My first mock of the year! McFadden falls to Shanny (1 Viewer)

[Cecil Lammey]

http://nfldraftguys.com/features/lammey_mock_draft.php

Here it is!

Doing a mock draft is like fishing. You get some, you miss some, it's a pain in the ###, but the point is to have fun!

I had this conversation with my best friend the other day when we were talking about how far Darren McFadden could slide. I said there is NO WAY that Shanny wouldn't take him, so I thought I would examine that with a mock.

The Jets could be the one to take him, but we shall see.

Have at it guys, but take it easy on me - I'm tired!

 

[Cecil Lammey]

and just a reminder...I am NOT a Broncos fan. Yes, I live in Denver, yes, I cover them, but this is not some fanboy hoping Denver gets Darren.

 

[Pictus Cat]

If the Bears take a QB over Otah, you may be able to hear me scream...something...may not be a real word...might sound like Jets fans getting Mike Nugent...not EEEish.

 

[Cecil Lammey]

If the Bears take a QB over Otah, you may be able to hear me scream...something...may not be a real word...might sound like Jets fans getting Mike Nugent...not EEEish.

 

[NYCGangGreen]

If the Bears take a QB over Otah, you may be able to hear me scream...something...may not be a real word...might sound like Jets fans getting Mike Nugent...not EEEish.

You had to remind me....and with the draft inching closer... I feel like this just happened :

 

[cstu]

and just a reminder...I am NOT a Broncos fan. Yes, I live in Denver, yes, I cover them, but this is not some fanboy hoping Denver gets Darren.

I can see him slipping to the Broncos if the Jets take Gholston since none of the teams after them need a RB.As a Chargers fan I'd hate to see this happen, no matter how great it would be fantasy-wise.

 

[DarabZarrabi]

I cant see him falling that far I would imagine the Bengals may take a look at him, or someone like the Pats would get a great offer and move down in the draft...Felix Jones is also a reach IMO the Texans can easily grab him or someone of a similar grade in the second round

 

[Brutis]

I would love it if Dallas could land those guys. Do you really believe Phillips grades out as a 1st round pick? I have a feeling he's a bit overrated. I think he is the weakest safety to come out of miami in a long time.

 

[FUBAR]

This is probably the best mock I've seen to date.

A few questions -

Isn't Odom the replacement for Justin Smith, at least to allow Cincinnati to go elsewhere if the value is there?

Flacco? Really? I like the kid's potential, but wow that seems high.

Mark my words - Detroit goes defense or OT in the first. Maybe Balmer, maybe Otah

 

[finito]

Be mildly surprised to see Detroit go RB in the 1st. They have some serious needs, and could sign a guy like Chris Brown or Lamont Jordan (if he's cut) to get by with their RBs if KJ isn't healthy.

 

[Bri]

and just a reminder...I am NOT a Broncos fan. Yes, I live in Denver, yes, I cover them, but this is not some fanboy hoping Denver gets Darren.

It seems like it.Sorry but....In all fairness, I said there's no way the prized RB falls to the Vikings last year. That the other teams can't be that silly to pass up a "once in a lifetime" talent. So....I absolutely could be wrong here

 

[pantherclub]

No way Clady falls to 13 for Carolina.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Two reasons I like this for Pittsburgh:

1. You don't have them taking a flipping guard in the top 25.

2. I Chris Williams for them. The tagging of Starks has me worried about Smith's back. Where there's smoke, there's fire. Williams is a potential LT that could slide over to RT for a year or so if he had to. He would help fill one of their most glaring needs, but without making it feel like a "need" pick. He goes to OT, Colon moves inside, and hopefully the draft a 2nd OLiner in the first 100 picks to shore it up for the long haul.

 

[Donnybrook]

and just a reminder...I am NOT a Broncos fan. Yes, I live in Denver, yes, I cover them, but this is not some fanboy hoping Denver gets Darren.

No kidding you're not a Denver fan. Why would they move up for a player they do not need? Why wouldn't Tampa Bay stay where they are and take him? What does Tampa get in terms of compensation for moving down 9 spots?Edit for stupidity - don't even know the draft order.

 

[scratcher]

19. Philadelphia Eagles - Jeff OtahHis mean streak goes perfect with Jon Runyan.

 

[Mr. Peterson]

Felix Jones to Houston would make me very excited.

I think he would be an excellent fit there and do well.

Oh, and I would be super duper psyched I held on to the 1.4 rookie pick!!!

 

[Ridgelake]

Dallas leaving the 1st with DRC and Phillips would be freaking AWESOME for the Boys. <insert jubilant action here>

I actually think they would take DRC at 22 instead of waiting. Dallas has exactly 3 CBs on the roster at present. Newman and Henry, yes. The last is Allen Ball, last year's 7th roudner who spent most of the year on the practice squad. Think Dallas wants to risk this guy being a starter when Henry inevitably gets hurt? Nope. CB is the biggest need and DRC is a top rated guy. He would go at 22 if available. Then Philips at 28 if available.

Overall, a great job. Its always fun reading these well-reasoned mocks.

 

[Reaper]

http://nfldraftguys.com/features/lammey_mock_draft.php

Here it is!

Doing a mock draft is like fishing. You get some, you miss some, it's a pain in the ###, but the point is to have fun!

I had this conversation with my best friend the other day when we were talking about how far Darren McFadden could slide. I said there is NO WAY that Shanny wouldn't take him, so I thought I would examine that with a mock.

The Jets could be the one to take him, but we shall see.

Have at it guys, but take it easy on me - I'm tired!

I like it... Team interviews are going to play a huge role on where Mcfadden lands. Even though the Jets offseason so far has been a bit surprising, picking Mcfadden would surprise me even more.

 

[Brutis]

Dallas leaving the 1st with DRC and Phillips would be freaking AWESOME for the Boys. <insert jubilant action here>I actually think they would take DRC at 22 instead of waiting. Dallas has exactly 3 CBs on the roster at present. Newman and Henry, yes. The last is Allen Ball, last year's 7th roudner who spent most of the year on the practice squad. Think Dallas wants to risk this guy being a starter when Henry inevitably gets hurt? Nope. CB is the biggest need and DRC is a top rated guy. He would go at 22 if available. Then Philips at 28 if available.

If Dallas ever feels the need to trade up from #22 I hope its for DRC. I have a bad feeling on Phillips, just because he's the top rated safety coming out I still dont think he warrants a 1st round pick. DRC/WR or DRC/Cason. Either of these combos works for me.

 

[Foosball God]

Be mildly surprised to see Detroit go RB in the 1st. They have some serious needs, and could sign a guy like Chris Brown or Lamont Jordan (if he's cut) to get by with their RBs if KJ isn't healthy.

I agree, there is going to be some serious pressure around here to draft defense or O-Line.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Glad to see everyone joining me on the "Jake Long to the Rams", "Sed Ellis to the Raiders", and "Lions go RB in the first" bandwagons.

I like a LT to the Panthers, but does Clady fit the ZBS?

Any team that takes Joe Flacco ahead of Brian Brohm is world-class stupid. So I can see that pick by the Bears.

No Cason or Talib in the first? Someone's bound to call you dumb for that. I'm not one of them, however.

 

[Brutis]

Be mildly surprised to see Detroit go RB in the 1st. They have some serious needs, and could sign a guy like Chris Brown or Lamont Jordan (if he's cut) to get by with their RBs if KJ isn't healthy.

I agree, there is going to be some serious pressure around here to draft defense or O-Line.

As bad as their defense is I think the top priority should be O line.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Be mildly surprised to see Detroit go RB in the 1st. They have some serious needs, and could sign a guy like Chris Brown or Lamont Jordan (if he's cut) to get by with their RBs if KJ isn't healthy.

I agree, there is going to be some serious pressure around here to draft defense or O-Line.

The best thing for the Lions defense at this point is to keep it off the field. If Kevin Jones can recover to give them even a little bit, he could make a nice clock control tandem with Stewart.

 

[Max Power]

Flacco at 14? I have to say JA is the master at trading down, which I think is much more likely to happen than a QB at 14. (only if Ryan falls would it be warrented)

 

[Cecil Lammey]

I cant see him falling that far I would imagine the Bengals may take a look at him, or someone like the Pats would get a great offer and move down in the draft...Felix Jones is also a reach IMO the Texans can easily grab him or someone of a similar grade in the second round

This is the highest I've seen Jones go in any mock.Bengals may pass on McFadden due to character concerns. There was a buzz in Indy about character issues that have not been revealed to the public. IDK if that was the eventual paternity stuff that came out or not. the Pats will be looking to trade down, let's see who would be willing to deal with them.

 

[Cecil Lammey]

I would love it if Dallas could land those guys. Do you really believe Phillips grades out as a 1st round pick? I have a feeling he's a bit overrated. I think he is the weakest safety to come out of miami in a long time.

It's the later 1st round, but drafting Phillips in the 1st is like a wish and a prayer. The helmet he wore in college will get him taken on potential.

 

[Cecil Lammey]

This is probably the best mock I've seen to date. A few questions -Isn't Odom the replacement for Justin Smith, at least to allow Cincinnati to go elsewhere if the value is there? Flacco? Really? I like the kid's potential, but wow that seems high.Mark my words - Detroit goes defense or OT in the first. Maybe Balmer, maybe Otah

thanks man!Odom and Merling would be a great duo. call it the NYG effect - take DLinemen for devastating depth!Flacco is my #5QB, so this is very high. I just feel that teams will fall in love with potential and take him too high.Detroit is Matt Millen so you never know what you're going to get!I believe that almost every year there are players that are taken way too high (akili smith anyone?) and there are players that slide further than people expect (rodgers, quinn).

 

[Cecil Lammey]

Be mildly surprised to see Detroit go RB in the 1st. They have some serious needs, and could sign a guy like Chris Brown or Lamont Jordan (if he's cut) to get by with their RBs if KJ isn't healthy.

They could also go with a guy like BenJarvus Green-Ellis in the later rounds. That kid is a beast!

 

[Cecil Lammey]

and just a reminder...I am NOT a Broncos fan. Yes, I live in Denver, yes, I cover them, but this is not some fanboy hoping Denver gets Darren.

It seems like it.Sorry but....In all fairness, I said there's no way the prized RB falls to the Vikings last year. That the other teams can't be that silly to pass up a "once in a lifetime" talent. So....I absolutely could be wrong here

I said the same thing last year about ADP. I thought early this year that there was NO WAY that teams could pass on a talent like McFadden. Now I could see teams hesitating because of the off field stuff, dead legs, initiates too much contact, issues.And I think teams would regret it. McFadden is a difference maker.

 

[brednbuddah]

I cant see him falling that far I would imagine the Bengals may take a look at him, or someone like the Pats would get a great offer and move down in the draft...Felix Jones is also a reach IMO the Texans can easily grab him or someone of a similar grade in the second round

lovin' gholston to the Jets

 

[Cecil Lammey]

No way Clady falls to 13 for Carolina.

I didn't think so initially, where do you think he'll end up? If McFadden wasn't there, I know the Broncos would snatch him up.

 

[Cecil Lammey]

Two reasons I like this for Pittsburgh:1. You don't have them taking a flipping guard in the top 25.2. I Chris Williams for them. The tagging of Starks has me worried about Smith's back. Where there's smoke, there's fire. Williams is a potential LT that could slide over to RT for a year or so if he had to. He would help fill one of their most glaring needs, but without making it feel like a "need" pick. He goes to OT, Colon moves inside, and hopefully the draft a 2nd OLiner in the first 100 picks to shore it up for the long haul.

Last year Bloom and I said, "Anyone but Lawrence Timmons!" Lets see if this year we can get CW - the marauder!

 

[Cecil Lammey]

and just a reminder...I am NOT a Broncos fan. Yes, I live in Denver, yes, I cover them, but this is not some fanboy hoping Denver gets Darren.

No kidding you're not a Denver fan. Why would they move up for a player they do not need? Why wouldn't Tampa Bay stay where they are and take him? What does Tampa get in terms of compensation for moving down 9 spots?

there are certain RBs that Mike Shanahan just absolutely loves. Laurence Maroney was the latest.They don't really need McFadden to have a 1,000 yard back. However, I think coach Shanahan understands that there is a difference between players like Mike Anderson, Olandis Gary, etc and players like Clinton Portis, and Terrell Davis. In this scenario, when McFadden falls past the Jets, Shanny would work the phones just to see what teams are wanting in return.

 

[Cecil Lammey]

19. Philadelphia Eagles - Jeff OtahHis mean streak goes perfect with Jon Runyan.

glad to see Eagles fans happy with this pick. That line would have some serious attitude!

 

[redman]

31. Forfeit - New England Patriots

 

[Cecil Lammey]

Felix Jones to Houston would make me very excited. I think he would be an excellent fit there and do well.Oh, and I would be super duper psyched I held on to the 1.4 rookie pick!!!

That 1.4 pick would have some serious punch!I have a mini-RB run here with McFadden, Stewart, and Mendenhall gone. I think the Texans might look at Jones with the 18 pick.

 

[Brutis]

31. Forfeit - New England Patriots

They can afford it since they have the 7th pick

 

[Cecil Lammey]

Dallas leaving the 1st with DRC and Phillips would be freaking AWESOME for the Boys. <insert jubilant action here>I actually think they would take DRC at 22 instead of waiting. Dallas has exactly 3 CBs on the roster at present. Newman and Henry, yes. The last is Allen Ball, last year's 7th roudner who spent most of the year on the practice squad. Think Dallas wants to risk this guy being a starter when Henry inevitably gets hurt? Nope. CB is the biggest need and DRC is a top rated guy. He would go at 22 if available. Then Philips at 28 if available.Overall, a great job. Its always fun reading these well-reasoned mocks.

thanks for enjoying it!I could see my Dallas picks flipped as well.

 

[Cecil Lammey]

http://nfldraftguys.com/features/lammey_mock_draft.php

Here it is!

Doing a mock draft is like fishing. You get some, you miss some, it's a pain in the ###, but the point is to have fun!

I had this conversation with my best friend the other day when we were talking about how far Darren McFadden could slide. I said there is NO WAY that Shanny wouldn't take him, so I thought I would examine that with a mock.

The Jets could be the one to take him, but we shall see.

Have at it guys, but take it easy on me - I'm tired!

I like it... Team interviews are going to play a huge role on where Mcfadden lands. Even though the Jets offseason so far has been a bit surprising, picking Mcfadden would surprise me even more.

If McFadden comes across too aloof that could be a real turn off for teams.

 

[Donny Loved Bowling]

Keith Rivers ahead of Dan Connor?

Not

Gonna

Happen

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Can we all please stop it with the "no way's" and "not gonna happen's"?

Dan Connor, for example may in fact be a better player than Rivers, but that doesn't mean he fits the schemes of the teams that pick before Connor is off the board.

Some teams select by BPA, which is impossible to predict, but others really do pick the guy that fits their scheme the best.

 

[Cecil Lammey]

Glad to see everyone joining me on the "Jake Long to the Rams", "Sed Ellis to the Raiders", and "Lions go RB in the first" bandwagons.

I like a LT to the Panthers, but does Clady fit the ZBS?



Any team that takes Joe Flacco ahead of Brian Brohm is world-class stupid. So I can see that pick by the Bears.

No Cason or Talib in the first? Someone's bound to call you dumb for that. I'm not one of them, however.

ouch! A franchise LT can fit on any team. Clady is also very light on his feet. IMHO, the interior line is the most important in the ZBS.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

A franchise LT can fit on any team. Clady is also very light on his feet. IMHO, the interior line is the most important in the ZBS.

I really like Clady and would think just about ANY team would be well off in taking him.Really. The only teams that couldn't use a young left tackle are teams that got one last year - Cleveland and Indianapolis.Just about everyone else either has marginal talent or an aging vet. Even the Vikings could take him if McKinnie'e legal troubles catch up to him (even if his mediocre play hasn't ).

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Two reasons I like this for Pittsburgh:1. You don't have them taking a flipping guard in the top 25.2. I Chris Williams for them. The tagging of Starks has me worried about Smith's back. Where there's smoke, there's fire. Williams is a potential LT that could slide over to RT for a year or so if he had to. He would help fill one of their most glaring needs, but without making it feel like a "need" pick. He goes to OT, Colon moves inside, and hopefully the draft a 2nd OLiner in the first 100 picks to shore it up for the long haul.

Last year Bloom and I said, "Anyone but Lawrence Timmons!" Lets see if this year we can get CW - the marauder!

You guys didn't dig Timmons? I don't recall that.I didn't dig him at that pick(would have preferred a trade down.) Got to see him play a lot living down here, and didn't think he was a terrible pickup.....if they intended to switch to the Cover 2. We'll see how that shakes out, I guess.What're your thoughts on the Steelers NOT going OL in round one this year if Chris Williams isn't there? I'm of the mind that, while I like Otah a little bit if he was available or Cherilus as a RT, I'd rather see them look at DT if Williams is off the board. Not a huge proponent of Baker and I just get a bad vibe from Branden Albert. Can't quite put my finger on it yet as to what it is exactly, but I'd feel sort of ripped off if the Steelers took him at 23. Especially with the depth at OT in this draft. They can probably get a pretty good RT prospect in round 2 if they looked on the DL in round one. I think pundits are getting caught up in replacing Faneca with their first pick. I disagree with that. They have players on the roster that are a good fit as interior guys(Colon, perhaps Kemo). They DON'T have a legit replacement for Smith if he's done and if Colon moves inside they need another RT. I don't think Starks is going to be a Steeler either, so that kills the depth outside as well.

 

[Cecil Lammey]

Keith Rivers ahead of Dan Connor?NotGonna Happen

Connor has done a fantastic job in his interviews, but Rivers is no slouch.

 

[Doug B]

I haven't been following the pre-draft stuff all that closely -- what the heck happened to Darren McFadden? Was he smoking crack at the combine or something?

Reminds me of 2001, when a bunch of teams talked themselves out of Deuce McAllister.

 

[Donnybrook]

and just a reminder...I am NOT a Broncos fan. Yes, I live in Denver, yes, I cover them, but this is not some fanboy hoping Denver gets Darren.

No kidding you're not a Denver fan. Why would they move up for a player they do not need? Why wouldn't Tampa Bay stay where they are and take him? What does Tampa get in terms of compensation for moving down 9 spots?

there are certain RBs that Mike Shanahan just absolutely loves. Laurence Maroney was the latest.

Yet they didn't draft Maroney and took a player they need more - Jay Cutler.

They don't really need McFadden to have a 1,000 yard back. However, I think coach Shanahan understands that there is a difference between players like Mike Anderson, Olandis Gary, etc and players like Clinton Portis, and Terrell Davis. In this scenario, when McFadden falls past the Jets, Shanny would work the phones just to see what teams are wanting in return.

They could pay McFadden multiple millions to do a little more than what Selvin Young does on the league minimum. They also could cut Henry but that won't save them much since he already restructured. Actually if they did cut Henry, it could potentially hurt the clubs reputation with future free agents. Contracts are basically no good in Denver. They would have to give up this year 2nd round pick and probably more to move up. I believe they already gave up their 3rd to the Vikings in last years draft.

So all they get out of this draft is McFadden and maybe a couple 2nd day draft picks. The team would have done nothing to improve the defense. Shanny does this and he will be putting his head on the block.

edit: note to self Denver picks 12th overall - note sure why I thought that they need to move up.

 

[FUBAR]

and just a reminder...I am NOT a Broncos fan. Yes, I live in Denver, yes, I cover them, but this is not some fanboy hoping Denver gets Darren.

No kidding you're not a Denver fan. Why would they move up for a player they do not need? Why wouldn't Tampa Bay stay where they are and take him? What does Tampa get in terms of compensation for moving down 9 spots?

there are certain RBs that Mike Shanahan just absolutely loves. Laurence Maroney was the latest.

Yet they didn't draft Maroney and took a player they need more - Jay Cutler.

AND, they actually moved up to get him.St. Louis traded its first-round (No. 11) pick to Denver for the Broncos' first- (No. 15) and third-round (No. 68) picks. Denver took Jay Cutler, qb, Vanderbilt. St. Louis took Tye Hill, db, Clemson and Claude Wroten, dt, LSU.

 

[pantherclub]

No way Clady falls to 13 for Carolina.

I didn't think so initially, where do you think he'll end up? If McFadden wasn't there, I know the Broncos would snatch him up.

Clady will go in the top 10. His ceiling is too high. someone (hopefully the panthers) will move up if he falls even a little.

 

[Bears_Man2]

If the Bears take Andrew Walter II, I will denounce my fandom to them forever.