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[Deranged Hermit]

I'm hoping Boldin is healthy this week because I really don't want to have to start MSW. I have Megatron, Boldin, Rice and MSW. Rice and Megatron are in my lineup now and I really want to put Boldin in that last slot.

 

[MCguidance]

So anyone considering benching MSW this week vs. Revis? Not to turn this into a WDIS, but my only other option is Meachem and I'm tempted to make the switch. Revis' track record against #1 WR's speaks for itself and Garrard is horrible on the road. Curious what others are doing this wk....

Considering Calvin over him this week. I think I finally learned my lesson and can't take Driver out of my lineup. We use only two WRs and I've been shuffling between the three. I hate to sit him but Revus does concern me. Can any Jet homers chime in? Is Revus like Nmamdi? Will he be used exclusively to nuetralize MSW?

Revis is an all-pro. If not better than Nmamdi, just as good. He plays differently, all over the field, covers differnt people, whereas NA stays on one side of the field I think. Both great corners.

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

I understand the variables of 'road game' and 'Revis', but for me MSW has cemented himself into the "never bench your studs" philosophy... I wouldn't bench Reggie Wayne or Larry Fitz if they were going against Revis in, let's say, a bad weather game for example - same theory applies to MSW vs Revis in a road game.

I'd rather my studs DIDN'T have bad matchups, but I lean towards not over-thinking things and taking them out of my lineup in exchange for a guy that is "just going to get you 40 yards".

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I understand the variables of 'road game' and 'Revis', but for me MSW has cemented himself into the "never bench your studs" philosophy... I wouldn't bench Reggie Wayne or Larry Fitz if they were going against Revis in, let's say, a bad weather game for example - same theory applies to MSW vs Revis in a road game. I'd rather my studs DIDN'T have bad matchups, but I lean towards not over-thinking things and taking them out of my lineup in exchange for a guy that is "just going to get you 40 yards".

Big difference between MSW and the Fitz ans Moss of the world is the QB.I dont trust Garrard on the road vs the NYJ secondary, coming off a bye. But I've been wrong about MSW all along and just riding his production. So I wouldnt listen to meBTW - big up to CP for sticking to his guns about his player. And I snagged him in a couple leagues just in case. LOL

 

[Tau837]

So anyone considering benching MSW this week vs. Revis? Not to turn this into a WDIS, but my only other option is Meachem and I'm tempted to make the switch. Revis' track record against #1 WR's speaks for itself and Garrard is horrible on the road. Curious what others are doing this wk....

Considering Calvin over him this week. I think I finally learned my lesson and can't take Driver out of my lineup. We use only two WRs and I've been shuffling between the three. I hate to sit him but Revus does concern me. Can any Jet homers chime in? Is Revus like Nmamdi? Will he be used exclusively to nuetralize MSW?

Revis is an all-pro. If not better than Nmamdi, just as good. He plays differently, all over the field, covers differnt people, whereas NA stays on one side of the field I think. Both great corners.

Revis is playing MUCH better than Asomugha this season. Asomugha was great the past two seasons, but this year he is not playing nearly as well for whatever reason.

 

[One]

Big difference between MSW and the Fitz ans Moss of the world is the QB.

+1, about all he has on his side is that D's have to try and contain Jones-Drew.

 

[lyon812]

Big difference between MSW and the Fitz ans Moss of the world is the QB.

+1, about all he has on his side is that D's have to try and contain Jones-Drew.

..and Garrard. He leads QBs in rushing. =p

 

[george]

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[skoal brother]

I'm seriously thinking about benching MSW for Sidney Rice this week but in my gut I think it's a mistake.

 

[Tom Servo]

Wayne & Welker are must starts for me this week. Megatron...meh. Maybe yes, maybe not. With Rice & Fargas at RB, it comes down to the flex play of Fargas vs. CJ vs. MSW. Two of these three make it; which two? I dunno.

 

[CrossEyed]

I'm seriously thinking about benching MSW for Sidney Rice this week but in my gut I think it's a mistake.

I have the same option, along with Calvin. Yes, I'm loaded at WR with Fitz and VJax as my #1 and #2. LOOK AT ME!!Right now I've got Rice in there, but I'm sure that will change a couple dozen times before Sunday.

 

[Grahamburn]

I'm starting Calvin, OchoCinco, and Steve Smith (Car) over him.

 

[stubby]

I'm starting S.Smith (Car) over him this week as well.

 

[Kuz]

I'm seriously thinking about benching MSW for Sidney Rice this week but in my gut I think it's a mistake.

I have the same option, along with Calvin. Yes, I'm loaded at WR with Fitz and VJax as my #1 and #2. LOOK AT ME!!Right now I've got Rice in there, but I'm sure that will change a couple dozen times before Sunday.

Well.. as a Vikes fan & MSW owner.. I would start Rice over Sims-Walker if I had Rice.. Now for my dilemma.. What would you do if you had Santonio Holmes. As a good Steelers homer would you start Holmes over MSW.. That's where I'm at..

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

I'm starting S.Smith (Car) over him this week as well.

I've got the same decision - leaning Smith right now

 

[CrossEyed]

I'm seriously thinking about benching MSW for Sidney Rice this week but in my gut I think it's a mistake.

I have the same option, along with Calvin. Yes, I'm loaded at WR with Fitz and VJax as my #1 and #2. LOOK AT ME!!Right now I've got Rice in there, but I'm sure that will change a couple dozen times before Sunday.

Well.. as a Vikes fan & MSW owner.. I would start Rice over Sims-Walker if I had Rice.. Now for my dilemma.. What would you do if you had Santonio Holmes. As a good Steelers homer would you start Holmes over MSW.. That's where I'm at..

I believe I would. I just don't trust Garrard this week.

 

[Kuz]

I'm seriously thinking about benching MSW for Sidney Rice this week but in my gut I think it's a mistake.

I have the same option, along with Calvin. Yes, I'm loaded at WR with Fitz and VJax as my #1 and #2. LOOK AT ME!!Right now I've got Rice in there, but I'm sure that will change a couple dozen times before Sunday.

Well.. as a Vikes fan & MSW owner.. I would start Rice over Sims-Walker if I had Rice.. Now for my dilemma.. What would you do if you had Santonio Holmes. As a good Steelers homer would you start Holmes over MSW.. That's where I'm at..

I believe I would. I just don't trust Garrard this week.

Thanks.. Plus Holmes is way overdue for a TD..

 

[beaubohm]

i have garrard and MSW. solid at RB (turner, s-jax) but very thin at WR. even still, i am strongly considering benching MSW, and starting mike wallace and donnie avery. rationale being i don't have another option for garrard, i still benefit thru garrard if MSW puts up big numbers, the team i am playing is not all that strong so i don't have to go all or nothing by playing both garrard and MSW, and i think both wallace and avery have solid sleeper potential/much more favorable matchups. am i crazy? am i way overthinking this?

my gut just keeps telling me to bench MSW, and i just can't afford a goose egg or really low number from BOTH garrard and MSW (currently tied for 1st in a 14-team league). any thoughts? sorry if this is the wrong forum for these questions, just thought given the thread that other readers of this post could be struggling with a similar decision.

 

[skoal brother]

I'm seriously thinking about benching MSW for Sidney Rice this week but in my gut I think it's a mistake.

I have the same option, along with Calvin. Yes, I'm loaded at WR with Fitz and VJax as my #1 and #2. LOOK AT ME!!Right now I've got Rice in there, but I'm sure that will change a couple dozen times before Sunday.

Well.. as a Vikes fan & MSW owner.. I would start Rice over Sims-Walker if I had Rice.. Now for my dilemma.. What would you do if you had Santonio Holmes. As a good Steelers homer would you start Holmes over MSW.. That's where I'm at..

I believe I would. I just don't trust Garrard this week.

Thanks.. Plus Holmes is way overdue for a TD..

I've changed them out twice today, I guess I think something will click and I'll get a warm and fuzzy about my decision......nope, not yet. ESPN has MSW projected at 11 points and S. Rice at 24 but if I had relied on their projections all year I would be 1 - 8. I'm going with Fitz, Driver, and S. Rice. Rice only had 5 points in the first meeting with the Lions this year.......oh hell, here I go again.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Both of MSW's big plays came against busted coverages last week. The Chiefs have given up at least 134 yards to the opponent's #1 WR in five out of the last six games. His other big games have come against the reeling Titans, the Rams, and against the Cards in garbage time. He's a very good WR, but he doesn't pop like an Austin or Rice when you watch him. I would be trying to deal him for a receiver with similar production, but more reason to think they'll sustain it over the rest of the season.

 

[Kuz]

Both of MSW's big plays came against busted coverages last week. The Chiefs have given up at least 134 yards to the opponent's #1 WR in five out of the last six games. His other big games have come against the reeling Titans, the Rams, and against the Cards in garbage time. He's a very good WR, but he doesn't pop like an Austin or Rice when you watch him. I would be trying to deal him for a receiver with similar production, but more reason to think they'll sustain it over the rest of the season.

I agree & Garrard is not the best & most reliable QB out there. I think he will have some down games going forward when the match up is tough like this week..

 

[Tau837]

I would be trying to deal him for a receiver with similar production, but more reason to think they'll sustain it over the rest of the season.

Like who?

 

[MCguidance]

Both of MSW's big plays came against busted coverages last week. The Chiefs have given up at least 134 yards to the opponent's #1 WR in five out of the last six games. His other big games have come against the reeling Titans, the Rams, and against the Cards in garbage time. He's a very good WR, but he doesn't pop like an Austin or Rice when you watch him. I would be trying to deal him for a receiver with similar production, but more reason to think they'll sustain it over the rest of the season.

I respect that POV - but who?

 

[editor47]

MSW is way better than Miles Freaking Austin.

I wouldn't be selling MSW. I'd be buying. (after this week; especially if he gets shut down by Revis, as everyone does).

 

[one time]

In the games since Williamson went down and he was thrust into the starting line up he has posted:

6 106 1 9 targets----22 points

6 81 0 10 targets----12 points

7 91 2 11 targets----28 points

---was benched---

9 120 0 11 targets----21 points

------BYE----------

2 9 0 3 targets----2 points

6 147 1 8 targets----26 points

When he has been playing, he has been studly other than once. He has been getting the targets, has been catching the targets, and has been getting in the end zone. I don't know how you can't like him...

 

[editor47]

49ers, Dolphins, Texans and Browns are still on the schedule.

As are Colts and Patriots, two teams they should be playing from behind against.

DO NOT TRADE HIM.

 

[dude]

all ya have to ask is who is throwing MSW the rock? David freaking Garrard...lol

MSW is a stud.

 

[skoal brother]

I picked MSW up on the WW in week 2. No way would I be willing to trade him but if I didn't have him I would be trying to make a trade. He's been my best move all year and would be starting him over Rice if he wasn't playing the Jets this week. I would be willing to bet he goes in or around the 5th round next year in the draft if not before.

 

[mdlane]

Both of MSW's big plays came against busted coverages last week. The Chiefs have given up at least 134 yards to the opponent's #1 WR in five out of the last six games. His other big games have come against the reeling Titans, the Rams, and against the Cards in garbage time. He's a very good WR, but he doesn't pop like an Austin or Rice when you watch him. I would be trying to deal him for a receiver with similar production, but more reason to think they'll sustain it over the rest of the season.

What does the bolded portion mean? That he doesn't pass your eye test?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

im tempted to bench him this week, but my only other option in one league is a very unproven Crabtree.

 

[Arnold. S]

I'm starting Fitz, Roddy, and Calvin infront of him in a 10 team league...

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

I would be trying to deal him for a receiver with similar production, but more reason to think they'll sustain it over the rest of the season.

Like who?

GB WRs (Driver/Jennings)85PIT WRs (Ward/Holmes)WelkerHesterMarshallWhiteDJax

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Both of MSW's big plays came against busted coverages last week. The Chiefs have given up at least 134 yards to the opponent's #1 WR in five out of the last six games. His other big games have come against the reeling Titans, the Rams, and against the Cards in garbage time. He's a very good WR, but he doesn't pop like an Austin or Rice when you watch him. I would be trying to deal him for a receiver with similar production, but more reason to think they'll sustain it over the rest of the season.

What does the bolded portion mean? That he doesn't pass your eye test?

All 3 certainly pass the eye test, but two of them can make plays with exceptional individual ability in addition to doing what theyre supposed to do in the offense.I see Rice getting extra yards/catches with superior body control and leaping ability

I see Austin getting extra yards/ TD with top end speed and tackle breaking ability

MSW does run excellent routes, he's strong, he has good hands, he's generally a precise WR with good speed for his size - but he doesn't make individual plays that a lot of WRs wouldn't make - making plays that most WRs couldn't make is what generally separates the good from the great in fantasy, with the exception of WRs in prolific offenses, and Jacksonville is not one of those.

 

[⚡DEADHEAD⚡]

I'm seriously thinking about benching MSW for Sidney Rice this week but in my gut I think it's a mistake.

I have the same option, along with Calvin. Yes, I'm loaded at WR with Fitz and VJax as my #1 and #2. LOOK AT ME!!Right now I've got Rice in there, but I'm sure that will change a couple dozen times before Sunday.

Well.. as a Vikes fan & MSW owner.. I would start Rice over Sims-Walker if I had Rice.. Now for my dilemma.. What would you do if you had Santonio Holmes. As a good Steelers homer would you start Holmes over MSW.. That's where I'm at..

I believe I would. I just don't trust Garrard this week.

Thanks.. Plus Holmes is way overdue for a TD..

There is no such thing as being "due" in FF.

 

[J R]

Both of MSW's big plays came against busted coverages last week. The Chiefs have given up at least 134 yards to the opponent's #1 WR in five out of the last six games. His other big games have come against the reeling Titans, the Rams, and against the Cards in garbage time. He's a very good WR, but he doesn't pop like an Austin or Rice when you watch him. I would be trying to deal him for a receiver with similar production, but more reason to think they'll sustain it over the rest of the season.

What does the bolded portion mean? That he doesn't pass your eye test?

All 3 certainly pass the eye test, but two of them can make plays with exceptional individual ability in addition to doing what theyre supposed to do in the offense.I see Rice getting extra yards/catches with superior body control and leaping ability

I see Austin getting extra yards/ TD with top end speed and tackle breaking ability

MSW does run excellent routes, he's strong, he has good hands, he's generally a precise WR with good speed for his size - but he doesn't make individual plays that a lot of WRs wouldn't make - making plays that most WRs couldn't make is what generally separates the good from the great in fantasy, with the exception of WRs in prolific offenses, and Jacksonville is not one of those.

And yet 1 of the 3 guys you mention here doesn't play for a prolific offense but is putting up stats.

 

[Tau837]

I would be trying to deal him for a receiver with similar production, but more reason to think they'll sustain it over the rest of the season.

Like who?

GB WRs (Driver/Jennings)85PIT WRs (Ward/Holmes)WelkerHesterMarshallWhiteDJax

I respect your opinion, but no way would I trade MSW for some of these guys.

 

[editor47]

I would be trying to deal him for a receiver with similar production, but more reason to think they'll sustain it over the rest of the season.

Like who?

GB WRs (Driver/Jennings)85

PIT WRs (Ward/Holmes)

Welker

Hester

Marshall

White

DJax

no to anyone i bolded. maybe to marshall, white and ward.

probably for welker.

 

[MCguidance]

I would be trying to deal him for a receiver with similar production, but more reason to think they'll sustain it over the rest of the season.

Like who?

GB WRs (Driver/Jennings)85

PIT WRs (Ward/Holmes)

Welker

Hester

Marshall

White

DJax

I don't think there is really a chance that the above I highlighted would be traded for MSW. At least not in my league. Might even be able to add Ward to that mix. Marshall might come to steep a price via name recognition, too. But I see what you mean, thanks for this.

 

[sdsjr3]

Both of MSW's big plays came against busted coverages last week. The Chiefs have given up at least 134 yards to the opponent's #1 WR in five out of the last six games. His other big games have come against the reeling Titans, the Rams, and against the Cards in garbage time. He's a very good WR, but he doesn't pop like an Austin or Rice when you watch him. I would be trying to deal him for a receiver with similar production, but more reason to think they'll sustain it over the rest of the season.

What does the bolded portion mean? That he doesn't pass your eye test?

All 3 certainly pass the eye test, but two of them can make plays with exceptional individual ability in addition to doing what theyre supposed to do in the offense.I see Rice getting extra yards/catches with superior body control and leaping ability

I see Austin getting extra yards/ TD with top end speed and tackle breaking ability

MSW does run excellent routes, he's strong, he has good hands, he's generally a precise WR with good speed for his size - but he doesn't make individual plays that a lot of WRs wouldn't make - making plays that most WRs couldn't make is what generally separates the good from the great in fantasy, with the exception of WRs in prolific offenses, and Jacksonville is not one of those.

And yet 1 of the 3 guys you mention here doesn't play for a prolific offense but is putting up stats.

And this is so typical of FF. The guy shows some signs of breaking out, everybody falls in love with him, he goes on to post consistently awesome numbers (save for ONE week), and now we need to try and find reasons to trade him so we don't get burned when he "cools off".



Because you likely paid a VERY low draft pick on him, or got him off of waivers, you ride the wave as long as it lasts. Not every hot stud cools off (last year alone: Slaton, Forte, DWill, Roddy, Royal, DJax, and there are more) yet we always see the "Should I sell high" posts. Look, Walker had the pedigree coming out. He's proving he can play at this level and he has a relatively weak schedule going forward. Bottom line: Why on earth would you trade this guy when you're not going to get value equal to his current performance in return?

As for this week, I'm starting him with confidence and I'M A JETS FAN.

 

[CrazyHorse1581]

Something to consider - We really have only two away games to base this hypothesis that MSW sucks away from home on.

Week 1 - they were away and MSW did not start or play.

Week 3 - Away at Houston (6 catches, 81 yards, 1 fumble) Not bad except for the fumble if your league scoring penalizes you for it.

Week 5 - Away at Seattle. MSW banged a hooker and was suspended for the game.

Week 8 - Away at Tennessee - 2 catches, 9 yards - Pretty terrible against a team coming off of the bye.

So in reality he's had just one stinker on the road and another decent day. One could argue that the reason Garrard's stats suck so bad away from home is due to the fact that in 2 of those games he was without his top receiver.

I don't think MSW will light the world on fire this weekend, but 4-6 catches for 60-80 yards is what I'm expecting.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

MSW passed the Revis test - smooth sailing from here on in. 4 of the Jags' next 5 are at home.

 

[ceo3west]

MSW passed the Revis test - smooth sailing from here on in. 4 of the Jags' next 5 are at home.

If he wasn't before, he is now officially a STUD.

 

[BespokeJort]

MSW passed the Revis test - smooth sailing from here on in. 4 of the Jags' next 5 are at home.

i dunno if he 'passed the revis test,' as his stats came before the Jets woke up and put Revis on him...you'd think they would have scouted a little betterthat said, I agree he's a stud, and am not planning on sitting him again.

 

[RoyDubb]

MSW passed the Revis test - smooth sailing from here on in. 4 of the Jags' next 5 are at home.

i dunno if he 'passed the revis test,' as his stats came before the Jets woke up and put Revis on him...you'd think they would have scouted a little betterthat said, I agree he's a stud, and am not planning on sitting him again.

when everyone was saying to bench MSW, even guys on ESPN/NFL network, i knew MSW would have a decent game.the masses are always wrong !!!!

 

[CrossEyed]

MSW passed the Revis test - smooth sailing from here on in. 4 of the Jags' next 5 are at home. :(

i dunno if he 'passed the revis test,' as his stats came before the Jets woke up and put Revis on him...you'd think they would have scouted a little betterthat said, I agree he's a stud, and am not planning on sitting him again.

when everyone was saying to bench MSW, even guys on ESPN/NFL network, i knew MSW would have a decent game.the masses are always wrong !!!!

It's nice that he found the end zone again, but 2 catches won't normally result in too many fantasy points.

 

[urbanhack]

MSW passed the Revis test - smooth sailing from here on in. 4 of the Jags' next 5 are at home.

i dunno if he 'passed the revis test,' as his stats came before the Jets woke up and put Revis on him...you'd think they would have scouted a little betterthat said, I agree he's a stud, and am not planning on sitting him again.

when everyone was saying to bench MSW, even guys on ESPN/NFL network, i knew MSW would have a decent game.the masses are always wrong !!!!

It's nice that he found the end zone again, but 2 catches won't normally result in too many fantasy points.

3 might.

 

[BRONG]

MSW passed the Revis test - smooth sailing from here on in. 4 of the Jags' next 5 are at home.

i dunno if he 'passed the revis test,' as his stats came before the Jets woke up and put Revis on him...you'd think they would have scouted a little betterthat said, I agree he's a stud, and am not planning on sitting him again.

when everyone was saying to bench MSW, even guys on ESPN/NFL network, i knew MSW would have a decent game.the masses are always wrong !!!!

It's nice that he found the end zone again, but 2 catches won't normally result in too many fantasy points.

3 might.

4 might.

 

[harryhood]

MSW passed the Revis test - smooth sailing from here on in. 4 of the Jags' next 5 are at home.

i dunno if he 'passed the revis test,' as his stats came before the Jets woke up and put Revis on him...you'd think they would have scouted a little betterthat said, I agree he's a stud, and am not planning on sitting him again.

when everyone was saying to bench MSW, even guys on ESPN/NFL network, i knew MSW would have a decent game.the masses are always wrong !!!!

It's nice that he found the end zone again, but 2 catches won't normally result in too many fantasy points.

5 days of saying not to start MSW and now people can still find the glass half empty on this guy after he put up 40 and a TD? Wow.Personally, I'll take that from my flex.

 

[smackdaddies]

MSW passed the Revis test - smooth sailing from here on in. 4 of the Jags' next 5 are at home.

i dunno if he 'passed the revis test,' as his stats came before the Jets woke up and put Revis on him...you'd think they would have scouted a little betterthat said, I agree he's a stud, and am not planning on sitting him again.

when everyone was saying to bench MSW, even guys on ESPN/NFL network, i knew MSW would have a decent game.the masses are always wrong !!!!

It's nice that he found the end zone again, but 2 catches won't normally result in too many fantasy points.

5 days of saying not to start MSW and now people can still find the glass half empty on this guy after he put up 40 and a TD? Wow.Personally, I'll take that from my flex.

Flex? He's one of my starters, with Devin Hester That's what you get for going RB/QB/TE/RB/WR/RB. Plus counting on Edwards or Moss to do anything....

 

[Knight who says Ni]

I understand the variables of 'road game' and 'Revis', but for me MSW has cemented himself into the "never bench your studs" philosophy... I wouldn't bench Reggie Wayne or Larry Fitz if they were going against Revis in, let's say, a bad weather game for example - same theory applies to MSW vs Revis in a road game. I'd rather my studs DIDN'T have bad matchups, but I lean towards not over-thinking things and taking them out of my lineup in exchange for a guy that is "just going to get you 40 yards".

I actually took this same line of thinking and started him despite the matchup, and I am glad I did. Well ... glad as a FF owner, not so much as a Jets fan. Ugh.