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Morgan Burnett with Bigby sitting out (1 Viewer)

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The longer Atari Bigby stays away from the Green Bay Packers’ offseason program, the better Morgan Burnett’s chances of winning a starting job.

With Bigby absent because he hasn’t signed his restricted free agent tender, Burnett has taken all the snaps at strong safety with the starting defense during the organized team activities. And the way Burnett has performed, he might not be just keeping Bigby’s seat warm.

The third-round draft pick from Georgia Tech, who made a name for himself in college by taking the ball away, has continued his playmaking ways so far in OTAs. Though he’s still learning the Packers’ version of the 3-4 defense, his instincts have already come through in his play. In all three of the OTA practices that have been open to the media, Burnett has made at least one big play.

“He’s learning; he’s growing,” Packers coach Mike McCarthy said after Wednesday’s OTA. “I do like his assertiveness, particularly in his communication skills, and that’s very important at the safety position. Athletically, he’s a young man with a bright future. You can just see the athletic ability, both on special teams and defense. He’s still learning the defense, and he’s doing a good job of that.”

Burnett has good size (6 feet 1 inches, 209 pounds) — he’s bigger than Bigby (5-11, 213) and starting free safety Nick Collins (5-11, 207) — and runs well (a 4.42 in the 40-yard dash during his pro day) for a safety. But it was his ball skills that opened the Packers’ eyes. He had 14 interceptions in just three years at Georgia Tech.

“Everything that happened in college is back in college,” Burnett said. “This is a new beginning now, and I’m just trying to learn and pick up the plays and do my best out there to pick it up quickly and get better. I knew it was going to be a fast tempo, so the main thing is getting used to the fast tempo and learning the terminology.”

Part of Burnett’s job entails making some defensive calls in the secondary, which requires both a detailed knowledge of the scheme and the ability to think quickly. His Wonderlic score of 14 was on the low side, but Collins had low scores coming out of college, too, and he had little trouble assimilating into the pro game. Burnett said he’s been studying the scheme every chance he has gotten and has been relying heavily on veterans like Collins for advice.

“It’s a tough task, but it’s been going OK,” Burnett said. “I’m just trying to understand the terminology and my responsibility.”

To date, all but two of the defensive installations have been completed. The final two will be installed during the final OTAs next week, and the entire package will be reviewed during the June 21-23 mandatory minicamp.

Whether Bigby will be around for the minicamp is uncertain. He technically wouldn’t be considered a holdout because he isn’t under contract.

The Packers placed a second-round restricted free agent tender on him, but he is one of three players who hasn’t signed (defensive Johnny Jolly and cornerback Tramon Williams are the others). Bigby’s agent, Drew Rosenhaus, hasn’t returned repeated messages left over the course of the offseason.

Collins said he spoke with Bigby two weeks ago but wasn’t sure when Bigby planned to sign. Bigby is coming off of two injury-filled seasons that followed his breakout season of 2007. He has missed time the last two years because of ankle and knee injuries.

“He’s back home trying to get his ankle right and come in for training camp and go from there,” Collins said.

Bigby’s status could change next week. If restricted free agents don’t sign their tenders by Tuesday, teams can reduce their offer to 110 percent of their 2009 base salary.

“I think all of our players understand the importance of the OTAs, particularly the players that have been here in the past, the opportunities that they’re given and the time that the coaching staff puts into these OTAs and the individual time that’s available afterward,” McCarthy said.

“Anytime a player misses these, it’s an opportunity that is wasted as far as being with his teammates. But we can’t deny there are business situations that surround our business, and that’s no different for Atari or any others that have not been here.”

Still, Bigby’s starting job could be slipping through his hands because of his absence.

When asked whether he has told Bigby about how well Burnett has played, Collins said: “I don’t have to tell him the kid looks OK. We’re all grown men here. Everybody’s getting evaluated. It’s up to him to come in and make the right decision for him. I’m letting him know that whenever he comes back, we’re ready for him and nobody’s trying to throw (Bigby) to the side or push him away.”

 
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I drafted Bigby late in the 2nd round. Boy am I glad. I think he could be great next season 2011. Possibly have some value this season.

 
Woodson was praising him this week(Burnett). I would back up Bigby if you can.

Burnett could be a steal.

Woodson has high praise for Burnett

By Greg A. Bedard of the Journal Sentinel

June 22, 2010

Green Bay - We'll have more from Charles Woodson in Wednesday's paper, but wanted to pass along two notes.

Asked Woodson about his level of confidence if rookie safety Morgan Burnett has to start. Woodson's answer surprised me a bit:

From what I've seen early out of him, he's not making mistakes, or if he is making mistakes, it's no more than anybody else is making. He's got a lot of experience back there with him, with Nick, myself and Tramon. So if he is to play in there, we'll carry him as long as we can until he's up to speed but, (shoot), he's good. He looks good to me, you know. Now it's just a matter of experience getting into a game and getting a feel of it and playing at this level. So we'll see what happens when he's thrown in the fire."

Woodson is also in game shape already. He said he normally is at least 12 pounds overweight at this time of year, and then uses training camp to get ready. Woodson is at 200 pounds after taking a boxing class in Florida, which also has improved his troublesome right shoulder:

I feel good. I feel even better coming in this year than last year. The thing is, just go out there and continue to make plays. As long as you do that, you're fine.

I actually took a boxing class down in Florida. Some of the toughest work I've done, so it kept me trim.

It built my shoulders up. You know I had the shoulder kind of coming off at the end of the year, and the shoulder work those boxers do is tremendous. So it actually had me looking kind of big up top. I had to lay off it a little bit. (laughing)

 
Not good news for Bigby.

Bigby a concern as camp starts

By Greg A. Bedard of the Journal Sentinel

July 30, 2010 |(115) COMMENTS

Green Bay - If the Packers weren't thrilled with safety Atari Bigby missing all of the off-season work as he refused to sign his contract tender, they were probably grumbling when he failed his physical due to a chronic ankle problem.

"I am concerned. Everybody is concerned," coach Mike McCarthy said Friday. "I haven’t had an opportunity to talk to Atari. He has had the ankle injury and it is something that has bothered him in the past. Hopefully we can get the answer for that and he can get out there and get ready to go."

Bigby first injured the ankle during the 2008 season and was placed on injured reserve. Nearly two years later he's having trouble with the same ankle and the Packers are searching for answers.

"It just really bothered him in the conditioning test, and that was the key to why he did not pass the physical," McCarthy said. "It’s something that we have to get our hands around."

Since Bigby did not sign his tender until this week, he didn't have to report to the Packers, not even for physicals. So the Packers weren't sure what Bigby was doing to prepare the ankle. Evidently not much.

Packers put Harris, Bigby on reserve list

Both will miss first day of training camp

By Tom Silverstein of the Journal Sentinel

Posted: July 30, 2010 |(20) COMMENTS

McCarthy: Coach optimistic about Packers' chances

Notes: Packers put Harris, Bigby on reserve list

Green Bay — Half of the Green Bay Packers' starting secondary last year won't be on the field when training camp opens Saturday.

Cornerback Al Harris (knee) and strong safety Atari Bigby (ankle) both failed their physicals and were put on the reserve / physically unable to perform list. Both are eligible to come off it as soon as the Packers deem them healthy.

As for the question of whose future is less certain, Bigby might be the answer. After protesting the Packers' unwillingness to give him a long-term contract by choosing not to attend any of the off-season activities, Bigby showed up with a recurrence of the ankle pain that short-circuited his 2008 season and affected him in '09.

The Packers became aware of the ankle issue when he had problems with the conditioning test.

"There was communication with Atari, but we all know what his business situation was," coach Mike McCarthy said. "This is really the first opportunity our doctors have had to examine him."

On the advice of his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, Bigby chose not to sign the one-year, $1.759 million restricted free-agent tender the Packers offered in March. Had this not been an uncapped year, Bigby would have been an unrestricted free agent and free to shop himself anywhere.

Just exactly how long it will take Bigby to get on the field is anyone's guess.

"I am concerned, everybody is concerned," McCarthy said. "I haven't had an opportunity to talk to Atari. He has had the ankle injury, and it is something that has bothered him in the past. Hopefully, we can get the answer for that, and he can get out there and get ready to go."

At least in the case of Harris, the Packers know he has made tremendous progress from a catastrophic knee injury and has a shot to be ready for the season.

It has been just eight months since Harris tore the anterior and medial ligaments in his left knee, along with the IT band and hamstring. Despite the fact he can run and cut, Packers team doctor Patrick McKenzie generally errs on the side of caution and may feel not enough time has passed for Harris to stress his knee on the football field.

But Harris, a workout warrior who documented his rehab online, hasn't been ruled out of the season opener.

"I would not be surprised," McCarthy said of Harris being ready. "If you were to have asked me three or four weeks ago, I would have probably said 'no.' But the report I was given today by Dr. McKenzie, he has made a lot of progress."

Along with Bigby and Harris, rookie running back James Starks also failed his physical because of a hamstring pull he suffered in organized team activities. McCarthy gave no timeline on a possible return for Starks, who is in line to compete for third-down back and kickoff returner.

With Bigby out, third-round pick Morgan Burnett will start at safety, a position he held all off-season. McCarthy said Burnett intrigued him during off-season workouts, but now he has to show he can do it at full speed in pads.

"There was communication with Atari, but we all know what his business situation was," McCarthy said. "This is really the first opportunity our doctors have had to examine him."

Bigby is now behind schedule and it puts rookie Morgan Burnett, who impressed in spring drills, in the drivers seat to claim the strong safety position opposite Nick Collins.

"I really like what the young man has done in the (off-season) practices," McCarthy said of Burnett. "He’s very smart. I think he’s a very good communicator, showed a lot of athletic ability. Those types of things that you can see in the OTAs. Everybody is very pleased. He has an opportunity in front of him, and I think he has gotten off to a good start, good foundation. Really like his work ethic. I’m excited to see him out there."

 
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What was Bigby thinking(after Burnett was drafted)?

Oh yeah Rosenhaus is his agent

Sunday Extra Points: Bigby’s Strategy Questionable

Posted by Mike Vandermause August 1st, 2010, 7:34 am

We’ve been wondering all offseason what safety Atari Bigby was thinking by not signing his restricted free agent tender and avoiding the Packers’ offseason workouts.

Now we know. Bigby was very candid yesterday in explaining his thinking: he wanted a new contract.

We give him points for honesty, but question his logic.

Surely Bigby and his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, had to notice how the Packers treated fellow safety Nick Collins last year. Collins was coming off a Pro Bowl season and was entering the fifth year of his contract, yet the team waited until after the 2009 season to give him a new deal.

Why would the Packers treat Bigby any differently? Bigby is a restricted free agent and doesn’t possess Pro Bowl credentials yet, meaning he has limited bargaining power. He knows this. His agent knows this. The Packers know this. We all know this.

Yet Bigby chose to sit out offseason workouts and in effect risk his future by somehow hoping the Packers would ante up.

What the Packers did instead was draft Bigby’s potential, or eventual, replacement in Morgan Burnett. To further add to his woes, when Bigby finally came to his senses and signed his tender and reported to camp, he aggravated his problematic ankle during conditioning drills. Now he sits on the physically unable to perform list and can only watch and wonder as Burnett attempts to steal his job.

He doesn’t sound like a happy camper. When asked about the Packers not giving him a new contract, Bigby said: “Extremely disappointing. But that’s how it goes. That’s how the business of it goes.”

There’s a big question mark surrounding Bigby’s future.

When asked about Bigby following yesterday’s opening training camp practice, coach Mike McCarthy said: “We are gathering more information on Atari Bigby. There are some tests that will be done. We don’t have all of the answers right now.”

 
LInk

GREEN BAY, Wis. -- Green Bay Packers safety Atari Bigby will have surgery on his left ankle Friday, and the Packers don't have a timeline for his return.

Bigby has been bothered by an ankle injury the past two seasons, and he said he aggravated it during a conditioning test last week. Bigby was on the sidelines for the first few days of training camp and went to see a specialist this week.

With Bigby out, rookie Morgan Burnett has been taking snaps with the first-team defense in practice.

Bigby, a restricted free agent, wasn't in Green Bay for the Packers' offseason program and didn't sign his tender offer from the team until last week.
 
LInk

GREEN BAY, Wis. -- Green Bay Packers safety Atari Bigby will have surgery on his left ankle Friday, and the Packers don't have a timeline for his return.

Bigby has been bothered by an ankle injury the past two seasons, and he said he aggravated it during a conditioning test last week. Bigby was on the sidelines for the first few days of training camp and went to see a specialist this week.

With Bigby out, rookie Morgan Burnett has been taking snaps with the first-team defense in practice.

Bigby, a restricted free agent, wasn't in Green Bay for the Packers' offseason program and didn't sign his tender offer from the team until last week.
Wow staying healthy has been a problem for 2 years.

 
Anybody have thoughts on production from Burnett as the full time ss? 70-solos, 4int's sound about right? Thoughts?

 
Bigby lost $59,500

Bigby Loses Money

Posted by Rob Demovsky August 5th, 2010, 8:33 am

Atari Bigby’s offseason-long absence from the Green Bay Packers workouts, organized team activities and minicamp didn’t yield the long-term contract and raise he wanted.

And now we know that he actually lost money by doing it.

According to NFL Players Association salary information, the Packers did indeed reduce Bigby’s restricted free agent tender to $1,699,500 down from his original tender of $1,759,000.

Teams have the right to reduce RFA tenders to 110 percent of the player’s pay from the previous season if he doesn’t sign his tender by June 15. There was some uncertainty about whether the Packers did that or not — Bigby himself claimed last week that he didn’t know — but now we know.

Sure, it was only a loss of $59,500, but the point is that it was a sign of the Packers’ displeasure with Bigby.

The fifth-year safety, who said he was “extremely disappointed” he didn’t get a long term deal, hasn’t practiced yet in training camp because he injured his left ankle during the pre-training camp conditioning test.

– Rob Demovsky, rdemovsk@greenbaypressgazette.com

 
Local news and sports are reporting that Bigby might miss the next packer game.

Here is a link about his ankle surgery:

http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/08/05/1763...have-ankle.html

Packers S Bigby to have ankle surgery

.By Sports Network

The Sports Network

Green Bay Packers safety Atari Bigby will undergo ankle surgery on Friday, according to head coach Mike McCarthy.

Bigby indicated he needs an arthroscopic procedure on the ankle and does not expect miss a significant amount of time, though McCarthy did not give a timetable on the four-year veteran's return.

In 13 games with the Packers last year, Bigby recorded four interceptions and 49 tackles.

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/08/05/1763...l#ixzz0vpr5bfjp

 
Surgery confirmed today

Packers safety Bigby might miss 4 to 8 weeks after ankle surgery

GREEN BAY, Wis. -- Packers safety Atari Bigby will miss at least four weeks after having ankle surgery earlier this month, putting his availability for the Sept. 12 season opener at Philadelphia in doubt.

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Bigby said it would be "very disappointing" to start the season on the Packers' physically unable to perform list. He is expected to be out four to eight weeks, so even if he makes it back quickly, he still would have little time to prepare for the game against the Eagles.

Bigby had surgery on his troublesome left ankle Aug. 6. If he begins the season on the PUP list, he would miss the first six games of the season.
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Is Burnett likely to pick up the production in the next few weeks? I'm guessing it will probably be similar results to last week against Buffalo, but can we expect an increase in tackles in games after that?

 
Is Burnett likely to pick up the production in the next few weeks? I'm guessing it will probably be similar results to last week against Buffalo, but can we expect an increase in tackles in games after that?
If he stops being so tentative.It may take a few weeks.
 
It appeared to me he was playing deep, far more then he was in the box. Then when he did have a chance to make a tackle, he wiffed. McCoy made him miss on at least two, clear occassions.

 
Will Burnett be heading for the bench when Bigby comes off the PUP?

Not that Burnett has been worth keeping to this point, but I guess I'm looking for an even better reason to cut him loose.

Thanks

 
Will Burnett be heading for the bench when Bigby comes off the PUP?Not that Burnett has been worth keeping to this point, but I guess I'm looking for an even better reason to cut him loose.Thanks
Has he been put on IR yet? I can't move him to my dynasty league's IR until it's official.
 
Will Burnett be heading for the bench when Bigby comes off the PUP?Not that Burnett has been worth keeping to this point, but I guess I'm looking for an even better reason to cut him loose.Thanks
Has he been put on IR yet? I can't move him to my dynasty league's IR until it's official.
I also have him in a Dynasty format. Is he really worth keeping?
 
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Any news on who will be starting with Bigby still out and Burnett lost for the season? Seems the choices are kind of thin at this point.

 
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Addressing the Asomugha rumors

There has been a lot of buzz out there about the Packers possibly pursuing former Oakland CB Nnamdi Asomugha in free agency.

My take is that it's a fantasy football story.

There are roughly 13 million (or more) reasons why it won't happen and those just have to do with his yearly salary.

Asomugha has hinted about wanting to play with former teammate Charles Woodson and Woodson has said he has had contact with Asomugha, but let's face it, GM Ted Thompson is not going to deliver what could be $30 million in guaranteed money (that's based on the four-year, $46 million deal Darrelle Revis signed with the Jets, and he still had two years left; Asomugha is a free agent) for a position that's in good shape.

Here's the thing that most fans are forgetting regarding this issue: there will be a salary cap again. If Thompson signs Asomugha, he would paying something like a quarter of his cap for his top three corners (including Woodson).

To understand what a deal like this would do to the Packers, you have to remember this: TE Jermichael Finley, OG Josh Sitton and WR Jordy Nelson are all eligible to become free agents after next season (assuming free agency eligibility returns to four seasons). That doesn't even begin to address the likely blockbuster deal LB Clay Matthews will require three years into his five-year deal.

The year after that, Thompson has to address WR Greg Jennings again.

A big-money deal to Asomugha would probably guarantee Finley would walk. He's going to require an enormous deal if he stays healthy this year and you can only have a limited amount of players with blockibuster deals. Sitton is going to get paid huge money, too. Nelson will be the No. 2 receiver before long.

Given the way Thompson has built this team, it doesn't make sense to put so much money in one player. It's not his philosophy to build that way.

Besides, what does he tell Tramon Williams, to whom he just signed a deal that would pale in comparison to the one Asomugha signs? And what about rookie Morgan Burnett? The Packers coaches love him and think he'll be a fixture at safety for years to come. If Woodson has to move there to account for Asomugha, then Burnett is on the bench next year.

None of it makes sense. Time to move on to the next rumor.

 

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