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more bad news on foster (1 Viewer)

Too much we don't know about Foster to have him still in the elite RB list. If he's healthy, then yeah. It's a no brainer top 4 pick. But I am drafting tonight and I'm avoiding him in the first round. If he's there at the turn in the early second, I'll probably take my chances. But the pain in the legs is the real red flag, and all the info from the coaching staff seems confusing. Could be he has a disc issue. Could be just the injections causing him pain in the legs. I'll take a risk on Foster, just expecting a discount is all. If someone "steals" him from me tonight, I can live with that too.

 
Anyone arguing against the handcuff strategy here is generalizing and disregarding the fact that this is a special situation. I'm not saying to draft DMC or Murray and grab their handcuffs even though their injury histories would point towards that being a debatable strategy.

I'm saying to handcuff the first round pick who..

  • is coming off his largest workload ever (351)
  • is coming off the largest workload of last year
  • is coming off of a workload that has lead to a drop-off for numerous RBs in their subsequent years
  • is already showing signs that he's been affected by said heavy workload
  • can't practice/play two weeks before the season opener
I'm staying away, regardless.

 
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I am 1 pick away in a PPR redraft (1.6 pick) if Spiller is taken at 1.5 would I be nuts to pass on Foster for McCoy or Richardson? (If Spiller is there he is my pick for sure)

 
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I don't want this guy. But I have this sinking feeling in my gut that he's going to pull out a good year. Just not for me. Not with all this news about his health.

 
I am 1 pick away in a PPR redraft (1.6 pick) if Spiller is taken at 1.5 would I be nuts to pass on Foster for McCoy or Richardson? (If Spiller is there he is my pick for sure)
I'd be happy grabbing McCoy and avoiding this situation. Don't think it's nuts at all.
I'd almost certainly take Shady over him this year. Watching him last week he looked amazing and that was without Peters at LT. No brainer for me-

 
As it stands today, my worries are mainly that he will be playing but at increased risk the first few weeks of nagging hammies or muscle strains because he didn't get time to get in football shape.

The longer the situation seems to stay the same, the more I'll worry he's going to miss time from the back itself. Right now, I'm going with what Jene has said and looking at as week to week for now.

By the way, outside of the injury thing, I think the biggest question about Foster and Tate's success this year is very much what it was going into last year... how will the right side of the O-line perform. Foster's 2 greatest attributes are his vision... and then once past the line his size and speed tend to cause defenders to misjudge and take bad angles on him, where his little dead leg juke is really effective. I've seen people comment about his YPC dropping and saying Foster looked different. I'm not sure what they were seeing. Last year I didn't see a lot of Foster's ability change, but the sheer number of holes weren't there that he could cut and go and get to the second level where his best traits equal extra yards over other backs. There were a lot more guys in the backfield he had to dodge before he could gain positive yards. I'd expect the situation there to be a little better this year just from maturation of those young players on the right side, and Brooks at right guard in particular looks like he may be a good one. Right tackle is still a big question mark. I also think the addition of Greg Jones at FB may help the tailback more than when it was James Casey. Casey is a better receiving option, but not as good of a blocker. But I don't expect a rebound back to 2011 because the line isn't as good. I won't be surprised at all if Foster's YPC goes back up somewhere in between, but that fantasy value is still driven a lot by touchdowns and number of touches.

 
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Well this is how far he has fallen, not one of the first 10 picks in this PPR redraft I'm in. I just took Dez at 1.10

1.1 AP

1.2 Martin

1.3 Rice

1.4 Spiller

1.5 Richardson

1.6 Calvin

1.7 Charles

1.8 McCoy

1.9 Lynch

1.10 Dez

I honestly don't know if I want him if he makes it back to 2.3!!

 
I am 1 pick away in a PPR redraft (1.6 pick) if Spiller is taken at 1.5 would I be nuts to pass on Foster for McCoy or Richardson? (If Spiller is there he is my pick for sure)
IMO In PPR there it's:

McCoy > Foster >> Richardson IMO

 
I am 1 pick away in a PPR redraft (1.6 pick) if Spiller is taken at 1.5 would I be nuts to pass on Foster for McCoy or Richardson? (If Spiller is there he is my pick for sure)
I'd be happy grabbing McCoy and avoiding this situation. Don't think it's nuts at all.
Either guy could easily finish ahead of him this year. What's going to be tough is if he is at the turn. Actually it won't be tough because you'd be nuts not to draft him there.

 
He has been dropping in mocks. The lowest i had was today in the 3rd. No way that happens in my real draft
I took him yesterday at 1.11 in a 12 team PPR league.
Drafting tonight from the 12 hole in a 12 team PPR league. If he gets through 11 picks, I think I gotta take him regardless of the uncertainty with his back.

If he's business as usual Week 1, a healthy Foster paired with say a Matt Forte would look REAL nice I'm thinking.

 
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Pain in his legs from an injured back sounds like a disc problem. Nothing is going to change that except missed time (rest) or surgery. No thanks....

 
If foster doesnt play in preseason at all how high would you go on tate for a swing for the fences kind of move? Im not really sold on some of the players where he is going currently. I would have my starting roster likely done in the first 6 rds.

 
Pain in his legs from an injured back sounds like a disc problem. Nothing is going to change that except missed time (rest) or surgery. No thanks....
A disc problem is one possibility. According to Jene Bramel there are also other things that could cause it that are less worrisome than disc related.

 
I think as things stand today, Foster is undervalued and Tate is probably going to be overvalued unless there is significant news. I'd probably be trying to trade for Foster today based on people's reaction.

 
Didn't he sit most of last year preseason too? I remember LT back in his heyday not playing a down in preseason and being ok. Could any of this just be Foster and/or the Texans not wanting him out there for meaningless games?

 
Published Mon Aug 19 4:27:02 p.m. ET 2013


(KFFL)Houston Texans head coach Gary Kubiak fully expects RB Arian Foster (back) to be ready for the season opener Sept. 9 against the San Diego Chargers. Foster was unable to practice Monday, Aug. 19. "Yes I am because I watch him work," Kubiak said. "I've been watching him. He's basically going through practices or has been since we've been in camp on his own with Jeff. Obviously, there's been a little setback as we try to get some soreness out of him. But from what I've seen, yes. It's not like he's been standing around for the last three weeks. Obviously, we want to get him back out here as quick as I can."

 
This is the kind of thing that makes me think I have a chance at getting him, and then the guys I play with haven't read any of the news and still draft him third overall.

 

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