MVP Through ten weeks (1 Viewer)

[Zow]

Definitely some odd names to be tossed up there this here. Here are my top 5.

1. Albert Haynesworth - the best player on the best team. It's odd for a defensive player to be considered, but this guy does so much on the field and completely disrupts on offense. Means a ton to his team.

2. Kurt Warner - When healthy, he is one of the best 5 QBs ever. Yeah, that's a bold statement. Incredible what he can do for Arizona. With Leinart in there they are 3-6.

3. Adrian Peterson - Somehow the Vikes are 5-4 and he is the only player they have on the offense. Best RB in the league right now hands down. He'd be even better with another coach.

4. Kerry Collins - Not sure who else to put here, but Collins has been everything the best team could have asked for.

5. Peyton Manning - has the Colts contending despite a big dropoff in talent.

Honestly though, most valuable "person" in the league is Jeff Fischer. Never seen a coach have such an impact.

 

[Ghost Rider]

I agree with the top 3 (although I would put them in a different order), but the rest of my top 5 would include Portis and either Michael Turner or P. Rivers.

Peyton Manning has struggled too much at times this season for me to consider him a real candidate. His brother, Eli, is playing really well, but not awesome enough to really warrant the top 5...yet.

Kerry Collins wouldn't make my top 25. I give him credit for playing the way he is this year, but let's get serious.

 

[Buffaloes]

Kurt Warner

 

[Zow]

I agree with the top 3 (although I would put them in a different order), but the rest of my top 5 would include Portis and either Michael Turner or P. Rivers. Peyton Manning has struggled too much at times this season for me to consider him a real candidate. His brother, Eli, is playing really well, but not awesome enough to really warrant the top 5...yet. Kerry Collins wouldn't make my top 25. I give him credit for playing the way he is this year, but let's get serious.

A lot of the pundits are thinking Collins though. He fits the old formula ala Rich Gannon, etc. I thought about Eli and Portis as well. Portis would be my six. Eli is a good player on a team filled with them (although I guess same goes for Collins - very similar situations).

 

[teamroc]

I agree with the top 3 (although I would put them in a different order), but the rest of my top 5 would include Portis and either Michael Turner or P. Rivers. Peyton Manning has struggled too much at times this season for me to consider him a real candidate. His brother, Eli, is playing really well, but not awesome enough to really warrant the top 5...yet. Kerry Collins wouldn't make my top 25. I give him credit for playing the way he is this year, but let's get serious.

Agreed I'd take Chris Johnson over Collins. For MVP I view it as "X player carried his team". Haynesworth yes. Warner a little. Boldin/Fitz do a lot of carrying also. AP for sure. Collins no. Manning a little. Eli? Ehh the D carries them.I'd have to go with Haynesworth or AP. AP is the Vikings, they'd be 2-7 without him, maybe worse. On pace for what 1,800 yards? Warner is a dark horse, I want to see him keep it up though.

 

[BigDave]

I would add PORTIS. He literally told that team to jump on his back and they di after the first game.

I agree with Warner as well. He makes that air attack second to none,

 

[teamroc]

I agree with the top 3 (although I would put them in a different order), but the rest of my top 5 would include Portis and either Michael Turner or P. Rivers. Peyton Manning has struggled too much at times this season for me to consider him a real candidate. His brother, Eli, is playing really well, but not awesome enough to really warrant the top 5...yet. Kerry Collins wouldn't make my top 25. I give him credit for playing the way he is this year, but let's get serious.

A lot of the pundits are thinking Collins though. He fits the old formula ala Rich Gannon, etc. I thought about Eli and Portis as well. Portis would be my six. Eli is a good player on a team filled with them (although I guess same goes for Collins - very similar situations).

Pundits? Who? Woody Paige brought it up on around the horn and everyone laughed at him. Collins hasn't carried the Titans. He won them 1 game. He's filled in nicely. But to claim they wouldn't be this good without Collins? Lets be realistic. They could have a ham sandwich at QB and be 6-4.

 

[Ghost Rider]

In eight games, Kerry Collins has thrown a grand total of 5 TD passes and has only gone over 200 yards in a game once. Like I said, he is not a serious MVP candidate, and anyone who thinks he is, I would have to question their football sense. Sorry.

 

[millertyme1]

Warner

Haynesworth or Johnson (No shot in hell I'd put Collins ahead of either. He's been a great game manager on a team with a great D and run O (really not much different than Dilfer during the Ravens championship year).

The entire Giants offensive line

Portis or Peterson

 

[CalmLikeABomb]

Peterson first (did you see the sheer will to score on that go ahead TD this past week) He's THE man.

Warner second - where would ARI be w/o him at QB. He makes plays on that offense that allow them to compete and win. With Lienart they are back with the other three in this division.

 

[:bag:]

hopefully they will not give it to haynesworth. thug.

 

[Ahmad Rashad]

Peterson first (did you see the sheer will to score on that go ahead TD this past week) He's THE man.Warner second - where would ARI be w/o him at QB. He makes plays on that offense that allow them to compete and win. With Lienart they are back with the other three in this division.

AD all the way. Anybody who saw him carry his team on his shoulders against the Packers and so far this year would have to agree that the Vikes would be nowhere without him.Warner's been great, but it's hard to give him all the credit when he has Fitz/Boldin/Breaston to throw to.

 

[StrikeS2k]

Warner's been great, but it's hard to give him all the credit when he has Fitz/Boldin/Breaston to throw to.

Leinart had all those guys too and all it did was get him benched.

 

[encaitar]

If he stays healthy all year and the Vikings make the playoffs, I'd have to go with Peterson. They don't win 4 games this year without him.

Warner would be my second choice. Playing great football and making plays when they count.

 

[r0llin_game]

MVP: Kurt Warner, ARZ. 2nd in the NFL in passing yards and TDs, 1st in rating and completion %, and only 6 INT's (9 total turnovers I believe). Most importantly, should lead the Cardinals to their 1st playoff appearance since the 1998 season.

Coach of the Year: Tie; Mike Smith, ATL. Mike Smith has lead Atlanta to a 6-3 record when the Falcons were unanimously selected as the worst team in the NFC South in the preseason. Michael Turner and Jerious Norwood have help Atlanta become the NFL's 2nd best rushing team, and the defense has been improving each week.

John Harbaugh, BALT. Not many people thought Baltimore could be tied with Pittsburgh this late into the season. Young Joe Flacco has improved greatly his last few outings and even thought Willis McGahee has been hampered by the injury bug, rookie Ray Rice and fullback Le'Ron McClain have help lead Baltimore to the third best rushing attack in the league. The defense looks rejuvenated and Ray Lewis is back in standard regular season beast mode.

Offensive Player of the Year: Anquan Boldin, ARZ. Yes there could be many people you could put here, but in 7 games, he has 10 TD's, with the next receiver four TD's away. He's ran the wildcat a few times which has been a very productive and has done this with wanting an extension or being traded. Flat out Anquan can play.

Defensive Player of the Year: Joey Porter, MIA. The Dolphins are now running a 3-4 scheme, in which, Porter excelled in when he was a Steeler. Porter leads the league in sacks with 12 and has forced 3 fumbles, and helps lead Miami to being a top 10 defense against the run.

 

[kroyrunner89]

it has to be warner at this point i think. the cardinals are actually going to make the playoffs and he's been great.

 

[cobalt_27]

I agree with the top 3 (although I would put them in a different order), but the rest of my top 5 would include Portis and either Michael Turner or P. Rivers. Peyton Manning has struggled too much at times this season for me to consider him a real candidate. His brother, Eli, is playing really well, but not awesome enough to really warrant the top 5...yet. Kerry Collins wouldn't make my top 25. I give him credit for playing the way he is this year, but let's get serious.

A lot of the pundits are thinking Collins though. He fits the old formula ala Rich Gannon, etc. I thought about Eli and Portis as well. Portis would be my six. Eli is a good player on a team filled with them (although I guess same goes for Collins - very similar situations).

Gannon threw for, like, 4600 yards or something insane like that. This is no ala Rich Gannon sort of season for Collins. Trent Dilfer-esque, perhaps. But, Collins is not getting an MVP anytime in the near or distant future.

 

[JSH21]

Warner and it's not even close.

 

[Ozymandias]

Warner.

Peterson is the only other candidate.

For coach, I have to go with Belichick, however much I dislike the man. He lost the #1 QB in the league, lost his #1 RB, they rank middle of the pack in most statistical categories, yet they find a way to be 6-3.

 

[JMJ]

For MVP I view it as "X player carried his team". Warner a little. Boldin/Fitz do a lot of carrying also.

Do you really think Boldin and Fitz would both be putting up THESE numbers without Warner? Put Leinart in there and I say they both push 1,000 yards (one just over, one just under maybe), but no way they have 10 and 7 TDs a piece and no way they are on pace for 1,300 yards EACH!And, 0% chance they are 6-3.

 

[Chase Stuart]

I understand the allure of Haynesworth, but it's ridiculous to say that a DT on the 8th best rushing defense in the league is the MVP. Talk about stretching just to give it to someone on the team with the best record.

It's the most valuable player of the league award -- a league with 32 teams. It's not the MVP of the best team in the league award.

 

[Ripleys]

Warner or Portis

 

[Smeagol]

1. Warner

2. Haynesworth

3. Peterson

No way Collins wins. He is on pace for a whopping 9 TDs and 2700 yards. That running game is a lot more valuable.

 

[p00h]

Warner or Portis

this has to be the short list at this stage of the season...

 

[gigantor]

Chris Johnson and Lendale Co-MVP

 

[Ozymandias]

Chris Johnson and Lendale Co-MVP

Well if you're going to play that game, then you'd better say "all 47 players on the Titans as co-MVP's".Perhaps you didn't notice that it was singular rather than plural.

 

[RaiderBones]

Peterson first (did you see the sheer will to score on that go ahead TD this past week) He's THE man.Warner second - where would ARI be w/o him at QB. He makes plays on that offense that allow them to compete and win. With Lienart they are back with the other three in this division.

AD all the way. Anybody who saw him carry his team on his shoulders against the Packers and so far this year would have to agree that the Vikes would be nowhere without him.Warner's been great, but it's hard to give him all the credit when he has Fitz/Boldin/Breaston to throw to.

I would have to give it to Warner. Warner doesn't get enought credit. With those same three WR's Leinart can't win with them so that says something about Warner's ability. Warner is my vote.

 

[NeverEnough]

MVP: Kurt Warner, ARZ. 2nd in the NFL in passing yards and TDs, 1st in rating and completion %, and only 6 INT's (9 total turnovers I believe). Most importantly, should lead the Cardinals to their 1st playoff appearance since the 1998 season.Coach of the Year: Tie; Mike Smith, ATL. Mike Smith has lead Atlanta to a 6-3 record when the Falcons were unanimously selected as the worst team in the NFC South in the preseason. Michael Turner and Jerious Norwood have help Atlanta become the NFL's 2nd best rushing team, and the defense has been improving each week.John Harbaugh, BALT. Not many people thought Baltimore could be tied with Pittsburgh this late into the season. Young Joe Flacco has improved greatly his last few outings and even thought Willis McGahee has been hampered by the injury bug, rookie Ray Rice and fullback Le'Ron McClain have help lead Baltimore to the third best rushing attack in the league. The defense looks rejuvenated and Ray Lewis is back in standard regular season beast mode.Offensive Player of the Year: Anquan Boldin, ARZ. Yes there could be many people you could put here, but in 7 games, he has 10 TD's, with the next receiver four TD's away. He's ran the wildcat a few times which has been a very productive and has done this with wanting an extension or being traded. Flat out Anquan can play.Defensive Player of the Year: Joey Porter, MIA. The Dolphins are now running a 3-4 scheme, in which, Porter excelled in when he was a Steeler. Porter leads the league in sacks with 12 and has forced 3 fumbles, and helps lead Miami to being a top 10 defense against the run.

Excellent post

 

[thehornet]

Now this is going to sound crazy, but MATT RYAN deserves at least the smallest consideration for MVP. Atlanta is 6-3. I dont think anyone expected them to win 4 games. It really is amazing what he is doing as a rookie.

 

[Cool in the pocket]

MVP: Kurt Warner, ARZ. 2nd in the NFL in passing yards and TDs, 1st in rating and completion %, and only 6 INT's (9 total turnovers I believe). Most importantly, should lead the Cardinals to their 1st playoff appearance since the 1998 season.Coach of the Year: Tie; Mike Smith, ATL. Mike Smith has lead Atlanta to a 6-3 record when the Falcons were unanimously selected as the worst team in the NFC South in the preseason. Michael Turner and Jerious Norwood have help Atlanta become the NFL's 2nd best rushing team, and the defense has been improving each week.John Harbaugh, BALT. Not many people thought Baltimore could be tied with Pittsburgh this late into the season. Young Joe Flacco has improved greatly his last few outings and even thought Willis McGahee has been hampered by the injury bug, rookie Ray Rice and fullback Le'Ron McClain have help lead Baltimore to the third best rushing attack in the league. The defense looks rejuvenated and Ray Lewis is back in standard regular season beast mode.Offensive Player of the Year: Anquan Boldin, ARZ. Yes there could be many people you could put here, but in 7 games, he has 10 TD's, with the next receiver four TD's away. He's ran the wildcat a few times which has been a very productive and has done this with wanting an extension or being traded. Flat out Anquan can play.Defensive Player of the Year: Joey Porter, MIA. The Dolphins are now running a 3-4 scheme, in which, Porter excelled in when he was a Steeler. Porter leads the league in sacks with 12 and has forced 3 fumbles, and helps lead Miami to being a top 10 defense against the run.

Excellent post

I think Jeff Fisher has to be on the list with these guys as coach of the year candidates. It's not like his team is stacked with talent.

 

[CrossEyed]

Warner and it's not even close.

 

[CrossEyed]

For MVP I view it as "X player carried his team". Warner a little. Boldin/Fitz do a lot of carrying also.

Do you really think Boldin and Fitz would both be putting up THESE numbers without Warner? Put Leinart in there and I say they both push 1,000 yards (one just over, one just under maybe), but no way they have 10 and 7 TDs a piece and no way they are on pace for 1,300 yards EACH!And, 0% chance they are 6-3.

Don't forget Breaston is on pace for 1,100.

 

[Desert_Power]

2. Kurt Warner - When healthy, he is one of the best 5 QBs ever. Yeah, that's a bold statement. Incredible what he can do for Arizona. With Leinart in there they are 3-6.

This is a ridiculous statement. Warner has only excelled in places with outstanding wide receivers that he throws to on nearly every down. He is not one of the greatest quarterbacks ever, not even close.

 

[CrossEyed]

2. Kurt Warner - When healthy, he is one of the best 5 QBs ever. Yeah, that's a bold statement. Incredible what he can do for Arizona. With Leinart in there they are 3-6.

This is a ridiculous statement. Warner has only excelled in places with outstanding wide receivers that he throws to on nearly every down. He is not one of the greatest quarterbacks ever, not even close.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions. Mine is that you are wrong.It's not like Warner just chucks the ball out there and the receivers go and get it. He's one of the most accurate passers in the history of the league. He's completed 70.6% of his passes this year. He's a career 65.7% passer. That doesn't just happen because you've got good WRs. And the fact that he's in throw first offenses makes it that much more impressive. Everyone knows he's going to throw the ball and he still completes 65% of his passes.

 

[David Yudkin]

I understand the allure of Haynesworth, but it's ridiculous to say that a DT on the 8th best rushing defense in the league is the MVP. Talk about stretching just to give it to someone on the team with the best record.It's the most valuable player of the league award -- a league with 32 teams. It's not the MVP of the best team in the league award.

It usually is the best offensive player on one of the teams with the best records award. Forwhatever reason, the "most valuable" part of the title doesn't usually get a ton of consideration (or not as much as it should).And that usually tranlates to a RB or a QB. A lot will depend on just how ahead of the field some teams are record wise. There is still so much of the season to play that it is hard to project what could happen.Arizona could win out and end up 13-3 and Warner would probably win in a romp. They could also go 3-4 and end up a so-so 9-7 but with the Giants 15-1 or 14-2 (not saying that will happen) at which point Manning (with some better stats over the second half) or Jacobs (he's on pace for 1500 rushing yards and double digit TDs) could get a lot of votes.Historically, MVPs almost always come from playoff teams and usually from teams with 12 or more wins. I agree that even if the Titans had an exceptional record, for now it would be hard to come up with a legit MVP candidate from Tennessee.In the past 20 years, the only players to win MVP were QBs and RBs (using AP voting). The average win total was 12.7 (with 18 MVP winners on teams with at least 12 wins). Only Barry Sanders co-won on a 9 win team (rushing for over 2,000 yards). Marshall Faulk was the only one on a 10-6 team, but he had nearly 2200 yards from scrimmage and 26 TD.

 

[mike11162]

I'd have to put McNabb somewhere in the top 5. He has a great versatile RB to work with, but who else does he really have to throw to? And when Westbrook gets shut down, McNabb still usually finds a way to move the offense. Maybe in past years you can argue Westbrook carried the Eagles more, but this year it's McNabb that's carrying the team, now that he's fully healthy again. I'd even say that he's done more than Warner given the difference in talent level each has at WR and Philly's schedule and division are both tougher than Arizona's. McNabb has been producing with a bunch of #3 and #4 WRs and his projected top 2 WRs hurt most of the year, and without Westbrook for all or part of several games. Warner has 2 All-Pro WRs and a rising star 3rd WR to go with them. I'm kind of surprised McNabb hasn't gotten any mention so far given what he's done with what he's had around him at the skill positions this year.

 

[Breesisdaman]

Portis or ADP

 

[David Yudkin]

I'd have to put McNabb somewhere in the top 5. He has a great versatile RB to work with, but who else does he really have to throw to? And when Westbrook gets shut down, McNabb still usually finds a way to move the offense. Maybe in past years you can argue Westbrook carried the Eagles more, but this year it's McNabb that's carrying the team, now that he's fully healthy again. I'd even say that he's done more than Warner given the difference in talent level each has at WR and Philly's schedule and division are both tougher than Arizona's. McNabb has been producing with a bunch of #3 and #4 WRs and his projected top 2 WRs hurt most of the year, and without Westbrook for all or part of several games. Warner has 2 All-Pro WRs and a rising star 3rd WR to go with them. I'm kind of surprised McNabb hasn't gotten any mention so far given what he's done with what he's had around him at the skill positions this year.

The Eagles could easily finish last in their division and that certainly isn't helping McNabb's MVP candidacy.

 

[Moe Green]

No Matt Ryan nominations?

 

[thehornet]

No Matt Ryan nominations?

i gave him cosideration above.

 

[eric rymer]

Definitely some odd names to be tossed up there this here. Here are my top 5. 1. Albert Haynesworth - the best player on the best team. It's odd for a defensive player to be considered, but this guy does so much on the field and completely disrupts on offense. Means a ton to his team. 2. Kurt Warner - When healthy, he is one of the best 5 QBs ever. Yeah, that's a bold statement. Incredible what he can do for Arizona. With Leinart in there they are 3-6. 3. Adrian Peterson - Somehow the Vikes are 5-4 and he is the only player they have on the offense. Best RB in the league right now hands down. He'd be even better with another coach. 4. Kerry Collins - Not sure who else to put here, but Collins has been everything the best team could have asked for. 5. Peyton Manning - has the Colts contending despite a big dropoff in talent. Honestly though, most valuable "person" in the league is Jeff Fischer. Never seen a coach have such an impact.

I really like the first three and will not argue those at all. 4. Clinton Portis....After the preseason and week one people were already calling for Zorn's job and saying Campbell was a bust. CP has made this team a contender and has shown up against every opponent.5. This one is pretty tough. I really want to say Brees, but NO is 0-4 on the road and I need more than that. I'm going to say Ryan or Flacco. Honestly never thought either team had a prayer this year and these two rooks have their teams up for a division title. I thought Fisher should have won coach of the year last year. To get that team to the playoff is quite amazing with marginal talent on offense.

 

[EBF]

Kurt Warner

Eli Manning

Manning's stats aren't that great, but the Giants are 8-1 and he's the reigning Super Bowl MVP on the defending champs.

 

[Zow]

I understand the allure of Haynesworth, but it's ridiculous to say that a DT on the 8th best rushing defense in the league is the MVP. Talk about stretching just to give it to someone on the team with the best record.It's the most valuable player of the league award -- a league with 32 teams. It's not the MVP of the best team in the league award.

Have you watched Tennessee games? Guy blows up offenses.

 

[Zow]

I am agreeing with you guys now on Collins. Just the general formula in the past has been best team + QB/RB. Toss in the "backup to great starter factor" and I considered him an option as well as ESWPN commentators over the weekend.

 

[EBF]

I understand the allure of Haynesworth, but it's ridiculous to say that a DT on the 8th best rushing defense in the league is the MVP. Talk about stretching just to give it to someone on the team with the best record.It's the most valuable player of the league award -- a league with 32 teams. It's not the MVP of the best team in the league award.

Have you watched Tennessee games? Guy blows up offenses.

This might be true, but a DT has no chance of winning MVP. The MVP is sort of like the Heisman Trophy. If you aren't a QB or a RB, you have very little hope of winning it no matter how good you are.

 

[sinatravolta]

There's another "should" vs. "will" component here. I do think Haynesworth should be either the winner or very close at this point. Even going back to last year - when he was out it was a totally different defense. And here he's been leading the way again - and they're 9-0 because of their D.

Giants are the other great team but they are well-rounded all-around. I would guess that maybe Justin Tuck would be my pick as their most valuable - but he's less of a clear standout from the rest of the team.

Obviously it's not limited to the top few teams - so I think the best other options are Adrian Peterson and Clinton Portis - they both carry their offenses and their teams have winning records. Warner does not in my opinion carry his offense - he gets to throw a lot - and he has 2 of the best WRs in the game - so he puts up big numbers. Also being in the worst division in football helps. Put any other Top 10 QB on that team and they'd put up big numbers too.

If their teams finish strong - I think you'd have to look at Brees and Cutler.

 

[r0llin_game]

Excellent post

TY =)

I think Jeff Fisher has to be on the list with these guys as coach of the year candidates. It's not like his team is stacked with talent.

The main two reasons I didn't put Fisher or Coughlin on here was;Fisher: Not only did his team make the playoffs last season, but they're defensive talent at the beginning of the year was underrated, but very talented nonetheless. I'm a huge Colts fan and keep tabs on Tennessee quite a bit. I wasn't shocked at Tulloch taking over the starting job from Fowler (went to H.S. with Stephen) and Finnegan has always been a solid CB. Defensive line definately one of the best in the league. I had the Colts and Titans above Jacksonville too so this wasn't too shocking that Jacksonville had this decline (not to mention that they lost their defensive coordinator that was....Mike Smith) . The only true surprise has been the efficient play of Kerry Collins which is the better QB for this team right now.Coughlin: Winning the Super Bowl means you should easily be one of the best teams in the NFL. Yes they lost alot of talent at the DE position, but to me, that's not as big of a loss that you might think. Look how much they blitz. Don't you think that helps the DE's get pressure on the QB. The retained pretty much the same offense also. Don't get me wrong as I'm not trying to take anything away from either coach or team, it's just when you have two teams with rookie head coaches, rookie quarterbacks with expectations around 3-5 wins each, I think that makes a better case than either Coughlin or Fisher.Next to come, and to start more of a debate.... Offensive and defensive rookies of the year.

 

[Ace333]

I like Kurt Warner right now.

I will say Peterson is really coming on, but if I had to choose, Warner.

 

[kylechoffman]

Definitely some odd names to be tossed up there this here. Here are my top 5. 1. Albert Haynesworth - the best player on the best team. It's odd for a defensive player to be considered, but this guy does so much on the field and completely disrupts on offense. Means a ton to his team. 2. Kurt Warner - When healthy, he is one of the best 5 QBs ever. Yeah, that's a bold statement. Incredible what he can do for Arizona. With Leinart in there they are 3-6. 3. Adrian Peterson - Somehow the Vikes are 5-4 and he is the only player they have on the offense. Best RB in the league right now hands down. He'd be even better with another coach. 4. Kerry Collins - Not sure who else to put here, but Collins has been everything the best team could have asked for. 5. Peyton Manning - has the Colts contending despite a big dropoff in talent. Honestly though, most valuable "person" in the league is Jeff Fischer. Never seen a coach have such an impact.

5. This one is pretty tough. I really want to say Brees, but NO is 0-4 on the road and I need more than that. I'm going to say Ryan or Flacco. Honestly never thought either team had a prayer this year and these two rooks have their teams up for a division title.

On paper they are 0-4 but one could argue 1-4 considering the "home game" at Wimbledon wasnt at home. No crowd support, home field adv.My vote goes to ADP or Warner - they are the reasons their teams are where they are, moreso warner as ADP has had a few mediocre games. Other considerations - Turner or Ryan for taking their team to a place it hasnt been in a while.Didnt Brees and LT2 split the title in 2006?

 

[jurb26]

So Portis goes on bye and everyone forgets about him?

The list is short. It's Warner or Portis, then everyone else a good bit behind. I'd give the edge to Warner at this point due to Portis' down game vs. Pitt. Portis can easily jump to the top of the list with a strong performance vs. Dal this week however.