Mock 2006 FF Draft (1 Viewer)

[facook]

Your saying LT fades because of one year. Last year he was a monster down the stretch and helped me to 2 league titles.  This statement of him fading has absolutely zero basis at this point. I think the rib injury and teams stacking the line against him is more the reason.

LT = #1 in redrafts.

Why?The only reason he's even second in PPG this year, is because LJ was getting very limited PT before taking over. Basically, LT is third in PPG this year, behind LJ and SA. Alexander is a full 1.6 points (about six percent) ahead of LT in PPG this year.

Last year, LT was 2nd in PPG behind Priest, and 0.01 PPG ahead of Alexander (but played one fewer game).

LT's gotten hurt the past two years (Alexander, LJ have not), and defenses have solved LT at times this year.

So, why is LT automatic?

I'm not saying LT is much below SA or LJ. You can make a decent case for all three. However, it's not even close to automatic, and I personally like the other two better, given the stats this year, last year, and their situations going into next year.

LJ has not had the full load of starting an entire year. That is the one major question I have against him. He is dominate when he plays.So really to me it is between SA and LT.

I choose LT because he is a little bit younger and feel that the offense is more balanced now with Brees.

And that's a fair argument. Like I said, you can make a good one for all three.But, saying LT's an indisputable #1 isn't correct, IMO. There's no automatic #1 this year.

I'm a big LT supporter, but to ignore the situations LJ and SA are in (assuming they stay the same) is foolish. A lot depends on what happens with the OL's of all 3 teams, but right now I'd probably draft LT #3.

I want the #3 pick next year. Money slot!

 

[Chaz]

Nice write up It looks like someone can pick in the top four, and get one of the big four RBs, then Gates, then RANDY MOSS in the THIRD?! If you believe that Moss will rebound, that would be a pretty good start!

 

[Keys Myaths]

Plus, if you're not going to look at past statistics at all, how are you going to determine who's going to be good next year?

Situation...talent level...opportunity...

Yep. All three of those should be a consideration, and previous performance can give you good clues into all three.

 

[perry147]

someone else already said it but nice thread Keys, I might not agree 100% with the order but you have solid reasons why you are ranking them the way you have.

 

[wannabee]

yes. great thread keys, esp for a mizzou guy

 

[Keys Myaths]

yes. great thread keys, esp for a mizzou guy

The Illinois game was embarassing. Flat out embarassing.

 

[wannabee]

yes.  great thread keys, esp for a mizzou guy

The Illinois game was embarassing. Flat out embarassing.

the funny part is that the mizzou people used to say "just wait until basketball season". now, it is more of a "wait until fly fishing season in the ozarks". how about quinn? :endhijack:

 

[Keys Myaths]

yes. great thread keys, esp for a mizzou guy

The Illinois game was embarassing. Flat out embarassing.

the funny part is that the mizzou people used to say "just wait until basketball season". now, it is more of a "wait until fly fishing season in the ozarks". how about quinn? :endhijack:

Check your PM in a sec. We'll continue this there.

 

[Donnybrook]

2.08: Reuben Droughns, RB, Cleveland



Assumptions: None

I’m assuming that Romeo and Savage continue to replace Davis draft picks and let Green and/or Suggs go. Reuben may have different competition next year.

 

[Keys Myaths]

2.08: Reuben Droughns, RB, Cleveland



Assumptions: None

I’m assuming that Romeo and Savage continue to replace Davis draft picks and let Green and/or Suggs go. Reuben may have different competition next year.

Good points.

 

[Keys Myaths]

Your saying LT fades because of one year. Last year he was a monster down the stretch and helped me to 2 league titles. This statement of him fading has absolutely zero basis at this point. I think the rib injury and teams stacking the line against him is more the reason.

LT = #1 in redrafts.

Why?The only reason he's even second in PPG this year, is because LJ was getting very limited PT before taking over. Basically, LT is third in PPG this year, behind LJ and SA. Alexander is a full 1.6 points (about six percent) ahead of LT in PPG this year.

Last year, LT was 2nd in PPG behind Priest, and 0.01 PPG ahead of Alexander (but played one fewer game).

LT's gotten hurt the past two years (Alexander, LJ have not), and defenses have solved LT at times this year.

So, why is LT automatic?

I'm not saying LT is much below SA or LJ. You can make a decent case for all three. However, it's not even close to automatic, and I personally like the other two better, given the stats this year, last year, and their situations going into next year.

LJ has not had the full load of starting an entire year. That is the one major question I have against him. He is dominate when he plays.So really to me it is between SA and LT.

I choose LT because he is a little bit younger and feel that the offense is more balanced now with Brees.

And that's a fair argument. Like I said, you can make a good one for all three.But, saying LT's an indisputable #1 isn't correct, IMO. There's no automatic #1 this year.

I'm a big LT supporter, but to ignore the situations LJ and SA are in (assuming they stay the same) is foolish. A lot depends on what happens with the OL's of all 3 teams, but right now I'd probably draft LT #3.

I want the #3 pick next year. Money slot!

Any of the top 3 picks are golden next year, *especially* the third, because that sets you up really well for the second round. This draft looks really top-heavy.

 

[Keys Myaths]

Third round has been added...and I'm realizing how very tough this is all getting!

 

[Keys Myaths]

If you believe that Moss will rebound, that would be a pretty good start!

As you can see in my third round, I'm really torn about Moss. Nobody can like his injury history the past few years, and he really mailed it in this year after coming back from his time away.He's very, very scary.

 

[s_ezy]

If you believe that Moss will rebound, that would be a pretty good start!

As you can see in my third round, I'm really torn about Moss. Nobody can like his injury history the past few years, and he really mailed it in this year after coming back from his time away.He's very, very scary.

reminds me of the TO situation on draft day this yearyou KNOW when he plays hard he puts up the points, but will he play? and for how many weeks will that be for?

to many uncertainties with Moss for him to drafted any higher IMO

i.e. who will be throwing to Moss in 2006?

 

[lebowski]

If you believe that Moss will rebound, that would be a pretty good start!

As you can see in my third round, I'm really torn about Moss. Nobody can like his injury history the past few years, and he really mailed it in this year after coming back from his time away.He's very, very scary.

One of those guys who could win you a championship in the third round.

 

[Keys Myaths]

If you believe that Moss will rebound, that would be a pretty good start!

As you can see in my third round, I'm really torn about Moss. Nobody can like his injury history the past few years, and he really mailed it in this year after coming back from his time away.He's very, very scary.

One of those guys who could win you a championship in the third round.

Any of the guys in this third round *could* win you a championship. There's very high potential all over it.

 

[Keys Myaths]

If you believe that Moss will rebound, that would be a pretty good start!

As you can see in my third round, I'm really torn about Moss. Nobody can like his injury history the past few years, and he really mailed it in this year after coming back from his time away.He's very, very scary.

reminds me of the TO situation on draft day this yearyou KNOW when he plays hard he puts up the points, but will he play? and for how many weeks will that be for?

to many uncertainties with Moss for him to drafted any higher IMO

i.e. who will be throwing to Moss in 2006?

I think the last question is extremely important...Moss needs to feel like the #1 part of the offense if he's going to succeed again, and I don't think he feels that way with Collins under center.

 

[stbugs]

Random thoughts on the second round:

I'd take Chad Johnson over Steve Smith.  I just don't think it's sustainable for Smith to make up such a large % of the passing game.

I seem to recall some questions as to whether Westbrook will be 100% for the start of the next season.  I think he has to drop into the third round.

I don't like Boldin this high because of (1) QB questions and (2) Larry Fitzgerald.

Depending in part on what happens with Ricky, I like Ronnie Brown in the second round.  He's talented, he can catch the ball, and Saban is going to have that team on the upswing.  Assumption: Miami gets a solid QB for next season.

Funny how much of the second round has turned over, with J. Jones, K. Jones, J. Lewis, etc. dropping based on lack of performance this year.

I disagree. The #1 WR in Carolina has been in the top 3 in scoring the past 3 years (I think).

The WR in Carolina has been #1 the last 2 years, but in 2003 Steve Smith was #15 and Mushin was #33. There is definitely still some risk with Steve Smith next year because the only reason, actually reason #2 behind TO gettin hurt in 2004 and suspended in 2005, Smith and Muhammed were #1 was because Delhomme was locked on them more than any QB in the league.Carolina is #16 in the league in passing yardage, yet Steve Smith is #1 in WR yardage and he is 154 yards better than CJ who is #2 in yardage. Steve Smith is also #2 in TDs (1 behind Harrison) and has caught more than 50% of the TDs. I won't run stats on any other teams, but I would think the difference between him and the #2 receiver on his team is far greater than any team in the league and probably any team in a the past few years. The 2nd receiver on Carolina has over 1055 less yards and 9 less TDs on a team that only has 3000 yards and 20TDs passing. That is astonishing to me.

Steve Smith could very well continue his unbelievable streak into 2006, but god forbid his team gets a quality #2 WR or a decent running game and there is no way he can match 2005 because he won't have the opportunities. He is a fantastic receiver, but he has no help at all on offense.

 

[jurb26]

Nice thread. I'll comment on your picks, which I happen to like a lot.1.01 SA, right on the guy is a machine and in a prime position.1.02 LJ, I agree, being in KC and having far less milage gives him edge over LT..1.03 LT, still has all the talent and a great supporting cast.1.04 Edge, yeah so long as he is in Indy I don't see why not.1.05 Jordan, bit high IMO I like both Portis and Rudi better.1.06 Portis, Wash has completed the turn around on O.1.07 Barber, I worry about guys as old as him this high.1.08 Rudi, would ideally move him up 2 spots.1.09 S.Smith, as the top WR I understand the rank but doubt he gets taken this high.1.10 R.Bush, ballsy move but in the right situation Bush will be amazing. Hou looks like a great place for him fantasy wise.1.11 Manning, about where the top QB should go.1.12 S.Jackson, I'm a bit unsure about the coaching but who can you put ahead of him?2.01 Caddy, needs to prove he can stay healthy or coaches need to learn how to use him better for me to take him this high.2.02 McGahee, if Buf makes the right changes he could be a steal here.2.03 TO, don't even know what to say here. If he plays yeah, looks about right.2.04 T.Jones, why did they draft Benson again?2.05 Westy, will Moats steal touches? I think so so my downgrade him a bit here.2.06 Palmer, I would find it VERY dificult to drat him over the likes of some of the WR still available.2.07 C.Johnson, nice spot for him.2.08 Droughns, yeah, he will find the endzone more next year.2.09 Holt, sure thing in the late 2nd.2.10 Dillon, has age cought up?2.11 Boldin, I like Fitz more but is there really a fantasy difference anyway?2.12 Gates, he will go here at the latest IMO.3.01 Harrison, Still has it.3.02 McNabb, not sure I take him this high w/o TO.3.03 Fitz, like him over Harrison.3.04 J.Jones, worried about the other backs in Dal much like I was last year.3.05 DJax, he will fall too far in drafts thanks to the injury.3.06 M.Anderson, this is a nightmare.3.07 Dunn, still seems to have it, but I wouldn't take him this high.3.08 Ward, No way I take him over Moss, either of them!3.09 R.Moss, will be a steal at this point much like 3 years ago. This may in fact be the palyer that wins several leagues for people.3.10 A.Green, I don't feel good about this pick in the least.3.11 R.Brown, yes he is the much better RB in Mia.3.12 J.Lewis, could bounce back like A.Green a few years ago.Guys who very well should be on the list IMO:Bulger, I would take him over McNabb I think.S.Moss, how is he NOT in the 1st 3 rounds?Burress, in NY with Manning this guy is a much better player.Chambers, with a QB he could sneak up drafts.Bell, the Bell vs. Anderson debate will be in full force yet again.K.Jones, with new coaches and scheme he can be a monster... of course he needs to stay healthy as well.

 

[jurb26]

Your saying LT fades because of one year. Last year he was a monster down the stretch and helped me to 2 league titles. This statement of him fading has absolutely zero basis at this point. I think the rib injury and teams stacking the line against him is more the reason.

Putting LT, a guy who has not once finished as the #1 player and RB, at 3 is not really saying he fades. Your right, the statement of him fading does have no basis especially when the guy in question has only finished higher than the said position once in his career and averages a finish of 3.6 over the 5 year span. He is not saying LT fades, you've just been mislead to think that LT was a concensous and no brainer #1 overall player the past 2 years.

 

[Keys Myaths]

Guys who very well should be on the list IMO:

Bulger, I would take him over McNabb I think.

S.Moss, how is he NOT in the 1st 3 rounds?

Burress, in NY with Manning this guy is a much better player.

Chambers, with a QB he could sneak up drafts.

Bell, the Bell vs. Anderson debate will be in full force yet again.

K.Jones, with new coaches and scheme he can be a monster... of course he needs to stay healthy as well.

Fantastic post, jurb...I'll take a lot of it into account when I shuffle these around a bit next week.So, I'll respond to these:

Bulger: Dude gets hurt too often for my taste. If I'm taking a QB in the first couple of rounds, I want someone who has been relatively injury-free. I'll slide one or two injuries (McNabb), but not two in the same season.

Moss: He's 12th in PPG this year. That simple. It's not his time to go off the board yet. There's receivers who have done it better, and done it for a lot longer than Santana who I've taken so far.

Burress: Yes, he is, but he's still inconsistent. See Santana Moss. Plaxico is 15th in PPG. There are a lot of better, more consistently good receivers ahead of him.

Chambers: He's one of the next receivers to go, but again, this is his first year to be good, and he's still not *that* good. He's 11th in PPG, and he's had a breakout year, at that.

Bell: He'll go a little later. I just don't think he'll ever get 20 carries a game, and until you get that, you get his results (28th in PPG)

Kevin Jones=Kevan Barlow. He needs a *lot* of things to change in Detroit before he can be a 3rd round pick or higher. Barlow was 32nd in his disappointing 2004, averaging 9.69 points per game. Kevin Jones is 34th this year, averaging 8.28 PPG.

Plus, Jones was only 26th in PPG last year. He never should've gone that high *this* year.

 

[jurb26]

Guys who very well should be on the list IMO:

Bulger, I would take him over McNabb I think.

S.Moss, how is he NOT in the 1st 3 rounds?

Burress, in NY with Manning this guy is a much better player.

Chambers, with a QB he could sneak up drafts.

Bell, the Bell vs. Anderson debate will be in full force yet again.

K.Jones, with new coaches and scheme he can be a monster... of course he needs to stay healthy as well.

Fantastic post, jurb...I'll take a lot of it into account when I shuffle these around a bit next week.So, I'll respond to these:

Bulger: Dude gets hurt too often for my taste. If I'm taking a QB in the first couple of rounds, I want someone who has been relatively injury-free. I'll slide one or two injuries (McNabb), but not two in the same season.

Moss: He's 12th in PPG this year. That simple. It's not his time to go off the board yet. There's receivers who have done it better, and done it for a lot longer than Santana who I've taken so far.

Burress: Yes, he is, but he's still inconsistent. See Santana Moss. Plaxico is 15th in PPG. There are a lot of better, more consistently good receivers ahead of him.

Chambers: He's one of the next receivers to go, but again, this is his first year to be good, and he's still not *that* good. He's 11th in PPG, and he's had a breakout year, at that.

Bell: He'll go a little later. I just don't think he'll ever get 20 carries a game, and until you get that, you get his results (28th in PPG)

Kevin Jones=Kevan Barlow. He needs a *lot* of things to change in Detroit before he can be a 3rd round pick or higher. Barlow was 32nd in his disappointing 2004, averaging 9.69 points per game. Kevin Jones is 34th this year, averaging 8.28 PPG.

Plus, Jones was only 26th in PPG last year. He never should've gone that high *this* year.

Soryy, didn't mean to type SHOULD there. I meant to type COULD. I agree that all have the concerns you list, but with offseasons to come they could all have their value vualted into the top 3 rounds IMO.

 

[Keys Myaths]

Guys who very well should be on the list IMO:

Bulger, I would take him over McNabb I think.

S.Moss, how is he NOT in the 1st 3 rounds?

Burress, in NY with Manning this guy is a much better player.

Chambers, with a QB he could sneak up drafts.

Bell, the Bell vs. Anderson debate will be in full force yet again.

K.Jones, with new coaches and scheme he can be a monster... of course he needs to stay healthy as well.

Fantastic post, jurb...I'll take a lot of it into account when I shuffle these around a bit next week.So, I'll respond to these:

Bulger: Dude gets hurt too often for my taste. If I'm taking a QB in the first couple of rounds, I want someone who has been relatively injury-free. I'll slide one or two injuries (McNabb), but not two in the same season.

Moss: He's 12th in PPG this year. That simple. It's not his time to go off the board yet. There's receivers who have done it better, and done it for a lot longer than Santana who I've taken so far.

Burress: Yes, he is, but he's still inconsistent. See Santana Moss. Plaxico is 15th in PPG. There are a lot of better, more consistently good receivers ahead of him.

Chambers: He's one of the next receivers to go, but again, this is his first year to be good, and he's still not *that* good. He's 11th in PPG, and he's had a breakout year, at that.

Bell: He'll go a little later. I just don't think he'll ever get 20 carries a game, and until you get that, you get his results (28th in PPG)

Kevin Jones=Kevan Barlow. He needs a *lot* of things to change in Detroit before he can be a 3rd round pick or higher. Barlow was 32nd in his disappointing 2004, averaging 9.69 points per game. Kevin Jones is 34th this year, averaging 8.28 PPG.

Plus, Jones was only 26th in PPG last year. He never should've gone that high *this* year.

Soryy, didn't mean to type SHOULD there. I meant to type COULD. I agree that all have the concerns you list, but with offseasons to come they could all have their value vualted into the top 3 rounds IMO.

That's what'll make the offseason interesting. There's no way these hold up, just for the fact that transactions/player movement will kill this. But hey, it's fun for now.

 

[Keys Myaths]

Alright, fourth round added. Now that the playoffs are done, it might be an even better time to take an early look at this.Fifth round, plus major changes to the first four rounds may be coming soon. Please fire away, it'll only make these rankings better.

 

[Ears]

Excellent thread Keys - many thanks. Regarding SJax: The only comments I've seen in this thread address the coaching situation. I agree that who they bring in will have an impact. I think the larger issue is the Rams' OL. Pace has been good, but not great in '05. He also has a history of minor injuries. McCollum has been steady at C; Barron has looked like a rookie at RT - lots of promise some series, very raw others. The G play has really fallen off this year. Timmerman is showing his age, and Terrell does not appear to be the long term answer at LG. Even when the Rams 'committed' to the run this season they tended to struggle, especially late in the year.The changes STL makes on the OL will grreatly affect SJax' 2006 numbers. Right now, I couldn't pull the trigger on him late in the first - mid second, maybe.But as you said earlier, who would you put ahead of him?

 

[Keys Myaths]

Excellent thread Keys - many thanks.

Regarding SJax: The only comments I've seen in this thread address the coaching situation. I agree that who they bring in will have an impact. I think the larger issue is the Rams' OL.

Pace has been good, but not great in '05. He also has a history of minor injuries. McCollum has been steady at C; Barron has looked like a rookie at RT - lots of promise some series, very raw others. The G play has really fallen off this year. Timmerman is showing his age, and Terrell does not appear to be the long term answer at LG. Even when the Rams 'committed' to the run this season they tended to struggle, especially late in the year.

The changes STL makes on the OL will grreatly affect SJax' 2006 numbers. Right now, I couldn't pull the trigger on him late in the first - mid second, maybe.

But as you said earlier, who would you put ahead of him?

You're right about the OL. I guess my assumption there is that nothing changes as far as the OL is concerned.But yeah, he seems a little high...I'm going to revisit that one with the others.

 

[Bigtime]

Guys who very well should be on the list IMO:

Bulger, I would take him over McNabb I think.

S.Moss, how is he NOT in the 1st 3 rounds?

Burress, in NY with Manning this guy is a much better player.

Chambers, with a QB he could sneak up drafts.

Bell, the Bell vs. Anderson debate will be in full force yet again.

K.Jones, with new coaches and scheme he can be a monster... of course he needs to stay healthy as well.

Not sure why K. Jones could be a monster with Bryson and Pinner getting carries. But you are concerned about Julius Jones because of T. Thompson & M. Barber??? Seems like both backs have at least equal talent and opportunity.

 

[iSnitch]

I still don't know if I'd take Bulger that early. Martz won't be back and I doubt the team will throw as much. Marc has never made it through an entire season healthy-maybe he will if he doesn't throw 7 gazillion times per game but that's how he gets his points! I'd take Brady, Green, Brees, etc in the later rounds. I just don't see him going that soon.

 

[wannabee]

Keys.

 

[jurb26]

Not sure why K. Jones could be a monster with Bryson and Pinner getting carries. But you are concerned about Julius Jones because of T. Thompson & M. Barber??? Seems like both backs have at least equal talent and opportunity.

Well, I see the talent of Kevin as superior to that of Julius and I see the talent of the other backs in Dal as superior to that of the other backs in Det. If you disagree that's fine, but that is how I see it.

 

[Keys Myaths]

Alright, I moved quite a few players in the last week. Let me know what you disagree with, and who should be moved also. Anyone you think should be added?Fifth round coming later this week.

 

[Keys Myaths]

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[wannabee]

Bumped by request.

taking faxes like jwdwvwdwodohqdow now are we?

 

[Keys Myaths]

Bumped by request.

taking faxes like jwdwvwdwodohqdow now are we?

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...dpost&p=4101626

 

[wannabee]

Bumped by request.

taking faxes like jwdwvwdwodohqdow now are we?

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...dpost&p=4101626

only see one request, and by a five-digiter (jk, jeff) .Sorry, just busting chops tonite. How'bot them tigers?

Now, back on topic, how are the coaching changes going to influence the rankings? I see StL (Bulher, SJax, and Holt), Minn (Moore), and KC (LJ) having some positive/negative consequences.

 

[Keys Myaths]

Bumped by request.

taking faxes like jwdwvwdwodohqdow now are we?

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...dpost&p=4101626

only see one request, and by a five-digiter .Sorry, just busting chops tonite. How'bot them tigers?

Now, back on topic, how are the coaching changes going to influence the rankings? I see StL (Bulher, SJax, and Holt), Minn (Moore), and KC (LJ) having some positive/negative consequences.

I didn't say it was a fantastic request, just a request. Besides, Jeff's pretty underrated. *I'm* a five-digiter, remember.

And about the Tigers...I'm glad they won just to keep Pinkel around. He's very underrated and can take that team places.

And the coaching changes?

I see Jackson getting a slight bump...they're going to have to give him more carries, and he's been very streaky, but very good at times. I'll bump him up depending on who the new coach is. Bulger and Holt will probably get slight downgrades, but not much, since they will be still playing from behind a lot.

LJ might move down to #3. I'm still going to have to think about that one a bit.

And depending on who the new coach is, and the new scheme, Mewelde would definitely crack the end of the fourth round right now. I've always liked him...he's just never gotten the chance.

 

[wannabee]

Bumped by request.

taking faxes like jwdwvwdwodohqdow now are we?

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...dpost&p=4101626

only see one request, and by a five-digiter .Sorry, just busting chops tonite. How'bot them tigers?

Now, back on topic, how are the coaching changes going to influence the rankings? I see StL (Bulher, SJax, and Holt), Minn (Moore), and KC (LJ) having some positive/negative consequences.

I didn't say it was a fantastic request, just a request. Besides, Jeff's pretty underrated. *I'm* a five-digiter, remember.

And about the Tigers...I'm glad they won just to keep Pinkel around. He's very underrated and can take that team places.

And the coaching changes?

I see Jackson getting a slight bump...they're going to have to give him more carries, and he's been very streaky, but very good at times. I'll bump him up depending on who the new coach is. Bulger and Holt will probably get slight downgrades, but not much, since they will be still playing from behind a lot.

LJ might move down to #3. I'm still going to have to think about that one a bit.

And depending on who the new coach is, and the new scheme, Mewelde would definitely crack the end of the fourth round right now. I've always liked him...he's just never gotten the chance.

You and Jeff are good posters. My thinking on the coaching changes is that the biggest player movement (in August) will be in the mid-late round guys who benefit/drop due to philosophy.

Examples:

Isaac Bruce will probably be affected more by a coaching change than Holt.

Gonzo/Kennison might drop as much/more if OLine reitrements/Vermeil departure

Andre Johnson should benefit by the coaching change more than Davis, depending on the Bush situation of course.

MMoore might benefit by actually getting a legit opportunity in Minny due to the coaching change.

I submit that it will be these mid-late round players that will decide some championships, and some poor seasons, next year.

 

[Keys Myaths]

You and Jeff are good posters.

My thinking on the coaching changes is that the biggest player movement (in August) will be in the mid-late round guys who benefit/drop due to philosophy.

Examples:

Isaac Bruce will probably be affected more by a coaching change than Holt.

Gonzo/Kennison might drop as much/more if OLine reitrements/Vermeil departure

Andre Johnson should benefit by the coaching change more than Davis, depending on the Bush situation of course.

MMoore might benefit by actually getting a legit opportunity in Minny due to the coaching change.

I submit that it will be these mid-late round players that will decide some championships, and some poor seasons, next year.

I think these are good points.I think Gonzo is the riskiest player next year. He could have another top 5 year, but that's going to be really hard to do...

And AJ could be the steal of the year.

There's quite a few WRs I'm looking at next year that could be huge steals. That's how you have to play it with WRs, IMO.