Tau837
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travdogg said:
I agree with @fightingillini. This one stood out to me as the most questionable of all of your rankings.
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My positional rankings from week 4 onward (1 Viewer)
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I agree with @fightingillini. This one stood out to me as the most questionable of all of your rankings.
Yeah, we'll disagree on Hurts. I think Philly came out flat, and very very poorly coached on Monday Night, but I'm not going to call Hurts exposed off 1 game, a game where he still put up over 20 points.
I think Philly will adjust and will call more runs, and his weapons and OL are a lot better than I think they are getting credit for. Philly did lose their LG, but they were without their LT and RG, and both of them will be back.
Despite the points he has scored, I'm starting to think Hurts might be a bit of a buy low, just based on what happened on Monday Night.
Hot Sauce Guy
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Also, don’t get me wrong… It’s an admirable attempt at a list & I’m just picking nits with a couple of things I disagree with.
overall, nice job. & it can get the discussion going which is also fun mid-week.
overall, nice job. & it can get the discussion going which is also fun mid-week.
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Chaka
Footballguy
@Tanner9919 has been consistently down on Pitts "relative to his draft position" for a long time. He has been right so far but I think he is so invested in that position that he isn't really open to suggestions otherwise.
If Pitts were a traditional in-line TE I don't think any of us would be very high on him, but it seems like he is rarely lined up in-line which really makes him effectively a big slot WR that moves all around hoping to create mismatches, so I don't think historical rookie TE production really applies when evaluating him.
Even so let's not discount the fact that Atlanta sucks right now and Arthur Smith may (may) not be a very good coach.
ETA: I think I may be confusing @Tanner9919 with @TripItUp which one of you guys was really down on Pitts "relative to his draft position" all off-season?
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TripItUp
Footballguy
Chaka
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TripItUp
Footballguy
I do think he could evolve to provide some value in the second half of the season, but I wouldn't bank on it. Atlanta has looked terrible.
He's certainly not returning 4th or 5th round value.
Stealthycat
Footballguy
travdogg said:
Cousins is #5 ranked QB in my league so far in the 2021 season
Couldn't be more unsustainable, 8 pass TDs to 1 rush TD is not a recipe the Vikings want at all. They haven't even had a 2-1 ratio the last 2 seasons.
RealReactions
Footballguy
as a local who listens to 97.5 the fanatic at work I would expect it to change rather than stay the same. As he said he has only coached 3 games and will learn from his mistakes. here is a quote from the coach himself.
“We wanted to make sure we were able to keep up with them,” Sirianni said, via the Philadelphia Inquirer. “We knew they were an explosive offense. We wanted to be able to push the ball down the field and hit some of the underneath zones that we saw while also obviously mixing the run game in there and the screen game. You fall behind a little bit, you have to get off that game plan a little bit. We knew we had to score with this team because we knew they were able to score and score quickly.”
At the time he abandoned the run he was only down 14 in the 2nd quarter and he clearly was just panicking. It was his first prime time game VS the most hated rival of philly and I believe ( along with a few radio host) that the moment was just too big for him and the playcalling got away from him. Sanders had a great 24 yard run in the 2nd and didn't get another carry the rest of the game in the 2nd half.
I think everyone sees flaws are showing in Hurts and they have a running back with some burst. I definitely see the play calling changing for more runs and Hurts will get 9+ points a game just rushing. So I see why he has hurts high.
Just my
Helaire-ious
Footballguy
As a Lamar owner, I would even put Mahomes ahead of him.
CEH below Edmonds? Nope
CEH below Edmonds? Nope
I don't think Mahomes has Jackson's upside. Not unless he suddenly starts running a lot more, or a 3rd weapon emerges in the passing game. I don't envision either happening. He has a higher week to week floor, but QB is probably the position that matters least at.
CEH doesn't contribute in enough different ways to be over Edmonds in my opinion. He isn't a major part of the passing game, he isn't a high volume guy, and he might just not be very talented. 75% of his value is that he plays in an elite offense so TDs are always in play, but that only gets you so far. I'm not convinced his game against the Chargers means anything long term, as the Chargers have the worst run D in the NFL. I'd have been worried if he didn't do well against them.
Edmonds meanwhile, is an elite pass catcher, in an equally good(maybe better) offense, and has RB1 upside if Conner goes down, and not many RBs have been more injury prone than Conner. He's delivered nothing but RB2 numbers so far, and that is without scoring a TD, which will obviously not be the case all season.
I know I have them only 1 spot apart, but Edmonds/CEH is probably a tier drop for me. Its where RB2 with RB1 upside if things break right, just becomes RB2.
Anarchy99
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IMO, people are missing what is happening in Arizona. The days of Hopkins getting twice as many targets than anyone on the team are gone. He’s not getting force fed the ball. There are 5 guys getting just as many targets as Hopkins with Williams as another option as well. Hopkins has seen his targets drop from 10 to 6 per game. He won’t come close to the Top 5 with that number of targets.
I've noticed that too, but I'm a little hesitant to believe it will be the case going forward for 2 reasons.
1. The Cardinals haven't faced any real resistance defensively. When push comes to shove so to speak, is Hopkins the trusted guy when they need a play?
2. Is Hopkins rib injury the reason why his targets have been down the last 2 weeks? If Hopkins hadn't had that 8-6-83-2 game in week 1, I think I'd be on board with this theory a lot more.
That said, its certainly possible, that his top-5 days are over, and I'm giving him too much credit, or too willing to make excuses for him based on track record.
TVT 0 N S T A
Footballguy
I think Hockenson has proven he is an elite fantasy TE - that is all.
travdogg said:
Good job. This is difficult to do. Thanks for doing the work and putting your thoughts out there.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
This is a great thread!
It’s hard to disagree with much but I am another Cousins believer. Cousins has a shot to be top 10. He is loaded with weapons. His TD rate may drop a little but I expect the yards to continue.
Hurts seems overrated. He cannot pass the ball. That is a problem for an NFL QB.
It’s hard to disagree with much but I am another Cousins believer. Cousins has a shot to be top 10. He is loaded with weapons. His TD rate may drop a little but I expect the yards to continue.
Hurts seems overrated. He cannot pass the ball. That is a problem for an NFL QB.
