*NBA THREAD* Abe will be missed (3 Viewers)

[Bobcat10]

Orlando has agreed to send Arron Afflalo to Denver for Evan Fournier and 56th pick in 2014 Draft, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/482176769303515136

Afflalo is a good player, surprised ORL couldn't do better.

Seriously

That's one I need broken down for me. Don't get it.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Orlando has agreed to send Arron Afflalo to Denver for Evan Fournier and 56th pick in 2014 Draft, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/482176769303515136

Afflalo is a good player, surprised ORL couldn't do better.

Guess that 4, 12 Afflalo trade isn't happening.

 

[Max Power]

Orlando has agreed to send Arron Afflalo to Denver for Evan Fournier and 56th pick in 2014 Draft, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/482176769303515136

Afflalo is a good player, surprised ORL couldn't do better.

I'm shocked thats all they could get for Afflalo. I thought the Bulls were putting out a better offer. At least per the rumors.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Afflalo isn't that good fellas, and he isn't young.

 

[pollardsvision]

Orlando has agreed to send Arron Afflalo to Denver for Evan Fournier and 56th pick in 2014 Draft, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/482176769303515136Afflalo is a good player, surprised ORL couldn't do better.

Seriously

It seems pretty bad on the surface, but we don't know what other options looked like.

The only other teams that I heard about were CHI and CHA. CHI can't really consider that move right now if they are trying to land some bigger FA's.

CHA probably doesn't have an asset they'd be willing to give that's better than Fournier. Some CHA fans were convinced that Afflalo could be had for a 9/12 swap, and I thought they were crazy for thinking that. Apparently, they weren't. Fournier is probably better than moving up from 12 to 9 though.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Afflalo isn't that good fellas, and he isn't young.

Yeah, I had thought he was a good defender but apparently that has slipped. (At least statistically. I didn't watch many Magic games!)

 

[thecatch]

Afflalo isn't that good fellas, and he isn't young.

Yeah, I had thought he was a good defender but apparently that has slipped. (At least statistically. I didn't watch many Magic games!)

He's still a reasonably priced, very good offensive player even if his defense has slipped. He'd start at 2 guard for a lot (most?) of the teams in the league.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Only getting #8 pick for Rondo seems like a bad deal for Boston

 

[Premier]

:X

 

[Premier]

They must really like Fournier. Reminds me of when they traded JJ for Tobias Harris. That was confusing too.

 

[Abraham]

They must really like Fournier. Reminds me of when they traded JJ for Tobias Harris. That was confusing too.

Seems to have worked out okay.

 

[TobiasFunke]

:X

Is it weird that I now view most NBA personnel moves through the prism of this thread? When I saw the Asik move I was happy for Abe, when I saw the Afflalo move I felt bad for you.

 

[Max Power]

They must really like Fournier. Reminds me of when they traded JJ for Tobias Harris. That was confusing too.

This feels like a salary cap / tanking moving. Talent wise, its not in the ballpark. But I have no idea what Orlando's next move is.

 

[Britney Spears]

Not sure how you guys are just carrying on with your draft thoughts and LeBron rumors as if nothing earth-shattering has happened. THE ROCKETS TRADED OMER ASIK!!!!!

Asik trade ideas are our raison d'etre. It's the end of the world as we know it, people.

Can we cool it with the big words? I'm not that smart and just trying to catch up on the news while pooping.

 

[Joe Summer]

Bill Simmons @BillSimmons · 43mAsik's trade definitely opened the door for LeBron/Melo/Howard in Houston. NYK says yes to Melo sign-and-trade for Harden/J Lin/DoMo right?

 

[D'OHtis]

Only getting #8 pick for Rondo seems like a bad deal for Boston

Sounds right. PG deals of recent years have been very similar.

FA end of year & if rebuilding Boston has no designs of re-signing him and paying into his 30's, it makes perfect sense. Boston did go 6-24 with Rondo in its lineup & w/o Love, they aren't going anywhere during Rondo's final year of deal.

 

[Yenrub]

Kobe meeting with Melo. DEVELOPING

Melo, if Kobe invites you to his hotel room, just say no.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Not sure how you guys are just carrying on with your draft thoughts and LeBron rumors as if nothing earth-shattering has happened. THE ROCKETS TRADED OMER ASIK!!!!!

Asik trade ideas are our raison d'etre. It's the end of the world as we know it, people.

Can we cool it with the big words? I'm not that smart and just trying to catch up on the news while pooping.

If it's good enough for Nathan Arizona Sr. it's good enough for me.

 

[Max Power]

Bill Simmons @BillSimmons · 43m

Asik's trade definitely opened the door for LeBron/Melo/Howard in Houston. NYK says yes to Melo sign-and-trade for Harden/J Lin/DoMo right?

It took me three years to get over my dislike of LeBron after the Miami move. I don't think I could ever get over this one...

 

[Insein]

New Hornets court is badass: http://www.nba.com/hornets/gallery/hornets-court-unveiling?CMPID=/et_cid=24485630/et_rid=912222936

The honeycomb is a cool idea.

 

[Abraham]

Even for Lebron, I have a hard time thinking the Rockets would shed a younger Harden to make room for three guys with maybe 3-4 years of prime basketball left.

Nevermind. I don't have a hard time envisioning that at all.

Carry on.

 

[Celph Titled]

Yeesh, I'd rather have Harden than Melo.

Haralabos Voulgaris @haralabob · 12h
Spurs win a title playing beautiful team ball, the rest of the league responds by trying to sign Melo.

 

[Insein]

Philly has more cap room than anybody. Lebron was looking for a team that could handle him and some stars along with having young players. Sixers will have 4 lottery picks on the team after this draft. If hes thinking about legacy whats better than taking one of the biggest markets and NBA historic franchises back to prominence and winning a couple of titles.

Just saying.

 

[pollardsvision]

Philly has more cap room than anybody. Lebron was looking for a team that could handle him and some stars along with having young players. Sixers will have 4 lottery picks on the team after this draft. If hes thinking about legacy whats better than taking one of the biggest markets and NBA historic franchises back to prominence and winning a couple of titles.

Just saying.

Intriguing idea. I think an East team in a large city with a solid foundation and a desperate fanbase makes the most sense, personally. Places like ATL, WAS, or even PHI (obviously I'd love CHA, but I know that'll never happen). Places where LeBron can go to the NBA Finals while still looking like a hero carrying a sadsack franchise. But for some reason, those places just won't do. Apparently, only sports mecca's like MIA, CLE, or HOU will do.

It won't happen, but LeBron and Melo or another star going to PHI would make a lot of sense to me. Especially if Noel can be that elusive cheap rim protector.

 

[Juxtatarot]

LeBron: 89% Heat, 10% Rockets, 1% other.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Philly has more cap room than anybody. Lebron was looking for a team that could handle him and some stars along with having young players. Sixers will have 4 lottery picks on the team after this draft. If hes thinking about legacy whats better than taking one of the biggest markets and NBA historic franchises back to prominence and winning a couple of titles.

Just saying.

Intriguing idea. I think an East team in a large city with a solid foundation and a desperate fanbase makes the most sense, personally. Places like ATL, WAS, or even PHI (obviously I'd love CHA, but I know that'll never happen). Places where LeBron can go to the NBA Finals while still looking like a hero carrying a sadsack franchise. But for some reason, those places just won't do. Apparently, only sports mecca's like MIA, CLE, or HOU will do.

It won't happen, but LeBron and Melo or another star going to PHI would make a lot of sense to me. Especially if Noel can be that elusive cheap rim protector.

Two problems with Philly:

1. Noel and MCW are both basically unknown quantities. MCW basically won the rookie of the year because there was nobody else to do the scoring, no idea how good he'd be on a real team.

2. If he doesn't win any more titles he'll spend the tail end of his peak years getting booed off his home floor and trashed by his hometown newspapers and sports radio.

 

[pollardsvision]

Philly has more cap room than anybody. Lebron was looking for a team that could handle him and some stars along with having young players. Sixers will have 4 lottery picks on the team after this draft. If hes thinking about legacy whats better than taking one of the biggest markets and NBA historic franchises back to prominence and winning a couple of titles.

Just saying.

Intriguing idea. I think an East team in a large city with a solid foundation and a desperate fanbase makes the most sense, personally. Places like ATL, WAS, or even PHI (obviously I'd love CHA, but I know that'll never happen). Places where LeBron can go to the NBA Finals while still looking like a hero carrying a sadsack franchise. But for some reason, those places just won't do. Apparently, only sports mecca's like MIA, CLE, or HOU will do.

It won't happen, but LeBron and Melo or another star going to PHI would make a lot of sense to me. Especially if Noel can be that elusive cheap rim protector.

Two problems with Philly:

1. Noel and MCW are both basically unknown quantities. MCW basically won the rookie of the year because there was nobody else to do the scoring, no idea how good he'd be on a real team.

2. If he doesn't win any more titles he'll spend the tail end of his peak years getting booed off his home floor and trashed by his hometown newspapers and sports radio.

I mostly agree, but for the bolded, I don't think LeBron or any true star should ever sign more than a 1-year contract in their prime, especially towards the tail end of it (or a 2-year with an opt out, so pretty much the same thing).

I think LeBron's about to set a trend this year that future stars will follow down the road. It just makes too much sense.

 

[simmonjm]

Yeesh, I'd rather have Harden than Melo.

Haralabos Voulgaris @haralabob · 12h
Spurs win a title playing beautiful team ball, the rest of the league responds by trying to sign Melo.

I think Melo is a much better fit with Howard and James then Harden would be. Melo doesn't require the ball and actually plays some degree of defense.

 

[Max Power]

✔ @ESPNSteinLine

Potential swap would send John Salmons and No. 59 to Memphis for Tayshaun Prince and No. 22 and put Raptors in range to pick Tyler Ennis

aren't the Raptors already picking at 20? Sounds like a good trade for the Raptors.

 

[modogg]

Philly has more cap room than anybody. Lebron was looking for a team that could handle him and some stars along with having young players. Sixers will have 4 lottery picks on the team after this draft. If hes thinking about legacy whats better than taking one of the biggest markets and NBA historic franchises back to prominence and winning a couple of titles.

Just saying.

Intriguing idea. I think an East team in a large city with a solid foundation and a desperate fanbase makes the most sense, personally. Places like ATL, WAS, or even PHI (obviously I'd love CHA, but I know that'll never happen). Places where LeBron can go to the NBA Finals while still looking like a hero carrying a sadsack franchise. But for some reason, those places just won't do. Apparently, only sports mecca's like MIA, CLE, or HOU will do.

It won't happen, but LeBron and Melo or another star going to PHI would make a lot of sense to me. Especially if Noel can be that elusive cheap rim protector.

Two problems with Philly:

1. Noel and MCW are both basically unknown quantities. MCW basically won the rookie of the year because there was nobody else to do the scoring, no idea how good he'd be on a real team.

2. If he doesn't win any more titles he'll spend the tail end of his peak years getting booed off his home floor and trashed by his hometown newspapers and sports radio.

not exactly. the only thing is I don't think Hinkie would dive right into this. The FA class for next year is pretty sweet too. Sure Noel and MCW are unknown, and there will be 2 additional unknowns tonight as well. but they can sign plenty of other guys even signing Lebron to a max contract because they have almost no bad contracts tied to them. I just don't think it would happen because the Sixers aren't going to grovel over LeBron right now. They are thinking more long-term. If all they needed was one piece to get them over the hump sure, but they are building one of the most solid foundations right now in the league. All built on awesome contracts and with plenty of flexibility

 

[Juxtatarot]

✔ @ESPNSteinLine

Potential swap would send John Salmons and No. 59 to Memphis for Tayshaun Prince and No. 22 and put Raptors in range to pick Tyler Ennis

aren't the Raptors already picking at 20? Sounds like a good trade for the Raptors.

Money. Prince is on the books for $7.7 million while it looks like Salmons can be bought out for $1 million. Prince is no spring chicken.

 

[thecatch]

Yeesh, I'd rather have Harden than Melo.

Haralabos Voulgaris @haralabob · 12h
Spurs win a title playing beautiful team ball, the rest of the league responds by trying to sign Melo.

I think Melo is a much better fit with Howard and James then Harden would be. Melo doesn't require the ball and actually plays some degree of defense.

 

[simmonjm]

✔ @ESPNSteinLine

Potential swap would send John Salmons and No. 59 to Memphis for Tayshaun Prince and No. 22 and put Raptors in range to pick Tyler Ennis

aren't the Raptors already picking at 20? Sounds like a good trade for the Raptors.

Getting rid of Salmons and getting a first round pick in process seems to good to be true.

 

[simmonjm]

Yeesh, I'd rather have Harden than Melo.

Haralabos Voulgaris @haralabob · 12h
Spurs win a title playing beautiful team ball, the rest of the league responds by trying to sign Melo.

I think Melo is a much better fit with Howard and James then Harden would be. Melo doesn't require the ball and actually plays some degree of defense.

You really think Melo requires the ball more than Harden? Melo had no choice but to be primary ball handler with Felton, Amare, Bargnani, etc. Harden was a ball hog that took away touches from Howard. When Melo played with other superstars in the Olympics he flourished and helped ball movement and spacing.

 

[Celph Titled]

✔ @ESPNSteinLine

Potential swap would send John Salmons and No. 59 to Memphis for Tayshaun Prince and No. 22 and put Raptors in range to pick Tyler Ennis

aren't the Raptors already picking at 20? Sounds like a good trade for the Raptors.

Getting rid of Salmons and getting a first round pick in process seems to good to be true.

Salmons only has a team option left, right?

Prince is near-worthless. If you're building to the future, taking his salary on for a year is probably worth getting a lower-first round pick.

 

[Abraham]

? Harden led Shooting Guards in assists and was 15th overall trailing 13 point guards and Lebron.

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[Insein]

Philly has more cap room than anybody. Lebron was looking for a team that could handle him and some stars along with having young players. Sixers will have 4 lottery picks on the team after this draft. If hes thinking about legacy whats better than taking one of the biggest markets and NBA historic franchises back to prominence and winning a couple of titles.

Just saying.

Intriguing idea. I think an East team in a large city with a solid foundation and a desperate fanbase makes the most sense, personally. Places like ATL, WAS, or even PHI (obviously I'd love CHA, but I know that'll never happen). Places where LeBron can go to the NBA Finals while still looking like a hero carrying a sadsack franchise. But for some reason, those places just won't do. Apparently, only sports mecca's like MIA, CLE, or HOU will do.It won't happen, but LeBron and Melo or another star going to PHI would make a lot of sense to me. Especially if Noel can be that elusive cheap rim protector.

Two problems with Philly:

1. Noel and MCW are both basically unknown quantities. MCW basically won the rookie of the year because there was nobody else to do the scoring, no idea how good he'd be on a real team.

2. If he doesn't win any more titles he'll spend the tail end of his peak years getting booed off his home floor and trashed by his hometown newspapers and sports radio.

Yes but if he wins here (which is not out of the realm as we saw him take a nothing Miami team to 4 title runs), he will be this towns greatest hero. Winning cures all here. People here still love Pete Rose and defend him to their graves because he was the mercenary that put them over the top in 1980. If Lebron won a title, it wouldnt matter what he did here.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Philly has more cap room than anybody. Lebron was looking for a team that could handle him and some stars along with having young players. Sixers will have 4 lottery picks on the team after this draft. If hes thinking about legacy whats better than taking one of the biggest markets and NBA historic franchises back to prominence and winning a couple of titles.

Just saying.

Intriguing idea. I think an East team in a large city with a solid foundation and a desperate fanbase makes the most sense, personally. Places like ATL, WAS, or even PHI (obviously I'd love CHA, but I know that'll never happen). Places where LeBron can go to the NBA Finals while still looking like a hero carrying a sadsack franchise. But for some reason, those places just won't do. Apparently, only sports mecca's like MIA, CLE, or HOU will do.

It won't happen, but LeBron and Melo or another star going to PHI would make a lot of sense to me. Especially if Noel can be that elusive cheap rim protector.

Two problems with Philly:

1. Noel and MCW are both basically unknown quantities. MCW basically won the rookie of the year because there was nobody else to do the scoring, no idea how good he'd be on a real team.

2. If he doesn't win any more titles he'll spend the tail end of his peak years getting booed off his home floor and trashed by his hometown newspapers and sports radio.

not exactly. the only thing is I don't think Hinkie would dive right into this. The FA class for next year is pretty sweet too. Sure Noel and MCW are unknown, and there will be 2 additional unknowns tonight as well. but they can sign plenty of other guys even signing Lebron to a max contract because they have almost no bad contracts tied to them. I just don't think it would happen because the Sixers aren't going to grovel over LeBron right now. They are thinking more long-term. If all they needed was one piece to get them over the hump sure, but they are building one of the most solid foundations right now in the league. All built on awesome contracts and with plenty of flexibility

This is all true and to be clear I love the way the Sixers are rebuilding. But the two things I said are both still true and they'd both probably at least somewhat discourage LeBron (or Melo) from Philly if they were considering it.

 

[thecatch]

Yeesh, I'd rather have Harden than Melo.

Haralabos Voulgaris @haralabob · 12h
Spurs win a title playing beautiful team ball, the rest of the league responds by trying to sign Melo.

I think Melo is a much better fit with Howard and James then Harden would be. Melo doesn't require the ball and actually plays some degree of defense.

You really think Melo requires the ball more than Harden? Melo had no choice but to be primary ball handler with Felton, Amare, Bargnani, etc. Harden was a ball hog that took away touches from Howard. When Melo played with other superstars in the Olympics he flourished and helped ball movement and spacing.

I think they are both shoot first players that require the ball in their hands, yes.

 

[Celph Titled]

#######it Abe.

 

[Insein]

Philly has more cap room than anybody. Lebron was looking for a team that could handle him and some stars along with having young players. Sixers will have 4 lottery picks on the team after this draft. If hes thinking about legacy whats better than taking one of the biggest markets and NBA historic franchises back to prominence and winning a couple of titles.

Just saying.

Intriguing idea. I think an East team in a large city with a solid foundation and a desperate fanbase makes the most sense, personally. Places like ATL, WAS, or even PHI (obviously I'd love CHA, but I know that'll never happen). Places where LeBron can go to the NBA Finals while still looking like a hero carrying a sadsack franchise. But for some reason, those places just won't do. Apparently, only sports mecca's like MIA, CLE, or HOU will do.It won't happen, but LeBron and Melo or another star going to PHI would make a lot of sense to me. Especially if Noel can be that elusive cheap rim protector.

Two problems with Philly:

1. Noel and MCW are both basically unknown quantities. MCW basically won the rookie of the year because there was nobody else to do the scoring, no idea how good he'd be on a real team.

2. If he doesn't win any more titles he'll spend the tail end of his peak years getting booed off his home floor and trashed by his hometown newspapers and sports radio.

not exactly. the only thing is I don't think Hinkie would dive right into this. The FA class for next year is pretty sweet too. Sure Noel and MCW are unknown, and there will be 2 additional unknowns tonight as well. but they can sign plenty of other guys even signing Lebron to a max contract because they have almost no bad contracts tied to them. I just don't think it would happen because the Sixers aren't going to grovel over LeBron right now. They are thinking more long-term. If all they needed was one piece to get them over the hump sure, but they are building one of the most solid foundations right now in the league. All built on awesome contracts and with plenty of flexibility

Obviously I love the way Hinkie is doing it but Lebron is the path to titles and building through the draft is no guarantee (OKC, Hou). A million to one shot that I was throwing out there because they have the money and the young nucleus to potentially grow around Lebron and a Star while being cheap for several years.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Philly has more cap room than anybody. Lebron was looking for a team that could handle him and some stars along with having young players. Sixers will have 4 lottery picks on the team after this draft. If hes thinking about legacy whats better than taking one of the biggest markets and NBA historic franchises back to prominence and winning a couple of titles.

Just saying.

Intriguing idea. I think an East team in a large city with a solid foundation and a desperate fanbase makes the most sense, personally. Places like ATL, WAS, or even PHI (obviously I'd love CHA, but I know that'll never happen). Places where LeBron can go to the NBA Finals while still looking like a hero carrying a sadsack franchise. But for some reason, those places just won't do. Apparently, only sports mecca's like MIA, CLE, or HOU will do.

It won't happen, but LeBron and Melo or another star going to PHI would make a lot of sense to me. Especially if Noel can be that elusive cheap rim protector.

Obviously I would love it if it happened. He's a guy who designed his way to playing with Wade and Bosch...he will not come here without help.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Philly has more cap room than anybody. Lebron was looking for a team that could handle him and some stars along with having young players. Sixers will have 4 lottery picks on the team after this draft. If hes thinking about legacy whats better than taking one of the biggest markets and NBA historic franchises back to prominence and winning a couple of titles.

Just saying.

Intriguing idea. I think an East team in a large city with a solid foundation and a desperate fanbase makes the most sense, personally. Places like ATL, WAS, or even PHI (obviously I'd love CHA, but I know that'll never happen). Places where LeBron can go to the NBA Finals while still looking like a hero carrying a sadsack franchise. But for some reason, those places just won't do. Apparently, only sports mecca's like MIA, CLE, or HOU will do.

It won't happen, but LeBron and Melo or another star going to PHI would make a lot of sense to me. Especially if Noel can be that elusive cheap rim protector.

Two problems with Philly:

1. Noel and MCW are both basically unknown quantities. MCW basically won the rookie of the year because there was nobody else to do the scoring, no idea how good he'd be on a real team.

2. If he doesn't win any more titles he'll spend the tail end of his peak years getting booed off his home floor and trashed by his hometown newspapers and sports radio.

Just like Roy Halladay.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Philly has more cap room than anybody. Lebron was looking for a team that could handle him and some stars along with having young players. Sixers will have 4 lottery picks on the team after this draft. If hes thinking about legacy whats better than taking one of the biggest markets and NBA historic franchises back to prominence and winning a couple of titles.

Just saying.

Intriguing idea. I think an East team in a large city with a solid foundation and a desperate fanbase makes the most sense, personally. Places like ATL, WAS, or even PHI (obviously I'd love CHA, but I know that'll never happen). Places where LeBron can go to the NBA Finals while still looking like a hero carrying a sadsack franchise. But for some reason, those places just won't do. Apparently, only sports mecca's like MIA, CLE, or HOU will do.

It won't happen, but LeBron and Melo or another star going to PHI would make a lot of sense to me. Especially if Noel can be that elusive cheap rim protector.

Two problems with Philly:

1. Noel and MCW are both basically unknown quantities. MCW basically won the rookie of the year because there was nobody else to do the scoring, no idea how good he'd be on a real team.

2. If he doesn't win any more titles he'll spend the tail end of his peak years getting booed off his home floor and trashed by his hometown newspapers and sports radio.

Just like Roy Halladay.

You think Halladay gets a graceful sendoff if the Phils hadn't won the 2008 title?

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Philly has more cap room than anybody. Lebron was looking for a team that could handle him and some stars along with having young players. Sixers will have 4 lottery picks on the team after this draft. If hes thinking about legacy whats better than taking one of the biggest markets and NBA historic franchises back to prominence and winning a couple of titles.

Just saying.

Intriguing idea. I think an East team in a large city with a solid foundation and a desperate fanbase makes the most sense, personally. Places like ATL, WAS, or even PHI (obviously I'd love CHA, but I know that'll never happen). Places where LeBron can go to the NBA Finals while still looking like a hero carrying a sadsack franchise. But for some reason, those places just won't do. Apparently, only sports mecca's like MIA, CLE, or HOU will do.

It won't happen, but LeBron and Melo or another star going to PHI would make a lot of sense to me. Especially if Noel can be that elusive cheap rim protector.

Two problems with Philly:

1. Noel and MCW are both basically unknown quantities. MCW basically won the rookie of the year because there was nobody else to do the scoring, no idea how good he'd be on a real team.

2. If he doesn't win any more titles he'll spend the tail end of his peak years getting booed off his home floor and trashed by his hometown newspapers and sports radio.

Just like Roy Halladay.

You think Halladay gets a graceful sendoff if the Phils hadn't won the 2008 title?

Yes, Halladay was beloved.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

I think Bill Simmons just burned up 80k words to illustrate the point that the NBA draft is a very inexact science.

That was insane.

edit to add: My favorite part of the article is where he uses his math skills to figure out that you have a 60% chance of getting a top 3 player in the draft outside the top 3 picks. He needs an editor.

Just skimming this:

Superduperstars: Duncan (1), LeBron (1), Kobe (13)

All-Timers: Iverson (1), Howard (1), Durant (2), Garnett (5), Wade (5), Nowitzki (9), Nash (15)

Franchise Guys: Griffin (1), A. Davis (1), D. Rose (1), Carmelo (3), C. Paul (4), Westbrook (4), Harden (3), R. Allen (5), Love (5), Curry (7), McGrady (9), P. George (10), Pierce (10)

Good luck finding a pattern: seven of 23 were picked first, nine of 23 were picked 2-through-5, and seven of 23 were picked 6-through-16. Durant and Carmelo were the only sure things.

There kind of is a pattern, honestly.

What was he expecting to find? That this research was going to lead to a sudden breakthrough that it is always the number 4 pick that produces a hall-of-famer?

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Bob Cooney: According to league source, Sixers in full court press with Cleveland to get No. 1 pick. "They really, really, really want Wiggins." @BobCooney76 -

I just don't see what they have that the Cavs would want. MCW doesn't fit, no interest in Young, Noel hasn't been on an NBA court yet. Bunch of picks? Doesn't help them get better now. Exum not really a fit unless they plan to roll the dice on Embiid at 3 or trade Kyrie, neither of which help them get better now either.

 

[RUSF18]

I think Bill Simmons just burned up 80k words to illustrate the point that the NBA draft is a very inexact science.

That was insane.

edit to add: My favorite part of the article is where he uses his math skills to figure out that you have a 60% chance of getting a top 3 player in the draft outside the top 3 picks. He needs an editor.

Just skimming this:

Superduperstars: Duncan (1), LeBron (1), Kobe (13)

All-Timers: Iverson (1), Howard (1), Durant (2), Garnett (5), Wade (5), Nowitzki (9), Nash (15)

Franchise Guys: Griffin (1), A. Davis (1), D. Rose (1), Carmelo (3), C. Paul (4), Westbrook (4), Harden (3), R. Allen (5), Love (5), Curry (7), McGrady (9), P. George (10), Pierce (10)

Good luck finding a pattern: seven of 23 were picked first, nine of 23 were picked 2-through-5, and seven of 23 were picked 6-through-16. Durant and Carmelo were the only sure things.

There kind of is a pattern, honestly.

What was he expecting to find? That this research was going to lead to a sudden breakthrough that it is always the number 4 pick that produces a hall-of-famer?

With his analytical ability, yeah, probably.

 

[Kev4029]

Orlando has agreed to send Arron Afflalo to Denver for Evan Fournier and 56th pick in 2014 Draft, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/482176769303515136

Afflalo is a good player, surprised ORL couldn't do better.

I'm shocked thats all they could get for Afflalo. I thought the Bulls were putting out a better offer. At least per the rumors.

Fournier has been underutilized with the Nuggets. We may look back on this three or four years from now and think that Orlando raped the Nuggets.

The Nuggets seem very intent on chasing the 8 seed this season. Weeeeeee!

 

[Kev4029]

? Harden led Shooting Guards in assists and was 15th overall trailing 13 point guards and Lebron.

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God dammit Abe. Do you just miss Hipple so you're ####### up formatting in remembrance?