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Moritz Böhringer, WR Bengals - Taming the Stripes like Sigfried and Roy! (1 Viewer)
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Dr. Octopus
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Hey, if you're right more power to you, and if my dynasties had a 6 or 7 round rookie draft, maybe I'd take a look at him, but our rookie drafts are three rounds which comes out to 36 to 42 players, and within those parameters he shouldn't even get a sniff.
massraider
Footballguy
Mine too, but geez, it tends to be RBs with a shot at some playing time.
And that's after I know where they signed.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Driver, Colston, Cruz, Austin, Garcon... gotta pay attention when small-school or other off-the-radar guys get a shot.
Snorkelson
Footballguy
Disregard this thread and many others if you have a 10 team 15 man roster league. If you are 12+ team and roster 30, and draft before the nfl draft, maybe you throw a 7th at him
Pat just signed this guy...were discussing German players earlier
Markus Kuhn is a German American football defensive tackle for the New England Patriots of the National Football League. He was selected in the seventh round, 239th overall, by the New York Giants in the 2012 NFL Draft.
Markus Kuhn is a German American football defensive tackle for the New England Patriots of the National Football League. He was selected in the seventh round, 239th overall, by the New York Giants in the 2012 NFL Draft.
Faust
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During German WR Moritz Boehringer's positional workout at Florida Atlantic this weekend, the Cincinnati Bengals, Carolina Panthers, New Orleans Saints, Atlanta Falcons, Chicago Bears, New York Jets, Buffalo Bills, New England Patriots and Denver Broncos all sent representatives.
This according to TFY Draft Insider's Tony Pauline. It's always fun to see the draft community unexpectedly freak out over an unknown entity late in the process. That appears to be the case with Boehringer, who spun heads Exorcist-style when he sprinted through the 40-yard dash in the neighborhood of 4.40 seconds and sliced the three-cone drill to the tune of 6.64 seconds during Florida Atlantic's Pro Day at the end of March. The 6-foot-4, 225-pounder was back at it this weekend for positional drills. Per Pauline, "He not only caught the ball well but absorbed the requests and easily ran the route tree asked of him. Just like his initial pro-day on March 31st, Boehringer looked very natural." Per NFL.com, the Patriots, Packers, Vikings, Broncos and Chiefs are among the more interested parties here. Boehringer has likely turned himself into a Day 3 selection.
Source: TFY Draft Insider
Apr 10 - 6:53 PM
Dr. Octopus
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Somebody should tell those teams petekrum from the internet says they are wasting their time.Faust said:
Righetti
Footballguy
What do you think Matt Jones' stats would have been for his career if he could have avoided drugs? His fourth year he was actually on pace for an 80-1000+ season before the suspension that ended his career.
Matt Jones minus drugs might actually be a FF viable WR. That said Matt Jones while raw as a WR was familiar with SEC level football.
I've called them and tried to tell them that, but so far they have not listened.Somebody should tell those teams petekrum from the internet says they are wasting their time.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I'm just messing around. Odds are you'll still end up being right about him in the end, but it does look like he has some momentum to make it to some training camp as an UDFA singing at least - and maybe even find a team willing to use a sixth or seventh round flier on him.
mr roboto
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In the end, we're all just playing a game. No reason to get worked up.?Lol. I'm glad you're being a good sport
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steelers1080
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He was on the NFL network this morning, apparently he played Safety in Germany. Daniel Jeremiah asked how that went and he was basically like, "It was incredibly easy. Too easy. The QBs in Germany are just so bad." While it was a funny exchange, the idea of a 6' 4" 227lb safety with speed wouldn't be the worst thing if it turns out his route running is crap. I'd love to see him compared with some of the best prospects though. Maybe at Gruden's WR camp or something, have him run routes with Treadwell and Coleman and compare them.
From his tape his routes look like crap, but he didn't have to run crisp routes to get separation. It would be awesome if he does well, but I definitely think it would take a while.
From his tape his routes look like crap, but he didn't have to run crisp routes to get separation. It would be awesome if he does well, but I definitely think it would take a while.
tone1oc
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I don't think anyone would expect him to run the type of routes that Treadwell or Coleman, but route running is coachable. At his Pro-Day he was able to show teams that he could beat the press and catch the ball well which is a good start for a guy expected to be raw. If he can prove that he is coachable I'd be surprised if he isn't taken on day 3.steelers1080 said:
Agreed, I think a lot of people in here missed some off the comments about how he performed well in the WR drills. Everyone knows he is raw, but I think all the visits came from the fact that it was reported he did well at the position drills and was able to learn quickly at the drills. We all know he is ridiculously raw and played against scrubs, but his numbers were off the chart, i.e. better or as good as every single WR at the combine. I have no doubt he'll get drafted/get signed right away as an UDFA. I don't think he'd have multiple team visits if he didn't show enough to be drafted.
Dr. Octopus
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Guy is getting a lot of visits which obviously means he's on the NFL's radar.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
At this point I'd think that the question is where he gets drafted, not if. O/U for me is mid 5 to start of 6. Anything there or after is sort of expected. Anything before that and I'll be targeting him in dyno drafts.
Cold Dead Hands
Footballguy
Someone may take a shot at this guy in the 4th. Where did Matt Jones go?
massraider
Footballguy
Cold Dead Hands
Footballguy
As a QB, yes.
He was drafted for his freakish athleticism. He had never run a route against an SEC defense. Had never broke a press from an SEC CB.
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Matt Jones is a good comp. I would give him the football IQ huge jump since he played QB in the SEC, but you are correct, he was very raw as a WR. Das WR has a bit of a jump due to playing WR before, but still behind.
That said, Matt Jones was a first round pick and honestly might have been a decent wide receiver if he hadn't been Josh Gordon before Josh Gordon. Jones was on his way to an 80-1000+ season in his 4th year before he got suspended for 3 games and never played another game.
Das WR is likely a 5th rounder at best and that is if someone likes him a lot and reaches. I am betting 7th rounder.
Ben & Jerry's
Footballguy
I think this kid has a real shot at making someones 53. Will be targeting him in my rookie draft possibly late 4th round.
Super King
Footballguy
I hope Green Bay drafts him. So they have the monopoly on tall, fast, white WRs.
Bob Magaw
Footballguy
Jones was 6'6", 220 lbs. and ran a sub-4.4 40.
That was who I thought of, too, a mash up of Jones and Jordy Nelson (MoBo is bigger, faster, quicker and more explosive) PHYSICALLY and ATHLETICALLY. But it is hard to overstate the challenges he will face knowing so few positional nuances compared to his US born peers who grew up living and breathing football. If highly motivated, mature and disciplined (i.e. - the anti-Manziel), that can help. In the article above from MMQB, it talked about how Garcon and Boldin are taking him under their wing (run through route cuts at 80% speed to be more in control, he assumed it was done at full sprint).
Realistically, he is a long shot to ever amount to anything, I think most realize that. To date, Christian Okoye is still probably the best example that it can be done (albeit at a different position). He came a long ways in just about a half decade from never having played the game through Azusa Pacific and the Chiefs, rushing for nearly 1,500 yards (2 receptions
) in his career best year. If he had been born in the US, no telling what he could have done. Especially if he learned to run around and not just through tacklers, he might not have had such an Earl Campbell-like basically half decade career (like Rutger Hauer in Bladerunner, though their days were numbered, they burned so very bright). Okoye was in range of inches for Olympic medal contention in the discus, but excluded for political reasons in his native Nigeria (and I think not yet a US citizen), yet reportedly ran a sub-4.4 at 265 lbs. That isn't human, that is a cartoon character, it was comical how much broader his shoulders were than everybody else. A Football Life (VIDEO 42 minutes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0DYFLa3jK4
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BassNBrew
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As hard as its gonna be for this guy to make it as a WR, making the transition at CB would be virtually impossible. Safety maybe but not CB.
biju
Footballguy
Why would you say that? If he understands route concepts, has good speed, good acceleration, and is long-armed it's the same conversion Richard Sherman made his junior year in college. I realize there's a learning curve here but I think you're overstating the difficulty when you say "virtually impossible". Perhaps it's more unlikely that a team would be interested in him as a conversion project and would keep him in his natural position simply because there would be a lower investment to get him on the field.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
He's two inches taller and 30 pounds heavier than Sherman. Pretty sure he's not going to play defense.
You have to understand, it's gonna be a miracle if this guys makes the league at his natural position, which is why the prospect of asking him the convert to probably one of the hardest positions to play against the best WRs in the world at the highest level is virtually impossible.
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hedzookeeper
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I believe Marcus Colston may have been drafted as a TE but I think he was groomed as a WR once Stallworth was traded.
SaintsInDome2006
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Thanks, Saints in the 7th, please. No pedigrees necessary and there's real opportunity here.
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Casting Couch
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New England Patriots
