Mike Williams just dropped in dynasty league (1 Viewer)

[JohnnyU]

Is Matt Millen the dumbest piece of s--t ever. First Charles Rogers dropped by the Lions, and Mike Williams barely makes the team, both first rd picks. That kind of drafting usually sets a team back for a decade. My first instinct was to pickup Williams, but then I thought to myself, hell, I don't even want to drop a Josh Brown for him, or Givens, or M Hicks, or Curry, or Balt Def. I can't believe it's come to this.

Edited to say, throw in Harrington (3rd overall) as 3 1st rd busts in just a few years. WOW !!!! That's 3 damn 1st rd picks, one a #2 overall and a #3 overall. Did I say WOW!! What an organization.

 

[JohnnyU]

I just cut Charles Rogers in the same league. I didn't want to cut Hicks, Balt Def, Josh Brown, Curry, or Givens to get down to 24.

only because he was on my team to start with.

Mike was just picked up, so I thought I would mess with the same guy's head by dropping Rogers. My guess he will also pick him up and drop Suggs, Walter, or Garrard.

 

[brakeyawself]

Id pick him up. He's 22.

 

[fsufan]

someone dropped M. Williams in one of my dynasty leagues. I picked him up but then dropped him J. Harrison.

 

[Bri]

Is Matt Millen the dumbest piece of s--t ever. First Charles Rogers dropped by the Lions, and Mike Williams barely makes the team, both first rd picks. That kind of drafting usually sets a team back for a decade. My first instinct was to pickup Williams, but then I thought to myself, hell, I don't even want to drop a Josh Brown for him, or Givens, or M Hicks, or Curry, or Balt Def. I can't believe it's come to this.Edited to say, throw in Harrington (3rd overall) as 3 1st rd busts in just a few years. WOW !!!! That's 3 damn 1st rd picks, one a #2 overall and a #3 overall. Did I say WOW!! What an organization.

With the WRs-This is an odd phenomena with us football fans. Marinelli is smart for getting rid of poor attitudes in building his team and fixing the mess there. The GM is an idiot for ever drafting him, but someone with cujones for drafting him when the drafts took place and "the Lions passing O would be great for a long time". Then we cheer Owens for scoring 2 TDs and Moss for dominating.Harrington played for Mornhinweg too right? I didn't much care for Marty. I don't think 3 coaches in that short time is any good for a young QB and it dramatically impacts his development. Maybe he never was "star worthy" and he'd just have been a decent QB but they messed that up with no continuity. Plus they give up a ton of sacks, then only a few, they can run, then they can't.....no continuity whatsoever.I'm not giving up on Williams or Rogers yet. Both can be had in drafts whenever I want and now I'm in a position to say one will pan out, not both, and I like those odds. Totally different than when they were drafted much higher

 

[Bri]

I just cut Charles Rogers in the same league. I didn't want to cut Hicks, Balt Def, Josh Brown, Curry, or Givens to get down to 24. only because he was on my team to start with.Mike was just picked up, so I thought I would mess with the same guy's head by dropping Rogers. My guess he will also pick him up and drop Suggs, Walter, or Garrard.

What do you think of Suggs in Miami? Suggs in Cleveland seems about as useful as Mike Williams

 

[JohnnyU]

I just cut Charles Rogers in the same league. I didn't want to cut Hicks, Balt Def, Josh Brown, Curry, or Givens to get down to 24. only because he was on my team to start with.Mike was just picked up, so I thought I would mess with the same guy's head by dropping Rogers. My guess he will also pick him up and drop Suggs, Walter, or Garrard.

What do you think of Suggs in Miami? Suggs in Cleveland seems about as useful as Mike Williams

The addition of the current Suggs injuries, along with his disk problems before he was drafted (I believe that is what it was, and some said he shouldn't have been drafted because of it), I just don't see Suggs being rostered in the NFL for very much longer.

 

[PMENFAN]

Williams has too much talent to give up on yet. Coaching, and a pathetic organization cannot be underrated with impressionable young men. One bust, you blame the guy. All busts, you've got to start looking at the guy running the show, and I've seen nothing from the guy piloting the ship that merits him the right to continue in the job. He hasn't made a good hire at any position in the organization. They haven't developed a player that has outperformed. Every player underperforms their ability. Every player regresses from their initial performance. That's poor management by any measure, and I cannot understand how Millen still has the job.

For the record, Harrington appears to be on a better path in the limited action I've seen in Miami. These are all young guys. Rogers has caught a couple of bad breaks, and the psyche of a young 20 man is fragile, and too often underrated. The mental management of guys like Marv Lewis, Bill Parcells, Bill Belichick, Tom Caughlin, Bill cowher, Jimmy Johnson and the like, and the discipline they demand of these young men is so underrated. Yes, a great football mind is needed, but so are management skills. You have to develop the talent, but you have to develop the man. I can't remember who said it, or the exact verbage, but it's helped me in developing my people. If you treat a man as he is, he will remain the same. But, if you treat him as you expect him to be, only then will he will reach his potential. I heard if from Jimmy Johnson at one point, but not sure if he was the originator. I think this lack of leadership in Detriot is the reason for the repeated falure of picks in Detroit, not the lack of the quality of the picks. Nobody can dispute the talent of a Mike Williams. Harrington was quasionable that high. Rogers was also unquestionable. Williams would have gone even higher if he had gotten into the draft the year before, and not sat out a year. He got jobbed, and that's why he fell to where he did. You can question the logic of taking pick after pick at WR (idiocy) but the talent level was there, and they were justifiable picks at the spot. But the picks didn't fit the need in Detriot, year after year.

 

[zamboni]

Id pick him up. He's 22.

Who knows if this guy will ever develop the right attitude to succeed, but he's got tons of talent.

 

[brakeyawself]

Id pick him up. He's 22.

Who knows if this guy will ever develop the right attitude to succeed, but he's got tons of talent.

Yea. From what Ive been understanding by reading posts on here and some news reports is the following:This is my take.The only reason BWM isnt starting next to Roy, is the coaches want him to grow up and are waiting for his ego to stop controlling him. What I mean by this is there were reports that Mike Williams thinks that he automatically deserves a shot at starting because of who he is, and how high a draft pick he was. This affects his work ethic. I think the coaching staff will bite the bullet just to change his attitude. I dont think it has anything to do with his weight or mental capacity, or reading the playbook or any other possible excuse. Mike Williams is possibly the most talented receiver on that team. I know, everyone loves Roy, but Mikes skills are DIFFERENT IMHO, not necceserily WORSE. Reguardless. He is at least the second best receiver on that team. And would be an amazing red zone target.The coaches just really want him to grow up. So he's 22. Lots of us (people) are pricks when we are 22. Some grow up. Some dont. Shoot. TO has a good work ethic. But he's still a #####. The same can be said for Moss IMHO and a few other players around the league. If they had that attitude with a bad work ethic, would they be starting? Even as talented as they were when they came in this league?

 

[Revo]

I just cut Charles Rogers in the same league. I didn't want to cut Hicks, Balt Def, Josh Brown, Curry, or Givens to get down to 24. only because he was on my team to start with.Mike was just picked up, so I thought I would mess with the same guy's head by dropping Rogers. My guess he will also pick him up and drop Suggs, Walter, or Garrard.

meanwhile, not a single team put in a claim on Charles Rogers. How does a guy go from #2 overall to no one wanting to touch him in 3 years?

 

[zamboni]

I just cut Charles Rogers in the same league. I didn't want to cut Hicks, Balt Def, Josh Brown, Curry, or Givens to get down to 24. only because he was on my team to start with.Mike was just picked up, so I thought I would mess with the same guy's head by dropping Rogers. My guess he will also pick him up and drop Suggs, Walter, or Garrard.

meanwhile, not a single team put in a claim on Charles Rogers. How does a guy go from #2 overall to no one wanting to touch him in 3 years?

When a guy is one toke away from a year-long suspension, that will scare off a number of teams.

 

[Anonymous Internet User]

I just cut Charles Rogers in the same league. I didn't want to cut Hicks, Balt Def, Josh Brown, Curry, or Givens to get down to 24. only because he was on my team to start with.Mike was just picked up, so I thought I would mess with the same guy's head by dropping Rogers. My guess he will also pick him up and drop Suggs, Walter, or Garrard.

meanwhile, not a single team put in a claim on Charles Rogers. How does a guy go from #2 overall to no one wanting to touch him in 3 years?

When a guy is one toke away from a year-long suspension, that will scare off a number of teams.

it wouldn't cost the Vikings much to sign him ... and he's WAY better than Pinky

 

[Spartans346]

I have him on my 53 man roster. He is number 53. If I wasn't a Michigan State fan he would have been gone by now. Someone is going to give him a shot ..............eventually. If not, he can play on my flag football team (with Clarett when he gets out of jail)

 

[blenderfrog]

Is Matt Millen the dumbest piece of s--t ever. First Charles Rogers dropped by the Lions, and Mike Williams barely makes the team, both first rd picks. That kind of drafting usually sets a team back for a decade. My first instinct was to pickup Williams, but then I thought to myself, hell, I don't even want to drop a Josh Brown for him, or Givens, or M Hicks, or Curry, or Balt Def. I can't believe it's come to this.Edited to say, throw in Harrington (3rd overall) as 3 1st rd busts in just a few years. WOW !!!! That's 3 damn 1st rd picks, one a #2 overall and a #3 overall. Did I say WOW!! What an organization.

Is this the same league that someone dropped Jamal Lewis in yesterday?

 

[JohnnyU]

MLive.com believes Mike Williams is unlikely to be a Lion in 2007.

He might be even less likely to have fantasy value this season. Williams' cap hit was too much to cut this offseason but the paper reports he may be losing interest in football. Williams is currently Detroit's No. 6 receiver.

Source: MLive.com

 

[zamboni]

Williams is currently Detroit's No. 6 receiver.

I guess the No. 7 guy must be really pissed.