General Malaise
Footballguy
Blazers won again behind a huge night from LA. At some point, the guy averaging 23 and 10 (trending higher) for a first place team in the West (not the fake division) has to get in the mix for MVP.
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Abraham
Footballguy
Yup. I like jones, but last night should silence those that thought the team could contend this year with him as the starting 4. Hello Paul mill-sap
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
So what's the official FFA All-Star Ballot? I've voted a couple times, gone with this:
West:
Aldridge
Durant
Love
Curry
Paul
East:
Drummond
George
James
Wade
Wall
West:
Aldridge
Durant
Love
Curry
Paul
East:
Drummond
George
James
Wade
Wall
Timmay
Footballguy
All star voting results.
Pretty sad the popularity contest comes into effect.
Kobe-2nd overall vote getter in the west.
Lin is 4th in the backcourt, even in front of Harden.
Aldridge getting little love, despite going beast mode this year.
Pretty sad the popularity contest comes into effect.
Kobe-2nd overall vote getter in the west.
Lin is 4th in the backcourt, even in front of Harden.
Aldridge getting little love, despite going beast mode this year.
Notorious T.R.E.
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31 and 25 tonight. 
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
The Asik for Anderson Varejao rumor seems like fair value to me. I don't know how Bynum and Asik fit together but I guess Bynum won't ever play heavy minutes again.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Rockets get a player who won't pout about being a backup and is better than whatever else they have there. Cavs get a good defensive player for this year and next for only a $8 million cap hit. Seems like a win-win to me.
sports_fan
Footballguy
I'd like to see Asik in Boston. Seems like he'd be a good fit there. Not sure who they'd give up though.
Abraham
Footballguy
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
I felt like there should be a big man on there even though it's no longer a requirement on the ballot.tommyGunZ said:
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Houston giving up their only trade chip for little to no improvement just to get rid of a guy who doesn't pout seem like a bad plan to me. It doesn't help their spacing issues very much. The cap hit for the Cavs is irrelevant. If they pick up the option on Varejao, it is only $1M more.Juxtatarot said:
I think the most realistic/best trade would be Asik for Bargnani. Asik fills the void of the oft injured Chandler and Bargnani is the stretch 4 that Houston needs to pair with Howard and Howard can cover up some of Bargnani's piss poor defence.
Or, Asik to Cleveland, Bargnani to Houston and Varejao to NY.
sports_fan
Footballguy
Cliff Clavin
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simmonjm
Footballguy
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Abraham
Footballguy
Why? They don't play defense. They barely rebound. The idea of having a second unit center come in and add energy and effort on the defensive end is not a good one - they just tried that and it has been a disaster. Plus jones can be that guy.
They've had good success with casspi at the four, basically shooting threes and clearing the middle for Dwight.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Notorious T.R.E. said:General Malaise said:31 and 25 tonight.
Hey, remember when you traded him away for peanuts in Uber?
Stupid Yao Ming
sports_fan
Footballguy
Bargnani has 153. Only marginally better. Bargs is trash. I'm not sure why people still like him.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Notorious T.R.E. said:General Malaise said:31 and 25 tonight.Hey, remember when you traded him away for peanuts in Uber?
Yeah.
Stupid Yao Ming
Stupid Yao Ming
Abraham
Footballguy
I am thankful Thomas Robinson is becoming a productive player. I was very excited to acquire him at this time last year and wish he's factored in in Houston, but my pre-draft thought that he could develop to be the third best player on a contender is still looking shakey.
I really like t jones but last night was startling. He spent so much energy ineffectively guarding LA that he was near worthless on the other end of the floor. Presuming dork Elvis can't pull off a deal for Anderson or horford, here is my list of preferred players...
1. Deng
2. Millsaps
3. Waiters and Thompson combo (Asik and a 1?)
4. Bargs.
I really like t jones but last night was startling. He spent so much energy ineffectively guarding LA that he was near worthless on the other end of the floor. Presuming dork Elvis can't pull off a deal for Anderson or horford, here is my list of preferred players...
1. Deng
2. Millsaps
3. Waiters and Thompson combo (Asik and a 1?)
4. Bargs.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Oh I completely agree that he is trash. But pairing him with Howard and Harden would hide a lot of ####tiness.
sports_fan
Footballguy
Bargnani shoots 44%. Awful for a big. And he shoots a lot which just hurts you further. Man defense is the only thing he does well but his help d is so bad it offsets that.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Knicks Fun Fact- Bargs has the highest eFG% of any of the 5 most frequent starters (Anthony, Felton, Shumpert, Martin). He's also second on the team in Win Shares with 1.1.
Pretty much the textbook definition of damning with faint praise.
ETA: correction, Martin's is slightly higher. Bargs is the highest among all guys with at least 20 minutes a game though.
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Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
And yet he is 2nd worst on the team with -10.2 rating. A'mare holds the lead with -12.9.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
So, apparently the Nets are now trying to get Lowry.
Offering Teletubby, Bogdanovich and the little Kansas guard that stinks. If TOR can't resist that, they'll make it an offer they can't refuse by adding in Terry and the $10 mill he's still owed.
Offering Teletubby, Bogdanovich and the little Kansas guard that stinks. If TOR can't resist that, they'll make it an offer they can't refuse by adding in Terry and the $10 mill he's still owed.
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pollardsvision
Footballguy
Seems like about the dumbest rumor imaginable, but it's causing Lowry to trend on twitter. If people care more about it than the BeefsParade, then there could be something to it.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Hope this is Prokhorov putting it out there just to #### with Dolan.Seems like about the dumbest rumor imaginable, but it's causing Lowry to trend on twitter. If people care more about it than the BeefsParade, then there could be something to it.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Houston Rocket road uniforms are atrocious. They look like something McDonalds would craft together. Turrrrrrible.
Abraham
Footballguy
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Roy Hibbert @Hoya2aPacer 16m
I looked angry during the game its cause I used flexall/Bengay on my knees under my black tights. Somehow it got on my balls. Burned so bad
I looked angry during the game its cause I used flexall/Bengay on my knees under my black tights. Somehow it got on my balls. Burned so bad
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Asik made no sense at all for Cleveland (for the versatility reasons Varejao provides), but confirmation...
Cleveland is "not interested in acquiring Asik," according to the Akron Beacon Journal.
The Cavs appear hesitant to take on the $14.9 million Asik is owed next year. Trade rumors are swirling involving Asik and Anderson Varejao. However with Andrew Bynum rediscovering his game, at least one league source told the Akron Beacon Journal that the Cavs prefer to keep Varejao for his ability to play both power forward and center. The source also said the Cavs would listen to offers if the Rockets needed a third team involved in a trade to move Asik, but that the Turkish big man wouldn't be heading to Cleveland.
Source: Akron Beacon Journal
As I thought would likely be the case, Asik is gonna be tough to deal. He's a very good defender down low and rebounder, but lacks versatility. He's not a guy that a rebuilding team is looking at & most of the contenders already have solid options in the middle or don't have the assets &/or cap room to swing something.
I think Asik is more valuable to the Rockets (Dwight insurance) than what they're likely getting offered. Unless you're getting a substantial asset, not sure why you'd deal him as a title contender like the Rockets.
Cleveland is "not interested in acquiring Asik," according to the Akron Beacon Journal.
The Cavs appear hesitant to take on the $14.9 million Asik is owed next year. Trade rumors are swirling involving Asik and Anderson Varejao. However with Andrew Bynum rediscovering his game, at least one league source told the Akron Beacon Journal that the Cavs prefer to keep Varejao for his ability to play both power forward and center. The source also said the Cavs would listen to offers if the Rockets needed a third team involved in a trade to move Asik, but that the Turkish big man wouldn't be heading to Cleveland.
Source: Akron Beacon Journal
As I thought would likely be the case, Asik is gonna be tough to deal. He's a very good defender down low and rebounder, but lacks versatility. He's not a guy that a rebuilding team is looking at & most of the contenders already have solid options in the middle or don't have the assets &/or cap room to swing something.
I think Asik is more valuable to the Rockets (Dwight insurance) than what they're likely getting offered. Unless you're getting a substantial asset, not sure why you'd deal him as a title contender like the Rockets.
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Good Posting Judge
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Abraham
Footballguy
Simmons /Lowe made a good point about Lowry and Asik last week: most contenders already have decent point guards and decent centers so dealing these two may be difficult. That said, I have faith in morey getting something of value. My guess at this point is a first round pick a few years out and a deep rotation guy. But just for grins, why not...
Asik to Clippers
Crawford to detrot
Monroe to Houston
Clippers get interior rebounding and d help without dealing Jordan
Detroit gets a perimeter scorer and opens the 4 for smith.
Houston gets a tough 4 to put with Howard.
Asik to Clippers
Crawford to detrot
Monroe to Houston
Clippers get interior rebounding and d help without dealing Jordan
Detroit gets a perimeter scorer and opens the 4 for smith.
Houston gets a tough 4 to put with Howard.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
They make the mistake of saying contenders when they should be using buyers. NY and BKN, for example, are not contenders, but they are buyers. Maybe other teams who are looking to make a push into the 2nd round this season like ATL, WAS (backup PG/SG), CHI, etc. Lowry is going to bring back a bigger haul than Asik and you see the crap offers he's been generating...
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
LOL Monroe for a soon-to-be 34 year old Jamal Crawford. But this is the same franchise that thought a front court of Josh/Monroe/Drummond would work...
And I think Jones is easily a better fit next to Howard than Monroe. The guy allows spacing for Howard to work down low & Harden to drive into the lane. Varejao would be a nice fit as a swing big to backup both PF/C, but getting Asik simply makes zero sense to the Cavs.
And I think Jones is easily a better fit next to Howard than Monroe. The guy allows spacing for Howard to work down low & Harden to drive into the lane. Varejao would be a nice fit as a swing big to backup both PF/C, but getting Asik simply makes zero sense to the Cavs.
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
I think Joe wants to trade Monroe, to smooth out the front court better, but not for Crawford, that makes no sense for a young team.
Then again its Joe D
Then again its Joe D
Abraham
Footballguy
Isn't his contract up? So he's going to get paid by someone and it probably isn't the pistons.
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