Muhammad Cartoon Contest in Garland Tx. Hundreds of ISIS In America (2 Viewers)

[Willie Neslon]

What is the upside in hosting a muhammad comic contest? Who thought that was a goods idea?

It's called free speech, and a big middle finger to all those who can't handle it.

You can wear what you want too but a jacket made of meat is not a good choice for a jungle hike.

Texas ain't a jungle mate

and a meat jacket is no cartoon

 

[RedmondLonghorn]

What don't you believe? That what you described isn't free speech?

 

[timschochet]

What don't you believe? That what you described isn't free speech?

Of course its free speech. I don't believe that the intent of the people who did it was to fight for free speech.

 

[RedmondLonghorn]

What don't you believe? That what you described isn't free speech?

Of course its free speech. I don't believe that the intent of the people who did it was to fight for free speech.

So what?

 

[Smack Tripper]

What is the upside in hosting a muhammad comic contest? Who thought that was a goods idea?

It's called free speech, and a big middle finger to all those who can't handle it.

You can wear what you want too but a jacket made of meat is not a good choice for a jungle hike.

Texas ain't a jungle mate

and a meat jacket is no cartoon

I can appreciate your greater point In a context of time and place. That is at the heart of legally defined obscenity for instance. So this contest might be insensitive for downtown Baghdad let's say. But This IS Texas. Free speech aside which should be a guarantee and a given, it's not like they staged this in Detroit or Paterson nj or another Predominantly or majorly dominant Muslim enclave where there was an attempt to be deliberately antagonistic.

 

[timschochet]

What don't you believe? That what you described isn't free speech?

Of course its free speech. I don't believe that the intent of the people who did it was to fight for free speech.

So what?

I already expressed what I thought. I wrote it was callous and stupid. I'll stand by that.

 

[RedmondLonghorn]

What don't you believe? That what you described isn't free speech?

Of course its free speech. I don't believe that the intent of the people who did it was to fight for free speech.

So what?

I already expressed what I thought. I wrote it was callous and stupid. I'll stand by that.

Free speech protections aren't necessary for popular or uncontroversial speech, Einstein.

 

[timschochet]

What don't you believe? That what you described isn't free speech?

Of course its free speech. I don't believe that the intent of the people who did it was to fight for free speech.

So what?

I already expressed what I thought. I wrote it was callous and stupid. I'll stand by that.

Free speech protections aren't necessary for popular or uncontroversial speech, Einstein.

Hey Isaac Newton, when did I attack free speech here?

 

[RedmondLonghorn]

I don't believe that the intent of the people who did it was to fight for free speech.

 

[Willie Neslon]

What is the upside in hosting a muhammad comic contest? Who thought that was a goods idea?

It's called free speech, and a big middle finger to all those who can't handle it.

You can wear what you want too but a jacket made of meat is not a good choice for a jungle hike.

Texas ain't a jungle mate

and a meat jacket is no cartoon

I can appreciate your greater point In a context of time and place. That is at the heart of legally defined obscenity for instance. So this contest might be insensitive for downtown Baghdad let's say.

But This IS Texas. Free speech aside which should be a guarantee and a given, it's not like they staged this in Detroit or Paterson nj or another Predominantly or majorly dominant Muslim enclave.

I'm all for free speech of course, I just don't understand potentially inviting death just because you can. Those cartoons make a small amount of people want to kill the people responsible for them. Yes, that's crazy and wrong but that doesn't mean you announce and hold a big cartoon contest event. You can have your contest but if you die was it worth it? For me, no.

 

[Smack Tripper]

What is the upside in hosting a muhammad comic contest? Who thought that was a goods idea?

It's called free speech, and a big middle finger to all those who can't handle it.

You can wear what you want too but a jacket made of meat is not a good choice for a jungle hike.

Texas ain't a jungle mate

and a meat jacket is no cartoon

I can appreciate your greater point In a context of time and place. That is at the heart of legally defined obscenity for instance. So this contest might be insensitive for downtown Baghdad let's say.But This IS Texas. Free speech aside which should be a guarantee and a given, it's not like they staged this in Detroit or Paterson nj or another Predominantly or majorly dominant Muslim enclave.

I'm all for free speech of course, I just don't understand potentially inviting death just because you can. Those cartoons make a small amount of people want to kill the people responsible for them. Yes, that's crazy and wrong but that doesn't mean you announce and hold a big cartoon contest event. You can have your contest but if you die was it worth it? For me, no.

Can't say this is the hill I would want to fall on but i also wouldn't expect grave risk in Gardner Texas at such an event.

 

[timschochet]

I don't believe that the intent of the people who did it was to fight for free speech.

And I don't.

I support their right to do it. If somebody wanted to pass a law making it illegal for anyone to insult Islam, I would fight against that.

But that doesn't make me support them. And when they say their intent is to promote free speech, I don't believe it. I think it's to incite a reaction, and I think it's because they hate Islam, and I think that's lousy. And stupid too.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

What is the upside in hosting a muhammad comic contest? Who thought that was a goods idea?

It's called free speech, and a big middle finger to all those who can't handle it.

You can wear what you want too but a jacket made of meat is not a good choice for a jungle hike.

Texas ain't a jungle mate

and a meat jacket is no cartoon

I can appreciate your greater point In a context of time and place. That is at the heart of legally defined obscenity for instance. So this contest might be insensitive for downtown Baghdad let's say.

But This IS Texas. Free speech aside which should be a guarantee and a given, it's not like they staged this in Detroit or Paterson nj or another Predominantly or majorly dominant Muslim enclave.

I'm all for free speech of course, I just don't understand potentially inviting death just because you can. Those cartoons make a small amount of people want to kill the people responsible for them. Yes, that's crazy and wrong but that doesn't mean you announce and hold a big cartoon contest event. You can have your contest but if you die was it worth it? For me, no.

Once this is the practice, isn't there then a natural incentive to those so willing to use violence to keep people from speaking about just about anything?

 

[Willie Neslon]

What is the upside in hosting a muhammad comic contest? Who thought that was a goods idea?

It's called free speech, and a big middle finger to all those who can't handle it.

You can wear what you want too but a jacket made of meat is not a good choice for a jungle hike.

Texas ain't a jungle mate

and a meat jacket is no cartoon

I can appreciate your greater point In a context of time and place. That is at the heart of legally defined obscenity for instance. So this contest might be insensitive for downtown Baghdad let's say.But This IS Texas. Free speech aside which should be a guarantee and a given, it's not like they staged this in Detroit or Paterson nj or another Predominantly or majorly dominant Muslim enclave.

I'm all for free speech of course, I just don't understand potentially inviting death just because you can. Those cartoons make a small amount of people want to kill the people responsible for them. Yes, that's crazy and wrong but that doesn't mean you announce and hold a big cartoon contest event. You can have your contest but if you die was it worth it? For me, no.

Can't say this is the hill I would want to fall on but i also wouldn't expect grave risk in Gardner Texas at such an event.

What about where you live? Would you paint a muhammad cartoon on big sheet and hang it in front of your house? Would you take a picture of it and then post the picture all over the internet along with your address?

 

[chauncey]

I'm confused. What exactly happened:

Muslim terrorists attacked innocent Americans at a cartoon contest?

American nutjobs attacked innocent Muslims at a religious event?

No violence actually occurred, the mainstream media is just creating drama now that Baltimore is back to normal?

Since everyone else in here is debating free speech I'll fill you in. From a quick watch of the youtube link, the audience is a bunch of old white people (and one uncle tom) so the shooters must be either Muslim or black. Based on the lack of protests and rioting about police brutality we can eliminate the shooters being black. That leads us to deduce that the shooters were from the religion of peace.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I'm confused. What exactly happened:

Muslim terrorists attacked innocent Americans at a cartoon contest?

American nutjobs attacked innocent Muslims at a religious event?

No violence actually occurred, the mainstream media is just creating drama now that Baltimore is back to normal?

Since everyone else in here is debating free speech I'll fill you in. From a quick watch of the youtube link, the audience is a bunch of old white people (and one uncle tom) so the shooters must be either Muslim or black. Based on the lack of protests and rioting about police brutality we can eliminate the shooters being black. That leads us to deduce that the shooters were from the religion of peace.

Oddly enough it hasn't officially been reported who the perps were yet.

 

[Willie Neslon]

What is the upside in hosting a muhammad comic contest? Who thought that was a goods idea?

It's called free speech, and a big middle finger to all those who can't handle it.

You can wear what you want too but a jacket made of meat is not a good choice for a jungle hike.

Texas ain't a jungle mate

and a meat jacket is no cartoon

I can appreciate your greater point In a context of time and place. That is at the heart of legally defined obscenity for instance. So this contest might be insensitive for downtown Baghdad let's say.

But This IS Texas. Free speech aside which should be a guarantee and a given, it's not like they staged this in Detroit or Paterson nj or another Predominantly or majorly dominant Muslim enclave.

I'm all for free speech of course, I just don't understand potentially inviting death just because you can. Those cartoons make a small amount of people want to kill the people responsible for them. Yes, that's crazy and wrong but that doesn't mean you announce and hold a big cartoon contest event. You can have your contest but if you die was it worth it? For me, no.

Once this is the practice, isn't there then a natural incentive to those so willing to use violence to keep people from speaking about just about anything?

This muhammad cartoon stuff seems to be uniquely upsetting.

 

[timschochet]

I'm confused. What exactly happened:

Muslim terrorists attacked innocent Americans at a cartoon contest?

American nutjobs attacked innocent Muslims at a religious event?

No violence actually occurred, the mainstream media is just creating drama now that Baltimore is back to normal?

Since everyone else in here is debating free speech I'll fill you in. From a quick watch of the youtube link, the audience is a bunch of old white people (and one uncle tom) so the shooters must be either Muslim or black. Based on the lack of protests and rioting about police brutality we can eliminate the shooters being black. That leads us to deduce that the shooters were from the religion of peace.

Nobody here is debating free speech. Nobody here has attacked free speech.

 

[RedmondLonghorn]

What is the upside in hosting a muhammad comic contest? Who thought that was a goods idea?

It's called free speech, and a big middle finger to all those who can't handle it.

You can wear what you want too but a jacket made of meat is not a good choice for a jungle hike.

Texas ain't a jungle mate

and a meat jacket is no cartoon

I can appreciate your greater point In a context of time and place. That is at the heart of legally defined obscenity for instance. So this contest might be insensitive for downtown Baghdad let's say.But This IS Texas. Free speech aside which should be a guarantee and a given, it's not like they staged this in Detroit or Paterson nj or another Predominantly or majorly dominant Muslim enclave.

I'm all for free speech of course, I just don't understand potentially inviting death just because you can. Those cartoons make a small amount of people want to kill the people responsible for them. Yes, that's crazy and wrong but that doesn't mean you announce and hold a big cartoon contest event. You can have your contest but if you die was it worth it? For me, no.

Can't say this is the hill I would want to fall on but i also wouldn't expect grave risk in Gardner Texas at such an event.

Gardner?

 

[RedmondLonghorn]

And when they say their intent is to promote free speech, I don't believe it. I think it's to incite a reaction

Why can't it be both?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

What is the upside in hosting a muhammad comic contest? Who thought that was a goods idea?

It's called free speech, and a big middle finger to all those who can't handle it.

You can wear what you want too but a jacket made of meat is not a good choice for a jungle hike.

Texas ain't a jungle mate

and a meat jacket is no cartoon

I can appreciate your greater point In a context of time and place. That is at the heart of legally defined obscenity for instance. So this contest might be insensitive for downtown Baghdad let's say.

But This IS Texas. Free speech aside which should be a guarantee and a given, it's not like they staged this in Detroit or Paterson nj or another Predominantly or majorly dominant Muslim enclave.

I'm all for free speech of course, I just don't understand potentially inviting death just because you can. Those cartoons make a small amount of people want to kill the people responsible for them. Yes, that's crazy and wrong but that doesn't mean you announce and hold a big cartoon contest event. You can have your contest but if you die was it worth it? For me, no.

Once this is the practice, isn't there then a natural incentive to those so willing to use violence to keep people from speaking about just about anything?

This muhammad cartoon stuff seems to be uniquely upsetting.

Not necessarily. Once it works, obviously others should try it. Maybe some folks would like to see armed men stand at the corners where mosques are, you know, just to let muslims know they should keep it non-offensive. This ok?

 

[cstu]

What is the upside in hosting a muhammad comic contest? Who thought that was a goods idea?

"My religion is less crazy than your religion!"

"My religion doesn't promote religious comic contests..."

" "

 

[Willie Neslon]

What is the upside in hosting a muhammad comic contest? Who thought that was a goods idea?

It's called free speech, and a big middle finger to all those who can't handle it.

You can wear what you want too but a jacket made of meat is not a good choice for a jungle hike.

Texas ain't a jungle mate

and a meat jacket is no cartoon

I can appreciate your greater point In a context of time and place. That is at the heart of legally defined obscenity for instance. So this contest might be insensitive for downtown Baghdad let's say.

But This IS Texas. Free speech aside which should be a guarantee and a given, it's not like they staged this in Detroit or Paterson nj or another Predominantly or majorly dominant Muslim enclave.

I'm all for free speech of course, I just don't understand potentially inviting death just because you can. Those cartoons make a small amount of people want to kill the people responsible for them. Yes, that's crazy and wrong but that doesn't mean you announce and hold a big cartoon contest event. You can have your contest but if you die was it worth it? For me, no.

Once this is the practice, isn't there then a natural incentive to those so willing to use violence to keep people from speaking about just about anything?

This muhammad cartoon stuff seems to be uniquely upsetting.

Not necessarily. Once it works, obviously others should try it. Maybe some folks would like to see armed men stand at the corners where mosques are, you know, just to let muslims know they should keep it non-offensive. This ok?

I'm not defending the people who kill because of cartoons. I'm simply saying why poke the hornets nest just because you can? And I'm 95% sure the people who are a-ok with the muhammad cartoon contest have a problem with burning the american flag.

 

[squistion]

Based on the lack of protests and rioting about police brutality we can eliminate the shooters being black.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

...

This muhammad cartoon stuff seems to be uniquely upsetting.

Not necessarily. Once it works, obviously others should try it. Maybe some folks would like to see armed men stand at the corners where mosques are, you know, just to let muslims know they should keep it non-offensive. This ok?

I'm not defending the people who kill because of cartoons. I'm simply saying why poke the hornets nest just because you can? And I'm 95% sure the people who are a-ok with the muhammad cartoon contest have a problem with burning the american flag.

I know, I realize that. - I'm just saying the 1st Amendment keeps competing crazies from using actual violence to impose their will. - If people feel intimidated from speaking others will take up the tack to protect their own passionate beliefs. We have a good thing here but we could lose it.

 

[Willie Neslon]

What if you worked for a small town newspaper and the editor-in-chief comes in one day and says, "from now on we are putting a Muhammad cartoon on the front page of every edition. Why, you ask? Because this is America and we have free speech. That's why." Would you be cool with that? Would you still work there and have no worries going into the office every day?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

What if you worked for a small town newspaper and the editor-in-chief comes in one day and says, "from now on we are putting a Muhammad cartoon on the front page of every edition. Why, you ask? Because this is America and we have free speech. That's why." Would you be cool with that? Would you still work there and have no worries going into the office every day?

If you were a book publisher and Salman Rushdie walked in and handed you Satanic Verses, would you publish it?

 

[Willie Neslon]

...

This muhammad cartoon stuff seems to be uniquely upsetting.

Not necessarily. Once it works, obviously others should try it. Maybe some folks would like to see armed men stand at the corners where mosques are, you know, just to let muslims know they should keep it non-offensive. This ok?

I'm not defending the people who kill because of cartoons. I'm simply saying why poke the hornets nest just because you can? And I'm 95% sure the people who are a-ok with the muhammad cartoon contest have a problem with burning the american flag.

I know, I realize that. - I'm just saying the 1st Amendment keeps competing crazies from using actual violence to impose their will. - If people feel intimidated from speaking others will take up the tack to protect their own passionate beliefs. We have a good thing here but we could lose it.

The 1st amendment is about not allowing government to pass certain laws.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

...

This muhammad cartoon stuff seems to be uniquely upsetting.

Not necessarily. Once it works, obviously others should try it. Maybe some folks would like to see armed men stand at the corners where mosques are, you know, just to let muslims know they should keep it non-offensive. This ok?

I'm not defending the people who kill because of cartoons. I'm simply saying why poke the hornets nest just because you can? And I'm 95% sure the people who are a-ok with the muhammad cartoon contest have a problem with burning the american flag.

I know, I realize that. - I'm just saying the 1st Amendment keeps competing crazies from using actual violence to impose their will. - If people feel intimidated from speaking others will take up the tack to protect their own passionate beliefs. We have a good thing here but we could lose it.

The 1st amendment is about not allowing government to pass certain laws.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The mohammed cartoon event was held in a public building. - But at any rate we all respect each other's right to speak. If we voluntarily stay silent to avoid threat of harm, why shouldn't every KKK'er, religious zealot, anarchist, communist, nationalist, and any other extremist just start using the same tactic to get their way?

 

[squistion]

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/05/04/muslims-defend-pam-geller-s-right-to-hate.html?via=twitter_page

Muslims Defend Pam Gellers Right To Hate

Both before Pam Gellers Draw Mohammed event and after the attack Sunday night, Muslim American leaders vigorously defended her right to draw whatever she wants.

 

[Willie Neslon]

What if you worked for a small town newspaper and the editor-in-chief comes in one day and says, "from now on we are putting a Muhammad cartoon on the front page of every edition. Why, you ask? Because this is America and we have free speech. That's why." Would you be cool with that? Would you still work there and have no worries going into the office every day?

If you were a book publisher and Salman Rushdie walked in and handed you Satanic Verses, would you publish it?

I'd ask him why he's trying to get me to publish a book that's already been published. That was a unique case and back then people didn't see that whole thing coming. I would not play with fire whatever my job was and whatever the hypothetical is. I want to live a long life and making a point over cartoons and free speech isn't worth losing my life over. Our way of life is not at stake because we can't hang posters in libraries showing Muhammad break dancing with Alf.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/05/04/muslims-defend-pam-geller-s-right-to-hate.html?via=twitter_page

Muslims Defend Pam Gellers Right To Hate

Both before Pam Gellers Draw Mohammed event and after the attack Sunday night, Muslim American leaders vigorously defended her right to draw whatever she wants.

Lots of sad things here, but one is that if not for these 2 sob's, the story would have been that not one muslim or anyone else showed up to protest this event. In comparison to the hystrionics at the islamic event a couple months ago.

 

[Willie Neslon]

...

This muhammad cartoon stuff seems to be uniquely upsetting.

Not necessarily. Once it works, obviously others should try it. Maybe some folks would like to see armed men stand at the corners where mosques are, you know, just to let muslims know they should keep it non-offensive. This ok?

I'm not defending the people who kill because of cartoons. I'm simply saying why poke the hornets nest just because you can? And I'm 95% sure the people who are a-ok with the muhammad cartoon contest have a problem with burning the american flag.

I know, I realize that. - I'm just saying the 1st Amendment keeps competing crazies from using actual violence to impose their will. - If people feel intimidated from speaking others will take up the tack to protect their own passionate beliefs. We have a good thing here but we could lose it.

The 1st amendment is about not allowing government to pass certain laws.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The mohammed cartoon event was held in a public building. - But at any rate we all respect each other's right to speak. If we voluntarily stay silent to avoid threat of harm, why shouldn't every KKK'er, religious zealot, anarchist, communist, nationalist, and any other extremist just start using the same tactic to get their way?

Because there's no blasphemous expression that will illicit a murderous reaction in a segment of those groups like the Muhammad cartoons. Nobody is saying you can't draw them and hold contests, I'm just saying it's stupid. Knock yourself out. If you're killed it will be awful and tragic and wrong and illegal but none of that will matter to you.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

it's because they hate

 

[flysack]

The only way to solve this thread is for someone to host a "draw a giant dong on Jesus" contest in Kansas or Missouri.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

I'm confused. What exactly happened:

Muslim terrorists attacked innocent Americans at a cartoon contest?

American nutjobs attacked innocent Muslims at a religious event?

No violence actually occurred, the mainstream media is just creating drama now that Baltimore is back to normal?

Since everyone else in here is debating free speech I'll fill you in. From a quick watch of the youtube link, the audience is a bunch of old white people (and one uncle tom) so the shooters must be either Muslim or black. Based on the lack of protests and rioting about police brutality we can eliminate the shooters being black. That leads us to deduce that the shooters were from the religion of peace.

 

[squidrope]

The only way to solve this thread is for someone to host a "draw a giant dong on Jesus" contest in Kansas or Missouri.

 

[HellToupee]

The only way to solve this thread is for someone to host a "draw a giant dong on Jesus" contest in Kansas or Missouri.

who would be offended the son of god had a huge pecker?

 

[AAABatteries]

I hate to tell y'all, but images of Mohammed aren't the only thing that islamists feel to be profane about the west.

They think Kate Upton is fat too?

 

[matuski]

Christians dumb enough to troll Muslims.

Muslims dumb enough to take the bait.

Everyone is a winner here.

 

[sho nuff]

What is the upside in hosting a muhammad comic contest? Who thought that was a goods idea?

It's called free speech, and a big middle finger to all those who can't handle it.

You can wear what you want too but a jacket made of meat is not a good choice for a jungle hike.

The folks who put this on knew exactly what they were doing. They were making a point, and they knew full well it would probably elicit a terrorist act by some Muslim whack-job who doesn't realize he lives in a country where free speech is part of the territory. And now there are two less of those whack-jobs. There's your upside I guess.

And a security man was wounded. And police had to put themselves at risk. And the public was put at risk. And in addition to all that, it will probably cost the local government thousands of dollars before it's all done, if not more. All to supposedly protect freedom of speech. Which I don't even believe. I think they're deliberately trying to insult Muslims and incite violence. It's stupid and callous IMO.

I think we should have done more of this to be honest. There's not many things worth making a point of, or fighting for. Freedom of speech is one of them.

I think there needs to be a campaign explaining freedom of speech to some people.

 

[Hov34]

What don't you believe? That what you described isn't free speech?

Of course its free speech. I don't believe that the intent of the people who did it was to fight for free speech.

So what?

So let's dance?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I hate to tell y'all, but images of Mohammed aren't the only thing that islamists feel to be profane about the west.

They think Kate Upton is fat too?

Let's put it this way, the islamists think she looks best draped in a tablecloth or in front of a pile of stones.

 

[timschochet]

What is the upside in hosting a muhammad comic contest? Who thought that was a goods idea?

It's called free speech, and a big middle finger to all those who can't handle it.

You can wear what you want too but a jacket made of meat is not a good choice for a jungle hike.

The folks who put this on knew exactly what they were doing. They were making a point, and they knew full well it would probably elicit a terrorist act by some Muslim whack-job who doesn't realize he lives in a country where free speech is part of the territory. And now there are two less of those whack-jobs. There's your upside I guess.

And a security man was wounded. And police had to put themselves at risk. And the public was put at risk. And in addition to all that, it will probably cost the local government thousands of dollars before it's all done, if not more. All to supposedly protect freedom of speech. Which I don't even believe. I think they're deliberately trying to insult Muslims and incite violence. It's stupid and callous IMO.

I think we should have done more of this to be honest. There's not many things worth making a point of, or fighting for. Freedom of speech is one of them.

I think there needs to be a campaign explaining freedom of speech to some people.

Start with that Redmond guy.

 

[Clifford]

What is the upside in hosting a muhammad comic contest? Who thought that was a goods idea?

It's called free speech, and a big middle finger to all those who can't handle it.

You can wear what you want too but a jacket made of meat is not a good choice for a jungle hike.

So we're reducing Islamists to animals who act based solely on instinct?

People who shoot other people over cartoon depictions of a religious figure are animals. Actually that's insulting to animals. Animals only kill out of need, not pouting.

 

[glvsav37]

What if you worked for a small town newspaper and the editor-in-chief comes in one day and says, "from now on we are putting a Muhammad cartoon on the front page of every edition. Why, you ask? Because this is America and we have free speech. That's why." Would you be cool with that? Would you still work there and have no worries going into the office every day?

I would not agree, but that is our right as an American to do so. And therefore what is expected, in a sane country of laws and order, is that people would appeal with their wallet and voice and stop buying the newspaper and stop supporting its advertisers. Likewise, I would expect an organized rally or gathering of citizens to voice their opinion and then move on. Then, in any capitalist society, the paper would go out of business and therefore the cartoons on the front cover would fade with it.

or....

I don't like what you are doing in that paper with _______________ (cartoon, advertisers, opinions, headlines, etc ) and I'm going to blow up your offices!!!

These guys set the bait and the rat bit. Simple as that. Yes, did it put certain people in danger...yes. But its hard to defend Islam as completely sane religion after incidents like this.

 

[Smack Tripper]

What is the upside in hosting a muhammad comic contest? Who thought that was a goods idea?

It's called free speech, and a big middle finger to all those who can't handle it.

You can wear what you want too but a jacket made of meat is not a good choice for a jungle hike.

Texas ain't a jungle mate

and a meat jacket is no cartoon

I can appreciate your greater point In a context of time and place. That is at the heart of legally defined obscenity for instance. So this contest might be insensitive for downtown Baghdad let's say.But This IS Texas. Free speech aside which should be a guarantee and a given, it's not like they staged this in Detroit or Paterson nj or another Predominantly or majorly dominant Muslim enclave.

I'm all for free speech of course, I just don't understand potentially inviting death just because you can. Those cartoons make a small amount of people want to kill the people responsible for them. Yes, that's crazy and wrong but that doesn't mean you announce and hold a big cartoon contest event. You can have your contest but if you die was it worth it? For me, no.

Can't say this is the hill I would want to fall on but i also wouldn't expect grave risk in Gardner Texas at such an event.

What about where you live? Would you paint a muhammad cartoon on big sheet and hang it in front of your house? Would you take a picture of it and then post the picture all over the internet along with your address?

No, but I also assume youre not Willie Nelson, so the internet is not inherently rooted in disclosure.

I live in the suburbs, I would expect nothing beyond the local zoning busy bodies if I put anything on a sheet and hung it on my house.

 

[BigJohn]

I'm as big of a supporter of free speech as there is but how would these hillbillies have reacted if an Islamic group began desecrating American flags in the other side of the street. They would have lost their ####.

Just because you have the right to do something doesn't always mean it's the right thing to do.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Gardner?

I was watching the Yankees during this

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I'm as big of a supporter of free speech as there is but how would these hillbillies have reacted if an Islamic group began desecrating American flags in the other side of the street. They would have lost their ####.

Just because you have the right to do something doesn't always mean it's the right thing to do.

We do follow the rules though, don't we? Flag burning is a right. People showing up with AK47's probably leads to others showing up with AK47's. The answer isn't to shoot em up but to let everyone speak. If the mohammed event had been shut down voluntarily, aside from morality and all that good stuff we all believe in, why shouldn't some nationalist group shoot up a mosque to shut them up as well? At that point it works.