he was broadcasting with. I think maybe I need a nap.Bring back Dennis Miller.

I think Jaws would be much better in a two-man booth, but since he has only been in three-man booths with over the top blowhards like Kornheiser and Gruden, he probably feels like he has to almost shout his opinion for it to be heard or make a dent at all to the viewers. It's unfortunate. I think Jaws could have been an understated, but really good, color guy in a two-man booth like Troy Aikman, but he hasn't been given that chance yet.

 

[zed2283]

http://bostonherald.com/sports/columnists/football/view/20120101fox_sports_mike_pereira_must_call_it_both_ways

 

[NBusiness]

When has mike pereira been wrong??? I usually change the game on long challenges, but I have NEVER seen him say something completely incorrect. As for Gruden , all I gotta say is he's a million times better than dierdorf, Joe buck, Joe theismann, and cris collinsworth. Those guys are the ones who really suck.