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Mike Thomas vs Jarrett Dillard (1 Viewer)

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Jacksonville Jags selected Mike Thomas WR Arizona in the 4th round and Jarrett Dillard WR Rice in the 5th round. The both seem to have some nice "sleeper" potential given that Torry Holt is the only established WR in Jax and he may not have much tread left on the tires.

That being said which of these two would you prefer to select in a rookie draft? Is one a "safer" pick and does one have a "higher" ceiling. It would seem the Jags thought more of Thomas since they selected him first- but have seen/heard that Dillard's production and leaping ability are second to none. Was thinking of taking a shot at one of these two in a rookie draft. just not sure which one would be the better one to go with? Maybe the answer is whichever one slides the furthest- lol.

 
I liked Dillard more before the draft, and that opinion hasn't changed now.

Which one got drafted 1st won't matter once camp rolls around. It's a 4th rounder vs. a 5th rounder. It's not like Jax has 1st round money tied up in Thomas. If Dillard outplays him in camp and on the field (which I fully expect him to), he'll be the one getting the ball.

 
The Jags likely had them both rated very closely as WRs, but players with punt return skills often get bumped up because they can fill the extra role. Hence Thomas' 4th round and Dillard's 5th round draft order. I wouldn't assume they necessarily like Thomas more as a WR than Dillard. As FreBaGel said, it won't matter once camp rolls around.

I could make a guess which will have a better career, but my guess would be worth no more than a coin flip so I'll leave that to others.

 
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Thomas routinely beat NFL caliber CBs in the Pac10...he went under the radar because he's from AZ, a school that traditionally doesn't produce NFL WRs.

I like Thomas more because I think he's just a better WR...I've only seen Dillard play twice though, so take it with a grain of salt. Thomas just seems like more of a natural WR to me. The position comes easy to him.

 
Thomas routinely beat NFL caliber CBs in the Pac10...he went under the radar because he's from AZ, a school that traditionally doesn't produce NFL WRs.
Thomas had his big games this past year against Toledo and New Mexico. He had only two 100 yard receiving games in 9 tries against Pac-10 opponents, and only 1 touchdown in those 9 games against Pac-10 opponents.Hell, he was held to 50 yards or less receiving in 6 of his 9 games against Pac-10 opponents. And it's not like the Pac-10 is known for its staunch defenses.Jarrett Dillard had 105/1 and 158/1 in his two games against BCS conference opponents (Vandy/Texas).Simply put, he had as many 100 yard receiving games and more TDs in his TWO games against BCS teams than Thomas did in his NINE games against BCS teams. Now, you are a lot more familiar with Thomas than I so I'm sure you have a whole list of reasons as to why this happened, but let's not sit here and pretend Thomas dominated BCS competition the same way Dillard did mid-major competition. Dillard performed far better in his games against BCS foes than Thomas did.
 
Wasn't much of a fan of either guy before the draft. Dillard was higher on my list though. The fact that Jack drafted them moved them both down the line IMO.

 
Thomas routinely beat NFL caliber CBs in the Pac10...he went under the radar because he's from AZ, a school that traditionally doesn't produce NFL WRs.
Thomas had his big games this past year against Toledo and New Mexico. He had only two 100 yard receiving games in 9 tries against Pac-10 opponents, and only 1 touchdown in those 9 games against Pac-10 opponents.Hell, he was held to 50 yards or less receiving in 6 of his 9 games against Pac-10 opponents. And it's not like the Pac-10 is known for its staunch defenses.Jarrett Dillard had 105/1 and 158/1 in his two games against BCS conference opponents (Vandy/Texas).Simply put, he had as many 100 yard receiving games and more TDs in his TWO games against BCS teams than Thomas did in his NINE games against BCS teams. Now, you are a lot more familiar with Thomas than I so I'm sure you have a whole list of reasons as to why this happened, but let's not sit here and pretend Thomas dominated BCS competition the same way Dillard did mid-major competition. Dillard performed far better in his games against BCS foes than Thomas did.
Texas and Vandy are two of the worst pass d's in college football
 
Thomas routinely beat NFL caliber CBs in the Pac10...he went under the radar because he's from AZ, a school that traditionally doesn't produce NFL WRs.
Thomas had his big games this past year against Toledo and New Mexico. He had only two 100 yard receiving games in 9 tries against Pac-10 opponents, and only 1 touchdown in those 9 games against Pac-10 opponents.Hell, he was held to 50 yards or less receiving in 6 of his 9 games against Pac-10 opponents. And it's not like the Pac-10 is known for its staunch defenses.Jarrett Dillard had 105/1 and 158/1 in his two games against BCS conference opponents (Vandy/Texas).Simply put, he had as many 100 yard receiving games and more TDs in his TWO games against BCS teams than Thomas did in his NINE games against BCS teams. Now, you are a lot more familiar with Thomas than I so I'm sure you have a whole list of reasons as to why this happened, but let's not sit here and pretend Thomas dominated BCS competition the same way Dillard did mid-major competition. Dillard performed far better in his games against BCS foes than Thomas did.
Those are interesting stats for Dillard that I wasn't aware of. Again, all I know of Dillard is the two games I saw him play and I wasn't overly impressed. Having watched every snap of Thomas' career I can say he routinely beat NFL caliber DBs, additionally there were stories of him beating Cason in practice regularly...the stats you are quoting regarding his yardage vs. Pac10 teams are terribly misleading IMHO. For whatever reason, AZ played a very conservative style of offense vs. Pac10 teams, but opened it up against lesser opponents.
 
All arguing about 100 yard games aside, Thomas is the all-time Pac 10 career receptions leader with 259. If nothing else, we know he can catch the ball. :goodposting:

 
Thomas routinely beat NFL caliber CBs in the Pac10...he went under the radar because he's from AZ, a school that traditionally doesn't produce NFL WRs.
Thomas had his big games this past year against Toledo and New Mexico. He had only two 100 yard receiving games in 9 tries against Pac-10 opponents, and only 1 touchdown in those 9 games against Pac-10 opponents.Hell, he was held to 50 yards or less receiving in 6 of his 9 games against Pac-10 opponents. And it's not like the Pac-10 is known for its staunch defenses.Jarrett Dillard had 105/1 and 158/1 in his two games against BCS conference opponents (Vandy/Texas).Simply put, he had as many 100 yard receiving games and more TDs in his TWO games against BCS teams than Thomas did in his NINE games against BCS teams. Now, you are a lot more familiar with Thomas than I so I'm sure you have a whole list of reasons as to why this happened, but let's not sit here and pretend Thomas dominated BCS competition the same way Dillard did mid-major competition. Dillard performed far better in his games against BCS foes than Thomas did.
Texas and Vandy are two of the worst pass d's in college football
And the Pac-10 is known for its great pass d's?Vanderbilt's pass defense ranked higher than everyone on Arizona's schedule except USC.
 
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I have been high on Thomas for a while. His short area quickness is a great asset. I will take him over Dillard as a player that can plays after the catch.

 
I really question Thomas character after watching his ridiculous actions in Arizonas Bowl Game (pushing his own coach like a baby), but I think he is going to be the better NFL receiver. Guy has tremendous speed. Not just track speed, he looked like the fastest guy on the field every game he played. Going to be a great slot receiver/returner. Dillard however, might be a better fantasy pick. Not a burner at all, but a pretty polished receiver.

 
The real winner here is David Garrard.

I like both rookie receivers a lot and was a bit saddened when they both went to the Jaguars. I was going to go after both in my rookie drafts, but now I'm not so sure.

fwiw, imo Thomas > Dillard, but it's close. I just think that Thomas has unique hands and quickness that will translate very well to the NFL. Dillard obviously has some nice skills, too, but I'm not sure he'll differentiate himself as easily or as quickly as Thomas.

 
Bumping up this older thread to add some interesting comments from Jags OC Dirk Koetter.

Q: Jacksonville drafted three rookie wide receivers and has another youngster in Mike Walker on the roster. Who has stood out so far this offseason?

Koetter: All of them have had their days where they've looked good. I'll start with Walker -- I'm a big Mike Walker fan, and I don't think any of us could ever fully comprehend how tough of a year Mike had last year. He came off a 100-yard-plus game against the Steelers, feeling like he's coming into his own, and then he hurts that knee and gets that fluke staph infection. All of a sudden, he's in the hospital and they say he's out for four weeks. Then his best friend passes, then his father passes, just an unbelievable string of events. Right now Mike looks confident and healthy, and I think he's going to do some good things for us.

The rookies have all had their moments and they all have different strengths.

Mike Thomas is the compact, strong, explosive in a short field type. I think his effectiveness will carry over into pads.

Tiquan Underwood, I had him graded as a fourth- or fifth-round receiver, so when he was still there in the seventh, it was great. Everybody was watching Rutgers film because they had some other players like Kenny Britt, but Tyquan stood out. I like him a lot, and Tyquan has legitimate speed. He looks skinny, but not in his uniform. I mean, you look at his body weight and you go 'Man, this guy's got to be tiny.' But he plays strong and he plays fast. He tweaked his ankle on the last day of our OTAs, so he might be on the shelf for these last few practices, but he's really stood out and flashed here.

Jarett Dillard has really impressed me. I watched his college film; you have to love what Rice University does on offense throwing it all over the yard, but you have to wonder how it would translate over to the NFL. He has surprised me every day. He has a real natural feel for football. His timing, getting in seams, running option routes, showing great hands. He's exceeded my personal expectations after his college film. He's been working in the slot. Personally, I was somewhat leery because Underwood and Thomas played a lot more slot in college, so I was not necessarily envisioning Dillard there, but some other people in our organization were, and they were right -- he's looked good in the slot.

The great thing about all three of them is that they have great attitudes. They all have come in here and just worked their tails off.

Q:Is it safe to say that if any of these guys keep it up and have a great camp and preseason that you'll find playing time for them this year?

Koetter: I think that's safe to say. One thing I've learned in my short time in the NFL at the receiver position more than any other position is that we better not get too excited while we're practicing in shorts. You're not seeing any press coverage in OTAs, but when you get into those preseason games where you're going up against players that are pressing us, if we're still as excited then, it's safe to say those guys have a chance to get some playing time.
http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasyfo...et_headline_div
 
Torry Holt was a paragraph or two further up the page. If you read between the lines, don't be surprised if Holt misses some practices to save himself for the games.

Q: It seems like for the third season in a row your receiving corps has a fresh look to it. I'd like to start with Torry Holt. We've done a lot of research on him but felt we needed to go to the source on this one -- aside from his experience, what about him do you like for your offense?

Koetter: Well, it's hard to say 'aside from his experience' because when you talk to Torry for five seconds, his knowledge of the game and enthusiasm for the game jump out at you the most. Torry's a football junkie. Having a guy who you know will be in the right place at the right time and knows how to get himself open whether it's versus man or zone coverage is a big plus for us. I like that, I like the fact that he's a film junkie; he's coming to me telling me what he'll work against a certain team or guy based on what he's watching. He gets chemistry, he gets swagger, he gets concepts and the combination of all that stuff is valuable. The fact that we re-did the receiving corps and added a bunch of young guys sort of made him a mentor to them, which is also huge.

Q:How has he looked so far on the field?

Koetter: He's looked good. He doesn't run like he once did, and when we became interested in Torry we watched a lot of film on him and Torry has explained to me that he knows how to take care of himself and be ready when the time comes. You've got to take him on his word on that.
 
maybe I'm just reading what I want to, since I have Dillard in several dynasty leagues, but he sounds like he's made the best impression.

 
Dilliard will make the best short-term impression because he the best hands, routes, and brains of the three. He's also taller than Thomas. One of the first things Koetter said about Thomas was "compact" and "short-field type." This tells you that Koetter and the staff are waiting to see if Thomas can handle deep routes in the pros. He did so in college when they could execute at AZ, but I think it will take longer for Thomas to prove that he can be an every down receiver than it will take Dilliard. At best, Thomas has more long-term upside but Dilliard is probably the better bet short-term. Unless Thomas just turns up the heat in pads and blows everyone away I expect it to be pretty close between Dilliard, Thomas, and Underwood. Underwood might even get retained over a veteran who they think lacks what it takes long-term to be a good professional...

 
Those are interesting stats for Dillard that I wasn't aware of. Again, all I know of Dillard is the two games I saw him play and I wasn't overly impressed. Having watched every snap of Thomas' career I can say he routinely beat NFL caliber DBs, additionally there were stories of him beating Cason in practice regularly...the stats you are quoting regarding his yardage vs. Pac10 teams are terribly misleading IMHO. For whatever reason, AZ played a very conservative style of offense vs. Pac10 teams, but opened it up against lesser opponents.
please list some of these NFL caliber DB's. i took dillard @ 3.07. thomas was also available. i liked dillard being a more polished receiver, great leaping & insane college stats. plus he's a character guy & there's a lotta blow available down there in jax.
Dillard was the team's captain at Rice for three of four years. Last year with Rice, Dillard had 87 receptions for 1,310 yards and an eye-popping 20 touchdowns. He finished his college career with 60 TDs
 
Are we talking about that Dillard guy from Rice who had 292 catches, 4138 yards and 60 touchdowns?

 
Are we talking about that Dillard guy from Rice who had 292 catches, 4138 yards and 60 touchdowns?
yep. any comment being from. or liking , texas?
The guy catches EVERYTHING thrown his away, it's unreal what this guys has done and can do. His size and speed is very deceptive. Those that jumped on Chris Johnson when the hype began reaped the rewards, I know I did. Just like Chris don't let his size fool you, he's the real deal. He's smart and takes football very seriously. Take him and don't look back, I've watched him for the last two years at Rice and still can't believe that someone this small can do the things he does.There's no question is my mind that Dillard>>>>>>>>>>>>Thomas and it's not close.:twocents:Tex
 
Are we talking about that Dillard guy from Rice who had 292 catches, 4138 yards and 60 touchdowns?
yep. any comment being from. or liking , texas?
There's no question is my mind that Dillard>>>>>>>>>>>>Thomas and it's not close.:twocents:Tex
Serious question: What did you see out of Mike Thomas that makes you think Dillard is better. Dillards hands and body control are unreal, I have watched him make some catches walking the tightrope by the sideline. But his the quickness is just not there, IMO. I am not saying he won't carve out a great niche in the NFL, because he is a very polished receiver.
 
dillard 5-10 191

4.57, 40 yard dash (22nd among wr's)

bench 13 reps (14th among wr's)

42.5 vertical (1st among wr's. 3rd best at the combine, any position)

10.9 broad jump (tied for 1st among wr's. tied for 4th overall, any position)

7.1 3 cone (20th among wr's)

4.41 20 yard shuttle (23rd among wr's)

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thomas 5-8 195

4.40 40 yard dash (5th among wr's, 5th over all , any position)

bench n/a

40.5 vertical (3rd among wr's, tied for 9th, any position)

10.6 broadjump (6th among wr's, tied for 20th any possition)

6.65 3 cone (3rd among wr's, 10th anyposition)

4.28 20 yard shuttle (19th among wr's)

 
Balco said:
BigTex said:
DA RAIDERS said:
BigTex said:
Are we talking about that Dillard guy from Rice who had 292 catches, 4138 yards and 60 touchdowns?
yep. any comment being from. or liking , texas?
There's no question is my mind that Dillard>>>>>>>>>>>>Thomas and it's not close.:twocents:Tex
Serious question: What did you see out of Mike Thomas that makes you think Dillard is better. Dillards hands and body control are unreal, I have watched him make some catches walking the tightrope by the sideline. But his the quickness is just not there, IMO. I am not saying he won't carve out a great niche in the NFL, because he is a very polished receiver.
It's not what I've seen out of Thomas, it's what I've seen out of Dillard. The only thing (talent wise) that Thomas has over Dillard is speed and that's not saying much. We've seen players come and go in the NFL with "speed" and don't do squat.
 
& if it's just numbers, better put tiquan underwood in the discussion as well.

4.41 40 yard dash (6th)

bench 7 reps (last) but at least he did it, unlike thomas. who's supposed to be strong.

41.5 vertical (2nd)

10.9 broadjump (tied for 1st)

6.62 3 cone (1st)

4.11 20 yard shuffle (3rd)

 
I think it's interesting how many in this thread overlook Underwood in this discussion. Yet Koetter clearly states that he was rated 4th-5th round by the Jags. To me, that means he is being considered equally to Thomas and Dillard, who were drafted in, you guessed it, the 4th and 5th round.

In every discussion of the young Jax WRs, Underwood is always mentioned, and the feedback has been very favorable. TU was kind of the overlooked guy this year at Rutgers. He had some problems with drops earlier in the season, and Britt just kind of took over the offense. But this is a guy who put up huge numbers in 07 and has experience running out of the wildcat.

 
I think it's interesting how many in this thread overlook Underwood in this discussion. Yet Koetter clearly states that he was rated 4th-5th round by the Jags. To me, that means he is being considered equally to Thomas and Dillard, who were drafted in, you guessed it, the 4th and 5th round.In every discussion of the young Jax WRs, Underwood is always mentioned, and the feedback has been very favorable. TU was kind of the overlooked guy this year at Rutgers. He had some problems with drops earlier in the season, and Britt just kind of took over the offense. But this is a guy who put up huge numbers in 07 and has experience running out of the wildcat.
No disrespect but he wasn't mentioned because the OP is asking about Thomas and Dillard.
 
I think it's interesting how many in this thread overlook Underwood in this discussion. Yet Koetter clearly states that he was rated 4th-5th round by the Jags. To me, that means he is being considered equally to Thomas and Dillard, who were drafted in, you guessed it, the 4th and 5th round.In every discussion of the young Jax WRs, Underwood is always mentioned, and the feedback has been very favorable. TU was kind of the overlooked guy this year at Rutgers. He had some problems with drops earlier in the season, and Britt just kind of took over the offense. But this is a guy who put up huge numbers in 07 and has experience running out of the wildcat.
I have seen Rutgers play a ton, and have broken down two of their games in depth. No idea what the Jaguars were watching, but Underwood is not a good pro prospect at all. He might look great in shorts, but wait until he puts the pads on against real nfl defenders.
 
Thomas routinely beat NFL caliber CBs in the Pac10...he went under the radar because he's from AZ, a school that traditionally doesn't produce NFL WRs.
Thomas had his big games this past year against Toledo and New Mexico. He had only two 100 yard receiving games in 9 tries against Pac-10 opponents, and only 1 touchdown in those 9 games against Pac-10 opponents.Hell, he was held to 50 yards or less receiving in 6 of his 9 games against Pac-10 opponents. And it's not like the Pac-10 is known for its staunch defenses.

Jarrett Dillard had 105/1 and 158/1 in his two games against BCS conference opponents (Vandy/Texas).

Simply put, he had as many 100 yard receiving games and more TDs in his TWO games against BCS teams than Thomas did in his NINE games against BCS teams. Now, you are a lot more familiar with Thomas than I so I'm sure you have a whole list of reasons as to why this happened, but let's not sit here and pretend Thomas dominated BCS competition the same way Dillard did mid-major competition. Dillard performed far better in his games against BCS foes than Thomas did.
Those are interesting stats for Dillard that I wasn't aware of. Again, all I know of Dillard is the two games I saw him play and I wasn't overly impressed. Having watched every snap of Thomas' career I can say he routinely beat NFL caliber DBs, additionally there were stories of him beating Cason in practice regularly...the stats you are quoting regarding his yardage vs. Pac10 teams are terribly misleading IMHO. For whatever reason, AZ played a very conservative style of offense vs. Pac10 teams, but opened it up against lesser opponents.
That's great info right there that I always like to read. What were the names of some of those NFL caliber DBs? Also, is there any youtube film on him beating those same DBs?
 
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Thomas routinely beat NFL caliber CBs in the Pac10...he went under the radar because he's from AZ, a school that traditionally doesn't produce NFL WRs.
Thomas had his big games this past year against Toledo and New Mexico. He had only two 100 yard receiving games in 9 tries against Pac-10 opponents, and only 1 touchdown in those 9 games against Pac-10 opponents.Hell, he was held to 50 yards or less receiving in 6 of his 9 games against Pac-10 opponents. And it's not like the Pac-10 is known for its staunch defenses.

Jarrett Dillard had 105/1 and 158/1 in his two games against BCS conference opponents (Vandy/Texas).

Simply put, he had as many 100 yard receiving games and more TDs in his TWO games against BCS teams than Thomas did in his NINE games against BCS teams. Now, you are a lot more familiar with Thomas than I so I'm sure you have a whole list of reasons as to why this happened, but let's not sit here and pretend Thomas dominated BCS competition the same way Dillard did mid-major competition. Dillard performed far better in his games against BCS foes than Thomas did.
Those are interesting stats for Dillard that I wasn't aware of. Again, all I know of Dillard is the two games I saw him play and I wasn't overly impressed. Having watched every snap of Thomas' career I can say he routinely beat NFL caliber DBs, additionally there were stories of him beating Cason in practice regularly...the stats you are quoting regarding his yardage vs. Pac10 teams are terribly misleading IMHO. For whatever reason, AZ played a very conservative style of offense vs. Pac10 teams, but opened it up against lesser opponents.
That's great info right there that I always like to read. What were the names of some of those NFL caliber DBs? Also, is there any youtube film on him beating those same DBs?
PAC-10 + NFL caliber DB's = does not compute.
 
I think it's interesting how many in this thread overlook Underwood in this discussion. Yet Koetter clearly states that he was rated 4th-5th round by the Jags. To me, that means he is being considered equally to Thomas and Dillard, who were drafted in, you guessed it, the 4th and 5th round.In every discussion of the young Jax WRs, Underwood is always mentioned, and the feedback has been very favorable. TU was kind of the overlooked guy this year at Rutgers. He had some problems with drops earlier in the season, and Britt just kind of took over the offense. But this is a guy who put up huge numbers in 07 and has experience running out of the wildcat.
I have seen Rutgers play a ton, and have broken down two of their games in depth. No idea what the Jaguars were watching, but Underwood is not a good pro prospect at all. He might look great in shorts, but wait until he puts the pads on against real nfl defenders.
Not to diminish Balco Scouting Services, but I think I'll stick with the Jaguars when assessing Underwood's pro prospects.
 
I think it's interesting how many in this thread overlook Underwood in this discussion. Yet Koetter clearly states that he was rated 4th-5th round by the Jags. To me, that means he is being considered equally to Thomas and Dillard, who were drafted in, you guessed it, the 4th and 5th round.In every discussion of the young Jax WRs, Underwood is always mentioned, and the feedback has been very favorable. TU was kind of the overlooked guy this year at Rutgers. He had some problems with drops earlier in the season, and Britt just kind of took over the offense. But this is a guy who put up huge numbers in 07 and has experience running out of the wildcat.
I have seen Rutgers play a ton, and have broken down two of their games in depth. No idea what the Jaguars were watching, but Underwood is not a good pro prospect at all. He might look great in shorts, but wait until he puts the pads on against real nfl defenders.
Not to diminish Balco Scouting Services, but I think I'll stick with the Jaguars when assessing Underwood's pro prospects.
Yeah, those guys must be pretty good with their previous track record of drafting Matt Jones, Reggie Williams, and Ernest Wilford ;)
 
I think it's interesting how many in this thread overlook Underwood in this discussion. Yet Koetter clearly states that he was rated 4th-5th round by the Jags. To me, that means he is being considered equally to Thomas and Dillard, who were drafted in, you guessed it, the 4th and 5th round.In every discussion of the young Jax WRs, Underwood is always mentioned, and the feedback has been very favorable. TU was kind of the overlooked guy this year at Rutgers. He had some problems with drops earlier in the season, and Britt just kind of took over the offense. But this is a guy who put up huge numbers in 07 and has experience running out of the wildcat.
I have seen Rutgers play a ton, and have broken down two of their games in depth. No idea what the Jaguars were watching, but Underwood is not a good pro prospect at all. He might look great in shorts, but wait until he puts the pads on against real nfl defenders.
Not to diminish Balco Scouting Services, but I think I'll stick with the Jaguars when assessing Underwood's pro prospects.
Yeah, those guys must be pretty good with their previous track record of drafting Matt Jones, Reggie Williams, and Ernest Wilford ;)
not to mention the recent Williamson and Porter experiments.JAX is lucky that the O line should be a lot better (healthier) than last year, and the run game should continue to be the defensive focus.And for the OP - my vote is Dillard. I'm not a college game fan, but watching the youtube / pre-dynasty startup draft research Dillard just looks smooth and makes plays. Possibly a (very) little slow for a WR, and maybe (best case) a Hines Ward / FF WR3 type of WR and at least a 2-4 year hold in dynasty.
 
I think it's interesting how many in this thread overlook Underwood in this discussion. Yet Koetter clearly states that he was rated 4th-5th round by the Jags. To me, that means he is being considered equally to Thomas and Dillard, who were drafted in, you guessed it, the 4th and 5th round.

In every discussion of the young Jax WRs, Underwood is always mentioned, and the feedback has been very favorable. TU was kind of the overlooked guy this year at Rutgers. He had some problems with drops earlier in the season, and Britt just kind of took over the offense. But this is a guy who put up huge numbers in 07 and has experience running out of the wildcat.
I have seen Rutgers play a ton, and have broken down two of their games in depth. No idea what the Jaguars were watching, but Underwood is not a good pro prospect at all. He might look great in shorts, but wait until he puts the pads on against real nfl defenders.
Not to diminish Balco Scouting Services, but I think I'll stick with the Jaguars when assessing Underwood's pro prospects.
Not saying you have to put any stock in my analysis. Just telling you what I see when I focused on a player in a game, not on his stats:From my post on Rutgers v. Fresno State:

TIQUAN UNDERWOOD, WIDE RECEIVER (6'2 185), SENIOR (# 7)

Stats: 6 rec. 73 yards (12.2 avg)

Underwood caught the same amount of passes as Britt, but I did not come away impressed. He is not a great route runner, and I did not see elite speed. He also dropped a couple of passes. Whereas Britt consistently got separation on deep routes, Underwood could barely get a step ahead of the defender.

 
I think it's interesting how many in this thread overlook Underwood in this discussion. Yet Koetter clearly states that he was rated 4th-5th round by the Jags. To me, that means he is being considered equally to Thomas and Dillard, who were drafted in, you guessed it, the 4th and 5th round.In every discussion of the young Jax WRs, Underwood is always mentioned, and the feedback has been very favorable. TU was kind of the overlooked guy this year at Rutgers. He had some problems with drops earlier in the season, and Britt just kind of took over the offense. But this is a guy who put up huge numbers in 07 and has experience running out of the wildcat.
I have seen Rutgers play a ton, and have broken down two of their games in depth. No idea what the Jaguars were watching, but Underwood is not a good pro prospect at all. He might look great in shorts, but wait until he puts the pads on against real nfl defenders.
Not to diminish Balco Scouting Services, but I think I'll stick with the Jaguars when assessing Underwood's pro prospects.
Yeah, those guys must be pretty good with their previous track record of drafting Matt Jones, Reggie Williams, and Ernest Wilford :mellow:
Hence their firing of Shack and the hiring of Gene Smith as the new GM. Underwood has looked very good in underwear during the OTAs, but Dillard and Thomas seem to have more NFL ready skills. I happen to like all three to become contributors on offense, but something about Dillard has me sitting up and taking notice. He's polished, with great hands and a huge vertical, and seems to step up in big games. Thomas is similar, but seems less NFL-ready than Dillard to me. It's tough, however, to really say much of anything about these rookies until training camp is underway and they start playing in pads.
 
Beat writer Michael Wright confirmed that the Jaguars' confidence in their rookie receivers was a primary factor in the Dennis Northcutt trade.

Fourth-rounder Mike Thomas is a prototypical slot receiver with great short area quickness and after-the-catch running ability. Fifth-rounder Jarett Dillard is a polished receiver with eye-popping college production, outstanding leaping ability and great hands. He would likely be the choice to start should Mike Walker or Torry Holt suffer an injury.

 
Scout.com's Adam Caplan calls rookie Mike Thomas the most likely option to replace Dennis Northcutt as Jacksonville's slot receiver.

Thomas would get the nod over fellow draft picks Tiquan Underwood and Jarett Dillard. Northcutt caught 44 passes in the slot last year, but the Jags will likely rotate their rookies. Unless Torry Holt or Mike Walker gets injured and Thomas moves outside, the Arizona product won't be much of a sleeper.
http://jac.scout.com/2/876151.html
 
It's going to be interesting to see how the Jags WRs are used this season.

-MSW is clearly a starter and should see a decent amount of targets.

-Marcedes Lewis and Zach Miller2 will be battling for playing time and targets at TE.

-Mike Thomas looked extremely impressive as a slot WR his rookie season, but can he translate that to a starting position?

-Dillard's season was cut short by injury, but he looked impressive in limit time and is closer to the physical build you'd want out of a starter.

-Troy Williamson (RFA) was a superstar in 2009 preseason and many thought he was due to have a breakout season before season ending injury in the first game.

-Tiquan Underwood was not as NFL ready as fellow rookies Thomas and Dillard, but might have more upside potential as he has more the prototype build and crazy sick speed.

-And don't sleep on Nate Hughes. He was actually getting much more field time early in the 2009 season before having an issue with drops. But he came back strong and is clearly in the mix.

 
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-Dillard's season was cut short by injury, but he looked impressive in limit time and is closer to the physical build you'd want out of a starter.
He's still on the small side. Thomas will be the WR #2 to start, but if he doesn't run with it I look for Jacksonville to keep him in the slot and look elsewhere. Don't be surprised to see Jacksonville take a more prototypical WR in the 3rd round. Don't expect them to take Dez Bryant at #9, because they have too many other needs. A pass rusher, safety, LB, and QB are postitons of need. They would love for Rolando McClain to fall to them. Of course if one of the franchise QBs is there at #9 they may pull the trigger.
 

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