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Mostly tattoo discussion, some stuff about Kapernick and his tortoise (5 Viewers)

I remember quite a few instances where stories have broken and you think " no way, its not anywhere near what it appears to be .... "

Then 6 weeks later, you realize it was all that and way more.

Will this thing be anything? Probably not ... but if there is a next story on Kap, people will say see, he's not learned anything, he's at it again ....

Tread carefully Kap - be respectable .....

 
That just caused the blue screen of death at my work. It must have been from a very bad place. What is on the pic?
You probably just aren't good at computers.
Yeah, I must be a very bad programmer / analyst because our company firewall stops us from going anywhere we please on the internet. You stalking / trolling me again?

 
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I remember quite a few instances where stories have broken and you think " no way, its not anywhere near what it appears to be .... "

Then 6 weeks later, you realize it was all that and way more.

Will this thing be anything? Probably not ... but if there is a next story on Kap, people will say see, he's not learned anything, he's at it again ....

Tread carefully Kap - be respectable .....
Yeah, I'm sure you'll be watching Ricardo Lockette and Quinton Patton too.

 
That just caused the blue screen of death at my work. It must have been from a very bad place. What is on the pic?
You probably just aren't good at computers.
Yeah, I must be a very bad programmer / analyst because our company firewall stops us from going anywhere we please on the internet.
You said it :shrug:

 
That just caused the blue screen of death at my work. It must have been from a very bad place. What is on the pic?
You probably just aren't good at computers.
Yeah, I must be a very bad programmer / analyst because our company firewall stops us from going anywhere we please on the internet. You stalking me again?
Try this:

http://www.tattoofashion.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/mark-wahlberg-tattoo.jpg

 
If anything CK is a "drugstore thug" just like many of the white kids you see at suburban malls. CK has a white mom, was raised in the 92% white Fond du Lac, Wisconsin. Was a model student. When he started playing D-1 football like most he probably wanted to toughen up his image a bit.

 
That just caused the blue screen of death at my work. It must have been from a very bad place. What is on the pic?
You probably just aren't good at computers.
Yeah, I must be a very bad programmer / analyst because our company firewall stops us from going anywhere we please on the internet.
You said it :shrug:
go away

 
If anything CK is a "drugstore thug" just like many of the white kids you see at suburban malls. CK has a white mom, was raised in the 92% white Fond du Lac, Wisconsin. Was a model student. When he started playing D-1 football like most he probably wanted to toughen up his image a bit.
Does that make him a wug?

 
That just caused the blue screen of death at my work. It must have been from a very bad place. What is on the pic?
You probably just aren't good at computers.
Yeah, I must be a very bad programmer / analyst because our company firewall stops us from going anywhere we please on the internet.
You said it :shrug:
go away
Stop whining about your computer problems, that's not the purpose of this thread.

 
That just caused the blue screen of death at my work. It must have been from a very bad place. What is on the pic?
You probably just aren't good at computers.
Yeah, I must be a very bad programmer / analyst because our company firewall stops us from going anywhere we please on the internet.
You said it :shrug:
go away
Stop whining about your computer problems, that's not the purpose of this thread.
You're a piece of work and you have an A1 day.

-Walter White

 
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I remember quite a few instances where stories have broken and you think " no way, its not anywhere near what it appears to be .... "

Then 6 weeks later, you realize it was all that and way more.

Will this thing be anything? Probably not ... but if there is a next story on Kap, people will say see, he's not learned anything, he's at it again ....

Tread carefully Kap - be respectable .....
Grandma, when did you start posting here? And stop wagging your finger; they can't see you.

 
That just caused the blue screen of death at my work. It must have been from a very bad place. What is on the pic?
You probably just aren't good at computers.
Yeah, I must be a very bad programmer / analyst because our company firewall stops us from going anywhere we please on the internet. You stalking me again?
Try this:

http://www.tattoofashion.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/mark-wahlberg-tattoo.jpg
That one worked, thanks.

 
I remember quite a few instances where stories have broken and you think " no way, its not anywhere near what it appears to be .... "

Then 6 weeks later, you realize it was all that and way more.

Will this thing be anything? Probably not ... but if there is a next story on Kap, people will say see, he's not learned anything, he's at it again ....

Tread carefully Kap - be respectable .....
There's a ton of truth to the "once you get started" thing.

I always contended the Randy Moss was about 30% as much a bad guy as everyone else thought. Same for Terrell Owens. Not saying they didn't have problems or make mistakes. I'm saying that they were perceived (there's that word again) as worse than they were.

Once something happens, there is a target on you. Everyone loves a train wreck. If Terrell Owens yells at a coach, you can bet the camera is on him next time so the next thing he does is caught. (that another guy could do too but not be seen). It's the way the world works.

But I think it's also why some of the smarter coaches like Belichick take chances on players like Moss or Corey Dillon. They know that the players aren't as bad as they're portrayed.

For Kaepernick, even if he emerges 100% clean from this (like it's looking like), he'll be a little higher on the radar of the TMZ type reporters of the world that'll be watching him way more closely than they will a guy like Russell Wilson. Three weeks from now, Russell Wilson might do the exact same negative thing Kaepernick does and you never hear a peep while Kaepernick does it and the whole world hears because he was higher up on the radar.

Is it fair? No way. But it's how it is.

J

 
If anything CK is a "drugstore thug" just like many of the white kids you see at suburban malls. CK has a white mom, was raised in the 92% white Fond du Lac, Wisconsin. Was a model student. When he started playing D-1 football like most he probably wanted to toughen up his image a bit.
Does that make him a wug?
We're far removed from Ozzie and Harriet

http://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/ap-names-unitas.jpg?w=1024&h=768

 
If anything CK is a "drugstore thug" just like many of the white kids you see at suburban malls. CK has a white mom, was raised in the 92% white Fond du Lac, Wisconsin. Was a model student. When he started playing D-1 football like most he probably wanted to toughen up his image a bit.
Does that make him a wug?
We're far removed from Ozzie and Harriet

http://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/ap-names-unitas.jpg?w=1024&h=768
Not that far. Which is kind of the point I think...

J

 
If anything CK is a "drugstore thug" just like many of the white kids you see at suburban malls. CK has a white mom, was raised in the 92% white Fond du Lac, Wisconsin. Was a model student. When he started playing D-1 football like most he probably wanted to toughen up his image a bit.
Does that make him a wug?
We're far removed from Ozzie and Harriet

http://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/ap-names-unitas.jpg?w=1024&h=768
The hair on the back of my neck stood up and I got all nostalgic. It made me want to draw some plays in my food that's currently sitting in front of me.

 
I perceive Kaep as a stupid looking guy not a dangerous one. A bunch of tattoos and stupid looking clothes says stupid to me.
I'm a fairly successful, college educated, tax paying, good-credit-having American, and I think it's stupid not to have tattoos. What a waste of flesh.

 
I remember quite a few instances where stories have broken and you think " no way, its not anywhere near what it appears to be .... "

Then 6 weeks later, you realize it was all that and way more.

Will this thing be anything? Probably not ... but if there is a next story on Kap, people will say see, he's not learned anything, he's at it again ....

Tread carefully Kap - be respectable .....
There's a ton of truth to the "once you get started" thing.

I always contended the Randy Moss was about 30% as much a bad guy as everyone else thought. Same for Terrell Owens. Not saying they didn't have problems or make mistakes. I'm saying that they were perceived (there's that word again) as worse than they were.

Once something happens, there is a target on you. Everyone loves a train wreck. If Terrell Owens yells at a coach, you can bet the camera is on him next time so the next thing he does is caught. (that another guy could do too but not be seen). It's the way the world works.

But I think it's also why some of the smarter coaches like Belichick take chances on players like Moss or Corey Dillon. They know that the players aren't as bad as they're portrayed.

For Kaepernick, even if he emerges 100% clean from this (like it's looking like), he'll be a little higher on the radar of the TMZ type reporters of the world that'll be watching him way more closely than they will a guy like Russell Wilson. Three weeks from now, Russell Wilson might do the exact same negative thing Kaepernick does and you never hear a peep while Kaepernick does it and the whole world hears because he was higher up on the radar.

Is it fair? No way. But it's how it is.

J
Well, given Wilson being as unabashed towards his faith as Tebow is, it would be bigger fall from grace if he did do something foolish.

 
If anything CK is a "drugstore thug" just like many of the white kids you see at suburban malls. CK has a white mom, was raised in the 92% white Fond du Lac, Wisconsin. Was a model student. When he started playing D-1 football like most he probably wanted to toughen up his image a bit.
Does that make him a wug?
We're far removed from Ozzie and Harriet

http://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/ap-names-unitas.jpg?w=1024&h=768
Not that far. Which is kind of the point I think...

J
I'll give you one Peyton for this:

http://www.footballcardgallery.com/1976_Topps/18/James_Harris.jpg

 
I remember quite a few instances where stories have broken and you think " no way, its not anywhere near what it appears to be .... "

Then 6 weeks later, you realize it was all that and way more.

Will this thing be anything? Probably not ... but if there is a next story on Kap, people will say see, he's not learned anything, he's at it again ....

Tread carefully Kap - be respectable .....
There's a ton of truth to the "once you get started" thing.

I always contended the Randy Moss was about 30% as much a bad guy as everyone else thought. Same for Terrell Owens. Not saying they didn't have problems or make mistakes. I'm saying that they were perceived (there's that word again) as worse than they were.

Once something happens, there is a target on you. Everyone loves a train wreck. If Terrell Owens yells at a coach, you can bet the camera is on him next time so the next thing he does is caught. (that another guy could do too but not be seen). It's the way the world works.

But I think it's also why some of the smarter coaches like Belichick take chances on players like Moss or Corey Dillon. They know that the players aren't as bad as they're portrayed.

For Kaepernick, even if he emerges 100% clean from this (like it's looking like), he'll be a little higher on the radar of the TMZ type reporters of the world that'll be watching him way more closely than they will a guy like Russell Wilson. Three weeks from now, Russell Wilson might do the exact same negative thing Kaepernick does and you never hear a peep while Kaepernick does it and the whole world hears because he was higher up on the radar.

Is it fair? No way. But it's how it is.

J
Well, given Wilson being as unabashed towards his faith as Tebow is, it would be bigger fall from grace if he did do something foolish.
True. I'm just saying he has more leeway and is less likely to get noticed then the guy who is higher up the radar.

So while it's not fair, Kaepernick will be higher up on the "radar" of the TMZ types. (who care way more about splash than substance). So there is some wisdom in the "tread lightly" angle. Even if it's unfair.

J

 
Interesting opinion piece. Its point it that now is the time for the 49ers to sign Kaepernick to a longterm contract, because the price will go up as time goes by.
He also said (and I paraphrase), the 49ers should be sure that CK will represent what they perceive as a franchise QB and face of the franchise, before giving him a long term deal.

 
I've been saying it forever, if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck.....

The guy is a thug. Plain and simple. If this turns out to be nothing, there will be something else. You can just see he's bad news.
There are bad guys with tats and good guys with tats.He had a 4.0 GPA as a prep, which doesn't exactly fit the classic thug, gang banger profile.

I don't recall you predicting this in specific terms.

I'd ask what future offense you are predicting, but we have been asked to not speculate so let's not go there.
Tats? I have a tat. It was a combination of things. And I never called him a gang banger. I said you could tell be the way he was presenting himself who he was trying to appeal to. I also said I won't be a bit surprised if we start hearing that he's gotten himself into off the field trouble. We'll have to wait and see if I was right. Yet.
The 4.0 GPA carries more weight with me about things like character and work ethic. Address that if you would. Does that scream thug?
I think time will tell if you were more accurate judging him by his GPA or I was by judging him by the way he carried himself.
The question I asked you to consider was, in your experience, how many 4.0 students turn out to be "thugs". And how many "thugs" had 4.0 GPAs? We don't have to wait for that, since the answer can simply be found within your experience. If you know of no exceptions, or only extremely rare ones, that is a kind of answer.
Richard Sherman?

 
I perceive Kaep as a stupid looking guy not a dangerous one. A bunch of tattoos and stupid looking clothes says stupid to me.
I'm a fairly successful, college educated, tax paying, good-credit-having American, and I think it's stupid not to have tattoos. What a waste of flesh.
:thumbup: That's great. So we can each think the other looks dumb, but it would take more than just that to judge each other's character.

 
I remember quite a few instances where stories have broken and you think " no way, its not anywhere near what it appears to be .... "

Then 6 weeks later, you realize it was all that and way more.

Will this thing be anything? Probably not ... but if there is a next story on Kap, people will say see, he's not learned anything, he's at it again ....

Tread carefully Kap - be respectable .....
There's a ton of truth to the "once you get started" thing.

I always contended the Randy Moss was about 30% as much a bad guy as everyone else thought. Same for Terrell Owens. Not saying they didn't have problems or make mistakes. I'm saying that they were perceived (there's that word again) as worse than they were.

Once something happens, there is a target on you. Everyone loves a train wreck. If Terrell Owens yells at a coach, you can bet the camera is on him next time so the next thing he does is caught. (that another guy could do too but not be seen). It's the way the world works.

But I think it's also why some of the smarter coaches like Belichick take chances on players like Moss or Corey Dillon. They know that the players aren't as bad as they're portrayed.

For Kaepernick, even if he emerges 100% clean from this (like it's looking like), he'll be a little higher on the radar of the TMZ type reporters of the world that'll be watching him way more closely than they will a guy like Russell Wilson. Three weeks from now, Russell Wilson might do the exact same negative thing Kaepernick does and you never hear a peep while Kaepernick does it and the whole world hears because he was higher up on the radar.

Is it fair? No way. But it's how it is.

J
Well, given Wilson being as unabashed towards his faith as Tebow is, it would be bigger fall from grace if he did do something foolish.
I'd like to think that Americans aren't (any longer) so naive to think that an overtly religious person is morally greater than someone that isn't overtly religious. Queen Isabella was pretty devout too, right?

 
I remember quite a few instances where stories have broken and you think " no way, its not anywhere near what it appears to be .... "

Then 6 weeks later, you realize it was all that and way more.

Will this thing be anything? Probably not ... but if there is a next story on Kap, people will say see, he's not learned anything, he's at it again ....

Tread carefully Kap - be respectable .....
There's a ton of truth to the "once you get started" thing.

I always contended the Randy Moss was about 30% as much a bad guy as everyone else thought. Same for Terrell Owens. Not saying they didn't have problems or make mistakes. I'm saying that they were perceived (there's that word again) as worse than they were.

Once something happens, there is a target on you. Everyone loves a train wreck. If Terrell Owens yells at a coach, you can bet the camera is on him next time so the next thing he does is caught. (that another guy could do too but not be seen). It's the way the world works.

But I think it's also why some of the smarter coaches like Belichick take chances on players like Moss or Corey Dillon. They know that the players aren't as bad as they're portrayed.

For Kaepernick, even if he emerges 100% clean from this (like it's looking like), he'll be a little higher on the radar of the TMZ type reporters of the world that'll be watching him way more closely than they will a guy like Russell Wilson. Three weeks from now, Russell Wilson might do the exact same negative thing Kaepernick does and you never hear a peep while Kaepernick does it and the whole world hears because he was higher up on the radar.

Is it fair? No way. But it's how it is.

J
Well, given Wilson being as unabashed towards his faith as Tebow is, it would be bigger fall from grace if he did do something foolish.
True. I'm just saying he has more leeway and is less likely to get noticed then the guy who is higher up the radar.

So while it's not fair, Kaepernick will be higher up on the "radar" of the TMZ types. (who care way more about splash than substance). So there is some wisdom in the "tread lightly" angle. Even if it's unfair.

J
Kaep hasn't been beat up in the press as much as Alex Smith has, and even worse, Steve Young. I think Young identifies more with Smith when it comes to the Bay Area media. This was all about QB play though, and Young took a beating trying to follow Montana. All kinds of rumors circled about him that weren't true, like Young being gay for instance. It was pretty damn toxic to the point where Young remembers those days like it was yesterday.

Now, we have TMZ, people who don't understand what a thug is, color of skin, clothing etc, bringing the noise. The only thing Kaep can do is what, do something that makes other feel safer? Like work with charities and children? He does that already.

I mean, we're whittling this down to tattoos and attire. After work attire. The freedom to chose what you wear. The freedom to chose getting inked. Has he earned that freedom? He's earned just as much as Andrew Luck and Russell Wilson has. Guess what? They chose on how they appear also. It's America man. Why do people have a problem with this?

 
He's racist garbage. He beat a man blind because he was Asian. He made no amends after he became famous.

ETA: I'd much rather have my daughter date Kapernick than Wahlberg.
If he truly beat up a man just because he's Asian and did it before he got famous, how did he not get convicted for it? Was it self defense?
http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2012/01/mark-wahlberg-was-a-drug-dealer-and-was-charged-with-attempted-murder-before-forming-marky-mark-and-the-funky-bunch/

Maybe it's hypocritical, because Lord knows I've cheered for football players that weren't model citizens, but I can't bring my self to see anything he is in.

 
He's racist garbage. He beat a man blind because he was Asian. He made no amends after he became famous.

ETA: I'd much rather have my daughter date Kapernick than Wahlberg.
If he truly beat up a man just because he's Asian and did it before he got famous, how did he not get convicted for it? Was it self defense?
http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2012/01/mark-wahlberg-was-a-drug-dealer-and-was-charged-with-attempted-murder-before-forming-marky-mark-and-the-funky-bunch/

Maybe it's hypocritical, because Lord knows I've cheered for football players that weren't model citizens, but I can't bring my self to see anything he is in.
...but he's invincible.

 
He's racist garbage. He beat a man blind because he was Asian. He made no amends after he became famous.

ETA: I'd much rather have my daughter date Kapernick than Wahlberg.
I don't know if I judge him that much. Wahlberg is more or less a product of his environment, Boston.
Not to completely hijack, but if Wahlberg had kicked the guy some bucks, I'd have no problem with it. He's been reluctantly interviewed about it and basically claimed that because he did 45 days in jail, everything is Even Steven and he owes nothing else to the guy.

 
Love the title change to go with my fresh new warning point. Some people really hate America here.
We could just start talking about Mark Wahlberg full time in here, since he actually, you know, did something illegal in his life.
Yeah, but he's white. Where is the fun in that?
He's Irish, which is borderline
According to Wiki, his parents are a mixture of Irish, English, Swedish, and the kicker: French-Canadian!

But let's see here:

Assaults and conviction

Wahlberg had been in trouble 20–25 times with the Boston Police Department in his youth. By age 13, Wahlberg had developed an addiction to cocaine and other substances.[9][10] At fifteen, civil action was filed against Wahlberg for his involvement in two separate incidents of harassing African-American children (the first some siblings and the second a group of black school children on a field trip), by throwing rocks and shouting racial epithets.[11] At 16, Wahlberg approached a middle-aged Vietnamese man on the street and, using a large wooden stick, knocked him unconscious while yelling a racial epithet. That same day, he also attacked another Vietnamese man, leaving the victim permanently blind in one eye.[12][13]

For these crimes, Wahlberg was charged with attempted murder, pleaded guilty to assault, and was sentenced to two years in state prison at Boston's Deer Island House of Correction. He served 45 days of his sentence.[12][14] In another incident, the 21-year-old Wahlberg fractured the jaw of a neighbor in an unprovoked attack.[15] Commenting in 2006 on his past crimes, Wahlberg has stated: "I did a lot of things that I regret, and I have certainly paid for my mistakes." He said the right thing to do would be to try to find the blinded man and make amends, and admitted he has not done so, but added that he was no longer burdened by guilt: "You have to go and ask for forgiveness and it wasn't until I really started doing good and doing right by other people, as well as myself, that I really started to feel that guilt go away. So I don't have a problem going to sleep at night. I feel good when I wake up in the morning."[16]

After going to prison for assault, he decided to improve his behavior. According to Wahlberg, "As soon as I began that life of crime, there was always a voice in my head telling me I was going to end up in jail. Three of my brothers had done time. My sister went to prison so many times I lost count. Finally I was there, locked up with the kind of guys I'd always wanted to be like. Now I'd earned my stripes and I was just like them, and I realized it wasn't what I wanted at all. I'd ended up in the worst place I could possibly imagine and I never wanted to go back. First of all, I had to learn to stay on the straight and narrow." Wahlberg first relied on the guidance of his parish priest to turn his back on crime. He told his street gang that he was leaving them and had "some serious fights" with them over it. The actor commented in 2009: "I've made a lot of mistakes in my life and I've done bad things, but I never blamed my upbringing for that. I never behaved like a victim so that I would have a convenient reason for victimizing others. Everything I did wrong was my own fault. I was taught the difference between right and wrong at an early age. I take full responsibility."[17]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Wahlberg

I dunno. tim has banned Mel Gibson for less.

 

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