Minnesota Vikings Team Thread (2 Viewers)

[travdogg]

They're still in on Rodgers? Ewwwwwww....

I don't care if he can win them a Super Bowl. Him winning the Vikings a championship would be worse to me than them never winning one at all.

Harumph.

Don't troll the Favre lovers

At least Favre was kind of likeable.

Really? I think Rodgers is a lot more likeable than Favre. Low bar and all, but Rodgers is just annoying, he's not committing awful crimes like Favre did.

I'm still thinking the most likely scenario is adding someone along the lines of Joe Flacco or someone like that, but its JJ's job.

 

[Donnybrook]

I have been doing a few Vikings mock draft simulations and it seems that the BPA at 24 is Colston Loveland. Free Agency has filed a lot of the holes and I am wondering if the Vikings reunite him and McCarthy.

Interesting thought as my brain never went there. They have Hock on the books for a few more years they are in a pretty good position to take BPA. It would give the offense extreme versatility and Loveland seems to perform well from the slot position.

It looks like Hockensen contract is back loaded. Potential out in 2026 according to Spotrac. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/29043/tj-hockenson. They also parted ways Mundt and Muse this off season.

Everyone expects Kwesi to trade down but he hasn't had alot of success doing that.

 

[N Zone]

I don't know how the Vikings haven't decided by now to just say no to Aaron Rodgers.

 

[BeTheMatch]

I don't know how the Vikings haven't decided by now to just say no to Aaron Rodgers.

They have

 

[travdogg]

2026 6th rounder for Jordan Mason. 2/12 extension

LOVE this deal for the Vikings. Mason looked great for the 49ers last year, until he got hurt. This is WAY better than Akers, or spending a pick they can't really afford.

I think there is a decent chance Mason leads the team in carries, with Jones being more of a passing game weapon.

 

[snogger]

They're still in on Rodgers? Ewwwwwww....

I don't care if he can win them a Super Bowl. Him winning the Vikings a championship would be worse to me than them never winning one at all.

Harumph.

Don't troll the Favre lovers

At least Favre was kind of likeable.

Really? I think Rodgers is a lot more likeable than Favre. Low bar and all, but Rodgers is just annoying, he's not committing awful crimes like Favre did.

I'm still thinking the most likely scenario is adding someone along the lines of Joe Flacco or someone like that, but its JJ's job.

At the time Favre wasn't committing any crimes. Also, he was not the cancer that Rodgers is.
He was a PITA with his will I retire or won't I crap.

Packers couldn't wait to get rid of Rodgers, same with The Jets.
I disliked Favre as a QB when he was with The Packers as he kicked our butts, but never disliked him as a person.

Rodgers is a POS and will be a nightmare to control. Just look at last year yelling at coaches, players, etc.
He blamed everyone except himself for his crappy play.

Hoping Vikings are reading the crowd and don't sign him.
But, the fact they haven't signed any other QB, scares me they might.

 

[Donnybrook]

Adam Schefter

@AdamSchefter

Trade: 49ers are trading Jordan Mason to the Minnesota Vikings. Viking are signing Mason to a 2-year deal with over $7 million fully guaranteed at signing with a maximum value of $12m. Negotiated by Jason & Michael Katz .

 

[TheAristocrat]

Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter

Trade: 49ers are trading Jordan Mason to the Minnesota Vikings. Viking are signing Mason to a 2-year deal with over $7 million fully guaranteed at signing with a maximum value of $12m. Negotiated by Jason & Michael Katz .

Good depth trade. The picks are I think a fifth round swap and the Vikings also sending a sixth. Can't complain.

 

[Donnybrook]

Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter

Trade: 49ers are trading Jordan Mason to the Minnesota Vikings. Viking are signing Mason to a 2-year deal with over $7 million fully guaranteed at signing with a maximum value of $12m. Negotiated by Jason & Michael Katz .

Good depth trade. The picks are I think a fifth round swap and the Vikings also sending a sixth. Can't complain.

Here are the actual terms:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GmIWI7UWQAAlj-r?format=jpg&name=medium

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I have been doing a few Vikings mock draft simulations and it seems that the BPA at 24 is Colston Loveland. Free Agency has filed a lot of the holes and I am wondering if the Vikings reunite him and McCarthy.

The name I see at that spot that I like is South Carolina safety Nick Emmanwori.

Otherwise they could take practically any other position and walk away with an upgrade or at least necessary depth.

I wouldn't even mind Omarion Hampton. The RB position is seeing a Renaissance and it's under reported how much the Vikings season was affected when Aaron Jones got hurt.

 

[snogger]

Good news here.. If this is true, it seems it is all Rodgers and his agent playing games.
" I’ll be more blunt. The Vikings have no interest in Aaron Rodgers despite his interest in them."

Are the Vikings actually in the Aaron Rodgers sweepstakes?

How many teams are actually interested in Aaron Rodgers?

www.yahoo.com

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Good news here.. If this is true, it seems it is all Rodgers and his agent playing games.
" I’ll be more blunt. The Vikings have no interest in Aaron Rodgers despite his interest in them."

Are the Vikings actually in the Aaron Rodgers sweepstakes?

How many teams are actually interested in Aaron Rodgers?

www.yahoo.com

Not to toot my own horn, but I called this literally the second word broke about some potential connection to the Vikings from Rogers. It had Aaron Rodgers camp bullshitting, written all over it.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

The name I see at that spot that I like is South Carolina safety Nick Emmanwori.

I might be wrong, but didn’t Minnesota re-sign most of their secondary? Or at least the pieces who could’ve gotten away, including Harrison Smith?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

The name I see at that spot that I like is South Carolina safety Nick Emmanwori.

I might be wrong, but didn’t Minnesota re-sign most of their secondary? Or at least the pieces who could’ve gotten away, including Harrison Smith?

They lost Bynum and Harrison Smith is near the end. They're still a bit thin there.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

They lost Bynum and Harrison Smith is near the end. They're still a bit thin there.

Oh - I thought Bynum was still there. Metellus likely gets a larger snap count, no?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

They lost Bynum and Harrison Smith is near the end. They're still a bit thin there.

Oh - I thought Bynum was still there. Metellus likely gets a larger snap count, no?

Probably and he's pretty good but is also on a short term contract.

 

[Donnybrook]

At safety, the Vikings like to roll with a trio of Camryn Bynum, Harrison Smith, and Josh Metellus. Bynam role was mostly dropping into coverage. I assume that Theo Jackson will inherit the Bynam role but that is just a guess.

The facts that Vikings were pursuing Jevon Holland, and signed Smith after he signed elsewhere, has to be sign that they are looking to improve.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Vikings released Garrett Bradbury.

FINALLY!

 

[Biabreakable]

I think the Vikings should draft a lineman with their 1st pick.

While the Vikings have done a great job improving the offensive and defensive lines through free agency, some of these players are injury risks.

Prefer offensive side over defense but BPA.

Eta - who might be available at the Vikings pick at guard or defensive tackle?

 

[Biabreakable]

They're still in on Rodgers? Ewwwwwww....

I don't care if he can win them a Super Bowl. Him winning the Vikings a championship would be worse to me than them never winning one at all.

Harumph.

Don't troll the Favre lovers

At least Favre was kind of likeable.

Really? I think Rodgers is a lot more likeable than Favre. Low bar and all, but Rodgers is just annoying, he's not committing awful crimes like Favre did.

I'm still thinking the most likely scenario is adding someone along the lines of Joe Flacco or someone like that, but its JJ's job.

When we say Rodgers is annoying we mean really annoying.

Yeah Favre is a scumbag stealing from poor people. But he was a tough SOB and easier to like as a player and a person than Rodgers.

I loved how Favre handled the rivalry with John Randle for example.

Rodgers has always been a DB.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I think the Vikings should draft a lineman with their 1st pick.

While the Vikings have done a great job improving the offensive and defensive lines through free agency, some of these players are injury risks.

Prefer offensive side over defense but BPA.

Eta - who might be available at the Vikings pick at guard or defensive tackle?

Just a quick glance at some rankings, looks like there are a few names possible at their spot:
Guards
Grey Zabel - NDSU (he's a beast)
Tyler Booker - Alabama

Several DTs
Derrick Harmon - Oregon
Kenneth Grant - Michigan
And 4 or 5 other guys that could squeak into the 1st

 

[Biabreakable]

I think the Vikings should draft a lineman with their 1st pick.

While the Vikings have done a great job improving the offensive and defensive lines through free agency, some of these players are injury risks.

Prefer offensive side over defense but BPA.

Eta - who might be available at the Vikings pick at guard or defensive tackle?

Just a quick glance at some rankings, looks like there are a few names possible at their spot:
Guards
Grey Zabel - NDSU (he's a beast)
Tyler Booker - Alabama

Several DTs
Derrick Harmon - Oregon
Kenneth Grant - Michigan
And 4 or 5 other guys that could squeak into the 1st

I mean obviously if a player at another position is BPA and they should take that player, but if it's even prefer the linemen.

Vikings have set themselves up to not reach for need with signings so far. They have also shown prioritization of improving both lines and this draft class from what little I've heard about it so far is very deep at these positions.

 

[BigJim®]

If the Vikes happen to acquire more picks via trade down, and are underwhelmed with Rypien at QB2, I'd love grabbing Will Howard if he falls to his 4th-5th round draft projection. I'm a big JJM fan, so this is not a move to question his role. However, I was really impressed with Howard at the combine and I think he'd be a great developmental QB3. I'd love to see the Vikes turn the page on empty cupboard behind QB1 and invest in better prospects than they have historically. Assuming all goes well with JJM, a guy like Howard might become year 2-3 future trade fodder on the merits of being groomed by KOC.

 

[Frostillicus]

https://x.com/TomPelissero
Tom Pelissero
https://x.com/TomPelissero
@TomPelissero


The #Vikings have rejected multiple trade calls on J.J. McCarthy, telling other teams they’re moving forward with him as their quarterback, sources say.The team plans to add a veteran. But they’re not pursuing Aaron Rodgers at this time. McCarthy now enters the offseason as QB1.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I think the Vikings should draft a lineman with their 1st pick.

While the Vikings have done a great job improving the offensive and defensive lines through free agency, some of these players are injury risks.

Prefer offensive side over defense but BPA.

Eta - who might be available at the Vikings pick at guard or defensive tackle?

Deep Draft for the 2 positions you mention in the area Minnesota is selecting.
Teams like Miami would be willing to trade down if the Vikes wanted to move up in the Draft for any player they covet/desire
27/58 and Rd 2 '25 might be enough to move up to 13...(I checked and Vikes actually pick 24th and don't appear to have a '25 2nd Rd pick to play with)
Miami is in the same boat, they need an OL/IDL from their 1st and 2nd round selections, anything else would be a luxury for them
Miami actually needs 2 strong OL selections if the Phins can swing it
Lot of DT prospects in the 2nd and 3rd round, someone from the 1st will fall too far as well

Who is starting at QB for the Vikings Week 1, can you answer that question for me?

 

[King of the Jungle]

I think the Vikings should draft a lineman with their 1st pick.

While the Vikings have done a great job improving the offensive and defensive lines through free agency, some of these players are injury risks.

Prefer offensive side over defense but BPA.

Eta - who might be available at the Vikings pick at guard or defensive tackle?

Deep Draft for the 2 positions you mention in the area Minnesota is selecting.
Teams like Miami would be willing to trade down if the Vikes wanted to move up in the Draft for any player they covet/desire
27/58 and Rd 2 '25 might be enough to move up to 13
Miami is in the same boat, they need an OL/IDL from their 1st and 2nd round selections, anything else would be a luxury for them
Miami actually needs 2 strong OL selections if the Phins can swing it
Lot of DT prospects in the 2nd and 3rd round, someone from the 1st will fall too far as well

Who is starting at QB for the Vikings Week 1, can you answer that question for me?

All signs point to the Vikings going with McCarthy at this point.

 

[Biabreakable]

I think the Vikings should draft a lineman with their 1st pick.

While the Vikings have done a great job improving the offensive and defensive lines through free agency, some of these players are injury risks.

Prefer offensive side over defense but BPA.

Eta - who might be available at the Vikings pick at guard or defensive tackle?

Deep Draft for the 2 positions you mention in the area Minnesota is selecting.
Teams like Miami would be willing to trade down if the Vikes wanted to move up in the Draft for any player they covet/desire
27/58 and Rd 2 '25 might be enough to move up to 13
Miami is in the same boat, they need an OL/IDL from their 1st and 2nd round selections, anything else would be a luxury for them
Miami actually needs 2 strong OL selections if the Phins can swing it
Lot of DT prospects in the 2nd and 3rd round, someone from the 1st will fall too far as well

Who is starting at QB for the Vikings Week 1, can you answer that question for me?

Jj McCarthy.

The Vikings need more picks. So I don't see them moving up where that's expensive.

I did look at some rankings for awhile. It seems that on overall boards the top guard and most of the DT are ranked about 30ish as edge and offensive tackle are ahead of them.

So I think plenty of options at pick 27 without needing to move up.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I think the Vikings should draft a lineman with their 1st pick.

While the Vikings have done a great job improving the offensive and defensive lines through free agency, some of these players are injury risks.

Prefer offensive side over defense but BPA.

Eta - who might be available at the Vikings pick at guard or defensive tackle?

Just a quick glance at some rankings, looks like there are a few names possible at their spot:
Guards
Grey Zabel - NDSU (he's a beast)
Tyler Booker - Alabama

Several DTs
Derrick Harmon - Oregon
Kenneth Grant - Michigan
And 4 or 5 other guys that could squeak into the 1st

Great list, I posted in @travdogg 2 Rd Mock, I have Miami trading back to Denver at 20/51 for the No 13 pick and I would like Miami to take Grey Zabel before you all do
My reasoning is Miami has a poor OL and they would be wise to take Zabel and let him start at LG next to Armstead assuming he doesn't retire at LT
Then roll Zabel to either LT or RT in '26. Armstead will retire and he can take over.
Huge Kenny Grant fan, he would fill a major need at NT for Miami.
DT is fairly deep, I like Zabel and then TJ Sanders for Miami at 48 sounds about right
But it's Miami so we likely will go WR and RB

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Who is starting at QB for the Vikings Week 1, can you answer that question for me?

JJM, and that’s been obvious since last year IMO.

 

[Biabreakable]

I think the Vikings should draft a lineman with their 1st pick.

While the Vikings have done a great job improving the offensive and defensive lines through free agency, some of these players are injury risks.

Prefer offensive side over defense but BPA.

Eta - who might be available at the Vikings pick at guard or defensive tackle?

Just a quick glance at some rankings, looks like there are a few names possible at their spot:
Guards
Grey Zabel - NDSU (he's a beast)
Tyler Booker - Alabama

Several DTs
Derrick Harmon - Oregon
Kenneth Grant - Michigan
And 4 or 5 other guys that could squeak into the 1st

Great list, I posted in @travdogg 2 Rd Mock, I have Miami trading back to Denver at 20/51 for the No 13 pick and I would like Miami to take Grey Zabel before you all do
My reasoning is Miami has a poor OL and they would be wise to take Zabel and let him start at LG next to Armstead assuming he doesn't retire at LT
Then roll Zabel to either LT or RT in '26. Armstead will retire and he can take over.
Huge Kenny Grant fan, he would fill a major need at NT for Miami.
DT is fairly deep, I like Zabel and then TJ Sanders for Miami at 48 sounds about right
But it's Miami so we likely will go WR and RB

Wasn't Miami focusing on offensive line for a bit there with the Tunsil pick and a few others around that time?

But then they went away from it?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I think the Vikings should draft a lineman with their 1st pick.

While the Vikings have done a great job improving the offensive and defensive lines through free agency, some of these players are injury risks.

Prefer offensive side over defense but BPA.

Eta - who might be available at the Vikings pick at guard or defensive tackle?

Just a quick glance at some rankings, looks like there are a few names possible at their spot:
Guards
Grey Zabel - NDSU (he's a beast)
Tyler Booker - Alabama

Several DTs
Derrick Harmon - Oregon
Kenneth Grant - Michigan
And 4 or 5 other guys that could squeak into the 1st

Great list, I posted in @travdogg 2 Rd Mock, I have Miami trading back to Denver at 20/51 for the No 13 pick and I would like Miami to take Grey Zabel before you all do
My reasoning is Miami has a poor OL and they would be wise to take Zabel and let him start at LG next to Armstead assuming he doesn't retire at LT
Then roll Zabel to either LT or RT in '26. Armstead will retire and he can take over.
Huge Kenny Grant fan, he would fill a major need at NT for Miami.
DT is fairly deep, I like Zabel and then TJ Sanders for Miami at 48 sounds about right
But it's Miami so we likely will go WR and RB

Wasn't Miami focusing on offensive line for a bit there with the Tunsil pick and a few others around that time?

But then they went away from it?

They drafted Hunt early 2nd and let him walk, same with Eichenberg but they brought him back, Austin Jackson was a 1st and he's missed over 24 games the last 3 years (Tua's blind side RT)
Armstead was a decent signing but he misses a lot of time, actually he started 15 games last year but 10 in '23. Brewer at Center is overpowered on short yardage situations
Miami needs a strong IOL from this Draft class

 

[BobbyLayne]

cross post from the Detroit thread:

r/NFL had some interesting charts & graphs Sunday illustrating the contributions teams received from their 2021-24 draft classes

How much value did each team get in 2024 from their recent draft picks?​

Y’all feeling confident Kwesi knows how to draft? Coming into Y4 and it feels like he hasn’t gotten great value there.

But you can bump this in December when JJM is killing it.

Pretty great FA period, we’ll see how that works out. Two of the last three years the Vikings have been stellar in the regular season. 34-17 is 6th best in the NFL over that span.

Cannot wait to see how strong the NFC North will be this year. Last year was historic; 45-23 was the best combined division record in NFL history.

0-3 in the playoffs so nobody cares. But feels like every team has a shot to get there in 2025, this is something of a golden era for the division.

 

[BigJim®]

Y’all feeling confident Kwesi knows how to draft?

Nope.

 

[Donnybrook]

Rondale Moore is younger than both Justin Jefferson and Jalen Nailor.

Brandon Powell is still a free agent so I assume Moore takes his punt returner and slot receiver duties.

 

[Biabreakable]

Y’all feeling confident Kwesi knows how to draft?

Nope.

The Vikings scouting department seems good at evaluating some positions not others.

I don't think it's fair to put all of the blame on the GM. It is a team effort a team decision.

Ultimately the buck stops with the GM and he has to be accountable for their process and the results.

Lewis Cine was injured. But he hasn't been good after recovery. I think the logic of the decision was ok but not the player.

Ingram was not a good decision either. They have wasted many offensive snaps trying to develop him.

I think they did a better job with their 2nd draft than the first one.

If the Vikings free agent moves were not so outstanding my attitude towards the GM would be more negative than it is.

Trading away draft picks as they have tells me they do not value picks and the unknown that comes with them as much as other teams or previous Vikings management has.

It all comes down to how well McCarthy does. If he is good Kwesi will be the GM for a long time.

If he doesn't do well then Kwesis job is at risk.

 

[Biabreakable]

To be more specific the Vikings have been good at drafting WR.

They have sucked at drafting offensive linemen.

This is a issue for the Vikings from long before Kwesi became the GM although ONeil and Darrisaw have been good picks. We have to back decades since the Vikings have drafted a center or guard that was good.

I just went back through their drafts. The last good center or guard the Vikings have drafted was in 1998 when they selected Matt Birk in the 6th round.

I should say I think the Vikings have done a good job signing UDFA the last 2 seasons.

 

[BigJim®]

I don't think it's fair to put all of the blame on the GM. It is a team effort a team decision.

Ultimately the buck stops with the GM and he has to be accountable for their process and the results.

My comment goes beyond player evaluation, which has been bad. His trades reflect a GM who doesn’t have any sense of pick value.

While I’m thrilled the stars aligned this year (cap $ being freed, enabling the filling of massive roster holes) - those massive roster holes have an origin. Relying on FA for talent at pricy positions (aka positions they’ve whiffed at) is not sustainable.

 

[travdogg]

According to NFL Network, the Vikings are talking to Ryan Tannehill as a backup/mentor. I like that fit.

 

[Donnybrook]

There has been some speculation on Vikings twitter that the Vikings will be inline for 2026 compensation picks for Sam Darnold and Cam Robinson. If they sign a backup QB prior to the draft, the contract would be included in the comp formula. On the hand, if they sign a QB after the draft the contract would not be included.

According to Thor Nystom, Tannehill, since he was not signed prior to last year's draft, would not be included in comp formula. The Vikings could sign Tannehill now or just wait until after the draft to sign a backup.

 

[BigJim®]

There has been some speculation on Vikings twitter that the Vikings will be inline for 2026 compensation picks for Sam Darnold and Cam Robinson

Wasn’t there some speculation/report last year that rostering Daniel Jones would cause him to be counted?

 

[King of the Jungle]

According to NFL Network, the Vikings are talking to Ryan Tannehill as a backup/mentor. I like that fit.

I would prefer Flacco if I were the Vikes, but that may not be in the cards. Ryan at least provides a veteran presence that will be much needed. Not sure how adequately he could step in and play at this point, been a minute since under center.

 

[travdogg]

According to NFL Network, the Vikings are talking to Ryan Tannehill as a backup/mentor. I like that fit.

I would prefer Flacco if I were the Vikes, but that may not be in the cards. Ryan at least provides a veteran presence that will be much needed. Not sure how adequately he could step in and play at this point, been a minute since under center.

I'd greatly prefer Tannehill. He was great when he had weapons, I'm not sure any non-elite QB would have worked in Tennessee after 2021. I think Tannehill's year off could be a benefit as it allowed him to get healthy. Flacco to me is a slightly better Jameis (blows my mind Giants fans, not just Nabers owners, are excited about him) you just know he's gonna sink you with a horrible INT, just a matter of when and how many.

 

[Donnybrook]

There has been some speculation on Vikings twitter that the Vikings will be inline for 2026 compensation picks for Sam Darnold and Cam Robinson

Wasn’t there some speculation/report last year that rostering Daniel Jones would cause him to be counted?

You are actually correct. https://youtu.be/ahKverxE2cM?t=94

 

[King of the Jungle]

According to NFL Network, the Vikings are talking to Ryan Tannehill as a backup/mentor. I like that fit.

I would prefer Flacco if I were the Vikes, but that may not be in the cards. Ryan at least provides a veteran presence that will be much needed. Not sure how adequately he could step in and play at this point, been a minute since under center.

I'd greatly prefer Tannehill. He was great when he had weapons, I'm not sure any non-elite QB would have worked in Tennessee after 2021. I think Tannehill's year off could be a benefit as it allowed him to get healthy. Flacco to me is a slightly better Jameis (blows my mind Giants fans, not just Nabers owners, are excited about him) you just know he's gonna sink you with a horrible INT, just a matter of when and how many.

I can see the argument for Tannehill over Flacco, I personally do not think there is a huge difference at this stage. The last time I recall watching Tannehill he seemed to be lost and lacked zip on his throws. Part of that may be due to what you mentioned about his situation however. The only reason Giant fans should be excited for Jameis is if they want to wait until next year to draft a QB (Jameis equals good draft position).

 

[Donnybrook]

So true:
https://x.com/Jennife55216657/status/1903205114309120188/photo/1

 

[Biabreakable]

I don't think it's fair to put all of the blame on the GM. It is a team effort a team decision.

Ultimately the buck stops with the GM and he has to be accountable for their process and the results.

My comment goes beyond player evaluation, which has been bad. His trades reflect a GM who doesn’t have any sense of pick value.

While I’m thrilled the stars aligned this year (cap $ being freed, enabling the filling of massive roster holes) - those massive roster holes have an origin. Relying on FA for talent at pricy positions (aka positions they’ve whiffed at) is not sustainable.

I had forgotten about the pick trade values being off and that does include the trades they made last season where they ended up paying a lot of draft capital for Dallas Turner.

Now there is some reason for that as they were using the extra picks to trade up for a QB.

When they got the QB they wanted then they turned those picks into Turner.

I will say that taking these below market value deals encourages other teams to send the Vikings trade offers. But yes they have lost draft capital on almost every draft pick deal they have made.

 

[Donnybrook]

Top 30 visits:
https://x.com/i/status/1904286479104307423

 

[Donnybrook]

Player meetings:

https://x.com/i/status/1904186174429594068

https://x.com/i/status/1903912576821670397

 

[rockaction]

I'd greatly prefer Tannehill. He was great when he had weapons, I'm not sure any non-elite QB would have worked in Tennessee after 2021. I think Tannehill's year off could be a benefit as it allowed him to get healthy. Flacco to me is a slightly better Jameis (blows my mind Giants fans, not just Nabers owners, are excited about him) you just know he's gonna sink you with a horrible INT, just a matter of when and how many.

I think the reason fans love Jameis is because he throws deep and plays exciting. Nobody is fooling themselves that Jameis will control himself and not turn the ball over playing hero ball. You know how baseball went all analytics and it bored the hell out of fans and made the game unwatchable? Seems like the modern movement towards short passing and the running game is doing the same in football. Fans are looking for gunslinging quarterbacks because they're exciting. Nothing is more boring than watching a team have to piddle its way down the field against a Fangio-copied defense.

It's not fun football to watch. Jameis takes shots and fans love Jameis. Chicks dig the long ball. All that stuff goes into it.

There, you've been put on notice regarding why a crappy team's fans will rejoice at a Jameis signing. Fans of that team will get to watch exciting, sometimes competent football that is up-and-down and all around with the turnovers, too. For the moments that ball is in the air, the excitement is crazy, even when he makes one of those horrible throws into triple coverage where even the receiver wants to know what the heck he's doing. It might cost you the game, but at least its more exciting than watching Daniel Jones miss every throw and scrape out five yards a pop with an RPO that is aesthetically unpleasing beyond a doubt.

"Ooh look, there's a fifty-yard bomb!"

"Wait, you haven't seen Daniel Jones break off five yards on the ground!"

That's why the fans love Jameis even when they groan about him. At least you feel alive for a minute and have hope.

 

[travdogg]

I'd greatly prefer Tannehill. He was great when he had weapons, I'm not sure any non-elite QB would have worked in Tennessee after 2021. I think Tannehill's year off could be a benefit as it allowed him to get healthy. Flacco to me is a slightly better Jameis (blows my mind Giants fans, not just Nabers owners, are excited about him) you just know he's gonna sink you with a horrible INT, just a matter of when and how many.

I think the reason fans love Jameis is because he throws deep and plays exciting. Nobody is fooling themselves that Jameis will control himself and not turn the ball over playing hero ball. You know how baseball went all analytics and it bored the hell out of fans and made the game unwatchable? Seems like the modern movement towards short passing and the running game is doing the same in football. Fans are looking for gunslinging quarterbacks because they're exciting. Nothing is more boring than watching a team have to piddle its way down the field against a Fangio-copied defense.

It's not fun football to watch. Jameis takes shots and fans love Jameis. Chicks dig the long ball. All that stuff goes into it.

There, you've been put on notice regarding why a crappy team's fans will rejoice at a Jameis signing. Fans of that team will get to watch exciting, sometimes competent football that is up-and-down and all around with the turnovers, too. For the moments that ball is in the air, the excitement is crazy, even when he makes one of those horrible throws into triple coverage where even the receiver wants to know what the heck he's doing. It might cost you the game, but at least its more exciting than watching Daniel Jones miss every throw and scrape out five yards a pop with an RPO that is aesthetically unpleasing beyond a doubt.

"Ooh look, there's a fifty-yard bomb!"

"Wait, you haven't seen Daniel Jones break off five yards on the ground!"

That's why the fans love Jameis even when they groan about him. At least you feel alive for a minute and have hope.

Fair enough. I think these 2 things are both true:

Jameis Winston is more fun than Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones is a better QB than Jameis Winston. There isn't a worse decision maker at QB in the NFL than Winston. To be honest, I'm starting to become convinced the NYG are going Sanders at #3.

Personally, as it pertains to a backup QB, I'd take Tannehill over either of them.