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No problem. I've stated my thoughts on him 'round these parts a number of times. I'm not ripping the guy here. I'm just not as high on him as others. I'm just a guy who's a Hawkeye season ticket holder. I love Chad Greenway. I think he's going to be a good pro. I hope he becomes a 12-time Pro Bowler. I just don't think he will, that's all. Good, not great.

The Vikings needed a LB and he was the best available. Can't argue too much with that logic.
Oooo. You're a good guy to ask then. WHat would you think if they got Hodge in the 2nd?
I think Hodge is better suited for the pro game than Greenway is. It's hard to compare since they play different positions...but Greenway relied a lot on his speed in college. That worked fine in the Big Ten. But he won't be have a speed advantage on anybody at the pro level. He'll have to contend with more blockers head on and won't be as quick chasing down things from the backside. This was the biggest part of his game. He could avoid blockers and disrupt things by running free and using his instincts. Hodge is more of a blue collar, stick your nose in there and hit somebody in the mouth guy. He's more physcial and a much better run stuffer. He doesn't rely on natural abilities (though he is well built) as much as he relies on determination and fearlessness. They complimented each other very, very well and the pairing could work in the pros as well.Hodge in the 2nd is better value than Greenway at 17 in my opinion.
And an even better value in the 3rd. :pickle:
for whom, not the vikes.
f'k, drafted by the cheeseheads. I want to puke.
 
for sake of argument any one ( besides apparently the TOA) believe we could not have got T. Jackson with the 83rd pick?

if so we actually outdid

moss= twilliamson + nharris

culpeper = r cook

with

nate burleson = 0 or .5 TJackson take your pick

 
I'm gonna try to be positive about Cook and Tarvaris. I think we reached for these guys, but I also remember being somewhat whacked out about Kevin Williams when we drafted him (although we had issues turning our pick in on time that year.) He was rated lower on all mock drafts but turned out to be a player.

Who am I to judge? I wish I did drafts for a living. It would be a good gig.

I went to Bob Lurtsema's Viking Update freebie board and had to laugh at all the doomspeak over there. FBGs is so much more level headed about things. People are hot & bothered. Read at your own risk. Posting = fighting at this point.

 
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No problem. I've stated my thoughts on him 'round these parts a number of times. I'm not ripping the guy here. I'm just not as high on him as others. I'm just a guy who's a Hawkeye season ticket holder. I love Chad Greenway. I think he's going to be a good pro. I hope he becomes a 12-time Pro Bowler. I just don't think he will, that's all. Good, not great.

The Vikings needed a LB and he was the best available. Can't argue too much with that logic.
Oooo. You're a good guy to ask then. WHat would you think if they got Hodge in the 2nd?
I think Hodge is better suited for the pro game than Greenway is. It's hard to compare since they play different positions...but Greenway relied a lot on his speed in college. That worked fine in the Big Ten. But he won't be have a speed advantage on anybody at the pro level. He'll have to contend with more blockers head on and won't be as quick chasing down things from the backside. This was the biggest part of his game. He could avoid blockers and disrupt things by running free and using his instincts. Hodge is more of a blue collar, stick your nose in there and hit somebody in the mouth guy. He's more physcial and a much better run stuffer. He doesn't rely on natural abilities (though he is well built) as much as he relies on determination and fearlessness. They complimented each other very, very well and the pairing could work in the pros as well.Hodge in the 2nd is better value than Greenway at 17 in my opinion.
And an even better value in the 3rd. :pickle:
for whom, not the vikes.
f'k, drafted by the cheeseheads. I want to puke.
Hodge would have been a great pick for the Vikes at the end of Round 2. Certainly more valuable than some QB project.
 
I'm gonna try to be positive about Cook and Tarvaris. I think we reached for these guys, but I also remember being somewhat whacked out about Kevin Williams when we drafted him (although we had issues turning our pick in on time that year.) He was rated lower on all mock drafts but turned out to be a player.

Who am I to judge? I wish I did drafts for a living. It would be a good gig.

I went to Bob Lurtsema's Viking Update freebie board and had to laugh at all the doomspeak over there. FBGs is so much more level headed about things. People are hot & bothered. Read at your own risk. Posting = fighting at this point.
I won't argue with you, but the difference is that Kevin Williams was always considered to be a mid to high 1st rounder. Drafting a center in the 2nd is insane, and trading both of your 3rd rounders for a QB who's considered to be a a second day pick simply makes no sense.I get the feeling that Denny Green is back, wearing a moustache and sporting a bald head.

Nice start by the triangle...wonder if Fran Foley can whip up a better resume for the new Vikes?

 
I missed the second and third rounds. When I saw the list of players, I just kept shaking my head. Now to find out that we passed on Clemens and got an Alabama State project for our QB of the future disappoints me greatly. I wonder how much influence Scott Studwell had in this? I have been very happy since he has been the College football guy. I wonder if Fran and Childress vetoed him at points, because this does not seem like a Studwell draft.

 
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This is why I hate people who will say their team had a good draft or a bad draft. Just because the 4-5 websites you read and the 2-3 mags that you bought don't have players ranked as high as the Vikings or any other team had, why are you jumping off the band-wagon now? Sure I'm concerned about what we didn't do at the QB position (as in Schaub or Croyles), but I'm not going to second guess what they did on Saturday....at least not yet. Griffin, the solid play-maker and the huge OL, Cook fill needs. As for this kid the QB, ahhhh let's see him in 16 months and see if he's proven worthy of this pick. What I considered now is if Brad goes down, we're done for sure now. MM isn't worthy of being an NFL player and the kid isn't ready.

 
This is why I hate people who will say their team had a good draft or a bad draft. Just because the 4-5 websites you read and the 2-3 mags that you bought don't have players ranked as high as the Vikings or any other team had, why are you jumping off the band-wagon now? Sure I'm concerned about what we didn't do at the QB position (as in Schaub or Croyles), but I'm not going to second guess what they did on Saturday....at least not yet. Griffin, the solid play-maker and the huge OL, Cook fill needs. As for this kid the QB, ahhhh let's see him in 16 months and see if he's proven worthy of this pick. What I considered now is if Brad goes down, we're done for sure now. MM isn't worthy of being an NFL player and the kid isn't ready.
How about the fact that the Vikes traded away both of their 3rd rounders for a QB prospect that likely would have been there in round 5 or later? Regardless of how the players pan out, they basically gave away two 3rd round picks. :bag:

 
This is why I hate people who will say their team had a good draft or a bad draft.  Just because the 4-5 websites you read and the 2-3 mags that you bought don't have players ranked as high as the Vikings or any other team had, why are you jumping off the band-wagon now?  Sure I'm concerned about what we didn't do at the QB position (as in Schaub or Croyles), but I'm not going to second guess what they did on Saturday....at least not yet.  Griffin, the solid play-maker and the huge OL, Cook fill needs.  As for this kid the QB, ahhhh let's see him in 16 months and see if he's proven worthy of this pick.  What I considered now is if Brad goes down, we're done for sure now.  MM isn't worthy of being an NFL player and the kid isn't ready.
How about the fact that the Vikes traded away both of their 3rd rounders for a QB prospect that likely would have been there in round 5 or later? Regardless of how the players pan out, they basically gave away two 3rd round picks. :bag:
You're assuming AGAIN.
 
I'm gonna try to be positive about Cook and Tarvaris. I think we reached for these guys, but I also remember being somewhat whacked out about Kevin Williams when we drafted him (although we had issues turning our pick in on time that year.) He was rated lower on all mock drafts but turned out to be a player.

Who am I to judge? I wish I did drafts for a living. It would be a good gig.

I went to Bob Lurtsema's Viking Update freebie board and had to laugh at all the doomspeak over there. FBGs is so much more level headed about things. People are hot & bothered. Read at your own risk. Posting = fighting at this point.
Yeah, the Purple Thoughts board is generally a mess. Easily the most popular Vikings board out there. At one point during the draft there were 1100 people on the board. But someone on there made a great point, there might be over a 1000 people there, but about 15 posters who just constantly posting negative crap. I've been a regular on that board for awhile and most of the good posters are eventually driven off the board by the negative minority that posts the most. An example of this was after the Greenway pick, the board seemed to be divide right down the middle on it being a great/terrible pick. Someone made a poll to grade the pick and about 85% of the board gave them an A or B for the pick. Never go there while a game is being played.
 
Here are my thoughts on the Vikings draft. I really like the players the Vikings drafted, but not really where they were drafted. But honestly, does it matter where they were drafted once they get on the field?

1st round pick: LB Chad Greenway

I really like this pick. Seems like a perfect player for the Tampa-2 defense. Good in coverage and generally is where he should be, exactly what you need at the OLB position in the Tampa 2.

And the rest:

CB Cedric Griffin

Another good pick IMO because he fits the defense. One of the main things positives about him was that he would be a great fit in a Cover 2 defense. I don't view this as a reach at all.

C Ryan Cook

A reach? Yeah. Bad prospect? No way. He is listed as a center, but he could project as an OG or OT. With the injury history and uncertain long term future of Birk, he could eventually replace him or fight for starting spots at both RG and RT. Plus I read somewhere that going into his senior year, Kiper had him pegged as the top senior center in the nation.

QB Tavaris Jackson

Don't know much about him. I liked the highlights that I've seen, but it's just a pick you have to wait and see about. I trust the Vikings and their scouts. According to Foley, he was the 4th QB on the Vikings' draft board, so who knows. I would have liked someone who was more NFL ready because I don't think Brad has much left.

Overall I'd give them a C+ for the day. Declaring someone to be a reach is a personal opinion at this point. Essentially when a draft expert calls someone a reach, they are saying 'you disagree with my projection of this player, but I'm right and you're wrong'. The true measure of a player being a 'reach' is usually never known. It's not where the 'draft experts' project a player to go, but where the other teams have the players projected to go.

Let's use Jackson as an example. I've seen him projected all over the place from 3rd-4th to undrafted free agent. But the Vikings say that he was fourth in their QB rankings. Would he have been around later? Draft projections say yes, but is there any way of really knowing? All it takes is for one other team to rank Jackson as highly as the Vikings did. If they view him as their guy, you can't just sit back and hope that the other NFL teams follow the projections of the 'draft experts'. You can getting a pretty good gage of who is a reach in the 1st round because the top of a team's draft board is often known by these experts with inside sources. But even as early as the 2nd round, you don't know what players were reaches until they suit up and play.

You certainly can call me a homer for believing that, but I do have confidence in the Vikings' front office and scouts. They are paid to make evaluations of players, I'm not.

 
C Ryan Cook

A reach? Yeah. Bad prospect? No way. He is listed as a center, but he could project as an OG or OT. With the injury history and uncertain long term future of Birk, he could eventually replace him or fight for starting spots at both RG and RT. Plus I read somewhere that going into his senior year, Kiper had him pegged as the top senior center in the nation.
Birk has had two surgery's for hernias. He claims to be back to 100%, but why would you want to take a chance like last year and have him go down in the first couple weeks and scramble to reorganize the OL?I think getting a MASSIVE Center here, although maybe a reach by some "experts" was a good move to do what is needed to protect Brad.

Since they didn't sign a Free agent QB that could start, or is even worthy of holding a clipboard, they need to do everything they can to keep Brad alive.

My guess, and HOPE, is that the Vikings have free agent QB in their sights for next year which is why they didn't move up in the first round to get someone this season.

But, if Brad goes down. :bye: :bye: to even a .500 season.

 
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Here are my thoughts on the Vikings draft. I really like the players the Vikings drafted, but not really where they were drafted. But honestly, does it matter where they were drafted once they get on the field?

1st round pick: LB Chad Greenway

I really like this pick. Seems like a perfect player for the Tampa-2 defense. Good in coverage and generally is where he should be, exactly what you need at the OLB position in the Tampa 2.

And the rest:

CB Cedric Griffin

Another good pick IMO because he fits the defense. One of the main things positives about him was that he would be a great fit in a Cover 2 defense. I don't view this as a reach at all.

C Ryan Cook

A reach? Yeah. Bad prospect? No way. He is listed as a center, but he could project as an OG or OT. With the injury history and uncertain long term future of Birk, he could eventually replace him or fight for starting spots at both RG and RT. Plus I read somewhere that going into his senior year, Kiper had him pegged as the top senior center in the nation.

QB Tavaris Jackson

Don't know much about him. I liked the highlights that I've seen, but it's just a pick you have to wait and see about. I trust the Vikings and their scouts. According to Foley, he was the 4th QB on the Vikings' draft board, so who knows. I would have liked someone who was more NFL ready because I don't think Brad has much left.

Overall I'd give them a C+ for the day. Declaring someone to be a reach is a personal opinion at this point. Essentially when a draft expert calls someone a reach, they are saying 'you disagree with my projection of this player, but I'm right and you're wrong'. The true measure of a player being a 'reach' is usually never known. It's not where the 'draft experts' project a player to go, but where the other teams have the players projected to go.

Let's use Jackson as an example. I've seen him projected all over the place from 3rd-4th to undrafted free agent. But the Vikings say that he was fourth in their QB rankings. Would he have been around later? Draft projections say yes, but is there any way of really knowing? All it takes is for one other team to rank Jackson as highly as the Vikings did. If they view him as their guy, you can't just sit back and hope that the other NFL teams follow the projections of the 'draft experts'. You can getting a pretty good gage of who is a reach in the 1st round because the top of a team's draft board is often known by these experts with inside sources. But even as early as the 2nd round, you don't know what players were reaches until they suit up and play.

You certainly can call me a homer for believing that, but I do have confidence in the Vikings' front office and scouts. They are paid to make evaluations of players, I'm not.
:goodposting: overall, but especially the bolded part. If you have Jackson ahead of the other guys who all had injury concerns, then another team had him there as well. You go get the guy you need/want, and obviously, Jackson was that guy. Sure you can second guess it forever but if they wanted Clemens, Whitehurst, or Croyle they would have taken them in the 2nd, and all but Croyle were gone by the time they picked in the third, so they got their highest rated QB (after the big three) and didn't have to use one of their top two 2nd rounders to get him, I think that is how you have to look at it.
 
My inititial reaction was :mellow: , there was not a lot of flash and the Vikings took players at substance postions (LB, OL, DB) that I was not all that familiar with.

Chad Greenway - He was not the guy I really wanted the Vikings to take, I was hoping for Ernie Sims, Jay Cutler or Matt Lienart. However, Green way is a very talented linebacker, a grounded individual (usually spent Spring Break going back to the farm to work instead of Ft. Lauderdale - Pioneer Planet).

- The Vikings' pass defense from the linebacking core has been non-existent for a few seasons now. All things aside, this is something Greenway has excelled at and will immediately benefit the Vikings. I would like to see him get a little stronger and he will have to improve at the point of attack against NFL running games. Given his background and history, I truly believe Greenway will fulfill his potential.

Cedric Griffin - After reading the reports and review, this is really a great pick for the Vikings. If he gets to camp on time, he should be the Vikings' starting nickel back in their cover-2 defense. Has the size and the strenght to play in the slot and is apparently a smart player. I surmize he must be pretty smart to have excelled so much at Texas given his 4.5 speed at cornerback. Also seems very versatile and could play safety.

Ryan Cook - Has tremendous size and I love his background from New Mexico. As hinezer mentioned, he could play center, guard or tackle and offers the Vikings' some solid depth up and down the line. My first reaction was one of dissapointment but the kid appears to be a solid prospect.

Matt Birk says he is 100%, but his track record has become very questionable. This forces the Vikings' hand to at least have a legit plan B, I think Cook provides this.

Tavaris Jackson - After the big 3 (Young, Lienart and Cutler), all the remaining quarterbacks can be summed up as 80% potential, 20% substance so I really could have supported the Vikings in any direction. Having said that, two #3 picks for the last pick in the 2nd round, the Vikings overpayed.

For whatever reason, the Vikings appeared to be very high on this prospect. Time will tell.

In conclussion - What I like most about the new regime is Zygi has increased the coaching staff (from 14 to 21) and paid the money to get some great teachers in the organization. Having said that, I can understand and appreciate this draft much more from a Viking perspective. They grabbed 4 high-character guys that have some great physical attributes and appear willing to learn and very coachable.

If you want to talk grading a draft, a C+ seems about right. But the alignment of the type of players taken and the direction the Vikings are going, I could give them a solid B, maybe B+. I think all four of these guys will be on the roster in 3 years and in all liklihood starting.

 
Chester Taylor may be in a good situation now:

1) O.Smith is gone, correct?

2) Mewelde Moore appears to be fragile and unreliable, anyone have any insight on how much work he may get this season?

3) Fason did not have a very good rookie campaign. Will he be the short yardage guy, though?

4) I read that Moe Willimas retired, but may still come back. Any update on his status?

5) No RB drafted yesterday, will they add one today?

Right now, it looks more and more like Taylor could be the primary RB in Minnesota. Any additional insight would be appreciated.

 
As far as today goes, I hope (of course I don't KNOW anything) we go this way:

1. Safety: I love Offord but the DUI thing is a bit of a problem, and although Tank is a great pickup, the depth wouldn't hurt as far as a ST player. I've heard Griffin could also play safety so then they could look at another corner. Zematis, Bing (who must not be as good as FBG think), Simpson, or Will Blackmon (returner).

2. Guard/Tackle: Never hurts to have depth on the line.

3. WR: A good WR who can play some special teams would be nice, unless Hoag can be that guy.

4. ILB: I really like Rod Davis, and I know the other guys that we have are OLB that my move inside, but it wouldn't hurt to pick one up.

5. Punter? I know they brought in the Illinois guy (Weatherford), but I don't know about drafting the position.

 
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I'm putting it out there right now. Chester Taylor is not going to do it.

They just shortchanged themselves huge. Another year of mediocrity. :(

 
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I'm putting it out there right now. Chester Taylor is not going to do it.

They just shortchanged themselves huge. Another year of mediocrity. :(
I'm not sure why you think that about Taylor. Sure he hasn't been an every down back but not because of his own doing. He was behind a pretty good back so at worst you could say he is unknown, but all he did was produce when he was on the field.
 
Knowing that hindsight is 20-20 and a wonderful thing, I am not going to trash the Vikings picks too much.

I think Greenway was a solid and predictable pick at 17. He has all the physical skills, charactor, and work ethics that the Vikings were looking for in their 1st round pick.

This is just speculation on my part, but I believe the Vikings plan for round 2 were Griffin and Clemens. When the Jets moved up and took Clemens it left the Vikes in a panic mode and they selected Cook a round or two early. By the end of round 2 they were worried that they would lose out on a QB they wanted by their pick (83) in round 3.

Think how different the day could have looked if they had selected Clemens with #48. Griffn would likely still be there at #51, or Abdul Hodge would have been a nice pick at #51.

Griffin or Youboty might very well have been available at #83 and Cook most likely at #95.

Again this is speculation, but the folloing picks would have left me feeling really good about their first day:

17 - Greenway

48 - Clemens

51 - Hodge

83 - Griffin or Youboty

95 - Cook

 
Knowing that hindsight is 20-20 and a wonderful thing, I am not going to trash the Vikings picks too much.

I think Greenway was a solid and predictable pick at 17. He has all the physical skills, charactor, and work ethics that the Vikings were looking for in their 1st round pick.

This is just speculation on my part, but I believe the Vikings plan for round 2 were Griffin and Clemens. When the Jets moved up and took Clemens it left the Vikes in a panic mode and they selected Cook a round or two early. By the end of round 2 they were worried that they would lose out on a QB they wanted by their pick (83) in round 3.

Think how different the day could have looked if they had selected Clemens with #48. Griffn would likely still be there at #51, or Abdul Hodge would have been a nice pick at #51.

Griffin or Youboty might very well have been available at #83 and Cook most likely at #95.

Again this is speculation, but the folloing picks would have left me feeling really good about their first day:

17 - Greenway

48 - Clemens

51 - Hodge

83 - Griffin or Youboty

95 - Cook
Clemens and Hodge were both there at those picks and they didn't take them, obviously they didn't want them. I think they put a little more time into it than we do, so I will go with their picks. :rolleyes:
 
LOVE the trade for Artis Hicks!! Move down a couple spots and give up a 6th!! Childress has to know the guy so I say it is a great move for the team. :thumbup:

 
Let's use Jackson as an example. I've seen him projected all over the place from 3rd-4th to undrafted free agent. But the Vikings say that he was fourth in their QB rankings. Would he have been around later? Draft projections say yes, but is there any way of really knowing? All it takes is for one other team to rank Jackson as highly as the Vikings did. If they view him as their guy, you can't just sit back and hope that the other NFL teams follow the projections of the 'draft experts'. You can getting a pretty good gage of who is a reach in the 1st round because the top of a team's draft board is often known by these experts with inside sources. But even as early as the 2nd round, you don't know what players were reaches until they suit up and play.

You certainly can call me a homer for believing that, but I do have confidence in the Vikings' front office and scouts. They are paid to make evaluations of players, I'm not.
I saw an interview with Jackson last night and he was shocked that he got drafted that high. He said that when the call came, his mom answered the phone and didn't know who it was. He then got a feeling that it might be about the draft. Sorry, but I refuse to believe that anyone was remotely interested in this kid.

 
Let's use Jackson as an example.  I've seen him projected all over the place from 3rd-4th to undrafted free agent.  But the Vikings say that he was fourth in their QB rankings.  Would he have been around later?  Draft projections say yes, but is there any way of really knowing?  All it takes is for one other team to rank Jackson as highly as the Vikings did.  If they view him as their guy, you can't just sit back and hope that the other NFL teams follow the projections of the 'draft experts'.  You can getting a pretty good gage of who is a reach in the 1st round because the top of a team's draft board is often known by these experts with inside sources.  But even as early as the 2nd round, you don't know what players were reaches until they suit up and play.

You certainly can call me a homer for believing that, but I do have confidence in the Vikings' front office and scouts.  They are paid to make evaluations of players, I'm not.
I saw an interview with Jackson last night and he was shocked that he got drafted that high. He said that when the call came, his mom answered the phone and didn't know who it was. He then got a feeling that it might be about the draft. Sorry, but I refuse to believe that anyone was remotely interested in this kid.
Well there were other teams interested him. LinkNo doubt he was a reach but now that he is on the team, I hope he is the next Warren Moon.

 
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Let's use Jackson as an example. I've seen him projected all over the place from 3rd-4th to undrafted free agent. But the Vikings say that he was fourth in their QB rankings. Would he have been around later? Draft projections say yes, but is there any way of really knowing? All it takes is for one other team to rank Jackson as highly as the Vikings did. If they view him as their guy, you can't just sit back and hope that the other NFL teams follow the projections of the 'draft experts'. You can getting a pretty good gage of who is a reach in the 1st round because the top of a team's draft board is often known by these experts with inside sources. But even as early as the 2nd round, you don't know what players were reaches until they suit up and play.

You certainly can call me a homer for believing that, but I do have confidence in the Vikings' front office and scouts. They are paid to make evaluations of players, I'm not.
I saw an interview with Jackson last night and he was shocked that he got drafted that high. He said that when the call came, his mom answered the phone and didn't know who it was. He then got a feeling that it might be about the draft. Sorry, but I refuse to believe that anyone was remotely interested in this kid.
Well there were other teams interested him. LinkNo doubt he was a reach but now that he is on the team, I hope he is the next Warren Moon.
Here's the key quote from the article you linked...his College coach.
"From talking to these (coaches), they like what they're seeing," Coe said. "I think right now that he's second-day, probably a fourth-round guy. I don't know how much he can move up from there because of the talent above him. I don't think he could slip much farther than that, though."
BTW, please don't believe a word that Fran Foley says...he's not an assumed liar, he's a proven liar. And that's about the only thing that clown is proven at...
 
Let's use Jackson as an example. I've seen him projected all over the place from 3rd-4th to undrafted free agent. But the Vikings say that he was fourth in their QB rankings. Would he have been around later? Draft projections say yes, but is there any way of really knowing? All it takes is for one other team to rank Jackson as highly as the Vikings did. If they view him as their guy, you can't just sit back and hope that the other NFL teams follow the projections of the 'draft experts'. You can getting a pretty good gage of who is a reach in the 1st round because the top of a team's draft board is often known by these experts with inside sources. But even as early as the 2nd round, you don't know what players were reaches until they suit up and play.

You certainly can call me a homer for believing that, but I do have confidence in the Vikings' front office and scouts. They are paid to make evaluations of players, I'm not.
I saw an interview with Jackson last night and he was shocked that he got drafted that high. He said that when the call came, his mom answered the phone and didn't know who it was. He then got a feeling that it might be about the draft. Sorry, but I refuse to believe that anyone was remotely interested in this kid.
Well there were other teams interested him. LinkNo doubt he was a reach but now that he is on the team, I hope he is the next Warren Moon.
Nice link, good article. Not a lot of substance from the home-town paper other than being very vocal that a variety of teams checked him out and have returned for individual workouts.Clearly there is something there and I am getting excited about him being the starting quarterback, in maybe three years.

 
That's a pretty nice pair of day two picks. If they can motivate Edwards and coach up Blue a bit, they got themselves at least some good situational players if not starters.

 
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FBG continues to draw people who know their shide about the game, without any pissing contests.

Particularly impressed with Blue Onion, Hinezer, Andy Dufresne, and Preacher1 to my queries/worries.

Thanks people.

I was worried about 2 3rds for D-Jack, and although I live on my own planet, I'm sure the sky is not falling, and I am really looking forward to the upcoming years with this regime. Time will tell.

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Ray Edwards

Pick 127, Ray Edwards.  DE from Purdue (junior).

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Blue Onion - What is your feeling on Ray Edwards? Never noticed him in Big 10 play, yet his "lack of motivation" may be nipped in the bud by a defensive coordinator whom seems likely to get out the red hot poker. Tomlin's pet project? Nice sleeper, or are you being a sarcastic cyanotic rutabaga?

:P

Seriously, what's your take?

 
I LOVE what the Vikings ended up doing overall in the draft.

1. Greenway - SOLID

2. Griffin - Doesn't have good "measurables" but just performed for a top caliber defense.

3. Cook - Maybe a little early but has the skills and versatility.

4. Jackson - LOVE this pick!! The guy has a rocket arm - hello Koren and Troy and can be groomed to take over in a couple years.

5. Edwards - Light a fire under him and he is better than Johnstone as a situational guy.

6. Blue - Big time safety from a big time program. Solid late pick.

7. Hicks - Get an instant starter for a sixth rounder...plus versatile and knows the offense...pure genius here!!

8. Taureen Henderson - great fit for the offense as a third down guy.

9. Hank Baskett - Would have loved the guy in round 4, get him as an UDFA!! WOW.

Ok, homerism abounds, but I do like what they did. They didn't just sit tight and take the "names" that fell to them like some teams did. They were active and got the guys they wanted!! That is what impressed me. :thumbup:

 
I still think they could have gotten both Cook and Jackson in the third. I doubt any other team was looking at drafting those guys that high.

That means they could have had an extra 2nd round talent on the roster. In the scenario they were under during the draft, that could have meant Abdul Hodge, who went to the Packers instead.

Regardless, they seemed to get exactly who THEY wanted, so now it's time to see if they know how to coach! :popcorn:

 
Ray Edwards

Pick 127, Ray Edwards.  DE from Purdue (junior).

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Blue Onion - What is your feeling on Ray Edwards? Never noticed him in Big 10 play, yet his "lack of motivation" may be nipped in the bud by a defensive coordinator whom seems likely to get out the red hot poker. Tomlin's pet project? Nice sleeper, or are you being a sarcastic cyanotic rutabaga?

:P

Seriously, what's your take?

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Very little, or else I would have commented above. He apparently has the physical tools and built to play the position, although I felt pretty good about our depth at the position already (James, Udeze, Scott). Apparently he had a falling out with the Purdue coaches (red flag) and was benched mid-season last year. For an immature player this could be a wake-up call or a sign of things to come. Given he went in the 4th round and is hardly assured of a career, I think he could be hungry. Apparently he grew up (literally) very hungry.Plus, I finally like our defensive line coach. He has a lot of upside, which is all you can ask for from a 2nd day pick.

 
Tarvaris Jackson - I really like the selection. Been doing as much catch-up reading on him as I can and he seems like he has all the physical and mental ability to play the position. Will be very excited to see his first snap in the preseason. As high as I was on Culpepper, his first few snaps in [rookie] preseason were pretty poor, I actually think he fumbled his first snap.
 
They didn't just sit tight and take the "names" that fell to them like some teams did. They were active and got the guys they wanted!! That is what impressed me.  :thumbup:

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I agree with this. I think the Vikes really did their homework on these players and took what they needed.
 
One thing I liked(whether it pans out or not we will need to wait and see), is that they drafted players they felt they needed and wanted to go after.

Better than the old Denny regime of drafting the best player on the board and ignoring needs.

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:bag: I see someone else posted what I was thinking.. That's what I get for being to lazy to read through all 3 pages. :bag:

 
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They didn't just sit tight and take the "names" that fell to them like some teams did. They were active and got the guys they wanted!! That is what impressed me.  :thumbup:

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I agree with this. I think the Vikes really did their homework on these players and took what they needed.
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The more I look into the guys the Vikings drafted, they certainly valued character guys. Not just in the scope of 'staying out of trouble', but real down-to-Earth players who already established a real professional approach to the game as far as a willingness to learn (coachability). If I had to describe the Vikings draft, I would say it was very 'Belichick' like.Certainly a lot of the Viking draft picks are more potential than substance at this point, but when I look at guys like Greenway, Cook, Griffin and Jackson, I don't have a lot of reservations in what my expectations are for these players. I feel really good about all of their potential development.

 
Vikes are gonna love C Taylor this year. I've watched him since he was drafted and he always impressed me. He simply knows how to run, catch, and block. He may not bust off many 80 yard TDs, but he will get you 4 and 5 yards when it looks like nothings there. I wish we'd have kept him.

 
Vikes are gonna love C Taylor this year.  I've watched him since he was drafted and he always impressed me.  He simply knows how to run, catch, and block.  He may not bust off many 80 yard TDs, but he will get you 4 and 5 yards when it looks like nothings there.  I wish we'd have kept him.

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I hope (and actually do think) you're right. Passing on DeAngelo Williams was a disappointment to me.
 
Tough to be real high on a 5th round pick but I think I like Greg Blue. Special teams demon and maybe a LB/S hybrid sort of guy if he develops. Tomlin seems like the right coach for him to play for.

 
This is gonna sound bad but i was just looking at the Vikes website and if you look below # 26's left hand on the main page I think the webmasters in Minneaoplis may want to review this.

If this has already been talked about MY BAD!!!

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This is gonna sound bad but i was just looking at the Vikes website and if you look below # 26's left hand on the main page I think the webmasters in Minneaoplis may want to review this.

If this has already been talked about  MY BAD!!!

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Team endorsed credit card? No big deal, I think a lot of teams do this. What would be the downfall?
 

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