Yes. Could you answer the question? Was last week more of a reflection of the Vick of the future or is it safe to temper our expectations?I am not pretending to be unbiased... but I am looking to generate discussion on Vick's FFL playoff status...Are you drunk?
I'm simply attempting to provide a place for the voice of reason to exorcise it's demons. Going forward I suspect other teams follow this gamplan. After a week of "greatest player in the NFL" chatter I suspect tempered expectations are in order.Congrats to you not buying into the hype AFTER his worst game of the year.
If things continue as is, he will lead his team over what some call the best team in the NFL, the Giants. Not sure what that does for tempering expectations...I'm simply attempting to provide a place for the voice of reason to exorcise it's demons. Going forward I suspect other teams follow this gamplan. After a week of "greatest player in the NFL" chatter I suspect tempered expectations are in order.Congrats to you not buying into the hype AFTER his worst game of the year.
Does this gameplan come with the same front 4 the Giants are using?I'm simply attempting to provide a place for the voice of reason to exorcise it's demons. Going forward I suspect other teams follow this gamplan. After a week of "greatest player in the NFL" chatter I suspect tempered expectations are in order.Congrats to you not buying into the hype AFTER his worst game of the year.
I think, given this game, it's prudent for teams looking toward the big picture to look forward to weeks 15 and to a lesser extent 16.I've been a longtime Eagles fan so I always try to temper my expectations, however Vick has been very difficult to stop. Last year, Chris Johnson was unstoppable, Vick has looked close to that, so saying he could be the Best player this year is not a stretch. 5 out of the 6 weeks he's played, he has been crazy good.
For those of us who are looking forward to the fantasy playoffs... yes.Does this gameplan come with the same front 4 the Giants are using?I'm simply attempting to provide a place for the voice of reason to exorcise it's demons. Going forward I suspect other teams follow this gamplan. After a week of "greatest player in the NFL" chatter I suspect tempered expectations are in order.Congrats to you not buying into the hype AFTER his worst game of the year.
Agreed 100%He's not as good tonite, but this would have qualified as a great game for him when he was in Atlanta.
Is that the crux of your argument? You're worried that your QB will only have 290+ total yards with a TD and a 2-point conversion in the fantasy playoffs? (Plus an easy TD dropped in the end zone).For those of us who are looking forward to the fantasy playoffs... yes.Does this gameplan come with the same front 4 the Giants are using?
I see. I couldn't tell if this was a fantasy-related thread or not. I'd probably take my chances with him. He's posting a middle of the road score in terms of FFL QB yet it's easily his worst non-injury game this season.For those of us who are looking forward to the fantasy playoffs... yes.Does this gameplan come with the same front 4 the Giants are using?I'm simply attempting to provide a place for the voice of reason to exorcise it's demons. Going forward I suspect other teams follow this gamplan. After a week of "greatest player in the NFL" chatter I suspect tempered expectations are in order.Congrats to you not buying into the hype AFTER his worst game of the year.
He's posted great numbers against WAS and JAX. Props. He's posted solid but unspectacular numbers against GB/DET/IND. Not bad. I'm far from saying Vick is a bum.... I'm just amused by the last week's worth of coverage and a little nervous for those of us who are forced to decide on playing him or not week 15...I see. I couldn't tell if this was a fantasy-related thread or not. I'd probably take my chances with him. He's posting a middle of the road score in terms of FFL QB yet it's easily his worst non-injury game this season.For those of us who are looking forward to the fantasy playoffs... yes.Does this gameplan come with the same front 4 the Giants are using?I'm simply attempting to provide a place for the voice of reason to exorcise it's demons. Going forward I suspect other teams follow this gamplan. After a week of "greatest player in the NFL" chatter I suspect tempered expectations are in order.Congrats to you not buying into the hype AFTER his worst game of the year.
Well given I don't get points for Easy TD's dropped in the endzone... and I'm in a TD heavy league... yeah.Is that the crux of your argument? You're worried that your QB will only have 290+ total yards with a TD and a 2-point conversion in the fantasy playoffs? (Plus an easy TD dropped in the end zone).For those of us who are looking forward to the fantasy playoffs... yes.Does this gameplan come with the same front 4 the Giants are using?
See, if you would just list all leagues you belong in, along with rules, draft results, and the last 3 message board posts we can make sense of this threadWell given I don't get points for Easy TD's dropped in the endzone... and I'm in a TD heavy league... yeah.Is that the crux of your argument? You're worried that your QB will only have 290+ total yards with a TD and a 2-point conversion in the fantasy playoffs? (Plus an easy TD dropped in the end zone).For those of us who are looking forward to the fantasy playoffs... yes.Does this gameplan come with the same front 4 the Giants are using?
I'll defer to those who are in "easy TD dropped in endzone" leagues.See, if you would just list all leagues you belong in, along with rules, draft results, and the last 3 message board posts we can make sense of this threadWell given I don't get points for Easy TD's dropped in the endzone... and I'm in a TD heavy league... yeah.Is that the crux of your argument? You're worried that your QB will only have 290+ total yards with a TD and a 2-point conversion in the fantasy playoffs? (Plus an easy TD dropped in the end zone).For those of us who are looking forward to the fantasy playoffs... yes.Does this gameplan come with the same front 4 the Giants are using?
So the crux of your argument is that Jason Avant will drop a TD in the end zone the next time the Eagles play the Giants?Well given I don't get points for Easy TD's dropped in the endzone... and I'm in a TD heavy league... yeah.Is that the crux of your argument? You're worried that your QB will only have 290+ total yards with a TD and a 2-point conversion in the fantasy playoffs? (Plus an easy TD dropped in the end zone).For those of us who are looking forward to the fantasy playoffs... yes.Does this gameplan come with the same front 4 the Giants are using?
The cruz of my argument is that people were annointing him the "Best player in the NFL" and even if Avant didin't drop that pass... he passed for 1TD this week.......against the team he faces week 15. If I'm upsetting people by pointing this out, I'm sorry... merely trying to raise awareness to a potential issue to those of us who ill be in the payoffs.So the crux of your argument is that Jason Avant will drop a TD in the end zone the next time the Eagles play the Giants?Well given I don't get points for Easy TD's dropped in the endzone... and I'm in a TD heavy league... yeah.Is that the crux of your argument? You're worried that your QB will only have 290+ total yards with a TD and a 2-point conversion in the fantasy playoffs? (Plus an easy TD dropped in the end zone).For those of us who are looking forward to the fantasy playoffs... yes.Does this gameplan come with the same front 4 the Giants are using?
So you're starting him week 15 with confidence?WOW...and I thought I just watched a pretty darn good game by Vick. No passing TD..but shouldahad at least one, and did have another rushing TD. 250+ yards against the NFL's second ranked defense and a completion % over 60%Yes...Vick is a legit MVP candidate.
Just seems odd to make this argument after the guy just had a very very good game against one of the NFL's elite defenses. TD's are not the only measuring stick.So you're starting him week 15 with confidence?WOW...and I thought I just watched a pretty darn good game by Vick. No passing TD..but shouldahad at least one, and did have another rushing TD. 250+ yards against the NFL's second ranked defense and a completion % over 60%Yes...Vick is a legit MVP candidate.
Every minute... you want to re-read my whole post that you pruned?XDid you watch the game?he passed for 1TD this week....
Oh noes.ban this mother ####er
So which quarter did he throw this TD pass, and who caught it?Every minute... you want to re-read my whole post that you pruned?XDid you watch the game?he passed for 1TD this week....
MY statements started early in the 2nd half... and they were after watching the game. Most of us have been subjected to "Vick is the best player in the NFL" hyperbole over the last week. He's been very...VERY good to date. However the team he faces week 15 has just laid down a blueprint on how to actually bend and not break. Giants will still be playing games that patter at that point so I think it's fair to raise a red flag to Vick owners. Seems pretty simple really.Just seems odd to make this argument after the guy just had a very very good game against one of the NFL's elite defenses. TD's are not the only measuring stick.So you're starting him week 15 with confidence?WOW...and I thought I just watched a pretty darn good game by Vick. No passing TD..but shouldahad at least one, and did have another rushing TD. 250+ yards against the NFL's second ranked defense and a completion % over 60%Yes...Vick is a legit MVP candidate.
Cmon Wilked... you're better than this.and even if Avant didin't drop that pass... he passed for 1TD this week....
If his floor is 1 passing TD + 1 rushing TD.. I'll start him with confidenceThe cruz of my argument is that people were annointing him the "Best player in the NFL" and even if Avant didin't drop that pass... he passed for 1TD this week.......against the team he faces week 15.
He put up 278 combined yards and a touchdown in a little over a half of play against GB. Unspectacular?He's posted great numbers against WAS and JAX. Props. He's posted solid but unspectacular numbers against GB/DET/IND. Not bad.
I'm far from saying Vick is a bum.... I'm just amused by the last week's worth of coverage and a little nervous for those of us who are forced to decide on playing him or not week 15...
HE had a passing TD? Or are you in one of those "almost is good enough" leagues?If his floor is 1 passing TD + 1 rushing TD.. I'll start him with confidenceThe cruz of my argument is that people were annointing him the "Best player in the NFL" and even if Avant didin't drop that pass... he passed for 1TD this week.......against the team he faces week 15.
Who are they?Granted< its a bit early... and I agree he's very likely to at least post decent numbers. However my point remains. He's been recent annointed the best player in the NFL, and this game (being that he faces them yet again in a very very important week) should have vick owners a bit nervois.I don't really see how tonight would worry anyone. He posted a decent game. No QB is safe from having a bad FF game, and the events of tonight don't make me think he's a noteworthy risk in week 15. There will likely only be 3-4 QBs I'd start over him in week 15, and nothing changed today.
Thanks for throwing in all that extra space... it really drove your point home.0000000___0Oh, hey...don't mind me, just counting interceptions.eta: FORGOT to add in tonight's 0.
So you don't think discussing potential weaknesses in Vick's playoff schedule is worthy of a thread?[OT]We should box for it.[/OT]bad fishing attempt.