NBA BTTF III - Draft Over! War of attrition underway... (1 Viewer)

[Notorious T.R.E.]

so the whole draft flips after round 5 not just round 5? is that right?

SEE YA MONDAY!

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

1.01 yo mama Kevin Durant SF

1.02 rodg12 Lebron James SF

1.03 jomar Anthony Davis C

1.04 eephus Kevin Love PF

1.05 no 16 Steph Curry PG

1.06 sammy Carmelo Anthony SF

1.07 slapdash Chris Paul PG

1.08 timschochet Russell Westbrook PG

1.09 frosty John Wall PG

1.10 pump James Harden SG

1.11 grooovus Demarcus Cousins C

1.12 jb breakfast Blake Griffin PF

1.13 x Serge Ibaka PF

1.14 scoobus Andre Drummond C

1.15 jmon Kobe Bryant SG

1.16 moops Dwight Howard C

1.17 sparty Chris Bosh PF

1.18 coyote Lamarcus Aldridge PF

1.19 abe Al Jefferson C

1.20 funke Al Horford C

1.21 arsenal Joakim Noah C

1.22 kev Derrick Rose PG

1.23 kraft Dirk Nowitzki PF

1.24 tre Kawhi Leonard SF

2.01 tre Klay Thompson SG

2.02 kraft Kyle Lowry PG

2.03 kev Marc Gasol C

2.04 arsenal DeAndre Jordan C

2.05 funke Nic Batum SF

2.06 abe Kyrie Irving PG

2.07 coyote Damian Lillard PG

2.08 sparty Goran Dragic PG

2.09 moops Josh Smith PF

2.10 jmon Rajon Rondo PG

2.11 scoobus Brook Lopez C

2.12 x Paul Millsap PF

2.13 jb breakfast Gordon Hayward SG/SF

2.14 groovus Mike Conley PG

2.15 pump Deron Williams PG

2.16 frosty Greg Monroe PF

2.17 timschochet Tim Duncan Old

2.18 slapdash DeMar DeRozan DeSG

2.19 sammy Marcin Gortat C

2.20 no 16 Lance Stephenson SG

2.21 eephus Derrick Favors C

2.22 jomar David Lee PF

2.23 rodg12 Jonas Valanciunas C

2.24 yo mama Ty Lawson PG

3.01 yo mama Dwyane Wade SG

3.02 rodg12 Monta Ellis SG

3.03 jomar Michael Carter Williams PG

3.04 eephus Kemba Walker PG

3.05 no 16 Bradley Beal SG

3.06 sammy Chandler Parsons SF

3.07 slapdash Pau Gasol PF

3.08 timschochet Tony Parker PG

3.09 frosty Eric Bledsoe SG

3.10 pump Kenneth Faried PF

3.11 grooovus Andrew Wiggins SF

3.12 jb breakfast Nikola Vucevic C

3.13 x Jrue Holiday PG

3.14 scoobus Isaiah Thomas PG

3.15 jmon Jabari Parker SF

3.16 moops Ricky Rubio PG

3.17 sparty Jeff Teague PG

3.18 coyote Victor Oladipo G

3.19 abe Rudy Gay SF

3.20 funke Trevor Ariza SF

3.21 arsenal Tyreke Evans SF

3.22 kev Wes Matthews SG

3.23 kraft Thad Young PF

3.24 tre George Hill PG

4.01 tre Roy Hibbert C

4.02 kraft Aaron Afflalo SG

4.03 kev Jimmy Butler SF

4.04 arsenal Danilo Gallinari SF

4.05 funke Darren Collison PG

4.06 abe Nerlens Noel C

4.07 coyote Giannis Antetokounmpo SF

4.08 sparty Tyson Chandler C

4.09 moops Andre Iguodala SF

4.1 jmon Ryan Anderson PF

4.11 scoobus Terrence Jones PF

4.12 x Zach Randolph PF

4.13 jb breakfast Kyle Korver SF

4.14 groovus Jordan Hill PF

4.15 pump Robin Lopez C

4.16 frosty Amir Johnson PF

4.17 timschochet Taj Gibson PF

4.18 slapdash Luol Deng SF

4.19 sammy David West PF

4.20 no 16 Danny Green SG

4.21 eephus Markieff Morris PF

4.22 jomar Jeff Green SF

4.23 rodg12 Jose Calderon PG

4.24 yo mama Nikola Pekovic C

5.01 tre Larry Sanders PF

5.02 kraft Javale McGee C

5.03 kev Paul Pierce PF

5.04 arsenal Tobias Harris F

5.05 funke John Henson PF

5.06 abe Kevin Martin SG

5.07 coyote Draymond Green PF

5.08 sparty

5.09 moops

5.10 jmon

bumping to next page for searching

 

[Sammy3469]

so the whole draft flips after round 5 not just round 5? is that right?

SEE YA MONDAY!

We're taking off for Jewish High holidays?

 

[Kraft...]

so the whole draft flips after round 5 not just round 5? is that right?

SEE YA MONDAY!

 

[coyote5]

Tobias Harris F

Faaaaaahq You.

Let's make it "freakishly long Milwaukee Bucks with upside" day

5.05: John Henson, PF/C

PG: Darren Collison

SG; Nik Batum

SF: Trevor Ariza

PF: John Henson

C: Al Horford

That's the least flashy starting 5 I've ever seen. Makes the Jazz look exciting by comparison.

and FAAAAAHQ You.

 

[coyote5]

Hold on. Combing over my options. Should be back in an hour.

 

[Kraft...]

This thread needs more combing

 

[No. 16]

Real glad Zbo got picked. Would have been hard to pass on him in the 4th, but as much as I love his real life game it's not super ideal for the SIM. Annoyed that Taj was taken.

Also regarding the Greek Freak vs Randolph and Miller, the thing that really separates him is his jump shot and decision making. GF is already a 35% 3 point shooter and looks to set his teammates up. AR has fantastic handles but he's dumb as a rock and Miles doesn't have one NBA skill. I'll peg him at 12-10 ppg, 7 rebs, 3.5 ast. Nic Batum lite.

As a 19 yo Miles averaged 9.4 pts, 5.9 reb, 1.2 ast, 1.5 blk, and .6 stl in 26 MPG, and shot over 50% from the field.

NBA skills weren't Miles' problem.

Athleticism...running and dunking. He couldn't dribble, pass, or shoot.

I watched most every game of his first couple of years and disagree, he had all those tools. He even shot 35% from 16ft - 3pt range as rookie (hardly taking any 3 pointers at all) so among close watchers of the team at that stage we all thought he was likely to eventually develop into a decent shooter. He'd get out of control at times but was electric putting the ball on the floor and taking people of the dribble or going end to end in transition.

Thus....running and dunking.

He didn't even attempt 3 pointers (131 for his CAREER), his FT% was <60%, and that 16-3pt range shot was 36% for his career (NBA avg is around ~38%) so it's pretty safe to say he couldn't shoot.

He had a high of 2.6 AST per game (career 1.9 ast per game). If you want to compare AST%, his career 12.6 AST% is less than Carmelo Anthony (15.8 AST%). Oh an he averaged more TO than AST for his career (2 vs 1.9). So I think it's pretty safe to say he couldn't pass either.

I was living in SoCal at that time so I adopted those Clippers as my second team (F THE LAKERS!! Brand, Q, Odom, Miles, Magg) and watched them as much as a college kid could. He was a freak athlete, but had nothing else to his game. That's why he disappeared after he hurt his knee.

I feel like you aren't understanding the whole point of the conversation.

???. After I said Miles didn't have one NBA skill....you said, "NBA skills weren't Miles problem."

He couldn't shoot, pass, or make smart decisions. His only way to impact the game was with his athleticism. What am I missing?

 

[coyote5]

Draymond Green - F

I really should have taken Morris or Jones instead of the Freak. Instead I'm relying on break out years all over my ####### roster. Although I guess those are break-out guys too...

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

This thread needs more combing

And combing shtick was born.

 

[Spartans Rule]

5.8 Ersan Ilyasova,SF, Milwaukee Bucks

I Filed a Missing Ersan Report was the best team name in this last year. I might even steal it... but hopefully I won't have to, because he'll stay healthy and return to 2011-13 levels of production.

PG: Jeff Teague

SG: Goran Dragic

SF: Ersan Ilyasova

PF: Chris Bosh

C: Tyson Chandler

 

[Kraft...]

5.8 Ersan Ilyasova,SF, Milwaukee Bucks

I Filed a Missing Ersan Report was the best team name in this last year. I might even steal it... but hopefully I won't have to, because he'll stay healthy and return to 2011-13 levels of production.

PG: Jeff Teague

SG: Goran Dragic

SF: Ersan Ilyasova

PF: Chris Bosh

C: Tyson Chandler

X is gonna be pissed

 

[rodg12]

5.8 Ersan Ilyasova,SF, Milwaukee Bucks

I Filed a Missing Ersan Report was the best team name in this last year. I might even steal it... but hopefully I won't have to, because he'll stay healthy and return to 2011-13 levels of production.

PG: Jeff Teague

SG: Goran Dragic

SF: Ersan Ilyasova

PF: Chris Bosh

C: Tyson Chandler

Will be interesting to see how many minutes he gets with Parker now in town. Assuming he's healthy.

 

[Sammy3469]

5.8 Ersan Ilyasova,SF, Milwaukee Bucks

I Filed a Missing Ersan Report was the best team name in this last year. I might even steal it... but hopefully I won't have to, because he'll stay healthy and return to 2011-13 levels of production.

PG: Jeff Teague

SG: Goran Dragic

SF: Ersan Ilyasova

PF: Chris Bosh

C: Tyson Chandler

Will be interesting to see how many minutes he gets with Parker now in town. Assuming he's healthy.

"Ouch"

 

[Spartans Rule]

5.8 Ersan Ilyasova,SF, Milwaukee Bucks

I Filed a Missing Ersan Report was the best team name in this last year. I might even steal it... but hopefully I won't have to, because he'll stay healthy and return to 2011-13 levels of production.

PG: Jeff Teague

SG: Goran Dragic

SF: Ersan Ilyasova

PF: Chris Bosh

C: Tyson Chandler

Will be interesting to see how many minutes he gets with Parker now in town. Assuming he's healthy.

Every depth chart I've seen lists him as the starting PF with Parker at SF. Of course the Bucks have more options now, so if he plays like he did last year he'll get benched pretty fast.

 

[Sammy3469]

An awful lot of Bucks have been drafted. An awful lot.

 

[Pumpnick]

Ok, theres 1 player left on my list. Anyone wanna trade back?

 

[Frostillicus]

Ok, theres 1 player left on my list. Anyone wanna trade back?

I'm way better than you I have two guys on my list.

 

[rodg12]

5.8 Ersan Ilyasova,SF, Milwaukee Bucks

I Filed a Missing Ersan Report was the best team name in this last year. I might even steal it... but hopefully I won't have to, because he'll stay healthy and return to 2011-13 levels of production.

PG: Jeff Teague

SG: Goran Dragic

SF: Ersan Ilyasova

PF: Chris Bosh

C: Tyson Chandler

Will be interesting to see how many minutes he gets with Parker now in town. Assuming he's healthy.

Every depth chart I've seen lists him as the starting PF with Parker at SF. Of course the Bucks have more options now, so if he plays like he did last year he'll get benched pretty fast.

Yeah, that's the spot that makes the most sense for him. The Bucks are an intriguing team this year. Greek Freak, two guys that haven't been drafted yet, Parker, Ilyasova, Sanders, Henson. They probably won't be any good...but if Parker is a stud and Greek Freak makes strides...who knows.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

An awful lot of Bucks have been drafted. An awful lot.

I am suddenly filled with regret.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

5.8 Ersan Ilyasova,SF, Milwaukee Bucks

I Filed a Missing Ersan Report was the best team name in this last year. I might even steal it... but hopefully I won't have to, because he'll stay healthy and return to 2011-13 levels of production.

PG: Jeff Teague

SG: Goran Dragic

SF: Ersan Ilyasova

PF: Chris Bosh

C: Tyson Chandler

X is gonna be pissed

Although Ersan might be dead to him. He was AllErsanEverything last year.

 

[No. 16]

I created a second page with the rosters for each team. A lot of solid teams this year. I don't see very many duds compared to the past and while the Durant, LBJ, and Davis teams look solid....they look beatable. Kev's team could be the Championship team if Rose comesback (Rose, Matthews, Butler, Pierce, Marc Gasol) and Moops team can do damage if Rubio learns to shoot and they can fill out with more offense (Rubio, Iggy, Josh Smith, Howard).

Tim's team is actually shaping up well... Tony Parker, Westbrook, Taj, and Tim Duncan. Not sure if he knows enough players to flesh it out though. I really wish I could watch Jmon's team in real life to watch Rondo and Kobe not pass the ball to Anderson or Jabari.

Great work so far guys.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Moops texted.

 

[Abraham]

Pretty disappointed that my Kevin Martin pick didn't engender any barbs or witty retorts.

 

[scoobus]

You gotta draft Scola first.

 

[the moops]

Channing Frye

on phone plz pm next

 

[Spartans Rule]

Pretty disappointed that my Kevin Martin pick didn't engender any barbs or witty retorts.

I had something kicking around in my head about offering me Martin in a package for Bosh, but I was too focused on wasting my 5th rounder on some injured Turkish guy from the Bucks to really finish the thought.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Pretty disappointed that my Kevin Martin pick didn't engender any barbs or witty retorts.

I had something kicking around in my head about offering me Martin in a package for Bosh, but I was too focused on wasting my 5th rounder on some injured Turkish guy from the Bucks to really finish the thought.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

jmon PM'd

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

Real glad Zbo got picked. Would have been hard to pass on him in the 4th, but as much as I love his real life game it's not super ideal for the SIM. Annoyed that Taj was taken.

Also regarding the Greek Freak vs Randolph and Miller, the thing that really separates him is his jump shot and decision making. GF is already a 35% 3 point shooter and looks to set his teammates up. AR has fantastic handles but he's dumb as a rock and Miles doesn't have one NBA skill. I'll peg him at 12-10 ppg, 7 rebs, 3.5 ast. Nic Batum lite.

As a 19 yo Miles averaged 9.4 pts, 5.9 reb, 1.2 ast, 1.5 blk, and .6 stl in 26 MPG, and shot over 50% from the field.

NBA skills weren't Miles' problem.

Athleticism...running and dunking. He couldn't dribble, pass, or shoot.

I watched most every game of his first couple of years and disagree, he had all those tools. He even shot 35% from 16ft - 3pt range as rookie (hardly taking any 3 pointers at all) so among close watchers of the team at that stage we all thought he was likely to eventually develop into a decent shooter. He'd get out of control at times but was electric putting the ball on the floor and taking people of the dribble or going end to end in transition.

Thus....running and dunking.

He didn't even attempt 3 pointers (131 for his CAREER), his FT% was <60%, and that 16-3pt range shot was 36% for his career (NBA avg is around ~38%) so it's pretty safe to say he couldn't shoot.

He had a high of 2.6 AST per game (career 1.9 ast per game). If you want to compare AST%, his career 12.6 AST% is less than Carmelo Anthony (15.8 AST%). Oh an he averaged more TO than AST for his career (2 vs 1.9). So I think it's pretty safe to say he couldn't pass either.

I was living in SoCal at that time so I adopted those Clippers as my second team (F THE LAKERS!! Brand, Q, Odom, Miles, Magg) and watched them as much as a college kid could. He was a freak athlete, but had nothing else to his game. That's why he disappeared after he hurt his knee.

I feel like you aren't understanding the whole point of the conversation.

???. After I said Miles didn't have one NBA skill....you said, "NBA skills weren't Miles problem."

He couldn't shoot, pass, or make smart decisions. His only way to impact the game was with his athleticism. What am I missing?

You seem to be missing that this is about projecting how players will develop based on relatively limited performance data at a young age. Since I've been alive for all of the last 14 years I know that Miles never developed into the star player he at one time projected as, that's the whole point really. Miles and Giannis both played regular minutes in their first NBA season at age 19. In virtually every measurable area Miles was at least equal to and in most cases a significantly better NBA player than Giannis was last year.

His skill level at 19 years old as a rookie NBA player was outstanding. At any given time there aren't usually more than a handful of players in the league who are capable of getting a rebound under the basket, bringing the ball up court through traffic and finishing on the other end. Miles was one of those players. Breaking down defenders off the dribble and finishing around the basket are also high level basketball skills that require more than just raw athleticism to execute, though it obviously helps.

 

[Chemical X]

lol i filed a missing ersan report.............

i was never taking him again, no matter the spot. gl though

 

[JMon348]

Omer asik

 

[Spartans Rule]

Omer asik

Great pick. He was my backup plan for Chandler back at 4.8 and I considered him this time around even though I already had a center.

When the rest of your team gets done fighting over whose turn it is to chuck up a bad shot, Omer will be there to clean up the rebounds.

 

[No. 16]

Real glad Zbo got picked. Would have been hard to pass on him in the 4th, but as much as I love his real life game it's not super ideal for the SIM. Annoyed that Taj was taken.

Also regarding the Greek Freak vs Randolph and Miller, the thing that really separates him is his jump shot and decision making. GF is already a 35% 3 point shooter and looks to set his teammates up. AR has fantastic handles but he's dumb as a rock and Miles doesn't have one NBA skill. I'll peg him at 12-10 ppg, 7 rebs, 3.5 ast. Nic Batum lite.

As a 19 yo Miles averaged 9.4 pts, 5.9 reb, 1.2 ast, 1.5 blk, and .6 stl in 26 MPG, and shot over 50% from the field.

NBA skills weren't Miles' problem.

Athleticism...running and dunking. He couldn't dribble, pass, or shoot.

I watched most every game of his first couple of years and disagree, he had all those tools. He even shot 35% from 16ft - 3pt range as rookie (hardly taking any 3 pointers at all) so among close watchers of the team at that stage we all thought he was likely to eventually develop into a decent shooter. He'd get out of control at times but was electric putting the ball on the floor and taking people of the dribble or going end to end in transition.

Thus....running and dunking.

He didn't even attempt 3 pointers (131 for his CAREER), his FT% was <60%, and that 16-3pt range shot was 36% for his career (NBA avg is around ~38%) so it's pretty safe to say he couldn't shoot.

He had a high of 2.6 AST per game (career 1.9 ast per game). If you want to compare AST%, his career 12.6 AST% is less than Carmelo Anthony (15.8 AST%). Oh an he averaged more TO than AST for his career (2 vs 1.9). So I think it's pretty safe to say he couldn't pass either.

I was living in SoCal at that time so I adopted those Clippers as my second team (F THE LAKERS!! Brand, Q, Odom, Miles, Magg) and watched them as much as a college kid could. He was a freak athlete, but had nothing else to his game. That's why he disappeared after he hurt his knee.

I feel like you aren't understanding the whole point of the conversation.

???. After I said Miles didn't have one NBA skill....you said, "NBA skills weren't Miles problem."

He couldn't shoot, pass, or make smart decisions. His only way to impact the game was with his athleticism. What am I missing?

You seem to be missing that this is about projecting how players will develop based on relatively limited performance data at a young age. Since I've been alive for all of the last 14 years I know that Miles never developed into the star player he at one time projected as, that's the whole point really. Miles and Giannis both played regular minutes in their first NBA season at age 19. In virtually every measurable area Miles was at least equal to and in most cases a significantly better NBA player than Giannis was last year.

His skill level at 19 years old as a rookie NBA player was outstanding. At any given time there aren't usually more than a handful of players in the league who are capable of getting a rebound under the basket, bringing the ball up court through traffic and finishing on the other end. Miles was one of those players. Breaking down defenders off the dribble and finishing around the basket are also high level basketball skills that require more than just raw athleticism to execute, though it obviously helps.

We just don't see things the same then.

Miles handled well enough to take advantage of his supreme athleticism and length, but the end game was the same.... to finish at the rim. He didn't look to set teammates up, nor could he space the floor with a jumper. Those are things Giannis does NOW as a rookie better than Miles EVER could.

Miles rookie season is no doubt better from a numbers standpoint and impact wise, but watching their games is completely different. There was never any evidence of shooting or passing skill with Miles. Giannis has all the length and athleticism of rookie Miles + 35% from 3 pointer range and the ability to play point guard.

 

[Spartans Rule]

lol i filed a missing ersan report.............

i was never taking him again, no matter the spot. gl though

It seems like most people think like this when they get burned by a guy.

I'm the opposite. I'm stubborn. I always think my logic in taking a player was right, but <insert excuse here> happened, so now this year he'll have that big year AND I'll get him 3 rounds later.

It rarely actually works.

 

[scoobus]

Omer asik

Uggggggggggh

 

[the moops]

there is way too Mich giannis talk going on in here. ***l

 

[scoobus]

Just skip me

 

[Gr00vus]

I can give a 4 player list to someone if it'll speed things up, assuming my pick comes up tomorrow morning.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

I can give a 4 player list to someone if it'll speed things up, assuming my pick comes up tomorrow morning.

Hit me.

Most of you have my number, but you can sext me at

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[Gr00vus]

I can give a 4 player list to someone if it'll speed things up, assuming my pick comes up tomorrow morning.

Hit me.

Most of you have my number, but you can sext me at

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21.6

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Prudish non-sexting PM sent.

 

[JB Breakfast Club]

sent a PM to TRE as well. Out for the next 3-4 hours.

 

[Pumpnick]

Who's up

 

[Slapdash]

Omer asik

I hate you

 

[Yo Mama]

Who's up

I think Chem X since Scoobus said to skip him.

 

[jomar]

PF: Paul Pierce

even in a Sim, this can't work out well

 

[Chemical X]

5.xx joe johnson

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

5.13 - Jeremy Lin

5.14 - JR Smith

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Who's up

You now I think

 

[scoobus]

Anderson Varejao