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The thing is: if he connects with the helmet properly we are talking potential lethal/major injury. Those helmets are heavy!
https://www.footballzebras.com/2009/10/referee-needs-reconstrutive-sugery-after-postgame-assault-at-w-ny-semipro-game/
Later sentenced to 10 years in prison. He's lucky he did not connect properly.
Agree.... from the reports, it was a bad night for the Pitt OL and Rudolph was fed up with it and the OL defended him and they all got carried away. Something like 4 sacks and 9 knockdowns? Not surprised they had enough with the game out of hand at the end of the game... Why was Clev Def/DC trying to end with a statement when the game was in the hand!?!?
Not my take.... but a slight fine for his trying to rip of Garrett's helmet when the play was over to recognize his involvement in the incident. He is not innocent.These takes that Rudolph was the instigator are wild. Lots of my Browns fans friends saying Rudolph deserves a 2+ game suspension.
Rudolph shouldn't/isn't going to get suspended, but future opponents are watching that film and seeing that you can get in his head and he'll break down. Last night was the beginning of the end for him.These takes that Rudolph was the instigator are wild. Lots of my Browns fans friends saying Rudolph deserves a 2+ game suspension.
It's just pathetic that Rudolph is even a topic of discussion for having anything to do with something this heinous. Really shows where we're at right now. Awful.These takes that Rudolph was the instigator are wild. Lots of my Browns fans friends saying Rudolph deserves a 2+ game suspension.
I don't think that play was disgusting, but he also should have been tossed. If that makes sense. Just the nature of today's game, league has made a focused effort to get those hits out of the game. As they should.
I thought the play was disgusting, but I haven't thought much of Cleveland's bunch this year in terms of class and dirtiness, so take with a grain of salt.
Why was the Pitt O/OC trying to throw the ball, down by 14 when the game was over? You want the defense to not play, but the offense should? That's ridiculous. If the offense is going to try to run plays, the defense is going to defend them. If Pitt doesn't want Cle to "end with a statement," then they should kneel out the clock. But if they decide to drop back & throw, they don't get to be upset that Cleveland played defense.
no, everything that happened up until Garrett swung the helmet is stuff that happens in football games.
Even when that guy was trying to rip Garrett's helmet off first, then two other guys going after him, including the guy with no helmet?
The instigator should never be ignored in a brawl like this. The followup actions are escalated due to their actions. Everybody deserves to be held accountable for their actions. If you feel otherwise, I certainly hope you never serve on a jury.
He WAS the instigator. That's not a question. He got pissed because Garrett hit him after he'd thrown the ball, he tried to rip Garrett's helmet off, and he kicked him. All this happened BEFORE Garret yanked Rudolph's helmet off and hit him with it. If Garrett had walked away after the kick, I could see Rudolph getting a fine, but a suspension would have been surprising. Knowing what it led to, who knows?These takes that Rudolph was the instigator are wild. Lots of my Browns fans friends saying Rudolph deserves a 2+ game suspension.
I’ve been watching the NFL since the 60s and have seen plenty of dirty plays but I’ve never seen a defender rio the helmet off a QBs head and hit him with it.
Same point remains: why was Pitt trying to throw at that point, when they're 83 yards from their end zone, and down by 2 TDs?
Caved in his skull??? Wow there is an incredibly overblown idea of how dangerous a helmet is. It's not a battle axe. It's not a sledgehammer. Geeze. Caved in his skull??? He actually DID hit him, and Rudolph is unharmed.
Because that’s what illogical NFL head coaches do for some odd reason.
You are so wrong. See my post above on the last page.
Antonio Smith yanked Richie Incognito's helmet off and swung it at him a few years back. Didn't connect, but he tried. He got 3 games (2 pre-season and one regular season game). I'd imagine Garrett will get at least twice that (made contact, it was a QB, not an OL he hit/swung at, etc).
No, he was not the instigator. I don’t think that Garrett hit him all that late, but he certainly took extra effort to wrap him up and body slam him late. He then was all over Rudolph. Rudolph was wrong to wrap his arms around Garrett’s helmet and extra wrong to kick him, but IMO this was after Garrett had already gone well beyond normal play.
