MNF**Las Vegas at Kansas City** (-7.5) (52) (1 Viewer)

[rockaction]

Unwatchable league. Jai-alai. Only reason to watch is gambling or fantasy, and that's becoming suspect with these calls.

 

[GroveDiesel]

As a Bills fan, I’m super excited to see that the league seems to be all in invested in Buffalo being the favorite this year.

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

terrible call. but from the vantage point of where the ref was standing, understandable. two of them viewing the play from Jones's backside so no way they saw the fumble or the fact that he put his left hand down not to fall on Carr.

 

[General Malaise]

I just live bet KC +185 for a bunch. That call is going to galvanize the Chiefs to a win.

 

[Todem]

So you are no longer alowed to sack the QB????

Nope….flag…sacking the QB 15 yards. Automatic 1st down.

 

[General Malaise]

terrible call. but from the vantage point of where the ref was standing, understandable. two of them viewing the play from Jones's backside so no way they saw the fumble or the fact that he put his left hand down not to fall on Carr.

No, not understandable. At all.

 

[scottybo]

59 yards from a 2nd week kicker. Wow. Nice! May have been good from 59 feet 10 inches.

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

what were the fans chanting right before that kick?

 

[Ben & Jerry's]

Carr wasn't even a passer when Jones landed on him , he was a tackler!

 

[The Big Donkey]

Unwatchable league. Jai-alai. Only reason to watch is gambling or fantasy, and that's becoming suspect with these calls.

my go to IPA. cigar city for the win.

 

[CGRdrJoe]

If I'm a defensive lineman, I might decide to get my money's worth.

that’ll never happen, they are on opposing teams today but could be on the same team tomorrow. it’s not the qb’s fault that the refs are throwing these flags it’s the owners making the real money not wanting their bread makers getting hurt

 

[Pip's Invitation]

59 yards from a 1st day on the job kicker. Wow. Nice! May have been good from 59 feet 10 inches.

The Chiefs probably win Week 3 if they have him instead of Ammendola.

 

[elbowrm]

what were the fans chanting right before that kick?

Let’s go brandon

 

[ZADO]

Now you KC fans know what its like to be a Raiders fan when the craziest calls go against them ...for decades

Sorry if i dont feel bad

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

So you are no longer alowed to sack the QB????

Nope….flag…sacking the QB 15 yards. Automatic 1st down.

Disparaging the flag is flaggable offense!

 

[elbowrm]

They may need to call in the national guard at the half.

 

[Don Quixote]

Man, Matthew Perry was pissed.

Could I BE any more irate?

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

KC is incredibly lucky to only be trailing by 10

 

[NE_REVIVAL]

No dog in the fight, and maybe im alone but im tired of seeing 300 pound guys plant\land their full weight on qbs and broken collar bones, shoulders etc. Don't care if its Mahomes, Carr, Rodgers, Burrow or whoever, I want to see them play. I think the lg wants to see D lineman roll to one side or other on such plays and they aren't going to do it unless they call it. Reasonable minds can disagree, its all good. No comparison to the crap Brady call imho.

 

[scottybo]

@TomPelissero: Chris Jones just became the first player in NFL history called for roughing the passer while holding the ball.

 

[elbowrm]

********. What else was he supposed to do?

 

[Ghost Rider]

No dog in the fight, and maybe im alone but im tired of seeing 300 pound guys plant\land their full weight on qbs and broken collar bones, shoulders etc. Don't care if its Mahomes, Carr, Rodgers, Burrow or whoever, I want to see them play. I think the lg wants to see D lineman roll to one side or other on such plays and they aren't going to do it unless they call it. Reasonable minds can disagree, its all good. No comparison to the crap Brady call imho.

This was worse than the Brady call. Jones literally had the ball in his hands, so how can you rough the passer when he is no longer the passer? Not to mention that it's freaking football. Like Aikman said, might as well put dresses on them.

The league is a joke now.

 

[efactor]

No dog in the fight, and maybe im alone but im tired of seeing 300 pound guys plant\land their full weight on qbs and broken collar bones, shoulders etc. Don't care if its Mahomes, Carr, Rodgers, Burrow or whoever, I want to see them play. I think the lg wants to see D lineman roll to one side or other on such plays and they aren't going to do it unless they call it. Reasonable minds can disagree, its all good. No comparison to the crap Brady call imho.

Except in this case, he didn't plant his full weight and actually got his hand out to not put full weight. A perfect play on Jones part.

It exactly comparable to the BS Brady call.

 

[scottybo]

All penalties should be able to be challenged. The hell with time, lets get it right.

 

[CGRdrJoe]

No dog in the fight, and maybe im alone but im tired of seeing 300 pound guys plant\land their full weight on qbs and broken collar bones, shoulders etc. Don't care if its Mahomes, Carr, Rodgers, Burrow or whoever, I want to see them play. I think the lg wants to see D lineman roll to one side or other on such plays and they aren't going to do it unless they call it. Reasonable minds can disagree, its all good. No comparison to the crap Brady call imho.

This was worse than the Brady call. Jones literally had the ball in his hands, so how can you rough the passer when he is no longer the passer? Not to mention that it's freaking football. Like Aikman said, might as well put dresses on them.

The league is a joke now.

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[AAABatteries]

@TomPelissero: Chris Jones just became the first player in NFL history called for roughing the passer while holding the ball.

I wonder if Reid could challenge that is was a fumble and thus couldn’t be roughing??

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

All penalties should be able to be challenged. The hell with time, lets get it right.

i hate this idea, but it's the only logical way to get things right and calls like this should be reviewable somehow. it was that bad.

 

[ZADO]

No dog in the fight, and maybe im alone but im tired of seeing 300 pound guys plant\land their full weight on qbs and broken collar bones, shoulders etc. Don't care if its Mahomes, Carr, Rodgers, Burrow or whoever, I want to see them play. I think the lg wants to see D lineman roll to one side or other on such plays and they aren't going to do it unless they call it. Reasonable minds can disagree, its all good. No comparison to the crap Brady call imho.

This was worse than the Brady call. Jones literally had the ball in his hands, so how can you rough the passer when he is no longer the passer? Not to mention that it's freaking football. Like Aikman said, might as well put dresses on them.

The league is a joke now.

Can you land on the quarterback?


When tackling a passer who is in a defenseless posture (e.g., during or just after throwing a pass), a defensive player must not unnecessarily or violently throw him down or land on top of him with all or most of the defender's weight.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

After all the Huffing and Puffing and being personally offended watching the personal foul roughing the passer overturn the play.

Jones strip sacked Carr and recovered the football on the way down, it should have been the Chiefs ball 1st Down in Raiders territory after scoring a TD to cut the lead to 10 and possibly cutting it further to say 17-14 at the Half vs 20-10.

Just want to make sure we go beyond the egregious call itself and what it prevented from happening.

Are either QB in concussion protocol with all these big hits?

 

[crushedspirit]

Jones did everything to ensure he didn't put all his weight on Carr, so please don't even try to justify that abomination of a call.

 

[eoMMan]

I’ve always wondered… does Carr wear eye liner or some other sort of eye make up?
(NTTAWWT)

 

[Capella]

No dog in the fight, and maybe im alone but im tired of seeing 300 pound guys plant\land their full weight on qbs and broken collar bones, shoulders etc. Don't care if its Mahomes, Carr, Rodgers, Burrow or whoever, I want to see them play. I think the lg wants to see D lineman roll to one side or other on such plays and they aren't going to do it unless they call it. Reasonable minds can disagree, its all good. No comparison to the crap Brady call imho.

I agree. QBs are too valuable. Everybody wants to see the big hits but then you are watching Chad Henne lead your team to 6 points a game. Just change the rule to wrapping up the QBs, admit they are too valuable to the product and let’s move on.

 

[stlrams]

Should just require two hand touch to sack the QB if that is roughing

No dog in the fight, and maybe im alone but im tired of seeing 300 pound guys plant\land their full weight on qbs and broken collar bones, shoulders etc. Don't care if its Mahomes, Carr, Rodgers, Burrow or whoever, I want to see them play. I think the lg wants to see D lineman roll to one side or other on such plays and they aren't going to do it unless they call it. Reasonable minds can disagree, its all good. No comparison to the crap Brady call imho.

Should just put flags on QB at this point.

 

[dickey moe]

I needed 5 pts from Waller tonight to get the win. THANKS FOR EVERYTHING

 

[CGRdrJoe]

After all the Huffing and Puffing and being personally offended watching the personal foul roughing the passer overturn the play.

Jones strip sacked Carr and recovered the football on the way down, it should have been the Chiefs ball 1st Down in Raiders territory after scoring a TD to cut the lead to 10 and possibly cutting it further to say 17-14 at the Half vs 20-10.

Just want to make sure we go beyond the egregious call itself and what it prevented from happening.

Are either QB in concussion protocol with all these big hits?

carr’s leg landed on top of his so he would have been down at the spot of the fumble

 

[ZADO]

well there`s your make up call boys ...happy now?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

After all the Huffing and Puffing and being personally offended watching the personal foul roughing the passer overturn the play.

Jones strip sacked Carr and recovered the football on the way down, it should have been the Chiefs ball 1st Down in Raiders territory after scoring a TD to cut the lead to 10 and possibly cutting it further to say 17-14 at the Half vs 20-10.

Just want to make sure we go beyond the egregious call itself and what it prevented from happening.

Are either QB in concussion protocol with all these big hits?

carr’s leg landed on top of his so he would have been down at the spot of the fumble

That would have been about the 35 yd line of Vegas?

 

[Mister CIA]

@TomPelissero: Chris Jones just became the first player in NFL history called for roughing the passer while holding the ball.

I wonder if Reid could challenge that is was a fumble and thus couldn’t be roughing??

I was wondering why it couldn't be both. Possession changed before the roughing.

 

[efactor]

well there`s your make up call boys ...happy now?

The obvious defensive holding call?

 

[efactor]

Helaire just isn't a good RB. Well, unless he has a massive hole to run through

 

[AAABatteries]

No dog in the fight, and maybe im alone but im tired of seeing 300 pound guys plant\land their full weight on qbs and broken collar bones, shoulders etc. Don't care if its Mahomes, Carr, Rodgers, Burrow or whoever, I want to see them play. I think the lg wants to see D lineman roll to one side or other on such plays and they aren't going to do it unless they call it. Reasonable minds can disagree, its all good. No comparison to the crap Brady call imho.

I agree. QBs are too valuable. Everybody wants to see the big hits but then you are watching Chad Henne lead your team to 6 points a game. Just change the rule to wrapping up the QBs, admit they are too valuable to the product and let’s move on.

The only way that really works is if the QB can’t run after dropping back to pass, which I don’t think would ever fly.

 

[travdogg]

No idea why you aren't doubling Kelce there

 

[AAABatteries]

@TomPelissero: Chris Jones just became the first player in NFL history called for roughing the passer while holding the ball.

I wonder if Reid could challenge that is was a fumble and thus couldn’t be roughing??

I was wondering why it couldn't be both. Possession changed before the roughing.

After the fumble wouldn’t it just be unnecessary roughness? I’d be ok with that although here that’s still BS as the guy didn’t rough anybody.

 

[ZADO]

Its just too easy...Mahomes to Kelce

 

[Capella]

No dog in the fight, and maybe im alone but im tired of seeing 300 pound guys plant\land their full weight on qbs and broken collar bones, shoulders etc. Don't care if its Mahomes, Carr, Rodgers, Burrow or whoever, I want to see them play. I think the lg wants to see D lineman roll to one side or other on such plays and they aren't going to do it unless they call it. Reasonable minds can disagree, its all good. No comparison to the crap Brady call imho.

I agree. QBs are too valuable. Everybody wants to see the big hits but then you are watching Chad Henne lead your team to 6 points a game. Just change the rule to wrapping up the QBs, admit they are too valuable to the product and let’s move on.

The only way that really works is if the QB can’t run after dropping back to pass, which I don’t think would ever fly.

Maybe while in the pocket? I don’t know. But this ain’t it either. They have to make things clearer.

 

[NE_REVIVAL]

No dog in the fight, and maybe im alone but im tired of seeing 300 pound guys plant\land their full weight on qbs and broken collar bones, shoulders etc. Don't care if its Mahomes, Carr, Rodgers, Burrow or whoever, I want to see them play. I think the lg wants to see D lineman roll to one side or other on such plays and they aren't going to do it unless they call it. Reasonable minds can disagree, its all good. No comparison to the crap Brady call imho.

This was worse than the Brady call. Jones literally had the ball in his hands, so how can you rough the passer when he is no longer the passer? Not to mention that it's freaking football. Like Aikman said, might as well put dresses on them.

The league is a joke now.

Can you land on the quarterback?


When tackling a passer who is in a defenseless posture (e.g., during or just after throwing a pass), a defensive player must not unnecessarily or violently throw him down or land on top of him with all or most of the defender's weight.

Thats how I saw it, I thought he came down on Carr with all his weight and thats what they called. For those claiming he braced with his arms, thats not at all how I saw it and the ball coming out simultaneously is irrelevant. Again, I know i'm in the minority here and thats fine, I don't like either team one way or the other, just how I saw it. It's all good, reasonable minds can disagree.

 

[stlrams]

Unwatchable league. Jai-alai. Only reason to watch is gambling or fantasy, and that's becoming suspect with these calls.

Having grown up n Milford, I lived at jai-Alai for a number of years and even played at the amateur level for sometime. Great game to play.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Honestly, I am not sure why any team runs the ball with any frequency anymore. Might as well throw all day since you can't breathe on a QB without the official reaching for the flag.

 

[CGRdrJoe]

now they are going to over ref on the raiders

 

[stlrams]

Its just too easy...Mahomes to Kelce

Don’t get how you don’t double/triple cover him...