MLB in-season thread (1 Viewer)

[Dr. Awesome]

So far this year it seems that team defense is really good.I'm not just talking about the White Sox outfielder Lillibridge from yesterday or Choo nailing the two runners at the plate on Sunday, or the Web-Gems,but in general it looks like most teams are playing very sharp, and consistent defense all around the diamond.

You haven't watched the A's. I went to the game last night and saw Kevin Kouzmanoff rob Cliff Pennington of a routine grounder. He's been about as terrible as it gets.

 

[Eephus]

So far this year it seems that team defense is really good.I'm not just talking about the White Sox outfielder Lillibridge from yesterday or Choo nailing the two runners at the plate on Sunday, or the Web-Gems,but in general it looks like most teams are playing very sharp, and consistent defense all around the diamond.

You haven't watched the A's. I went to the game last night and saw Kevin Kouzmanoff rob Cliff Pennington of a routine grounder. He's been about as terrible as it gets.

I know FLD% isn't a great statistic but the numbers for this year are right about where they were last year.

 

[Smack Tripper]

I remember someone saying they thought Kennedy would be the best out of him, Hughes, and Joba. Lemme see if I can find it.

Put Hughes or Jobber in the NL west in pressure free environs and I'm sure you see more than IPK has showed.

...and that's today's East coast bias moment.

No kidding.

Please, its without comparison. Facing pitchers, weaker teams and pitchers parks outside of Coors versus the AL sticks, talent and small parks? Do you know how you say Ian Kennedy in spanish? Ivan Nova.

 

[urbanhack]

Gallardo....really? WTF is his problem?????

 

[the moops]

Without looking it up, guess what Granderson is batting vs lefties this year.

.069

.380

So he is due to bat .069 for the next 2 months or so considering he is a lifetime 219.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

So far this year it seems that team defense is really good.I'm not just talking about the White Sox outfielder Lillibridge from yesterday or Choo nailing the two runners at the plate on Sunday, or the Web-Gems,but in general it looks like most teams are playing very sharp, and consistent defense all around the diamond.

You haven't watched the A's. I went to the game last night and saw Kevin Kouzmanoff rob Cliff Pennington of a routine grounder. He's been about as terrible as it gets.

I know FLD% isn't a great statistic but the numbers for this year are right about where they were last year.

He's slow to get to the ball. His range isn't nearly as large as he tries to make it. Barton bails him out on a lot of throws.

 

[Eephus]

So far this year it seems that team defense is really good.I'm not just talking about the White Sox outfielder Lillibridge from yesterday or Choo nailing the two runners at the plate on Sunday, or the Web-Gems,but in general it looks like most teams are playing very sharp, and consistent defense all around the diamond.

You haven't watched the A's. I went to the game last night and saw Kevin Kouzmanoff rob Cliff Pennington of a routine grounder. He's been about as terrible as it gets.

I know FLD% isn't a great statistic but the numbers for this year are right about where they were last year.

He's slow to get to the ball. His range isn't nearly as large as he tries to make it. Barton bails him out on a lot of throws.

sorry, I was talking about MLB as a whole, not Kouzmanoff who I know you despise.

 

[cheese]

Didn't Renteria used to be decent defensively? Another big error for him 1 batter after being double-switched in for Janish.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

So far this year it seems that team defense is really good.I'm not just talking about the White Sox outfielder Lillibridge from yesterday or Choo nailing the two runners at the plate on Sunday, or the Web-Gems,but in general it looks like most teams are playing very sharp, and consistent defense all around the diamond.

You haven't watched the A's. I went to the game last night and saw Kevin Kouzmanoff rob Cliff Pennington of a routine grounder. He's been about as terrible as it gets.

I know FLD% isn't a great statistic but the numbers for this year are right about where they were last year.

He's slow to get to the ball. His range isn't nearly as large as he tries to make it. Barton bails him out on a lot of throws.

sorry, I was talking about MLB as a whole, not Kouzmanoff who I know you despise.

Gotcha. I misunderstood. I guess I have been pretty vocal with my Kouzanoff hatred.

 

[shuke]

Didn't Renteria used to be decent defensively? Another big error for him 1 batter after being double-switched in for Janish.

He's like 60.

 

[shuke]

Please, its without comparison. Facing pitchers, weaker teams and pitchers parks outside of Coors versus the AL sticks, talent and small parks?

 

[rascal]

WTF is going on in LA?

Ethier hits a HR in the top of the 10th. Mattingly said the day before that Broxton was still his closer...so who goes out today...Padilla.

 

[Eephus]

WTF is going on in LA?Ethier hits a HR in the top of the 10th. Mattingly said the day before that Broxton was still his closer...so who goes out today...Padilla.

Broxton supposedly was unavailable today due to elbow soreness.

 

[shadyridr]

Without looking it up, guess what Granderson is batting vs lefties this year.

.069

.380

So he is due to bat .069 for the next 2 months or so considering he is a lifetime 219.

Really?

 

[the moops]

Without looking it up, guess what Granderson is batting vs lefties this year.

.069

.380

So he is due to bat .069 for the next 2 months or so considering he is a lifetime 219.

Really?

No.

 

[cheese]

I remember someone saying they thought Kennedy would be the best out of him, Hughes, and Joba. Lemme see if I can find it.

Put Hughes or Jobber in the NL west in pressure free environs and I'm sure you see more than IPK has showed.

...and that's today's East coast bias moment.

No kidding.

Please, its without comparison. Facing pitchers, weaker teams and pitchers parks outside of Coors versus the AL sticks, talent and small parks?

Do you know how you say Ian Kennedy in spanish? Ivan Nova.

LHUCKS owns this shtick.

 

[Eephus]

Without looking it up, guess what Granderson is batting vs lefties this year.

.069

.380

So he is due to bat .069 for the next 2 months or so considering he is a lifetime 219.

Really?

No.

He has all of 18 ABs against lefties. Three 0-4 days will bring him back to normal.

 

[Captain Hook]

WTF is going on in LA?Ethier hits a HR in the top of the 10th. Mattingly said the day before that Broxton was still his closer...so who goes out today...Padilla.

Not sure where you got that Mattingly said Broxton was still the closer .....he said Broxton was still in the mix....with Kuo coming off the DL this week look for a committee with Padilla, Kuo, and Broxton....maybe Jansen gets invited in (if he starts pitching better) and maybe Broxton resumes full closer status but the elbow pain doesn't sound good and may well be why he hasn't pitched better

 

[shadyridr]

Without looking it up, guess what Granderson is batting vs lefties this year.

.069

.380

So he is due to bat .069 for the next 2 months or so considering he is a lifetime 219.

Really?

No.

Lol ok my sarcasm meter was off. I thought u really meant that

 

[RnR]

I remember someone saying they thought Kennedy would be the best out of him, Hughes, and Joba. Lemme see if I can find it.

Put Hughes or Jobber in the NL west in pressure free environs and I'm sure you see more than IPK has showed.

...and that's today's East coast bias moment.

No kidding.

Please, its without comparison. Facing pitchers, weaker teams and pitchers parks outside of Coors versus the AL sticks, talent and small parks? Do you know how you say Ian Kennedy in spanish? Ivan Nova.

Care to look up where his home park (Chase Field) ranks in Park Factor?

 

[Eephus]

I remember someone saying they thought Kennedy would be the best out of him, Hughes, and Joba. Lemme see if I can find it.

Put Hughes or Jobber in the NL west in pressure free environs and I'm sure you see more than IPK has showed.

...and that's today's East coast bias moment.

No kidding.

Please, its without comparison. Facing pitchers, weaker teams and pitchers parks outside of Coors versus the AL sticks, talent and small parks? Do you know how you say Ian Kennedy in spanish? Ivan Nova.

Care to look up where his home park (Chase Field) ranks in Park Factor?

It's not in the Eastern time zone

 

[whoknew]

Why does Milton Bradley wear earplugs?

 

[shadyridr]

Why does Milton Bradley wear earplugs?

fan safety

 

[Limp Ditka]

Only Ranger on one of my teams is Murphy (Have Hamilton too)... he just made the 1st and 3rd out of a 6 run 2nd

 

[SuperAwesomeDude]

thoughts on kinsler? his value is entirely related to his health right? his last full-ish season (144g in '09) he went 31/31 which is huge from 2b. besides 09 he has never played in more than 130 games in a season.

are his injuries flukie?

 

[rascal]

How long are they going to keep Wade Davis in there....Good grief.

 

[pollardsvision]

thoughts on kinsler? his value is entirely related to his health right? his last full-ish season (144g in '09) he went 31/31 which is huge from 2b. besides 09 he has never played in more than 130 games in a season. are his injuries flukie?

I think the health stuff should be taken seriously until he shows he can play a full season, but I also think he's underrated because of it. Much like Chipper a few years ago. Stud production for 130 games plus waiver fodder for 50 isn't so bad. Looking at his injuries:'06: Dislocated thumb'07: Stress fracture in foot'08: Sports hernia'09: Strained hammy'10: High ankle sprainNothing seems fluky and the injury-prone tag seems well deserved.Still, I'm a big Kinsler fan and I'd be buying.Maybe his owner is scared of the injuries and the current .216 AVG, but he's actually having a very good season. Taking a ton of walks (16, .349 OBP), hitting for power and stealing bases.

 

[shadyridr]

This Pineda cat just struck out the first 4 guys he faced

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Bautista - homerun number nine. Is it too early to serve crow to his skeptics this year?

 

[RnR]

Bautista - homerun number nine. Is it too early to serve crow to his skeptics this year?

Absolutely too early. It's April.

 

[urbanhack]

Bautista - homerun number nine. Is it too early to serve crow to his skeptics this year?

Absolutely too early. It's April.

No...I think the timing is right.start eating...

 

[the moops]

Is Alex Avila for real?

I picked him up when V-Mart went down and he has managed to bat 330 and drive in 8 runs over that time frame (10 days).

 

[Limp Ditka]

Does anyone hit the ball farther than Justin Upton?

 

[scoobus]

Does anyone hit the ball farther than Justin Upton?

Yes

 

[Limp Ditka]

Does anyone hit the ball farther than Justin Upton?

Yes

For this year, no.http://www.hittrackeronline.com/top_true_distance.phpAnd he hit another one today that will probably have him 3 of the top 4 for the year.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Bautista - homerun number nine. Is it too early to serve crow to his skeptics this year?

Absolutely too early. It's April.

No...I think the timing is right.start eating...

It's a lot of crow. Better to start taking small bites now.

 

[shuke]

Bautista - homerun number nine. Is it too early to serve crow to his skeptics this year?

Absolutely too early. It's April.

 

[RnR]

Bautista - homerun number nine. Is it too early to serve crow to his skeptics this year?

Absolutely too early. It's April.

I don't even really have any crow to eat. He's a 30-year-old journey man with a .245 career batting average. One 50 HR season doesn't make him a top draft pick. Even if he repeats it this season, he wasn't the smart pick at his ADP.

"You can't win your fantasy league in the first few rounds of your draft, but you can most definitely lose it", applies to drafting Bautista this season. He's one of those guys that you pay for an outlier season and have a high probability of getting burned.

All that being said, he's looked fantastic this April. Kudos to the guys that drafted him. Chances are getting better by the day that you get fair value for the price you paid. Congrats?

 

[the moops]

"You can't win your fantasy league in the first few rounds of your draft, but you can most definitely lose it", applies to drafting Bautista this season. He's one of those guys that you pay for an outlier season and have a high probability of getting burned.

Yea, instead I got Carl freaking Crawford.

 

[RnR]

"You can't win your fantasy league in the first few rounds of your draft, but you can most definitely lose it", applies to drafting Bautista this season. He's one of those guys that you pay for an outlier season and have a high probability of getting burned.

Yea, instead I got Carl freaking Crawford.

Thoughts and prayers, GB.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I don't even really have any crow to eat. He's a 30-year-old journey man with a .245 career batting average. One 50 HR season doesn't make him a top draft pick. Even if he repeats it this season, he wasn't the smart pick at his ADP.

If he puts up another 50+ home runs he'll have been worth the #1 overall pick. Nevermind any later. If you got him in a later round, kudos (I got him in the 3rd round both leagues).

 

[RnR]

I don't even really have any crow to eat. He's a 30-year-old journey man with a .245 career batting average. One 50 HR season doesn't make him a top draft pick. Even if he repeats it this season, he wasn't the smart pick at his ADP.

If he puts up another 50+ home runs he'll have been worth the #1 overall pick. Nevermind any later. If you got him in a later round, kudos (I got him in the 3rd round both leagues).

That's nonsense. 2010 Jose Bautista was a slightly better and flashier version of Adam Dunn. Adam Dunn has never sniffed being a first round selection, and he's been doing that for the better part of a decade. Make me a rational argument that he was a smarter pick than a guy like Dunn coming into this season. If you were willing to take the BA risk to get a big HR guy, one has 8 years of "know what you've got" and the other is a big pile of mystery. In terms of his value vs. ADP, its all about the risk/reward. If you're playing in a deep, high-stakes league, taking a guy like Bautista as the cornerstone of your team is a boom or bust move. It offers way more risk than upside, IMO. If you did it and it works out, that's great for you. That's like doubling down on a 12 in blackjack and spiking a 9. I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just saying you're playing the short side of the math.

Find me ONE person that has followed Bautista's career arc and followed their outlier season with another top notch season. When you find that one, I'll go find 7 or 8 that have been complete flops in their follow-up season. It usually doesn't happen that way.

As for your claim that he'll be worth the first overall pick if he has a repeat season, I just don't see it. The first overall pick will never be a guy that hits .260 and has single digit steals. At best, you can make an argument that he's Ryan Howard lite... and that's still a guy that has never been a serious consideration for #1 overall value in standard 5x5.

Some of you guys have a serious man crush on this dude, and to be honest I'm a little baffled. He's a nice power hitter, and he's certainly fun to watch, but I just can't imagine putting down a big pile of cash to play and hitching my wagons to Bautista with an early pick.

 

[the moops]

#1 pick is crazy talk. I think he actually went right where he should of in most leagues. I know I was annoyed that the guy in front of me took him at the beginning of round 4.

Was he going in the first 2 rounds in most leagues?

 

[RnR]

#1 pick is crazy talk. I think he actually went right where he should of in most leagues. I know I was annoyed that the guy in front of me took him at the beginning of round 4.Was he going in the first 2 rounds in most leagues?

In 166 NFBC leagues (ranging in price from $100 to $5000), his ADP was 31.52 with a high pick of 13 and a low pick of 45. These are 15-team leagues, so he was as high as a late 1st rounder and never made it out of the 3rd round. Most leagues valued him at late 2nd/early 3rd.

 

[the moops]

#1 pick is crazy talk. I think he actually went right where he should of in most leagues. I know I was annoyed that the guy in front of me took him at the beginning of round 4.Was he going in the first 2 rounds in most leagues?

In 166 NFBC leagues (ranging in price from $100 to $5000), his ADP was 31.52 with a high pick of 13 and a low pick of 45. These are 15-team leagues, so he was as high as a late 1st rounder and never made it out of the 3rd round. Most leagues valued him at late 2nd/early 3rd.

Damn

 

[RnR]

#1 pick is crazy talk. I think he actually went right where he should of in most leagues. I know I was annoyed that the guy in front of me took him at the beginning of round 4.Was he going in the first 2 rounds in most leagues?

In 166 NFBC leagues (ranging in price from $100 to $5000), his ADP was 31.52 with a high pick of 13 and a low pick of 45. These are 15-team leagues, so he was as high as a late 1st rounder and never made it out of the 3rd round. Most leagues valued him at late 2nd/early 3rd.

Damn

To be honest, I think his 3B eligibility drove his price up a bit. 3B seemed extremely weak heading into the season.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I don't even really have any crow to eat. He's a 30-year-old journey man with a .245 career batting average. One 50 HR season doesn't make him a top draft pick. Even if he repeats it this season, he wasn't the smart pick at his ADP.

If he puts up another 50+ home runs he'll have been worth the #1 overall pick. Nevermind any later. If you got him in a later round, kudos (I got him in the 3rd round both leagues).

That's nonsense. 2010 Jose Bautista was a slightly better and flashier version of Adam Dunn. Adam Dunn has never sniffed being a first round selection, and he's been doing that for the better part of a decade. Make me a rational argument that he was a smarter pick than a guy like Dunn coming into this season. If you were willing to take the BA risk to get a big HR guy, one has 8 years of "know what you've got" and the other is a big pile of mystery. In terms of his value vs. ADP, its all about the risk/reward. If you're playing in a deep, high-stakes league, taking a guy like Bautista as the cornerstone of your team is a boom or bust move. It offers way more risk than upside, IMO. If you did it and it works out, that's great for you. That's like doubling down on a 12 in blackjack and spiking a 9. I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just saying you're playing the short side of the math.

Find me ONE person that has followed Bautista's career arc and followed their outlier season with another top notch season. When you find that one, I'll go find 7 or 8 that have been complete flops in their follow-up season. It usually doesn't happen that way.

As for your claim that he'll be worth the first overall pick if he has a repeat season, I just don't see it. The first overall pick will never be a guy that hits .260 and has single digit steals. At best, you can make an argument that he's Ryan Howard lite... and that's still a guy that has never been a serious consideration for #1 overall value in standard 5x5.

Some of you guys have a serious man crush on this dude, and to be honest I'm a little baffled. He's a nice power hitter, and he's certainly fun to watch, but I just can't imagine putting down a big pile of cash to play and hitching my wagons to Bautista with an early pick.

Adam Dunn was never eligible to play 3rd base.

 

[Captain Hook]

Is Alex Avila for real?I picked him up when V-Mart went down and he has managed to bat 330 and drive in 8 runs over that time frame (10 days).

I don't think you can count on anywhere near that production going forward BUT I do agree that Avila clearly changed some things and is taking a nice step up from last year.

 

[RnR]

I don't even really have any crow to eat. He's a 30-year-old journey man with a .245 career batting average. One 50 HR season doesn't make him a top draft pick. Even if he repeats it this season, he wasn't the smart pick at his ADP.

If he puts up another 50+ home runs he'll have been worth the #1 overall pick. Nevermind any later. If you got him in a later round, kudos (I got him in the 3rd round both leagues).

That's nonsense. 2010 Jose Bautista was a slightly better and flashier version of Adam Dunn. Adam Dunn has never sniffed being a first round selection, and he's been doing that for the better part of a decade. Make me a rational argument that he was a smarter pick than a guy like Dunn coming into this season. If you were willing to take the BA risk to get a big HR guy, one has 8 years of "know what you've got" and the other is a big pile of mystery. In terms of his value vs. ADP, its all about the risk/reward. If you're playing in a deep, high-stakes league, taking a guy like Bautista as the cornerstone of your team is a boom or bust move. It offers way more risk than upside, IMO. If you did it and it works out, that's great for you. That's like doubling down on a 12 in blackjack and spiking a 9. I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just saying you're playing the short side of the math.

Find me ONE person that has followed Bautista's career arc and followed their outlier season with another top notch season. When you find that one, I'll go find 7 or 8 that have been complete flops in their follow-up season. It usually doesn't happen that way.

As for your claim that he'll be worth the first overall pick if he has a repeat season, I just don't see it. The first overall pick will never be a guy that hits .260 and has single digit steals. At best, you can make an argument that he's Ryan Howard lite... and that's still a guy that has never been a serious consideration for #1 overall value in standard 5x5.

Some of you guys have a serious man crush on this dude, and to be honest I'm a little baffled. He's a nice power hitter, and he's certainly fun to watch, but I just can't imagine putting down a big pile of cash to play and hitching my wagons to Bautista with an early pick.

Adam Dunn was never eligible to play 3rd base.

In that case, all of what I said was wrong. Glad to see you decided not to take me up on the bolded.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

In that case, all of what I said was wrong. Glad to see you decided not to take me up on the bolded.

I don't paint all players with the same brush. He erupted the last month plus of 2009. He kept it up for all of 2010. The biggest reason I felt it could continue? He's shown a great eye. I don't think every player who blows up will always continue. But I don't ignore the possibility simply because limited historical data points to it not continuing. The number of players that fit his path are too small to draw any meaningful conclusions.