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Moulds looking to play for Philly (1 Viewer)
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Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
That would be correct.Pinkston would be the odd man out as he really isn't a slot receiver, unless they move Gaffney or Brown in a 3 WR set. I doubt they'd do that to Brown as that might hurt his confidence and his development towards becoming a legit #1 WR option.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
I actually think if Pinkston is healthy he'll be the nominal "starter" because of his seniority and his abilities as a deep threat. But in terms of the number of snaps each WR plays, I would agree that Gaffney stands an excellent chance of seeing more time on the field than Pinky.
Birdie048
Footballguy
I think this is the best summary of the situation. Moulds would up the Eagles WR group. He may not have the same level of skill he had 4 years ago, but he improves the Philly WR group by bringing experience and attitude. The issues Moulds had last season were internal and directed at the QB situation. I recall when it happened. He said nothing to the media about it. He wanted the team to win and he felt Holcomb was the better way to go. He expressed his view to those in charge. They disagreed. Nothing more.
I don't think he will get the $7M he is looking for. As for having a "large family" to support, I never heard of this.... but it has no play in this situatiuon. He wants to play somewhere else.
Between Moulds and Walker or a potential Rookie WR, who makes the most sense to Eagles Mgt to bring in to help build the WR's?
Moulds is the best answer in Philly. Whether that happens, we will see!
zadok
Footballguy
Moulds no longer deep threat
By KC Joyner
ESPN Insider
Archive
The only player to have generated significant interest around the league despite not being a free agent is Eric Moulds. Moulds has a $10.85 million cap number for the 2006 season, and the Bills have given him permission to seek a trade. As many as seven teams reportedly are interested in him.
One of the reasons Moulds wants to be traded is his unhappiness with the way he was used during the 2005 season. Moulds did catch 81 passes last year, ranking him 15th in the league in that category. However, he gained only 816 yards, 33rd in the league, and the 10.1 yards per reception ranked him 74th in the AFC. These numbers are down from his 2004 totals of 88 catches, 1,043 yards and 11.9 yards per reception.
The reduction in production would seem to suggest that Moulds has a legitimate complaint. I decided to conduct a metric analysis to see how his 2005 numbers compared with those of previous seasons.
First, here are his receiving metrics from the 2005 season:
Eric Moulds- 2005
Depth Attempts Comp Yards TD INT Pen Yds/Att
Short 91 68 545 2 1 9 6.1
Medium 20 10 167 0 1 4 8.6
Deep 17 3 104 2 1 20 7.3
Total 128 81 816 4 3 33 6.6
Now take a look at Moulds' 2004 metrics:
Eric Moulds- 2004
Depth Att Comp Yds TD INT Pen Yds/Att
Short 100 68 644 1 1 5 6.5
Medium 24 14 208 2 2 -5 8.5
Deep 24 6 191 2 3 28 9.1
Total 148 88 1043 5 6 28 7.2
These numbers are largely identical, particularly if we keep in mind that Moulds played in only 15 games in 2005 because of his suspension for violating team policy.
It might look as though the Bills were using Moulds more as a short pass receiver in 2005, but his role was almost identical in 2004. Last season, Moulds averaged 6.1 short pass attempts per game, compared with 6.3 in 2004. Moulds actually helped himself in this category by improving his short pass completion percentage by nearly 7percent from 2004 to 2005.
Moulds wants people to believe his vertical pass attempts were reduced last year, and he is technically correct. It was reduced from 48 medium/deep pass attempts in 2004 to 37 in 2005, but you have to factor in the difference in games. Once you factor that in, it only amounts to a .5 difference in attempts per game.
The reason Moulds doesn't catch many deep passes is he simply doesn't get open deep. One of the things I measure on every pass play is the degree to which the receiver was open. I track the number of steps a receiver was open by and whether the defender had what I term good coverage or tight coverage.
Calculating the number of steps is fairly basic. I simply look for the separation between the receiver and defender when the pass is thrown. Determining the quality of the coverage is more subjective. When a defender has good coverage, it will take a perfect pass by the quarterback to beat him. When a defender has tight coverage, even a perfect pass likely will not beat him.
During the 2004 season, Moulds ranked 85th out of 87 qualifying receivers in tight-good coverage percentage on deep passes. Moulds had tight or good coverage against him on 62.5 percent of his deep pass attempts that season, meaning it was highly unlikely the pass was going to be completed because he simply wasn't open.
His deep pass coverage metrics weren't much better in 2005. Moulds had tight or good coverage against him on nine of his 17 deep pass attempts, which equates to 53 percent of his deep passes.
Moulds still can be a significant player for the right team, provided he can accept the role his current skill set dictates he should fill. The Bills certainly still could use him as a possession receiver. The Texans are rumored to be very interested in Moulds, and they certainly could use a strong No. 2 receiver to complement Andre Johnson. The Eagles, Chiefs, 49ers, Broncos and Seahawks also certainly could use a reliable possession receiver.
The ball is in Moulds' court. If he markets himself as a possession receiver, he will have plenty of options. If he insists on being paid as a vertical threat, most teams are going to lose interest.
By KC Joyner
ESPN Insider
Archive
The only player to have generated significant interest around the league despite not being a free agent is Eric Moulds. Moulds has a $10.85 million cap number for the 2006 season, and the Bills have given him permission to seek a trade. As many as seven teams reportedly are interested in him.
One of the reasons Moulds wants to be traded is his unhappiness with the way he was used during the 2005 season. Moulds did catch 81 passes last year, ranking him 15th in the league in that category. However, he gained only 816 yards, 33rd in the league, and the 10.1 yards per reception ranked him 74th in the AFC. These numbers are down from his 2004 totals of 88 catches, 1,043 yards and 11.9 yards per reception.
The reduction in production would seem to suggest that Moulds has a legitimate complaint. I decided to conduct a metric analysis to see how his 2005 numbers compared with those of previous seasons.
First, here are his receiving metrics from the 2005 season:
Eric Moulds- 2005
Depth Attempts Comp Yards TD INT Pen Yds/Att
Short 91 68 545 2 1 9 6.1
Medium 20 10 167 0 1 4 8.6
Deep 17 3 104 2 1 20 7.3
Total 128 81 816 4 3 33 6.6
Now take a look at Moulds' 2004 metrics:
Eric Moulds- 2004
Depth Att Comp Yds TD INT Pen Yds/Att
Short 100 68 644 1 1 5 6.5
Medium 24 14 208 2 2 -5 8.5
Deep 24 6 191 2 3 28 9.1
Total 148 88 1043 5 6 28 7.2
These numbers are largely identical, particularly if we keep in mind that Moulds played in only 15 games in 2005 because of his suspension for violating team policy.
It might look as though the Bills were using Moulds more as a short pass receiver in 2005, but his role was almost identical in 2004. Last season, Moulds averaged 6.1 short pass attempts per game, compared with 6.3 in 2004. Moulds actually helped himself in this category by improving his short pass completion percentage by nearly 7percent from 2004 to 2005.
Moulds wants people to believe his vertical pass attempts were reduced last year, and he is technically correct. It was reduced from 48 medium/deep pass attempts in 2004 to 37 in 2005, but you have to factor in the difference in games. Once you factor that in, it only amounts to a .5 difference in attempts per game.
The reason Moulds doesn't catch many deep passes is he simply doesn't get open deep. One of the things I measure on every pass play is the degree to which the receiver was open. I track the number of steps a receiver was open by and whether the defender had what I term good coverage or tight coverage.
Calculating the number of steps is fairly basic. I simply look for the separation between the receiver and defender when the pass is thrown. Determining the quality of the coverage is more subjective. When a defender has good coverage, it will take a perfect pass by the quarterback to beat him. When a defender has tight coverage, even a perfect pass likely will not beat him.
During the 2004 season, Moulds ranked 85th out of 87 qualifying receivers in tight-good coverage percentage on deep passes. Moulds had tight or good coverage against him on 62.5 percent of his deep pass attempts that season, meaning it was highly unlikely the pass was going to be completed because he simply wasn't open.
His deep pass coverage metrics weren't much better in 2005. Moulds had tight or good coverage against him on nine of his 17 deep pass attempts, which equates to 53 percent of his deep passes.
Moulds still can be a significant player for the right team, provided he can accept the role his current skill set dictates he should fill. The Bills certainly still could use him as a possession receiver. The Texans are rumored to be very interested in Moulds, and they certainly could use a strong No. 2 receiver to complement Andre Johnson. The Eagles, Chiefs, 49ers, Broncos and Seahawks also certainly could use a reliable possession receiver.
The ball is in Moulds' court. If he markets himself as a possession receiver, he will have plenty of options. If he insists on being paid as a vertical threat, most teams are going to lose interest.
SouthJersey
Footballguy
It was just reported on Philly sports radio that Moulds is gonna sign with Houston.
he's not a free agent
Noahs Troopers
Footballguy
Is starting false rumors acceptable in the Shark Pool? It's looking pretty brown in here. :X
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Until the Eagles win a championship, your statement can't really be argued against. That said, four 11+ win seasons without a WR1 with playoff wins in every season suggests they CAN be among the short list of contenders without a true WR1.But the big misnomer from your statement is the lack of other weapons. Brian Westbrook is an electric playmaker when healthy, and it was Westy NOT TO that was the key to the 2004 playoff run. L.J. Smith, for his lack of blocking prowess, is also a real weapon at TE. And lastly, the team has 10 draft picks to put to work. I assure you the Eagles won't have trouble scoring points if McNabb stays healthy. Whether we can stop teams consistently is another issue.
zadok
Footballguy
Ding ding! Winner!
Edit to add:Removing the embarassing shutout by Seattle last year: without McNabb and Owens (and Westbrook for part of the time), the Eagles scored:
17, 19, 23, 17, 21 and 20 points.
That was with Reggie Brown, Greg Lewis and Billy McMullen as your top WRs and McMahon at QB...
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redman
Footballguy
I like both LJ and Westbrook, but I'm not impressed with Westbrook's ability to rush the ball overall, and LJ is certainly in no position to lead the passing offense like I think they need him to given the WR's. Lewis may end up being a good WR, but he, like Bryant and all the others have a lot to prove in that regard. Don't you agree that going into this season this appears to be the weakest receiving corps in that division?
Jason Wood
Zoo York
No question about that...but when you have the best QB in the division [by a mile], it makes up for a lot of that disparity.
it's a myth
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Remains to be seen...Reid swears he's learned his lesson but until we see it on the field, I'm not going to emphatically make claims one way or another.
SouthJersey
Footballguy
Do some reseach before accusing someone of starting false rumors.
Englishteacher
Footballguy
meaning the order of performers: 1. Lee Evans 2. Eric Moulds 3. crap Eagles have
Noahs Troopers
Footballguy
The fact is Moulds can't be signed.
He can only be traded so give it up. 
Englishteacher
Footballguy
you guys should head over to the Texans sign Mould thread and see how a quality WR is appreciated. The pessimism in this thread I just can't understand. I guess it has to do with that Santa Claus thing.
P.S. have fun watching your crappy WRing core costing your team a chance at the Super Bowl AGAIN this year. 
stupid Birds
P.S. have fun watching your crappy WRing core costing your team a chance at the Super Bowl AGAIN this year.
stupid Birds
SouthJersey
Footballguy
He's agreed to a new contract with the Texans. So now it comes down to the trade between Houston and Buffalo.The fact is no matter what team he ends up with he is gonna sign a new contract.The fact is Moulds can't be signed.
And i didn't know every post here is taken literally. The point i was making with my original post is that its being reported here that Moulds is gonna go to Houston.
Weiner Dog
Footballguy
From fanball.com...
The Texans have agreed to terms on a trade with the Bills that will net them wide receiver Eric Moulds, according to the Houston ESPN radio affiliate, ESPN 790. The station also reports that Moulds has agreed to a multi-year contract with the Texans, and once he signs the deal the trade will become official.
The Texans have agreed to terms on a trade with the Bills that will net them wide receiver Eric Moulds, according to the Houston ESPN radio affiliate, ESPN 790. The station also reports that Moulds has agreed to a multi-year contract with the Texans, and once he signs the deal the trade will become official.
