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Didn't know this was even possible but struck out completely last night on 3 lineups ($30 entry from previous two nights winnings), including one at 261 which was barely 25% percentile. The most I've ever lost in NFL for one weekend is maybe 50% but last night managed a complete o-fer ... some dude got ejected, others sucked including "must start" Chris kaman. Must've been a high scoring night because the cutoff for 50/50 was around 287, while the tourneys were about 291.

Only 4 NBA games tonight so might sit this one out
I went 0-19 with my double up lineup as well. My tourney lineup got me $5 on $2 wagered so it wasn't a complete loss. I will also be sitting tonight out as there is football on, but will be back at grinding tomorrow night.
When I played NBA and NHL more in the past, like 2 years ago, I found the nights with 8, 9, 10+ games more difficult than say 5, 6 games (like Tuesday night this week). There's probably posts in here trying to figure out why, I'm not sure I ever did. Maybe it was just a personal thing, I don't know. Hoping to jump back in with you guys soon....but I will be going very light on most Wed, Fri and Sat nights (for NBA).

 
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it's a joke how much info is being spoon fed to the player base on fanduel with those articles every night. It is almost like fanduel wants everyone to do decent and beat each other, while they make a killing off their cut.

Anyone else agree?

Btw, is there any daily sites that don't give away all the best starts every night in articles? I might try it out

 
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it's a joke how much info is being spoon fed to the player base on fanduel with those articles every night. It is almost like fanduel wants everyone to do decent and beat each other, while they make a killing off their cut.

Anyone else agree?

Btw, is there any daily sites that don't give away all the best starts every night in articles? I might try it out
How often have they been screwing up this year (ie, the Teague call last night)? That type of info is gold. Almost as if those articles will highlight for you the players that will be highly owned, like how we sample data for NFL on Thursday contests for our Sunday contests. The NBA article isn't as strong of an indication I'm sure, but it would be interesting to know at what percentage those listed players were owned last night (do any of you want to look them up?). As far as Teague goes, it's like when they used to have chat on the side of the screen. There was so much misinformation going on it was great for the person that only watched the info scroll but didn't blindly believe it.

 
it's a joke how much info is being spoon fed to the player base on fanduel with those articles every night. It is almost like fanduel wants everyone to do decent and beat each other, while they make a killing off their cut.

Anyone else agree?

Btw, is there any daily sites that don't give away all the best starts every night in articles? I might try it out
How often have they been screwing up this year (ie, the Teague call last night)? That type of info is gold. Almost as if those articles will highlight for you the players that will be highly owned, like how we sample data for NFL on Thursday contests for our Sunday contests. The NBA article isn't as strong of an indication I'm sure, but it would be interesting to know at what percentage those listed players were owned last night (do any of you want to look them up?). As far as Teague goes, it's like when they used to have chat on the side of the screen. There was so much misinformation going on it was great for the person that only watched the info scroll but didn't blindly believe it.
https://www.fanduel.com/insider/2014/12/17/fanduel-nba-cash-game-plays-for-wednesday-december-17th/

Jeff Teague was injured or that probably would have been a good start.

Rondo was gold

Harden was gold

Giannis would have been gold if he didn't get injured

Hayward was gold

Deng was a bust but the pick made sense with Bosh out and how he played without him so far points wise

Millsap was so so

Donatas was solid

Vuc / kanter were all good picks as welll

I find it very discouraging being a grinder on h2hs 5050s when info is being spoon fed to people that can't work twitter or do any kind of research on their own.

Am I really the only one?

 
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find a way to exploit info that's not being disseminated. if you think there's no info to be exploited that's not already spoon fed by FanDuel, probably best to sit the games out :shrug: .

 
Didn't know this was even possible but struck out completely last night on 3 lineups ($30 entry from previous two nights winnings), including one at 261 which was barely 25% percentile. The most I've ever lost in NFL for one weekend is maybe 50% but last night managed a complete o-fer ... some dude got ejected, others sucked including "must start" Chris kaman. Must've been a high scoring night because the cutoff for 50/50 was around 287, while the tourneys were about 291.

Only 4 NBA games tonight so might sit this one out
I went 0-19 with my double up lineup as well. My tourney lineup got me $5 on $2 wagered so it wasn't a complete loss. I will also be sitting tonight out as there is football on, but will be back at grinding tomorrow night.
When I played NBA and NHL more in the past, like 2 years ago, I found the nights with 8, 9, 10+ games more difficult than say 5, 6 games (like Tuesday night this week). There's probably posts in here trying to figure out why, I'm not sure I ever did. Maybe it was just a personal thing, I don't know. Hoping to jump back in with you guys soon....but I will be going very light on most Wed, Fri and Sat nights (for NBA).
ITT noobs sample NBA daily games; noobs have initial success; noobs get pwnd on a big night with 3 0T (and another OT). I even had a few grizz/spurs players.

Basically I was stacking my winnings on top each night, so the loss for me Wednesday was $30 but it was really just my initial $10 wager from Monday topped with $20 in winnings from Monday and Tuesday.

I think my mistake last night was playing too many "value" plays that I have no idea who they were, other than having found some article calling them a 'must play'.

 
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find a way to exploit info that's not being disseminated. if you think there's no info to be exploited that's not already spoon fed by FanDuel, probably best to sit the games out :shrug: .
Exactly, well put...always had my best success in NBA and NHL exploiting news/players.

and wow I didn't notice I was looking at the Super Slam picks and there was ALSO a cash article.

 
it's a joke how much info is being spoon fed to the player base on fanduel with those articles every night. It is almost like fanduel wants everyone to do decent and beat each other, while they make a killing off their cut.

Anyone else agree?

Btw, is there any daily sites that don't give away all the best starts every night in articles? I might try it out
Where do you see these articles on FD? The "Insider blog" has no posts for NBA since December 3rd.

I've mostly been using Rotoworld's news blurbs and articles, some of which are content imported from Rotogrinders. There are a few 'premium' websites, but wondering if it's really worth the steep prices ($30 per month) when there's so much free content available.

 
it's a joke how much info is being spoon fed to the player base on fanduel with those articles every night. It is almost like fanduel wants everyone to do decent and beat each other, while they make a killing off their cut.

Anyone else agree?

Btw, is there any daily sites that don't give away all the best starts every night in articles? I might try it out
How often have they been screwing up this year (ie, the Teague call last night)? That type of info is gold. Almost as if those articles will highlight for you the players that will be highly owned, like how we sample data for NFL on Thursday contests for our Sunday contests. The NBA article isn't as strong of an indication I'm sure, but it would be interesting to know at what percentage those listed players were owned last night (do any of you want to look them up?). As far as Teague goes, it's like when they used to have chat on the side of the screen. There was so much misinformation going on it was great for the person that only watched the info scroll but didn't blindly believe it.
https://www.fanduel.com/insider/2014/12/17/fanduel-nba-cash-game-plays-for-wednesday-december-17th/

Jeff Teague was injured or that probably would have been a good start.

Rondo was gold

Harden was gold

Giannis would have been gold if he didn't get injured

Hayward was gold

Deng was a bust but the pick made sense with Bosh out and how he played without him so far points wise

Millsap was so so

Donatas was solid

Vuc / kanter were all good picks as welll

I find it very discouraging being a grinder on h2hs 5050s when info is being spoon fed to people that can't work twitter or do any kind of research on their own.

Am I really the only one?
No, probably not. So either you complain to FD and see what they say....or try to use it to your advantage somehow.

I think your information above is a start...but more importantly we have to know those players percentages in daily and gpp contests.

Are these articles any different than what is done on the big sites (espn, cbs, yahoo, etc) for their fantasy sports? Are you mad at them when you go to pick up a sleeper defense for the week but you got sniped because Yahoo posted an article earlier in the day about who to pick up?

 
it's a joke how much info is being spoon fed to the player base on fanduel with those articles every night. It is almost like fanduel wants everyone to do decent and beat each other, while they make a killing off their cut.

Anyone else agree?

Btw, is there any daily sites that don't give away all the best starts every night in articles? I might try it out
Where do you see these articles on FD? The "Insider blog" has no posts for NBA since December 3rd.

I've mostly been using Rotoworld's news blurbs and articles, some of which are content imported from Rotogrinders. There are a few 'premium' websites, but wondering if it's really worth the steep prices ($30 per month) when there's so much free content available.
At the top they have that section "Features". You will either see it right there, or sometimes it flows off the main view and you have to click the dots to the right. That's how I've always seen them at least.

 
I find it very discouraging being a grinder on h2hs 5050s when info is being spoon fed to people that can't work twitter or do any kind of research on their own.

Am I really the only one?
Are these articles any different than what is done on the big sites (espn, cbs, yahoo, etc) for their fantasy sports? Are you mad at them when you go to pick up a sleeper defense for the week but you got sniped because Yahoo posted an article earlier in the day about who to pick up?
with yearly league they can say peyton is a top QB this week all they want, but if you don't have him you can't play him, and with fanduel every player is available to you.

I am done whining, I mainly just wanted to know if there is another site that doesn't spoon feed info as it might have easier h2h games for grinding.

I can definitely see how the articles are useful for making a tournament LU though

 
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I find it very discouraging being a grinder on h2hs 5050s when info is being spoon fed to people that can't work twitter or do any kind of research on their own.

Am I really the only one?
Are these articles any different than what is done on the big sites (espn, cbs, yahoo, etc) for their fantasy sports? Are you mad at them when you go to pick up a sleeper defense for the week but you got sniped because Yahoo posted an article earlier in the day about who to pick up?
with yearly league they can say peyton is a top QB this week all they want, but if you don't have him you can't play him, and with fanduel every player is available to you.

I am done whining, I mainly just wanted to know if there is another site that doesn't spoon feed info as it might have easier h2h games for grinding.

I can definitely see how the articles are useful for making a tournament LU though
I get my example wasn't great, but I was referring to like weekly FA pickups.

Anyways, I'll reiterate, the articles can be good for various contests, not just GPP, if the data is gathered and analyzed for a period of time. Just listing the 10 players in the article and whether FD hit on them or missed doesn't give us much (unless they are hitting or missing at a ridiculous rate, which probably isn't happening).

 
might update it when more injury news comes out but I like this a lot for cash games

Russell Westbrook

Patrick Beverley

Ben McLemore

James Harden

Khris Middleton (bump with parker out for the year)

Quincy Acy (gets a bump with amare out)

Nikola Mirotic (only if gibson is out and with this game most likely being a blow out he could see extra minutes with garbage time)

Anthony Davis (could go gasol here but with the game most likely being a blow out id rather play AD here)

Samuel Dalembert (bump with amare out)

Dwight on a b2b after playing 40+ minutes last night seems risky to me while he is trying to get healthy.

thoughts anyone?

 
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Gracias. Put this together (pre-article input):

Westbrook

Beverly

Hardaway

Morrow

AI

Anthony

Motijunas

Speights

Howard
might update it when more injury news comes out but I like this a lot for cash games

Russell Westbrook

Patrick Beverley

Ben McLemore

James Harden

Khris Middleton (bump with parker out for the year)

Quincy Acy (gets a bump with amare out)

Nikola Mirotic (only if gibson is out and with this game most likely being a blow out he could see extra minutes with garbage time)

Anthony Davis (could go gasol here but with the game most likely being a blow out id rather play AD here)

Samuel Dalembert (bump with amare out)

Dwight on a b2b after playing 40+ minutes last night seems risky to me while he is trying to get healthy.

thoughts anyone?
Tweaking based on some injuries (Melo is questionable but don't think I want to risk it). Good call on Acy at his price:

Westbrook

Beverly

Hardaway

McLemore/Middleton/AI - not sure on this. AI can fill up the stat sheet other than points.

Acy

Ibaka

Gasol

Howard

Would prefer to work in both Davis and Howard but can't make the dollars work.

 
NBA 5050s seemed littered with high win total players. What cash contests are you guys playing and what level (if you don't mind)?

 
I just started last week so take this with a grain of salt. I started playing the $1 50/50s, am currently playing the $2 double ups. I think we have to look at the win totals a little differently with NBA because it is a nightly contest rather than weekly like NFL.

 
I just started last week so take this with a grain of salt. I started playing the $1 50/50s, am currently playing the $2 double ups. I think we have to look at the win totals a little differently with NBA because it is a nightly contest rather than weekly like NFL.
Good point. I don't see any $2 double ups today so I'll play a few 5050s.

 
Karma, Speights works dollar wise for the trio...but word comes in on Boogie (and to a lessor extent Evans) by 8pm, Thompson makes a great play to get the trio. Debatable whether Speights/AD is better than Gasol/Ibaka.

 
Karma, Speights works dollar wise for the trio...but word comes in on Boogie (and to a lessor extent Evans) by 8pm, Thompson makes a great play to get the trio. Debatable whether Speights/AD is better than Gasol/Ibaka.
Yeah I was just able to build a lineup around Westbrook-Davis-Howard:

Westbrook

Beverly

Hardaway

McLemore

Acy

AI

Davis

Speights

Howard

has $600 leftover too

 
I have that lineup in except for Middleton over AI. If Sactown breaks news on their bigs by 8, I will go Thompson over Speights. Sucks that my son has a game tonight at 6:45 so I'm not sure if I'll be able to track the news down at the gym or driving.

edit: popsecret....I don't want to bump Acy AND Dalembert just because Amare is out. At least would not want them both in the same lineup. Just a thought.

 
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I just started last week so take this with a grain of salt. I started playing the $1 50/50s, am currently playing the $2 double ups. I think we have to look at the win totals a little differently with NBA because it is a nightly contest rather than weekly like NFL.
Good point. I don't see any $2 double ups today so I'll play a few 5050s.
Doing roughly the same, 2-3 lineups per night with a sprinkle of $1 x 3 or 4 50/50s, a Double (there were a few this morning but are gone - the Triple Double is roughly equivalent, it's a triple for top 100 and double for top 101-200), and a $1 tourney thrown on top.

I figure the competition will be tougher, but if I can learn the ropes now, it should ease up after week 16 and after the AFC/NFC championship when more NFL players migrate over. Just trying to be ahead of the migration.

If you could wager $100 per night and consistently make a solid 20%-30% return, it's as good or better as or better as wagering more and returning a slightly better return on NFL games every weekend. Compare:

7 x $100 x 30% return = 210

1 x $500 x 40% return = 200

 
Alt big 3?

Curry

Beverly

Harden

McLemore

Middleton

Acy

ADavis

Thompson/Speights/Mirotic

Adams

 
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Alt big 3?

Curry

Beverly

Harden

McLemore

Middleton

Acy

ADavis

Thompson/Speights

Adams
How can you not play westbrook? He has been absolutely dominating

Only way I can see not playing him is for a tournament LU

 
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Alt big 3?

Curry

Beverly

Harden

McLemore

Middleton

Acy

ADavis

Thompson/Speights

Adams
How can you not play westbrook? He has been absolutely dominating

Only way I can see not playing him is for a tournament LU
Technically, I agree...but I was looking for a Howard fade because it's been mentioned here regarding his B2B and it's the first thing my NBA buddy said when I texted him the lineup.

 
Wagered $12 on 3 lineups, two of which cashed for $21, and even crept up into the tourney standings.

Curry-Davis-Noah = 308

Westbrook-Noah = 258 (missed 50/50 and Double by 1-3 points)

Westbrook-Howard = 289

Most of my fillers hit pretty well, including Beverly, Hardaway, McLemore, Ariza.

 
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I think it might be better talking about must have plays, or guys that you just think will be very good instead of exact LUs.

Smart at PG is a must start if he is starting. Avery Bradley is a very solid pick as well if none of the guys they traded for play today.( and if smart doesn't play he is looking at a huge amount of minutes and for his price there isn't much downside)

Duncan has proven he can dominate especially with guys missing from the starting LU like leonard, but he played a ton of minutes last game, so although he could put up 50 tonight I could also see him playing only 26 minutes(he played over 40 minutes his last game) and scoring around 30s. I would only play him in tournaments, not h2h.

Rose is doubtful, if he is out butler is a must play again and brooks is a solid value play.

Kevin Durant is questionable, if he doesn't play, westbrook is a definite 50+ points.

There are more things to be aware of but thats it for now.

Anyone else have anything?

 
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popsecret said:
I think it might be better talking about must have plays, or guys that you just think will be very good instead of exact LUs.

Smart at PG is a must start if he is starting. Avery Bradley is a very solid pick as well if none of the guys they traded for play today.( and if smart doesn't play he is looking at a huge amount of minutes and for his price there isn't much downside)

Duncan has proven he can dominate especially with guys missing from the starting LU like leonard, but he played a ton of minutes last game, so although he could put up 50 tonight I could also see him playing only 26 minutes(he played over 40 minutes his last game) and scoring around 30s. I would only play him in tournaments, not h2h.

Rose is doubtful, if he is out butler is a must play again and brooks is a solid value play.

Kevin Durant is questionable, if he doesn't play, westbrook is a definite 50+ points.

There are more things to be aware of but thats it for now.

Anyone else have anything?
Agreed that the Boston players are solid values in the vacuum created by Rondo, esp before Jameer gets up to speed.

Other must play - Aaron Brooks with DRose out, at his 3500 price tag.

Which studs do you guys like? Westbrook is a better option than other elite PGs with Durant out or slightly limited. Even if he plays, Westbrook has been a regular 50 point beast.

 
popsecret said:
I think it might be better talking about must have plays, or guys that you just think will be very good instead of exact LUs.

Smart at PG is a must start if he is starting. Avery Bradley is a very solid pick as well if none of the guys they traded for play today.( and if smart doesn't play he is looking at a huge amount of minutes and for his price there isn't much downside)

Duncan has proven he can dominate especially with guys missing from the starting LU like leonard, but he played a ton of minutes last game, so although he could put up 50 tonight I could also see him playing only 26 minutes(he played over 40 minutes his last game) and scoring around 30s. I would only play him in tournaments, not h2h.

Rose is doubtful, if he is out butler is a must play again and brooks is a solid value play.

Kevin Durant is questionable, if he doesn't play, westbrook is a definite 50+ points.

There are more things to be aware of but thats it for now.

Anyone else have anything?
Agreed that the Boston players are solid values in the vacuum created by Rondo, esp before Jameer gets up to speed.

Other must play - Aaron Brooks with DRose out, at his 3500 price tag.

Which studs do you guys like? Westbrook is a better option than other elite PGs with Durant out or slightly limited. Even if he plays, Westbrook has been a regular 50 point beast.
Obviously Westbrook, but also Griffin has a great MU, and with the game projected to be close he could have a 45 to 60ish type game

I also like Jefferson at C

Also, gotta keep riding that D wade train until his price reflects Bosh not playing or until Bosh comes back

 
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Last night will be the last time I don't at least put up $1 in a GPP. Scored 330, which was good for 1st out of 80 in both my 50/50s.

Also I like Jeff Green tonight, the offense should run through him with Rondo now gone.

 
Last night will be the last time I don't at least put up $1 in a GPP. Scored 330, which was good for 1st out of 80 in both my 50/50s.

Also I like Jeff Green tonight, the offense should run through him with Rondo now gone.
What are Jeff Greens #s with Rondo out of the LU compared to with him in the LU?

 
Does Zeller get less of a run with Rondo out of town now? Maybe Kelly gets a bump because the reasoning for benching him was that Zeller played better with Rondo apparently.

 
Only had 1 lineup tonight. Probably headed for a just miss again.

Westbrook

Brooks

Butler

Avery

Shabazz

Lebron

Ibaka

Thad

Birdman

 
Thank goodness I entered my lineup in a GPP tonight. Turned $2 into $25. If only I would have bet more, or if that OKC/LA game would have went into OT.

Westbrook

Brooks

Butler

Neal

Muhammad

Covington

Aldridge

Favors

Plumlee

 
nice LU cacks

my LU tonight won most of my h2hs and placed in all the leagues/tournaments but I didn't have any of the guys from that triple OT game, so serious tournament money was a no go.

 
Is it just me or is FD a lot easier to cash than Draft Kings? It makes sense that FD would attract the more casual player, especially with them being the official daily sports site of the NBA and the bigger of the two sites.

I started out at DK for football, but will probably play the majority of the time on FD now. In NBA I'm 8-6 on 50/50s on Draft Kings and am 9-0 in 50/50s and 1-0 on tournaments in FD.

 
Is it just me or is FD a lot easier to cash than Draft Kings? It makes sense that FD would attract the more casual player, especially with them being the official daily sports site of the NBA and the bigger of the two sites.

I started out at DK for football, but will probably play the majority of the time on FD now. In NBA I'm 8-6 on 50/50s on Draft Kings and am 9-0 in 50/50s and 1-0 on tournaments in FD.
Try not to get too carried away, it is still early. You are on a winning streak now but don't assume it will always be easy, you'll have your bad days too(a guy bust, foul trouble, injury or coach decides to get cute with player minutes / blow outs).

The trick is to have a betting system in place that accounts for bad days and good days(bet by a percentage, say 10 percent of your roll per night), so you don't go broke trying to win back the money you lost on a bad night because you decided to bet heavy thinking you were unbeatable.

That happened to me when I first started on fanduel I went like 1000 wins and 100 losses and when I decided to start betting really big I went on a losing streak and kept betting more trying to win back what I lost.

Had I been betting by a percentage I wouldn't have lost nearly as much money as I did during that losing streak.

 
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What are the target cash and gpp scores for nba FD again? Last night did just 1 5050 with the lineup above, and while it easily cashed in a 5050, the cut was 291pts.

 
nice LU cacks

my LU tonight won most of my h2hs and placed in all the leagues/tournaments but I didn't have any of the guys from that triple OT game, so serious tournament money was a no go.
Why do u play H2Hs? Do u post them or do u look for low win targets? What is your general breakdown between h2h, cash and gpp each night? I don't really see the point of playing h2h unless u are a pro grinder. Seems like a bad investment over time.
 
What are the target cash and gpp scores for nba FD again? Last night did just 1 5050 with the lineup above, and while it easily cashed in a 5050, the cut was 291pts.
I read some where that cash was 275, but not sure. earlier this week I posted a 269 and swept my double ups. Last night I posted a 297 and went 2-8 :shrug:

 
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nice LU cacks

my LU tonight won most of my h2hs and placed in all the leagues/tournaments but I didn't have any of the guys from that triple OT game, so serious tournament money was a no go.
Why do u play H2Hs? Do u post them or do u look for low win targets? What is your general breakdown between h2h, cash and gpp each night? I don't really see the point of playing h2h unless u are a pro grinder. Seems like a bad investment over time.
I like h2hs because if you spend 100 on h2hs and have a slightly below avg night you can get 30 or 40 dollars back maybe. If you have a slightly below avg night playing double ups or 5050 you lose it all. On the flip side tho if you have a good night you go undefeated in double ups and win double your money back, so there are advantages and disadvantages to both sides. i go as low risk as possible

 
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What are the target cash and gpp scores for nba FD again? Last night did just 1 5050 with the lineup above, and while it easily cashed in a 5050, the cut was 291pts.
I read some where that cash was 275, but not sure. earlier this week I posted a 269 and swept my double ups. Last night I posted a 297 and went 2-8 :shrug:
whenever there is a triple OT night scoring is going to be ####ed

 

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