Mike Vick may be in trouble again (1 Viewer)

[dickey moe]

Furthermore, this is the second time that Vick has been publicly caught with drugs.

Really? I wasn't aware of that. When was the 1st time he was caught with drugs?

The 1st time he was smuggling Valtrex©.

 

[Green and Gold]

Put me in the camp that is annoyed by people who don't like Manning. What's not to like? I don't care that he hasn't won a championship because he's not on my favorite team. I respect how he prepares and the effort he gives. You got to like athletes that are giving you everything they got.Manning is not out there saying he is the greatest. He's a pretty humble guy. I don't see anyone saying he is god's gift to the game either. Most talking heads have been critical of him for years now. The guy may not look cool but he runs the most exciting offense in the league.I think people just hate on him because he gets a lot of attention. That and they think they are cool going against popular opinion. If you think he's phoney I think you're being to cynical. A certain degree of cynicism is healthy but nothing is more insufferable then someone who is overly-cynical.

I don't like his body language when he's losing. He's always berating his teamates when something goes wrong. I hate the exaggerated hands in the air, "where is the penalty" or "why did you let him intercept that poorly thrown ball" whine that he does. It's fine to do it once in awhile, sometimes your teamates deserve it. Manning just has a tendancy to do it consistently when things aren't going well.

 

[Shiver44]

If Vick is benched, because he is beaten out in Camp, because Schaub picks up the offense better. Is Matt Schaub a good option in a keeper league, where I would only have to give up the last round in the draft?

 

[Da Guru]

I have a feeling that Vick may be in for a change of scenery.

The only problem is that he is not tradable with that contract.

 

[Big Score]

I have a feeling that Vick may be in for a change of scenery.

The only problem is that he is not tradable with that contract.

So if he's untradable because of his contract, doesn't that make your "feeling", irrelevant?

 

[Sabertooth]

How could any team serious about winning a championship actually think Vick could help them. I am not naive enough to think that all teams are trying to win a championship, I am sure several owners are just looking at this as a way to make money. But I cannot see any veterans with any amount of character whatsoever listening or following the lead of Vick.

He's a punk.

 

[Boone22]

How could any team serious about winning a championship actually think Vick could help them. I am not naive enough to think that all teams are trying to win a championship, I am sure several owners are just looking at this as a way to make money. But I cannot see any veterans with any amount of character whatsoever listening or following the lead of Vick.

He's a punk.

*cough* Al Davis *cough*

 

[Pygmy Marmoset]

I'm going to absolutely die laughing if somehow T.O., Moss, and Vick end up on the the Raiders. There is no coach in the country who would take that job.

 

[Sabertooth]

I'm going to absolutely die laughing if somehow T.O., Moss, and Vick end up on the the Raiders. There is no coach in the country who would take that job.

Bobby the Brain Heenan might!

 

[ILUVBEER99]

How could any team serious about winning a championship actually think Vick could help them.

Atlanta was a game away from the Superbowl just a couple years ago. I don't see how it's that outlandish to think he could win 2 extra games somwhere down the line.

 

[Bob_Magaw]

I have a feeling that Vick may be in for a change of scenery.

The only problem is that he is not tradable with that contract.

So if he's untradable because of his contract, doesn't that make your "feeling", irrelevant?

what would the cap hit be for the next two years if they traded him?

 

[JohnnyU]

How could any team serious about winning a championship actually think Vick could help them.

Atlanta was a game away from the Superbowl just a couple years ago. I don't see how it's that outlandish to think he could win 2 extra games somwhere down the line.

I'm sure Dan Marino said the same thing, except in his case it was 1 game.

 

[gzilla]

How could any team serious about winning a championship actually think Vick could help them.

Atlanta was a game away from the Superbowl just a couple years ago. I don't see how it's that outlandish to think he could win 2 extra games somwhere down the line.

I'm sure Dan Marino said the same thing, except in his case it was 1 game.

So, you don't think Marino was good enough to win a Super Bowl?

 

[Sabertooth]

I don't think Vick possesses the ability to win a Super Bowl. No leadership ability whatsoever. Unless he's placed into a situation where all he has to do is "not lose" the Super Bowl, he won't win one.

 

[fatness]

Bump.

Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick was not carrying marijuana or another illegal substance at the Miami airport and will be exonerated, league sources told ESPN's Chris Mortensen on Sunday.

On Wednesday, Vick surrendered a water bottle to security at Miami International Airport that authorities believed smelled like marijuana and contained a substance in a hidden compartment. Vick was not arrested and was allowed to board his flight to Atlanta.

When reached by The Associated Press on Sunday, NFL spokesman Greg Aiello wouldn't comment on the report.

Miami police had said it could take weeks to decide whether charges would be filed against Vick, a three-time Pro-Bowler.

A Falcons team source confirmed that the team expects to hear something formal by Monday.

ESPN link

 

[Banger]

Bump.

Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick was not carrying marijuana or another illegal substance at the Miami airport and will be exonerated, league sources told ESPN's Chris Mortensen on Sunday.

On Wednesday, Vick surrendered a water bottle to security at Miami International Airport that authorities believed smelled like marijuana and contained a substance in a hidden compartment. Vick was not arrested and was allowed to board his flight to Atlanta.

When reached by The Associated Press on Sunday, NFL spokesman Greg Aiello wouldn't comment on the report.

Miami police had said it could take weeks to decide whether charges would be filed against Vick, a three-time Pro-Bowler.

A Falcons team source confirmed that the team expects to hear something formal by Monday.

ESPN link

Regardless, Vick was still personally carrying a device that was specifically created to hide pot/drugs onto an airplane. Not sure what his excuse will be for that. Maybe he just picked up the wrong water bottle and then for some reason acted suspiciously and didn't want to turn it over to airport employees. I'm sure it's all a big misunderstanding....

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Regardless of whether charges are successfully pursued there is no explaining away the fact that he had an item designed for concealing substances. An item marketed exclusively to drug users.

 

[fatness]

Regardless of a 3-page thread about Vick being caught with drugs, he didn't have any drugs.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkPke-puxM8

 

[mad sweeney]

Regardless of a 3-page thread about Vick being caught with drugs, he didn't have any drugs.

No, only a device whose sole purpoe is to conceal them. Onterrio Smith wasn't caught cheating on a drug test either, just with the parapernelia to do so. He could still be in trouble with the league for this, as that contraption has only one purpose.

 

[Mark Wimer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkPke-puxM8

Now THAT was funny. I have tears running down my face and my gut hurts. Thanks Pip's Invitation!

 

[Two Deep]

Regardless of a 3-page thread about Vick being caught with drugs, he didn't have any drugs.

Crooked district attorney lining his pockets. (that wouldn't be possible).

 

[fatness]

Regardless of a 3-page thread about Vick being caught with drugs, he didn't have any drugs.

No, only a device whose sole purpoe is to conceal them. Onterrio Smith wasn't caught cheating on a drug test either, just with the parapernelia to do so. He could still be in trouble with the league for this, as that contraption has only one purpose.

Except that the device didn't conceal any drugs. And the device contained water, for drinking, which is an advertised feature of it. I don't think anyone drinks out of a Whizzinator.

 

[fatness]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkPke-puxM8

Funny stuff there. It would be kind of funny if, at the end of it, this was tacked on:

[offscreen voice]: "Psst, he wasn't carrying any weed."

[both news announcers]: "Really?"

[[offscreen voice]: Really.

*silence*

 

[ILUVBEER99]

So in the end Vick does nothing wrong, looks like all the Vick haters have whiffed once again. Better luck next time.

 

[mad sweeney]

Regardless of a 3-page thread about Vick being caught with drugs, he didn't have any drugs.

No, only a device whose sole purpoe is to conceal them. Onterrio Smith wasn't caught cheating on a drug test either, just with the parapernelia to do so. He could still be in trouble with the league for this, as that contraption has only one purpose.

Except that the device didn't conceal any drugs. And the device contained water, for drinking, which is an advertised feature of it. I don't think anyone drinks out of a Whizzinator.

I can have an unused bong with water in it and call it a water bottle. Doesn't change the fact that it's purpose is to smoke pot with. There's no possible good reason to have that doctored water bottle, no matter what spin you want to put on it. And I am not trying to hate on Vick, lthough it was extremely stupid to get into this trouble in the first place. I am merely bringing up a similar circumstance where the league punished a player even though the device hadn't been used or wasn't in use. If he had a concealment bottle, then the league may take action against him.

 

[mozzy84]

So in the end Vick does nothing wrong, looks like all the Vick haters have whiffed once again. Better luck next time.

 

[ILUVBEER99]

I can have an unused bong with water in it and call it a water bottle. Doesn't change the fact that it's purpose is to smoke pot with. There's no possible good reason to have that doctored water bottle, no matter what spin you want to put on it. And I am not trying to hate on Vick, lthough it was extremely stupid to get into this trouble in the first place. I am merely bringing up a similar circumstance where the league punished a player even though the device hadn't been used or wasn't in use. If he had a concealment bottle, then the league may take action against him.

The only reason to have a whizzonator is to fool a drug test.Vick could want a secret compartment for many reasons. To hide jewelry, money, etc. He is a rich guy who has a lot of valuables on him.It could have been to hide herb, but there are so many good reasons he could give as to why he had that bottle that there is slim to 0 chance the league is going to waste time trying to punish him for this incident. Bottom line, he did nothing wrong.Don't worry haters, maybe he'll give someone the clap in the next year and you all can write a 15 page thread on it discussing what a horrible person he is.

 

[mad sweeney]

I can have an unused bong with water in it and call it a water bottle. Doesn't change the fact that it's purpose is to smoke pot with. There's no possible good reason to have that doctored water bottle, no matter what spin you want to put on it. And I am not trying to hate on Vick, lthough it was extremely stupid to get into this trouble in the first place. I am merely bringing up a similar circumstance where the league punished a player even though the device hadn't been used or wasn't in use. If he had a concealment bottle, then the league may take action against him.

The only reason to have a whizzonator is to fool a drug test.Vick could want a secret compartment for many reasons. To hide jewelry, money, etc. He is a rich guy who has a lot of valuables on him.It could have been to hide herb, but there are so many good reasons he could give as to why he had that bottle that there is slim to 0 chance the league is going to waste time trying to punish him for this incident. Bottom line, he did nothing wrong.Don't worry haters, maybe he'll give someone the clap in the next year and you all can write a 15 page thread on it discussing what a horrible person he is.

Seriously? He's gonna put a $10K chain in a water bottle? A couple grand worth of cash or diamonds in a plastic fake water bottle? If that's what it's for, then I could see why he wouldn't want to give it up. But he gave it up, reluctntly, meaning he had no vauables in there. And the thing costs $15, if it's empty who cares, toss it. He may get off but his behavior tips it all off. As much as there are Vick haters, there are Vick enablers. Might just as well say Smith had the whizzinator cuz he was going to an R kelly party, not for drug tests.. There's an alternate use for it. Sure they COULD have been using it for some other purpose, but that's only in lawyer speak abstractions.

 

[#@%&$!?]

Vick could want a secret compartment for many reasons. To hide jewelry, money, etc. He is a rich guy who has a lot of valuables on him.

In a water bottle? So you're saying Vick is a moron.

 

[ILUVBEER99]

Seriously? He's gonna put a $10K chain in a water bottle? A couple grand worth of cash or diamonds in a plastic fake water bottle? If that's what it's for, then I could see why he wouldn't want to give it up. But he gave it up, reluctantly, meaning he had no valuables in there. And the thing costs $15, if it's empty who cares, toss it. He may get off but his behavior tips it all off. As much as there are Vick haters, there are Vick enablers. Might just as well say Smith had the whizzinator cuz he was going to an R kelly party, not for drug tests.. There's an alternate use for it. Sure they COULD have been using it for some other purpose, but that's only in lawyer speak abstractions.

If he got jumped the robbers very likely wouldn't take his water bottle. Very smart place to hide valuables if your a public figure like Mr Vick.The bottom line is that he didn't have valuables or drugs in there, no one knows why he had the bottle, but the possibilities are many and drugs isn't the only one.As much as the media has tried to break him down, Vick has never had a major incident with the law and has never been suspended by the NFL.Vick threads turn into a bash fest for no justifiable reason, which isn't fair to him.

 

[fatness]

So in the end Vick does nothing wrong, looks like all the Vick haters have whiffed once again. Better luck next time.

I'm not sure if it's "Vick hate" so much as "Internet justice" ---- one news report, lots of immediate speculation, a rush to have an opinion and desired outcome, and on to the next rumor. By the time the truth comes out nobody cares, they've already hung someone and gone on to other things. And if they do care, it's often to justify their initial opinion and say the real story doesn't matter.

 

[mr. furley]

a lotta people have a lotta egg on their face

wish the sports outlets would dedicate as much time to the story now that it's been disproven as they did when everyone was hysterical about the potential that he had weed.

kills me. Dan Patrick went on and on and on and on about it for a couple days.... now it's disproven and all we get is a 5-second Duke update between segments.

 

[Daywalker]

Lets cut the BS. He was lucky that no drugs were in it this time.

 

[al_falcons]

I just want to know... WTF was the substance that caused the incident in the first place? This story says,

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2738494

"A police report said the bottle appeared from the outside to contain water but had a compartment behind the label. That compartment contained a "small amount of dark particulate" and an odor consistent with marijuana, the report said. Monday's memo did not say what the material was."

I don't know of any other substances in the world that has an "odor consistent with marijuana"? Do you? Maybe it was chawing tobaccy or something? Will we ever know, or has the NFL put the "no harm, no foul" on the lab report?

 

[mad sweeney]

I just want to know... WTF was the substance that caused the incident in the first place? This story says,

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2738494

"A police report said the bottle appeared from the outside to contain water but had a compartment behind the label. That compartment contained a "small amount of dark particulate" and an odor consistent with marijuana, the report said. Monday's memo did not say what the material was."

I don't know of any other substances in the world that has an "odor consistent with marijuana"? Do you? Maybe it was chawing tobaccy or something? Will we ever know, or has the NFL put the "no harm, no foul" on the lab report?

I would bet money that Falcons and/or Vick lawyers put such a bum rush on the Miami PD that they knew they had no possible way to get a conviction. That's what big money lawyers do. Truth and fact have no place in their world. So rather than face a costly process (whether monetarily or embarassming) they don't press charges. So Mike Vick skates and all the VickLovers get to smear egg in the haters' faces. Say what you want, there's zero legit reason for him to have a secret compartment bottle. Like he's really gonna hide his jewels or cash in something not attached to his body. If you had 10K in a water bottle, would you EVER set it down in an airport? Me, I'd have that valuable #### stashed somewhere safe, instead of dangling out for all to see and maybe knock out of my hand or accidentally throw away or anything. So go ahead and say he had the bottle for legit purposes, but everyone (except idiot Rome) knows what it's for. And high price lawyers make cases go away like they never existed.And as far as no legal trouble, this is a guy who knowingly misrepresented himself and gave at least one woman the gift that keeps on giving, Herpes. Of course, he probably had some legit reason for using an alias and not disclosing his VD, in fact it probably wasn't even herpes, just some other pustulous crotch sores that were his head coaches fault anyways.

 

[fatness]

Richmond Times-Dispatch story

Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick won't face criminal charges after a water bottle was confiscated by security at Miami International Airport last Wednesday.

Lab tests on the bottle, which police said smelled of marijuana and contained a hidden compartment, found no evidence of drugs, according to a memo yesterday by Deisy Rodriguez, an assistant state attorney.

"Based on the lab's findings, the Miami-Dade State Attorney's Office is not filing criminal charges," Rodriguez said in the memo, adding the bottle no longer is considered evidence in an investigation.

Police will not file charges and there will be no disciplinary measures from the NFL or the Falcons.

"If there is no violation of law, there is no basis for discipline," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello told The Associated Press.

Of course some people will believe a report of an "odor consistent with marijuana" more than they'll believe a police lab report.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Lets cut the BS. He was lucky that no drugs were in it this time.

agreed the container probably reeked, but really testing residue is just a waste of police time and effort.

 

[GregR_2]

SNL weighs in on the Michael Vick situation. Really.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjtVnqZCndo