~MMA Draft Thread~ (1 Viewer)

[scoobus]

Couple of quick thoughts:

1. I'm less of a fan of Fedor than most, but IMO he's still the clear #1 pick as far as retired fighters go.

2. I agree with others who say he was drafted to soon, although I'm still not 100% sure what we're drafting with the intent to do.

3. I would strongly be in favor of cutting the number of flyweights each team needs to 1, possibly the bantamweights as well.

 

[Possum]

Couple of quick thoughts:1. I'm less of a fan of Fedor than most, but IMO he's still the clear #1 pick as far as retired fighters go.

by a Matt Hughes country mile - I like the cut of your jib, sir.

2. I agree with others who say he was drafted to soon, although I'm still not 100% sure what we're drafting with the intent to do.

I get people saying that, but if retired fighters are a category, I like having the best of all time on my roster. I feel like at this point, he's got the biggest lead in his category compared to anyone else available.as far as what our objective is in drafting, EY says we're each drafting a mini organization (which to me means drafting guys to fight against each other within your roster). When I asked about that, though, he said that you're just drafting a roster of guys to try to get the best possible group when matched up against your fellow drafters (to me, that's a fight camp, but I'm good with calling it whatever since it's EY's draft). That's how I understand the purpose of this draft, at least.

3. I would strongly be in favor of cutting the number of flyweights each team needs to 1, possibly the bantamweights as well.

I agree on flyweights and said that earlier in the thread, but I think there's plenty of talent at bantamweight to keep it at two guys.

 

[hooter311]

I believe the intent is to draft a bunch of fighters and then rank them like every other FFA draft.

The match-up idea was thrown out as soon as it was brought up.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

I'm going rogue here. The fact that we are using fighters at their current state means that we have some of the GOATs who are in the sunset of their careers who are not "good picks" by the rules of this draft. #### that. If this means I have a roster full of washed up old men, so be it and "I lose", so be it.

1.09 -- Wanderlei "the Axe Murderer" Silva

 

[hooter311]

I'm going rogue here. The fact that we are using fighters at their current state means that we have some of the GOATs who are in the sunset of their careers who are not "good picks" by the rules of this draft. #### that. If this means I have a roster full of washed up old men, so be it and "I lose", so be it.

1.09 -- Wanderlei "the Axe Murderer" Silva

For guys like this I think we would really do them justice by making them eligible for the retired/As they were category. A human body is capable of withstanding only so many wars. Wandy is well past his number but looks to possibly have a couple more in him.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

I'm going rogue here. The fact that we are using fighters at their current state means that we have some of the GOATs who are in the sunset of their careers who are not "good picks" by the rules of this draft. #### that. If this means I have a roster full of washed up old men, so be it and "I lose", so be it.

1.09 -- Wanderlei "the Axe Murderer" Silva

I'm okay with him going into the retired/HOFer category.

 

[kutta]

I'm going rogue here. The fact that we are using fighters at their current state means that we have some of the GOATs who are in the sunset of their careers who are not "good picks" by the rules of this draft. #### that. If this means I have a roster full of washed up old men, so be it and "I lose", so be it.

1.09 -- Wanderlei "the Axe Murderer" Silva

Maybe we could say that anyone over 35 years old can go into either the retired/HOF or the weight category - drafter's choice.

 

[EYLive]

I'm going rogue here. The fact that we are using fighters at their current state means that we have some of the GOATs who are in the sunset of their careers who are not "good picks" by the rules of this draft. #### that. If this means I have a roster full of washed up old men, so be it and "I lose", so be it.

1.09 -- Wanderlei "the Axe Murderer" Silva

I think at this point in Wandy's career we all prefer to remember him in his prime Pride days. There isn't anyone that would deny he'll be a HOFer some day so I have no problem putting this pick in that category.No point in getting technical in a for-fun draft.

 

[modogg]

I have to run a meeting in about 15 mins so these will be quick. Picking after the obvious choices is tough

1.10 Anthony pettis

2.1 Rhonda rousey

I know we don't have a category for women but this is my try here. If it doesn't hold up ill make my other pick early afternoon and I hope showtime isn't a reach, was hard to figure where he would go. Owning a win over bendo sold me

 

[modogg]

And can somebody on ahrn to let him know hell pick either now or in an hour or 2. Can't pm from my phone

 

[EYLive]

I have to run a meeting in about 15 mins so these will be quick. Picking after the obvious choices is tough

1.10 Anthony pettis

2.1 Rhonda rousey

I know we don't have a category for women but this is my try here. If it doesn't hold up ill make my other pick early afternoon and I hope showtime isn't a reach, was hard to figure where he would go. Owning a win over bendo sold me

Hmmm... well she is a bantamweight, right?

 

[EYLive]

And can somebody on ahrn to let him know hell pick either now or in an hour or 2. Can't pm from my phone

PM'd

 

[Possum]

I'm going rogue here. The fact that we are using fighters at their current state means that we have some of the GOATs who are in the sunset of their careers who are not "good picks" by the rules of this draft. #### that. If this means I have a roster full of washed up old men, so be it and "I lose", so be it.

1.09 -- Wanderlei "the Axe Murderer" Silva

well hell, this kind of changes what I would've done at 6 if I'd known the "retired fighters" category was going to get a lot deeper with the inclusion of active older guys. I'm good with it if everyone else is, but now that pick is getting a lot harder to justify

 

[modogg]

I'm going rogue here. The fact that we are using fighters at their current state means that we have some of the GOATs who are in the sunset of their careers who are not "good picks" by the rules of this draft. #### that. If this means I have a roster full of washed up old men, so be it and "I lose", so be it.

1.09 -- Wanderlei "the Axe Murderer" Silva

It is tricky. I was thinking there is some grey area there because some guys may be over 35 but are still plenty active. Might be better to make it based on if a fighter is active or on a roster vs those who are not. And what are the thoughts on rousey? I kind of slid that in there, knowing there was a legit chance I may have to change. I'm also cool with letting the draft continue and changing the pick after a few if people think we should allow no women. Might be able to lump in the lighter weights and women together because of the small number of fighters in those classes

 

[kutta]

I'm going rogue here. The fact that we are using fighters at their current state means that we have some of the GOATs who are in the sunset of their careers who are not "good picks" by the rules of this draft. #### that. If this means I have a roster full of washed up old men, so be it and "I lose", so be it.

1.09 -- Wanderlei "the Axe Murderer" Silva

I have no problem with the Rousey pick.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

2.02 Dan Henderson

I'll take him as an active LHW.

I was running around my living room screaming when this happened.

 

[modogg]

Hmm, so rethinking my pick I may have grabbed rousey to early. I like her as a foundation to my roster, but not picking for 20 picks means I am going to lose out on a lot of top talent. I guess we'll see how it goes, but I may have jumped the gun a little too quick on her.

 

[EYLive]

I hate you guys for making me do this.

2.03 Demetrious Johnson, midget

I was hoping to get a big name contender in the upper weightclasses, then you dopes go and leave a champ on the board in round 2. I can't in good conscience let him slip, so now I have 2 tiny champions.

scoobus PM'd

 

[EYLive]

I have to run a meeting in about 15 mins so these will be quick. Picking after the obvious choices is tough1.10 Anthony pettis2.1 Rhonda rouseyI know we don't have a category for women but this is my try here. If it doesn't hold up ill make my other pick early afternoon and I hope showtime isn't a reach, was hard to figure where he would go. Owning a win over bendo sold me

BTW, what weightclass do you want Pettis in?

 

[EYLive]

Hmm, so rethinking my pick I may have grabbed rousey to early. I like her as a foundation to my roster, but not picking for 20 picks means I am going to lose out on a lot of top talent. I guess we'll see how it goes, but I may have jumped the gun a little too quick on her.

If everyone is ok with putting her in bantamweight, that kind of outside the box thinking can be a sneaky good pick. But there's no ADP for this type of thing so it's hard to tell if it's early or not.

 

[scoobus]

2.04 Daniel Cormier

I think there's a legit chance he's the best fighter in the world. Olympic caliber wrestling, power in his hands. Absolutely destroyed Bigfoot and Barnett, I'll be excited if they book him against Jon Jones should he get through Mir.

Please pm next, on phone

 

[Possum]

nice pick, scoobus - leaves me with a bit of a tough decision...

but at 2.05 I'll take Junior dos Santos - at only 28 years old, Cigano has plenty of time to return to the top of the HW division. I think he'll bounce back from his loss to Velasquez by punching Mark Hunt's face onto the back of his head, Linda Blair-style, and be challenging for the belt again within the year.

 

[hooter311]

2.06 Lyoto Machida- Light Heavyweight

Not a lot of value at this point in the draft. Machida is the best counterstriker in the division. His front kick to KO Couture was right out of the Karate Kid. Some could argue that he is "boring", but as a counterstriker he will only produce fireworks against fighters that are aggressive. He is actually a bit undersized at LHW but his bff, Anderson Silva, obviously reigns the 185 lb division. Kind of crazy that he risks coming in at 20 lb weight disadvantages on fight night against his opposition.

 

[bonesman]

2.06 Lyoto Machida- Light Heavyweight

I really like the guy because of his uniqueness. Was one of 3 guys I was eyeing for my next pick, but ranked lower than the other two... or maybe 2b.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

2.07 - Chris Weidman

Weidman is just like Sonnen... except Weidman will finish guys and not get submitted. He'll be a staple of the division for years to come and of the upcoming title fights, probably has the best chance at an upset IMO.

Man... I went back and forth between him and two other. Probably typed and deleted 1000 words.

 

[hooter311]

2.07 - Chris WeidmanWeidman is just like Sonnen... except Weidman will finish guys and not get submitted. He'll be a staple of the division for years to come and of the upcoming title fights, probably has the best chance at an upset IMO. Man... I went back and forth between him and two other. Probably typed and deleted 1000 words.

Considered him as well, this pick will look a lot better after he beats Anderson.

 

[modogg]

I have to run a meeting in about 15 mins so these will be quick. Picking after the obvious choices is tough1.10 Anthony pettis2.1 Rhonda rouseyI know we don't have a category for women but this is my try here. If it doesn't hold up ill make my other pick early afternoon and I hope showtime isn't a reach, was hard to figure where he would go. Owning a win over bendo sold me

BTW, what weightclass do you want Pettis in?

I'll make him a 145'er. One of the reasons I chose him so early though is because I think he can be at the too of 2 divisions making him more valuable. Like the Cormier pick.

 

[modogg]

2.07 - Chris WeidmanWeidman is just like Sonnen... except Weidman will finish guys and not get submitted. He'll be a staple of the division for years to come and of the upcoming title fights, probably has the best chance at an upset IMO. Man... I went back and forth between him and two other. Probably typed and deleted 1000 words.

Considered him as well, this pick will look a lot better after he beats Anderson.

This is where evaluating the draft will be interesting. Who is more valuable, machida or Weidman? If Weidman wins he certainly beats machida here but for right now I may think machida is more valuable. He is maybe more exciting and can have better match ups for you. But figuring out the criteria to figure out which is a better pick will be interesting. The highlight ko's of randy and rashad I think are what puts machida as more valuable for me

 

[Cliff Clavin]

2.07 - Chris WeidmanWeidman is just like Sonnen... except Weidman will finish guys and not get submitted. He'll be a staple of the division for years to come and of the upcoming title fights, probably has the best chance at an upset IMO. Man... I went back and forth between him and two other. Probably typed and deleted 1000 words.

Considered him as well, this pick will look a lot better after he beats Anderson.

This is where evaluating the draft will be interesting. Who is more valuable, machida or Weidman? If Weidman wins he certainly beats machida here but for right now I may think machida is more valuable. He is maybe more exciting and can have better match ups for you. But figuring out the criteria to figure out which is a better pick will be interesting. The highlight ko's of randy and rashad I think are what puts machida as more valuable for me

So many ways to look at it. LHW is so deep that a top MW like Weidman >>> Machida. Name value/highlights? Machida. Age? Weidman. Overall talent?

 

[modogg]

2.07 - Chris WeidmanWeidman is just like Sonnen... except Weidman will finish guys and not get submitted. He'll be a staple of the division for years to come and of the upcoming title fights, probably has the best chance at an upset IMO. Man... I went back and forth between him and two other. Probably typed and deleted 1000 words.

Considered him as well, this pick will look a lot better after he beats Anderson.

This is where evaluating the draft will be interesting. Who is more valuable, machida or Weidman? If Weidman wins he certainly beats machida here but for right now I may think machida is more valuable. He is maybe more exciting and can have better match ups for you. But figuring out the criteria to figure out which is a better pick will be interesting. The highlight ko's of randy and rashad I think are what puts machida as more valuable for me

So many ways to look at it. LHW is so deep that a top MW like Weidman >>> Machida. Name value/highlights? Machida. Age? Weidman. Overall talent?

Exactly. Age may be a big one too. Right now ahrn can keep the doors open to his league for about 2 more months before he has all retired fighters. Also interesting to figure out the name value and draw of certain fighters. Being able to put on exciting fights would have to be something to weigh in the decision too, and actually both guys here can do that.

 

[hooter311]

2.07 - Chris WeidmanWeidman is just like Sonnen... except Weidman will finish guys and not get submitted. He'll be a staple of the division for years to come and of the upcoming title fights, probably has the best chance at an upset IMO. Man... I went back and forth between him and two other. Probably typed and deleted 1000 words.

Considered him as well, this pick will look a lot better after he beats Anderson.

This is where evaluating the draft will be interesting. Who is more valuable, machida or Weidman? If Weidman wins he certainly beats machida here but for right now I may think machida is more valuable. He is maybe more exciting and can have better match ups for you. But figuring out the criteria to figure out which is a better pick will be interesting. The highlight ko's of randy and rashad I think are what puts machida as more valuable for me

So many ways to look at it. LHW is so deep that a top MW like Weidman >>> Machida. Name value/highlights? Machida. Age? Weidman. Overall talent?

From a betting prospective, Machida would be favored right over any LHW in the world not named Jon Jones. I think Weidman would be favored over anyone at MW right now not named Anderson Silva

 

[bonesman]

Big Nog

 

[kutta]

Big Nog

Good pick. He was on my short list.I'm gonna think for a few, but I'll pick within the hour.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

2.07 - Chris WeidmanWeidman is just like Sonnen... except Weidman will finish guys and not get submitted. He'll be a staple of the division for years to come and of the upcoming title fights, probably has the best chance at an upset IMO. Man... I went back and forth between him and two other. Probably typed and deleted 1000 words.

Considered him as well, this pick will look a lot better after he beats Anderson.

This is where evaluating the draft will be interesting. Who is more valuable, machida or Weidman? If Weidman wins he certainly beats machida here but for right now I may think machida is more valuable. He is maybe more exciting and can have better match ups for you. But figuring out the criteria to figure out which is a better pick will be interesting. The highlight ko's of randy and rashad I think are what puts machida as more valuable for me

So many ways to look at it. LHW is so deep that a top MW like Weidman >>> Machida. Name value/highlights? Machida. Age? Weidman. Overall talent?

From a betting prospective, Machida would be favored right over any LHW in the world not named Jon Jones. I think Weidman would be favored over anyone at MW right now not named Anderson Silva

Machida closed around +400 while Weidman is sitting around +165.

 

[kutta]

2.07 - Chris WeidmanWeidman is just like Sonnen... except Weidman will finish guys and not get submitted. He'll be a staple of the division for years to come and of the upcoming title fights, probably has the best chance at an upset IMO. Man... I went back and forth between him and two other. Probably typed and deleted 1000 words.

Considered him as well, this pick will look a lot better after he beats Anderson.

This is where evaluating the draft will be interesting. Who is more valuable, machida or Weidman? If Weidman wins he certainly beats machida here but for right now I may think machida is more valuable. He is maybe more exciting and can have better match ups for you. But figuring out the criteria to figure out which is a better pick will be interesting. The highlight ko's of randy and rashad I think are what puts machida as more valuable for me

So many ways to look at it. LHW is so deep that a top MW like Weidman >>> Machida. Name value/highlights? Machida. Age? Weidman. Overall talent?

From a betting prospective, Machida would be favored right over any LHW in the world not named Jon Jones. I think Weidman would be favored over anyone at MW right now not named Anderson Silva

Machida closed around +400 while Weidman is sitting around +165.

I like Weidman and all, but give me Anderson all day at those numbers.

 

[EYLive]

Even if Weidman can't beat Silva, he may still get another title shot if the championship is vacated if/when Silva gets bored and retires, right?

 

[hooter311]

Even if Weidman can't beat Silva, he may still get another title shot if the championship is vacated if/when Silva gets bored and retires, right?

Oh for sure, his career arch should still be trending up over the next 3-4 years.

 

[kutta]

Well, I thought long and hard about this one. Here's my logic.

The cream of the crop of current fighters is taken already, and there really isn't a whole lot of difference between lots of guys right now. The only place I see some top talent still on the board is in the retired/HOF category, so that's where I'm going.

I'll take the guy with 45 career wins, and 9 wins in title fights. The guy many consider the greatest champion ever. And, in a way, he pairs very nicely with my first round pick.

Matt Hughes

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Even if Weidman can't beat Silva, he may still get another title shot if the championship is vacated if/when Silva gets bored and retires, right?

Absolutely. MW is a very weak division right now and Weidman is securely entrenched in the #2 spot until Silva leaves. I do think once Silva leaves, the division will get quite good. You'll get a bunch of guys dropping from LWH (Machida and Evans have been rumored lately) and a few guys stepping up from WW.ETA: I think LHW will see a decline in the coming years as long as Jones sticks around. Who is going to want to fight at LHW when their prize is to get a beating from Jones and remaining obscure, when they could drop to MW and not have to face a truly dominant fighter?

 

[Possum]

Well, I thought long and hard about this one. Here's my logic.The cream of the crop of current fighters is taken already, and there really isn't a whole lot of difference between lots of guys right now. The only place I see some top talent still on the board is in the retired/HOF category, so that's where I'm going.I'll take the guy with 45 career wins, and 9 wins in title fights. The guy many consider the greatest champion ever. And, in a way, he pairs very nicely with my first round pick.Matt Hughes

solid value I also like Cliff's pick and actually considered him pretty hard at 2.05 - was hoping he'd fall into the third though.

 

[EYLive]

Was Tanner PM'd? Someone drag him away from his cat photos for a second to make some picks.

I can also take lists for those that know they'll be away for a while.

 

[kutta]

Was Tanner PM'd? Someone drag him away from his cat photos for a second to make some picks.I can also take lists for those that know they'll be away for a while.

I forgot to do it earlier. Just sent one.

 

[EYLive]

Was Tanner PM'd? Someone drag him away from his cat photos for a second to make some picks.I can also take lists for those that know they'll be away for a while.

I forgot to do it earlier. Just sent one.

Lets give him to the top of the hour to pick. After that kutta can go and Officer Pete can make up his picks when he's available.

 

[kutta]

Was Tanner PM'd? Someone drag him away from his cat photos for a second to make some picks.I can also take lists for those that know they'll be away for a while.

I forgot to do it earlier. Just sent one.

Lets give him to the top of the hour to pick. After that kutta can go and Officer Pete can make up his picks when he's available.

Well, the top of the hour has come and gone. I'm at the airport boarding a plane for Vegas. I'll be gone for a few days, but will have Internet access. Just letting you all know my picks might be a bit slow - not "Tanner slow," but a little slower than usual.My pick:I'm sticking with my HOF picks, because it's where I still see value. Royce Gracie - thought about making him my first overall pick. Without him, I suspect this sport would look much different, and it may not even be around. He won UFC 1, 2, and 4, with no weight classes. Pretty impressive.

 

[EYLive]

I had a feeling Royce would be gone before my round 3 pick.

 

[JNox3]

I'm not in this draft so I guess I don't understand it. I can't figure out why a retired fighter hasn't already been picked.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

2.10 RET/HOF Chuck Liddell

3.01 WW: Ben Askren

 

[scoobus]

I'm not in this draft so I guess I don't understand it. I can't figure out why a retired fighter hasn't already been picked.

Poor reading comprehension?

 

[JNox3]

I'm not in this draft so I guess I don't understand it. I can't figure out why a retired fighter hasn't already been picked.

Poor reading comprehension?

Poor drafting apparently.

 

[modogg]

Man, it is dreadful being at the ends of the draft on this one. Sooo long between making picks.

And i got my Fighter's Only magazine yesterday, they have an article of the top 100 MMA fighters of all time. Game, set, match!!!