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NBA BTTF III - Draft Over! War of attrition underway... (1 Viewer)
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Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
Sheed's corpse is still available.
Eephus
Footballguy
I'm semi-curious to see how this team sims out. There's not a lot of pure point guard minutes. I have no idea how WIS values AST% and AST/TO in the sim engine but this team will probably end up leading the league in assists.
Kev4029
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Frostillicus
Footballguy
PG: John Wall, Greivis Vasquez, Jerryd Bayless
SG: Eric Bledsoe, Hollis Thompson, Alan Anderson, E'Twaun Moore
SF: Terrence Ross, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Francisco Garcia
PF: Greg Monroe, Julius Randle, Anthony Tolliver, Jeff Pendergraph
C: Amir Johnson, Jason Thompson, Kendrick Perkins, Lavoy Allen
Should be a pretty solid but not spectacular team with good defense. Could end up a top flight team if 1-2 guys take a pretty big leap. I think my best bet at being an elite team is in minutes. I should (SHOULD) have plenty of minutes, hopefully enough to end up with some packaging trades to upgrade in a couple places. Also if Terrence Ross wanted to become a stud that'd be pretty nifty.
SG: Eric Bledsoe, Hollis Thompson, Alan Anderson, E'Twaun Moore
SF: Terrence Ross, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Francisco Garcia
PF: Greg Monroe, Julius Randle, Anthony Tolliver, Jeff Pendergraph
C: Amir Johnson, Jason Thompson, Kendrick Perkins, Lavoy Allen
Should be a pretty solid but not spectacular team with good defense. Could end up a top flight team if 1-2 guys take a pretty big leap. I think my best bet at being an elite team is in minutes. I should (SHOULD) have plenty of minutes, hopefully enough to end up with some packaging trades to upgrade in a couple places. Also if Terrence Ross wanted to become a stud that'd be pretty nifty.
PG: Chris Paul, Dante Exum, Jannero Pargo
SG: DeMar DeRozan, Nik Stauskas, Jordan Clarkson, PJ Hairston
SF: Luol Deng, Al-Farouq Aminu, Thabo Sefolosha, Chris Copeland
PF: Pau Gasol, Marvin Williams, Brandon Davies
C: Enes Kanter, Gorgui Dieng, Nazr Mohammed, Alex Kirk
Not too bad here. I have a lot of players who can slot in multiple places, so it will be interesting to see where they are after the season shakes out. Probably too many rookies in the backcourt though.
SG: DeMar DeRozan, Nik Stauskas, Jordan Clarkson, PJ Hairston
SF: Luol Deng, Al-Farouq Aminu, Thabo Sefolosha, Chris Copeland
PF: Pau Gasol, Marvin Williams, Brandon Davies
C: Enes Kanter, Gorgui Dieng, Nazr Mohammed, Alex Kirk
Not too bad here. I have a lot of players who can slot in multiple places, so it will be interesting to see where they are after the season shakes out. Probably too many rookies in the backcourt though.
Yo Mama
Footballguy
Yeah. This is a solid team.
timschochet
Footballguy
Starting 5:
Tony Parker PG
Russell Westbrook SG
Carlos Boozer SF
Taj Gibson PF
Tim Duncan C
Bench: Manu Ginobili, Harrison Barnes, Udonis Haslem, Andre Roberson
If I can spread all the minutes around between these 9 players, then I think my team will be very good. If there are injuries, particularly to any of my starters, then it's going to get ugly because after these 9 the rest of my team is....speculative.
Tony Parker PG
Russell Westbrook SG
Carlos Boozer SF
Taj Gibson PF
Tim Duncan C
Bench: Manu Ginobili, Harrison Barnes, Udonis Haslem, Andre Roberson
If I can spread all the minutes around between these 9 players, then I think my team will be very good. If there are injuries, particularly to any of my starters, then it's going to get ugly because after these 9 the rest of my team is....speculative.
Eephus
Footballguy
They have to average 2187 minutes each to fill up the 48. Only Gibson exceeded that number in 13-14.
Yo Mama
Footballguy
Yeah, with the way the spurs rest their vets and with the fact Haslem won't be coming close to the minutes you'll need, you'll have to get all 12 on your roster to play as many minutes as possible.
No. 16
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The video showed 18 of his 19 FGM that game. Here's how I broke down his FGM.....Kev4029 said:
- Half court Dunks/Layups: 6 FGM, 1 assisted, 2 were off of offensive rebounds
- Fastbreak- 6 FGM, 2 assisted
- Mid-range: 5 FGM, 2 assisted
- 3 pointer: 1 3PM, 1 assisted (1/3 for game)
Of his 18 shots shown 12/18 were dunks/layups in half court or fast break. In the half-court, of the 12 made (close + mid + 3 pointer) he created 6 shots on his own..3 dunks/lay ups, and 3 long 2 pointers.
GAME BOX SCORE
19 FGM/33 attempts
14 missed FG. Assuming Miles didn't miss dunks/layups (a fair assumption) he went 6/14 on mid-range this game.
8/14 FT
0 AST - I get that he's on fire but still 40 minutes and 0 ast.
This game pretty much supports what I was saying. He's a run and jump player, who relied on athleticism. He dribbled well enough to exploit his the speed and explosiveness, but that's it.
No. 16
Footballguy
Here's my team....
STARTERS (MPG, based on last year total/82)
PG Stephen Curry (35)
SG Bradley Beal (31)
SF Lance Stephenson (34)
PF James Johnson (18)
C Chris Andersen (17)
The talent on the perimeter is what will carry this team. Curry is the star and he'll put up points and makes plays, but Born Ready and James Johnson are capable playmakers and Beal is far from a black hole so everyone should get good shots. Except for Beal, the other 4 starters shot average to above average from the field. The defense in the starting line up is anchored by Andersen (78) and Johnson (89) with the guys on the perimeter average (Beal 42 DEF/Curry 55 DEF) to below average (Stephenson - 32 DEF). The big weakness of this team will be rebounding, but the guys on the perimeter are good rebounders for their position so it might not be too bad.
BENCH
Danny Green (20) - This trio will be my main perimeter backups. They have excellent DEF ratings and score efficiently.
Patrick Beverley (21)
CJ Watson (15)
Kyle O'Quinn - The rest of my poo poo platter of low minute big men. It'll take everyone of the 6 guys to eat up the minutes at PF/C.
Ed Davis
Patrick Patterson
Jeremy Evans
LOTTERY TICKETS/MINUTES!!!
- Brandon Rush
- Meyers Leonard
- Ekpe Udoh
- Zoran Dragic
- James Jones
- Nemanja Nedovic
Last year I was able to hit on the Greek Freak and Miles Plumlee. The Freak forming a DEF platoon at SF with Iggy and Plumlee becoming my starting PF next to Noah. Doubt I'll have anything near as good this year. My bet would be on Brandon Rush becoming a worthy 3 and D guy.
Curry is what he is and that's the most destructive offensive force outside of LBJ, Durant, and Dirk. I think this team has a chance to win the league if Stephenson and Beal are able to make the leap into All*Stars level play. They certainly have the talent and situations to do so this year. My big men suck despite all the combing I did.
STARTERS (MPG, based on last year total/82)
PG Stephen Curry (35)
SG Bradley Beal (31)
SF Lance Stephenson (34)
PF James Johnson (18)
C Chris Andersen (17)
The talent on the perimeter is what will carry this team. Curry is the star and he'll put up points and makes plays, but Born Ready and James Johnson are capable playmakers and Beal is far from a black hole so everyone should get good shots. Except for Beal, the other 4 starters shot average to above average from the field. The defense in the starting line up is anchored by Andersen (78) and Johnson (89) with the guys on the perimeter average (Beal 42 DEF/Curry 55 DEF) to below average (Stephenson - 32 DEF). The big weakness of this team will be rebounding, but the guys on the perimeter are good rebounders for their position so it might not be too bad.
BENCH
Danny Green (20) - This trio will be my main perimeter backups. They have excellent DEF ratings and score efficiently.
Patrick Beverley (21)
CJ Watson (15)
Kyle O'Quinn - The rest of my poo poo platter of low minute big men. It'll take everyone of the 6 guys to eat up the minutes at PF/C.
Ed Davis
Patrick Patterson
Jeremy Evans
LOTTERY TICKETS/MINUTES!!!
- Brandon Rush
- Meyers Leonard
- Ekpe Udoh
- Zoran Dragic
- James Jones
- Nemanja Nedovic
Last year I was able to hit on the Greek Freak and Miles Plumlee. The Freak forming a DEF platoon at SF with Iggy and Plumlee becoming my starting PF next to Noah. Doubt I'll have anything near as good this year. My bet would be on Brandon Rush becoming a worthy 3 and D guy.
Curry is what he is and that's the most destructive offensive force outside of LBJ, Durant, and Dirk. I think this team has a chance to win the league if Stephenson and Beal are able to make the leap into All*Stars level play. They certainly have the talent and situations to do so this year. My big men suck despite all the combing I did.
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TobiasFunke
Footballguy
What'd I miss? Is the 18th round the last round? Should I just pick some recently retired guy to round out my squad?
Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
I don't think you need to limit your choices to recently retired. Some other options would include players overseas, 2nd round draft picks from the last few years that no one has ever heard of, the avatar of yourself from 2K15, or if all else fails just take Darius Miles.
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Sammy3469
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Stan's Majestic Moustache
Guards: Brandon Jennings, Avery Bradley, Marcus Smart, Phil Pressey, Shabazz Napier,
Bigger Guards/Wings: Chandler Parsons, Bojan Bogdanovic, Wayne Ellington, James Young
Forwards: Carmelo Anthony, Luc Mbah a Moute, Shavlik Randolph
Bigs: Marcin Gortat, David West, Tristan Thompson, Tyler Zeller, Emeka Okafor, Lucas Noguiera
This may end up being the biggest team in the league as Parsons and Bogdanovic will end up getting SG minutes and Bradley should through the magic of WIS get full PG effectiveness. If Jennings is somewhat effective, I can line up a 39%, 37%, and a 40% 3 point shooter at the 2, 3, 4.
Guards: Brandon Jennings, Avery Bradley, Marcus Smart, Phil Pressey, Shabazz Napier,
Bigger Guards/Wings: Chandler Parsons, Bojan Bogdanovic, Wayne Ellington, James Young
Forwards: Carmelo Anthony, Luc Mbah a Moute, Shavlik Randolph
Bigs: Marcin Gortat, David West, Tristan Thompson, Tyler Zeller, Emeka Okafor, Lucas Noguiera
This may end up being the biggest team in the league as Parsons and Bogdanovic will end up getting SG minutes and Bradley should through the magic of WIS get full PG effectiveness. If Jennings is somewhat effective, I can line up a 39%, 37%, and a 40% 3 point shooter at the 2, 3, 4.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Hmm. Well as a UNC fan it's certainly tempting to take the greatest ever to lace 'em up. But I'll try Joe Harris instead.
Eephus
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jomar
Footballguy
final roster:
PG - Michael Carter-Williams, Elfrid Patyon Jr, Luke Ridnour
SG - Eric Gordon, Ben McLemore, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
SF - Jeff Green, Tayshaun Prince, Perry Jones
PF - David Lee, Jared Sullinger, Aaron Gordon
C - Anthony Davis, Zaza Pachulia, Jeff Withey
other scrubs: Luigi Datome, Ricky Ledo, Quincy Pondexter
Davis, Lee and Sullinger should fill up 95% of my big man minutes. need a nice season from MCW and somebody to emerge from my 3 SGs to give me some efficient shooting and minutes.
I'll predict 51-31 with this team and at least 1 playoff series win
PG - Michael Carter-Williams, Elfrid Patyon Jr, Luke Ridnour
SG - Eric Gordon, Ben McLemore, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
SF - Jeff Green, Tayshaun Prince, Perry Jones
PF - David Lee, Jared Sullinger, Aaron Gordon
C - Anthony Davis, Zaza Pachulia, Jeff Withey
other scrubs: Luigi Datome, Ricky Ledo, Quincy Pondexter
Davis, Lee and Sullinger should fill up 95% of my big man minutes. need a nice season from MCW and somebody to emerge from my 3 SGs to give me some efficient shooting and minutes.
I'll predict 51-31 with this team and at least 1 playoff series win
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rodg12
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Last 5 rounds....
15.01 tre Darius Miller F
15.02 kraft Spencer Dinwiddie G
15.03 kev Shane Larkin PG
15.04 arsenal Jonas Jerebko F
15.05 funke Bryce Cotton G
15.06 abe Sergey Karasev G
15.07 coyote Steve Novak F
15.08 sparty Austin Daye F
15.09 moops James Ennis G
15.1 jmon Cole Aldrich C
15.11 scoobus Jimmer Fredette G
15.12 x Dennis Schroder G
15.13 jb breakfast Casper Ware G
15.14 groovus Ryan Hollins C
15.15 pump Markel Brown SG
15.16 frosty Jerryd Bayless PG
15.17 timschochet Xavier Henry SG
15.18 slapdash Brandon Davies PF
15.19 sammy Phil Pressey PG
15.2 no 16 Ekpe Udoh C
15.21 eephus Chris Douglas-Roberts SF
15.22 jomar Luigi Datome SF
15.23 rodg12 Gerald Wallace SF
15.24 yo mama Nate Wolters PG
16.01 yo mama Alexis Ajinca PF
16.02 rodg12 Damjan Rudez SF
16.03 jomar Jeff Withey C
16.04 eephus Quincy Acy F
16.05 no 16 Zoran Dragic SG
16.06 sammy Shavlik Randolph C
16.07 slapdash P.J. Hairston SG
16.08 timschochet Bernard James C
16.09 frosty Lavoy Allen PF
16.1 pump Antawn Jamison PF
16.11 grooovus Marquis Teague PG
16.12 jb breakfast Greg Stiemsma C
16.13 x Josh Howard F
16.14 scoobus Darrell Arthur F
16.15 jmon Joel Freeland C
16.16 moops Reggie Bullock F
16.17 sparty John Jenkins SG
16.18 coyote Jae Crowder SF
16.19 abe Ish Smith SG
16.2 funke Glen Rice Jr. SF
16.21 arsenal Jusuf Nurkic C
16.22 kev Joel Embiid C
16.23 kraft Richard Jefferson SF
16.24 tre Clint Capela SF
17.01 tre Kostas Papanikolaou F
17.02 kraft Andray Blatche PF
17.03 kev Jordan Hamilton SF
17.04 arsenal Seth Curry SG
17.05 funke Alonzo Gee SF
17.06 abe
17.07 coyote Jerami Grant PF
17.08 sparty Tyler Ennis PG
17.09 moops Jermaine O'Neal C
17.1 jmon Luke Babbitt SF
17.11 scoobus Aron Baynes C
17.12 x Robbie Hummel SF
17.13 jb breakfast Jarnell Stokes F
17.14 groovus Elliot Williams
17.15 pump
17.16 frosty Jeff Ayres PF
17.17 timschochet Ongjen Kuzmic C
17.18 slapdash Alex Kirk C
17.19 sammy Luca Noguiera PF
17.2 no 16 James Jones SG
17.21 eephus Quincy Miller F
17.22 jomar Ricky Ledo SG
17.23 rodg12 Ben Gordon SG
17.24 yo mama Travis Outlaw SF
18.01 yo mama Vitor Faverani C
18.02 rodg12 Sebastian Telfair PG
18.03 jomar Quincy Pondexter SF
18.04 eephus Mike Muscala C
18.05 no 16 Nemanja Nedovic SG
18.06 sammy James Young SF
18.07 slapdash Jannero Pargo PG
18.08 timschochet Robert Covington SF
18.09 frosty E'twaun Moore SG
18.1 pump
18.11 grooovus Jason Richardson SG
18.12 jb breakfast Landry Fields SG
18.13 x Charlie Villanueva PF
18.14 scoobus Jason Maxiell PF
18.15 jmon D.J. Mbenga C
18.16 moops Hasheem Thabeet C
18.17 sparty Shayne Whittington C
18.18 coyote Paul George SF
18.19 abe
18.2 funke Joe Harris SF
18.21 arsenal Kenyon Martin PF
18.22 kev Jordan Crawford SG
18.23 kraft Ian Clark SG
18.24 tre Donald Sloan PG
Kev4029
Footballguy
PG: Derrick Rose, Kirk Hinrich, (Dion Waiters)
SG: Wes Matthews, Dion Waiters, OJ Mayo
SF: Jimmy Butler, (Wes Matthews)
PF: Paul Pierce, Boris Diaw, Noah Vonleh
C: Marc Gasol, Kevin Garnett, Arnett Moultrie
Trash: Nick Calathes (Drugs), Shane Larkin (Sucks), Jordan Crawford (China), Jordan Hamilton (Sucks), Joel Embiid (Hepatitis), Pero Antic (Sucks)
A whole lot is hinging on Rose being an All-Star caliber player. If he is, this team will compete with anybody, if not it’ll be a fight to make the pretend playoffs. I wish I could have gotten a better third big, but hopefully Vonleh or Moultrie can put up better numbers on more minutes than expected.
SG: Wes Matthews, Dion Waiters, OJ Mayo
SF: Jimmy Butler, (Wes Matthews)
PF: Paul Pierce, Boris Diaw, Noah Vonleh
C: Marc Gasol, Kevin Garnett, Arnett Moultrie
Trash: Nick Calathes (Drugs), Shane Larkin (Sucks), Jordan Crawford (China), Jordan Hamilton (Sucks), Joel Embiid (Hepatitis), Pero Antic (Sucks)
A whole lot is hinging on Rose being an All-Star caliber player. If he is, this team will compete with anybody, if not it’ll be a fight to make the pretend playoffs. I wish I could have gotten a better third big, but hopefully Vonleh or Moultrie can put up better numbers on more minutes than expected.
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
I like a lot of the picks in terms of value, but as a whole, this team is gonna get killed on the glass.
No. 16
Footballguy
Russell Westbrook percent of FG assisted:
2 pointers: 20.2%
3 pointers: 50.8%
Darius Miles percent of FG assisted:
2 pointers: 59.5%
3 pointers: 77.3%
Kendrick Perkins percent of FG assisted:
2 pointers: 61%
3 pointers: N/A
Wrong. Westbrook can create his own offense. Darius Miles couldn't.
Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
Kevin Garnett percent of FG Assisted:
2 Pointers: 67.2%
3 Pointers: 79.5%
Kevin Durant percent of FG Assisted:
2 Pointers: 48.3%
3 Pointers: 77.8%
Dirk Nowitzki percent FG Assisted:
2 Pointers: 54.5%
3 Pointers: 92.8%
KG, KD, Dirk = no skill
Fools can't even create their own shots.
Kev4029
Footballguy
Yeah it'll be an issue, but I started Wall, Ray Allen, Ginobili, Pierce and Bosh, with rebounding duds like Nene and Wright coming off the bench last season and didn't have a big problem with defensive rebounds. On the defensive glass, I should be merely below average, rather than awful, but I have some of the worst offensive rebounders in captivity on my roster, so these guys better make their shots.
No. 16
Footballguy
KD and Dirk create more 2 pointers own their own than Miles, they also score more efficiently while creating more of their shots.
- 52% eFG for KD
- 51.4% eFG for Dirk
- 49% eFG for Miles
KG has more % of FG assisted but his eFG is higher 50.2%.
Also, all 3 have high AST% (they can pass to their teammates) compared to Miles 12.6% AST.
- KD, 17%, 20+% the past 2 years
- KG, 19.5%
- Dirk, 13.2%
So yes these guys have more NBA skills than Miles. Want to try again?
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scoobus
Footballguy
PG: Isaiah Thomas, Andre Miller, Nate Robinson
SG: Marco Belinelli, Courtney Lee
SF: Terrence Williams, Doug McDermott, Shawn Marion
PF: Andre Drummond, Reggie Evans
C: Brook Lopez, Anderson Varejao
Bad: Jared Dudley, Will Bynum, Jimmer, Darrell Arthur, Aron Baynes, Jason Maxiell
But nah, I'll make the playoffs.
SG: Marco Belinelli, Courtney Lee
SF: Terrence Williams, Doug McDermott, Shawn Marion
PF: Andre Drummond, Reggie Evans
C: Brook Lopez, Anderson Varejao
Bad: Jared Dudley, Will Bynum, Jimmer, Darrell Arthur, Aron Baynes, Jason Maxiell
But nah, I'll make the playoffs.
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Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
BREAKING NEWS:No. 16 said:
Darius Miles not as skilled as 3 Hall of Fame caliber players... stay tuned for details at 11:00
Frostillicus
Footballguy
All this Kendrick Perkins talk is making me horny.Arsenal of Doom said:
:championship:
Frostillicus
Footballguy
That is the worst team I've ever seen.scoobus said:PG: Isaiah Thomas, Andre Miller, Nate Robinson
SG: Marco Belinelli, Courtney Lee
SF: Terrence Williams, Doug McDermott, Shawn Marion
PF: Andre Drummond, Reggie Evans
C: Brook Lopez, Anderson Varejao
Bad: Jared Dudley, Will Bynum, Jimmer, Darrell Arthur, Aron Baynes, Jason Maxiell
But nah, I'll make the playoffs.
Not an Orangeman in sight.
Frostillicus
Footballguy
Frostillicus
Footballguy
Notorious T.R.E.
Showdown!™ Administrator
I have him. :wave:
Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
First pre-season action for Gallo tonight:
17 points on 5-9 shooting, 2-4 on 3 pointers, 4 boards and an assist in 14 minutes.
Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
Notorious T.R.E.
Showdown!™ Administrator
Ok, I'm not sure if everyone caught up or not, but no more picks allowed at this point. Players are dropping like flies and we can't let the lazy gain an advantage.
Eephus
Footballguy
scoobus
Footballguy
I try not to take any so I have more players to root for.That is the worst team I've ever seen.PG: Isaiah Thomas, Andre Miller, Nate Robinson
SG: Marco Belinelli, Courtney Lee
SF: Terrence Williams, Doug McDermott, Shawn Marion
PF: Andre Drummond, Reggie Evans
C: Brook Lopez, Anderson Varejao
Bad: Jared Dudley, Will Bynum, Jimmer, Darrell Arthur, Aron Baynes, Jason Maxiell
But nah, I'll make the playoffs.
Not an Orangeman in sight.
Almost had to pull the trigger on Arinze in the last round though, still can't believe nobody picked him.
Frostillicus
Footballguy
I looked at him.I try not to take any so I have more players to root for.That is the worst team I've ever seen.PG: Isaiah Thomas, Andre Miller, Nate Robinson
SG: Marco Belinelli, Courtney Lee
SF: Terrence Williams, Doug McDermott, Shawn Marion
PF: Andre Drummond, Reggie Evans
C: Brook Lopez, Anderson Varejao
Bad: Jared Dudley, Will Bynum, Jimmer, Darrell Arthur, Aron Baynes, Jason Maxiell
But nah, I'll make the playoffs.
Not an Orangeman in sight.
Almost had to pull the trigger on Arinze in the last round though, still can't believe nobody picked him.
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