My “Get off my lawn” moment (1 Viewer)

[Bronco Billy]

I’d like to offer something up that bothers me and I’m curious how others feel.

This is aimed at the veteran and more knowledgable people here, and it really hit home on the Kraft thread after news broke he got hurt in practice on Thursday.

Almost immediately and with no foundation whatsoever, there were some saying he was headed to IR or that he was sitting until week 6 after GB’s week 5 bye with no facts to support those positions. It’s clear how inaccurate they were because Kraft is active today.

Now Kraft may not score well today, we don’t know that right now. That’s not the point of this thread. It’s some here - and it’s across more than a few threads - that post unfounded opinions as facts. Everybody has an absolute right to an opinion, I’m not disputing that. It’s taking the position that the opinion is being portrayed as absolute truth when there is nothing or not much to support that being the case.

That’s fine if the whole board were nothing but experienced FFers with enough knowledge base to understand that the nature of the opinion, but it’s not. There are a whole lot of people here who are just learning FF or don’t have time to follow news items closely, and they very well could react badly based upon poor information - maybe like thinking they should drop Kraft and pick up a lesser TE in this specific instance.

I’d ask that people here please understand the potential impact of portraying unfounded opinion as fact and impact it could have on others here. People value your opinion and as such, please respect that and post responsibly. If you have supporting evidence, post it. It’s a huge help. Offering an unfounded opinion is fine - just clarify that you are basing your opinion on nothing more than conjecture.

OK, I’m off the soapbox. Hope everyone does well today in their games.

 

[Ilov80s]

I’d like to offer something up that bothers me and I’m curious how others feel.

This is aimed at the veteran and more knowledgable people here, and it really hit home on the Kraft thread after news broke he got hurt in practice on Thursday.

Almost immediately and with no foundation whatsoever, there were some saying he was headed to IR or that he was sitting until week 6 after GB’s week 5 bye with no facts to support those positions. It’s clear how inaccurate they were because Kraft is active today.

Now Kraft may not score well today, we don’t know that right now. That’s not the point of this thread. It’s some here - and it’s across more than a few threads - that post unfounded opinions as facts. Everybody has an absolute right to an opinion, I’m not disputing that. It’s taking the position that the opinion is being portrayed as absolute truth when there is nothing or not much to support that being the case.

That’s fine if the whole board were nothing but experienced FFers with enough knowledge base to understand that the nature of the opinion, but it’s not. There are a whole lot of people here who are just learning FF or don’t have time to follow news items closely, and they very well could react badly based upon poor information - maybe like thinking they should drop Kraft and pick up a lesser TE in this specific instance.

I’d ask that people here please understand the potential impact of portraying unfounded opinion as fact and impact it could have on others here. People value your opinion and as such, please respect that and post responsibly. If you have supporting evidence, post it. It’s a huge help. Offering an unfounded opinion is fine - just clarify that you are basing your opinion on nothing more than conjecture.

OK, I’m off the soapbox. Hope everyone does well today in their games.

I think something like an injury that just happened hours ago and where we really have no good info is really silly for people to make speculation like "IR" or "ACL for sure". Just give it a day to get some info.

But I guess this sort of dovetails into my pet peeve, which is the declaration that the new thing is always better than the old thing. The 3rd round rookie just drafted is better than the 8 year veteran strarter, the new RB prospect is better than the RB prospect from a couple years ago, etc. We get way too ahead of ourselves declaring that for sure the new is going to be an improvement from the old. The post I always go back to on this (and I don't remember who posted it and don't mean to put them on blast) was how Jermaine Burton was going to be a big improvement from Tyler Boyd. The chances of any wide receiver drafted being as good and having a career like Boyd are very very small. Even smaller for a 3rd round pick. Also we forgot how good Boyd was, how Boyd was 10x the college player Burton was and in fact tested as a better athlete too. But these kind of declarative statements get thrown out all the time like it's something we just all know. I hear a lot of "team X's offensive line will be better because they drafted this guy in the 2nd and signed some random OT in FA". New doesn't mean better. New can be worse.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

There's a ton of misinformation and "parody" in sports information (particularly social media), as you well know. That's one of my biggest pet peeves...that and the absolute need to be first in distributing information.

 

[Chaka]

I’d like to offer something up that bothers me and I’m curious how others feel.

This is aimed at the veteran and more knowledgable people here, and it really hit home on the Kraft thread after news broke he got hurt in practice on Thursday.

Almost immediately and with no foundation whatsoever, there were some saying he was headed to IR or that he was sitting until week 6 after GB’s week 5 bye with no facts to support those positions. It’s clear how inaccurate they were because Kraft is active today.

Now Kraft may not score well today, we don’t know that right now. That’s not the point of this thread. It’s some here - and it’s across more than a few threads - that post unfounded opinions as facts. Everybody has an absolute right to an opinion, I’m not disputing that. It’s taking the position that the opinion is being portrayed as absolute truth when there is nothing or not much to support that being the case.

That’s fine if the whole board were nothing but experienced FFers with enough knowledge base to understand that the nature of the opinion, but it’s not. There are a whole lot of people here who are just learning FF or don’t have time to follow news items closely, and they very well could react badly based upon poor information - maybe like thinking they should drop Kraft and pick up a lesser TE in this specific instance.

I’d ask that people here please understand the potential impact of portraying unfounded opinion as fact and impact it could have on others here. People value your opinion and as such, please respect that and post responsibly. If you have supporting evidence, post it. It’s a huge help. Offering an unfounded opinion is fine - just clarify that you are basing your opinion on nothing more than conjecture.

OK, I’m off the soapbox. Hope everyone does well today in their games.

I highly recommend you don't spend any time in the weekly injury thread.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I didn't post anything there but what I read I never mistook as fact.

I think it's fine to have people speculating via their experience. When Joe Mixon first had reports of his foot injury I told people it was worth considering an emergency sell because the last time he had that same injury it was reported as "day to day" and he ended up being out for the year. That sell window actually lasted months as everyone kind of ignored it, but here we are now.

Sometimes right, sometimes wrong. I think "in my opinion" is implied at the end of those kinds of posts. It would get kind of old reading that on every post on the forum.

Reading back through the Kraft thread, to me it seems clear all of those posts were speculating and trying to extrapolate based on the info they had and Green Bay's history.

 

[Ilov80s]

There's a ton of misinformation and "parody" in sports information (particularly social media), as you well know. That's one of my biggest pet peeves...that and the absolute need to be first in distributing information.

Twitter used to be the best source for fantasy conversation, news, insights, etc. Now you can never trust if the video or blurb you are seeing is even real. Bots and whatnot will post anything just for view and clicks.

 

[rockaction]

People do speculate at times but I don't think that was the case here. I think it was reported that way. I remember it being hinky.