*NBA THREAD* Abe will be missed (6 Viewers)

[Max Power]

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Houston (#25) & Phoenix (#27) have both made their picks available in exchange for future firsts, sources say. Likely go int'l otherwise.

 

[modogg]

Bob Cooney: According to league source, Sixers in full court press with Cleveland to get No. 1 pick. "They really, really, really want Wiggins." @BobCooney76 -

I just don't see what they have that the Cavs would want. MCW doesn't fit, no interest in Young, Noel hasn't been on an NBA court yet. Bunch of picks? Doesn't help them get better now. Exum not really a fit unless they plan to roll the dice on Embiid at 3 or trade Kyrie, neither of which help them get better now either.

I really hope the disfunctionality of Cle doesn't screw up the Sixers here too. Cle would be dopey to not take the trade offer if it includes 3 and 10, and I am sure Hinkie has thrown in some more too. I am fine with them screwing up their own franchise, but don't mess up the Sixers and poor Wiggins life with their mess. Take the deal and be happy you got a great deal from the Sixers.

As a Sixers fan I am worried about that. No guarantee at all with Wiggins, but I am ok trusting in Hinkie if he feels that he is worth giving up this much. Cle makes out like bandits getting Exum or Embid and a really, really good player at 10 who can contribute immediately.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

"Hey Griff, Modogg and Abe from the internet says you probably hasn't scouted no players so just trade #1 to Philly for 4 of their 2nd rounders cuz they noes what they be doin'. K thx."

 

[Gr00vus]

Cleveland plays for 1 championship and then tries to convince people to stay:

Cavs convince James to sign with them for 1 year (more if possible).

Cavs deal #1, Waiters, Jack, Bennett to Minny. I think Waiters has to go to make cap space work.

Cavs get Love, Pekovic. Deal with convincing Love to stay next year, or use his approximately $16M to sign more talent next year.

Fill in with some championship hungry veteran cheapos.

There are other variations to play with too around not taking Pekovic and looking elsewhere for help up front (Pau, Gortat, Varejao, maybe Bosh opts out and comes with if willing to take $12M, etc.).

Could that team come together to win Cleveland its first major title in a very long time in one season?

What's the most unrealistic part of that?

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Cleveland plays for 1 championship and then tries to convince people to stay:

Cavs convince James to sign with them for 1 year (more if possible).

Cavs deal #1, Waiters, Jack, Bennett to Minny. I think Waiters has to go to make cap space work.

Cavs get Love, Pekovic. Deal with convincing Love to stay next year, or use his approximately $16M to sign more talent next year.

Fill in with some championship hungry veteran cheapos.

There are other variations to play with too around not taking Pekovic and looking elsewhere for help up front (Pau, Gortat, etc.).

Could that team come together to win Cleveland its first major title in a very long time in one season?

What's the most unrealistic part of that?

Step 1.

 

[Max Power]

Bob Cooney: According to league source, Sixers in full court press with Cleveland to get No. 1 pick. "They really, really, really want Wiggins." @BobCooney76 -

I just don't see what they have that the Cavs would want. MCW doesn't fit, no interest in Young, Noel hasn't been on an NBA court yet. Bunch of picks? Doesn't help them get better now. Exum not really a fit unless they plan to roll the dice on Embiid at 3 or trade Kyrie, neither of which help them get better now either.

Bring in the Bulls

Cavs get - Gibson, #4, and #16

76ers get - #1

Bulls get - #10

 

[Gr00vus]

Cleveland plays for 1 championship and then tries to convince people to stay:

Cavs convince James to sign with them for 1 year (more if possible).

Cavs deal #1, Waiters, Jack, Bennett to Minny. I think Waiters has to go to make cap space work.

Cavs get Love, Pekovic. Deal with convincing Love to stay next year, or use his approximately $16M to sign more talent next year.

Fill in with some championship hungry veteran cheapos.

There are other variations to play with too around not taking Pekovic and looking elsewhere for help up front (Pau, Gortat, etc.).

Could that team come together to win Cleveland its first major title in a very long time in one season?

What's the most unrealistic part of that?

Step 1.

That's what I figure. If it weren't for how things went down 4 years ago with Gilbert, I'd like to think the Cavs call up James and let him name his price - who to take with #1, or who to deal it for - and see if he bites. Can they even have discussions like that at this point or can that only happen later?

Anyway, suppose that could happen - would you want it to? Potentially risk the future for a really good shot at one championship?

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Bob Cooney: According to league source, Sixers in full court press with Cleveland to get No. 1 pick. "They really, really, really want Wiggins." @BobCooney76 -

I just don't see what they have that the Cavs would want. MCW doesn't fit, no interest in Young, Noel hasn't been on an NBA court yet. Bunch of picks? Doesn't help them get better now. Exum not really a fit unless they plan to roll the dice on Embiid at 3 or trade Kyrie, neither of which help them get better now either.

I really hope the disfunctionality of Cle doesn't screw up the Sixers here too. Cle would be dopey to not take the trade offer if it includes 3 and 10, and I am sure Hinkie has thrown in some more too. I am fine with them screwing up their own franchise, but don't mess up the Sixers and poor Wiggins life with their mess. Take the deal and be happy you got a great deal from the Sixers.

As a Sixers fan I am worried about that. No guarantee at all with Wiggins, but I am ok trusting in Hinkie if he feels that he is worth giving up this much. Cle makes out like bandits getting Exum or Embid and a really, really good player at 10 who can contribute immediately.

Sixers looking at having 40 million free in 2015.

Rondo

B Lopez

M Gasol

K Love

G Dragic

L Aldridge

R Gay

Duncan/Parker/Ginobli/Bellineli

That's a huge part of what will entice some teams when talking trades.

And reports are that Cleveland does have interest in TYoung at SF in those trade talks.

 

[Max Power]

Fake Mock Draft nails the Lakers pick.

https://twitter.com/JADubin5/status/481975161797607425/photo/1

 

[modogg]

I don't know why people think Lebron wants to go to Cle. It isn't like Kobe has always wanted to come to Philly because he grew up in the area. Is there any other NBA player who has this clinging to their home city that they always want to play there? I would think LeBron would put money and the chance to win a title over wanting to be close to his old home. Just a weird thing I have never been able to figure out with Cle fans. Is it because LeBron started there?

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Report says Lebron is very interested in the Knicks

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[iwabaf]

Cleveland plays for 1 championship and then tries to convince people to stay:

Cavs convince James to sign with them for 1 year (more if possible).

Cavs deal #1, Waiters, Jack, Bennett to Minny. I think Waiters has to go to make cap space work.

Cavs get Love, Pekovic. Deal with convincing Love to stay next year, or use his approximately $16M to sign more talent next year.

Fill in with some championship hungry veteran cheapos.

There are other variations to play with too around not taking Pekovic and looking elsewhere for help up front (Pau, Gortat, Varejao, maybe Bosh opts out and comes with if willing to take $12M, etc.).

Could that team come together to win Cleveland its first major title in a very long time in one season?

What's the most unrealistic part of that?

I pretty sure Minnesota would get more than #1 and trash for Love/Pekovic

 

[pollardsvision]

Fake Mock Draft nails the Lakers pick.

https://twitter.com/JADubin5/status/481975161797607425/photo/1

That's awesome.

Even this guy's mocking mock draft puts ####### McD in CHA (only one of two actual named players).

All these idiots mocking just think, "well ####, no smart team wants McD, but he's a Top 5 NCAA scorer so he'll go in the lottery, of course Charlotte's dumb enough to do it"

Nobody cares enough about CHA to think of the mental turmoil they are putting the fans through with this kind of talk.

Of course, they are all probably right. They probably will take ####### McDermott.

 

[pollardsvision]

Cleveland plays for 1 championship and then tries to convince people to stay:

Cavs convince James to sign with them for 1 year (more if possible).

Cavs deal #1, Waiters, Jack, Bennett to Minny. I think Waiters has to go to make cap space work.

Cavs get Love, Pekovic. Deal with convincing Love to stay next year, or use his approximately $16M to sign more talent next year.

Fill in with some championship hungry veteran cheapos.

There are other variations to play with too around not taking Pekovic and looking elsewhere for help up front (Pau, Gortat, Varejao, maybe Bosh opts out and comes with if willing to take $12M, etc.).

Could that team come together to win Cleveland its first major title in a very long time in one season?

What's the most unrealistic part of that?

I pretty sure Minnesota would get more than #1 and trash for Love/Pekovic

MIN isn't getting a Top 5 pick for Love. Pek is a nice player, but with that contract he essentially adds nothing to a trade.

CLE might indeed panic and do it, but without some strong agreement that LeBron will sign there for a couple of years if they do it, it's idiotic.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Cleveland plays for 1 championship and then tries to convince people to stay:

Cavs convince James to sign with them for 1 year (more if possible).

Cavs deal #1, Waiters, Jack, Bennett to Minny. I think Waiters has to go to make cap space work.

Cavs get Love, Pekovic. Deal with convincing Love to stay next year, or use his approximately $16M to sign more talent next year.

Fill in with some championship hungry veteran cheapos.

There are other variations to play with too around not taking Pekovic and looking elsewhere for help up front (Pau, Gortat, etc.).

Could that team come together to win Cleveland its first major title in a very long time in one season?

What's the most unrealistic part of that?

Step 1.

That's what I figure. If it weren't for how things went down 4 years ago with Gilbert, I'd like to think the Cavs call up James and let him name his price - who to take with #1, or who to deal it for - and see if he bites. Can they even have discussions like that at this point or can that only happen later?

Anyway, suppose that could happen - would you want it to? Potentially risk the future for a really good shot at one championship?

I don't think it's The Letter keeping him away so much as their current roster. So step 2/3 would have to happen first. But yes I would take a 1 year shot at it.

 

[Celph Titled]

It's like there are 10 abes in here now.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Cleveland plays for 1 championship and then tries to convince people to stay:

Cavs convince James to sign with them for 1 year (more if possible).

Cavs deal #1, Waiters, Jack, Bennett to Minny. I think Waiters has to go to make cap space work.

Cavs get Love, Pekovic. Deal with convincing Love to stay next year, or use his approximately $16M to sign more talent next year.

Fill in with some championship hungry veteran cheapos.

There are other variations to play with too around not taking Pekovic and looking elsewhere for help up front (Pau, Gortat, Varejao, maybe Bosh opts out and comes with if willing to take $12M, etc.).

Could that team come together to win Cleveland its first major title in a very long time in one season?

What's the most unrealistic part of that?

I pretty sure Minnesota would get more than #1 and trash for Love/Pekovic

MIN isn't getting a Top 5 pick for Love. Pek is a nice player, but with that contract he essentially adds nothing to a trade.

CLE might indeed panic and do it, but without some strong agreement that LeBron will sign there for a couple of years if they do it, it's idiotic.

You think if he came back he would leave again after 1 year?

 

[Captain Quinoa]

It's like there are 10 abes in here now.

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[pollardsvision]

Cleveland plays for 1 championship and then tries to convince people to stay:

Cavs convince James to sign with them for 1 year (more if possible).

Cavs deal #1, Waiters, Jack, Bennett to Minny. I think Waiters has to go to make cap space work.

Cavs get Love, Pekovic. Deal with convincing Love to stay next year, or use his approximately $16M to sign more talent next year.

Fill in with some championship hungry veteran cheapos.

There are other variations to play with too around not taking Pekovic and looking elsewhere for help up front (Pau, Gortat, Varejao, maybe Bosh opts out and comes with if willing to take $12M, etc.).

Could that team come together to win Cleveland its first major title in a very long time in one season?

What's the most unrealistic part of that?

I pretty sure Minnesota would get more than #1 and trash for Love/Pekovic

MIN isn't getting a Top 5 pick for Love. Pek is a nice player, but with that contract he essentially adds nothing to a trade.

CLE might indeed panic and do it, but without some strong agreement that LeBron will sign there for a couple of years if they do it, it's idiotic.

You think if he came back he would leave again after 1 year?

LeBron and Love need a place to warm up and get used to playing together for a year waiting on the Knicks to have cap space.

 

[Abraham]

ETA_ WHJAT IS HAPPENING TO ME?

 

[TobiasFunke]

I don't know why people think Lebron wants to go to Cle. It isn't like Kobe has always wanted to come to Philly because he grew up in the area. Is there any other NBA player who has this clinging to their home city that they always want to play there? I would think LeBron would put money and the chance to win a title over wanting to be close to his old home. Just a weird thing I have never been able to figure out with Cle fans. Is it because LeBron started there?

LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU ALL NBA SUPERSTARS WANT TO RETURN TO THEIR HOMETOWNS #KDTODC

Seriously though, you're probably right. Overblown motivation, especially since Akron isn't really that close to Cleveland (and IIRC there was some stuff about how Akron people resent Cleveland back in 2010)

 

[ffldrew]

Orlando has agreed to send Arron Afflalo to Denver for Evan Fournier and 56th pick in 2014 Draft, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/482176769303515136

Afflalo is a good player, surprised ORL couldn't do better.

I'm shocked thats all they could get for Afflalo. I thought the Bulls were putting out a better offer. At least per the rumors.

Fournier has been underutilized with the Nuggets. We may look back on this three or four years from now and think that Orlando raped the Nuggets.

The Nuggets seem very intent on chasing the 8 seed this season. Weeeeeee!

I'm for anything that might be better than watching Randy Foye chuck it up

 

[Kev4029]

Orlando has agreed to send Arron Afflalo to Denver for Evan Fournier and 56th pick in 2014 Draft, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/482176769303515136Afflalo is a good player, surprised ORL couldn't do better.

I'm shocked thats all they could get for Afflalo. I thought the Bulls were putting out a better offer. At least per the rumors.

Fournier has been underutilized with the Nuggets. We may look back on this three or four years from now and think that Orlando raped the Nuggets.

The Nuggets seem very intent on chasing the 8 seed this season. Weeeeeee!

I'm for anything that might be better than watching Randy Foye chuck it up

Foye will be a nice 3rd or 4th guard, but he definitely is out of his element as a starter.

 

[Bobcat10]

Cavs just need to take Wiggins and be done with the nonsense. If Lebron wants to come back they have enticing trade pieces to get it done. If not, they have Wiggins.

Or Parker, who I liked until the recent rumors. So they'll take Parker.

 

[Gr00vus]

Cavs just need to take Wiggins and be done with the nonsense. If Lebron wants to come back they have enticing trade pieces to get it done. If not, they have Wiggins.

Or Parker, who I liked until the recent rumors. So they'll take Parker.

That's my feeling as well.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Can James Young play the 2 or is he a 3?

 

[Cliff Clavin]

✔ @ESPNSteinLine

Potential swap would send John Salmons and No. 59 to Memphis for Tayshaun Prince and No. 22 and put Raptors in range to pick Tyler Ennis

aren't the Raptors already picking at 20? Sounds like a good trade for the Raptors.

Getting rid of Salmons and getting a first round pick in process seems to good to be true.

Salmons has a $1M buyout. Toronto is essentially buying the pick for $6M and getting Prince to keep the bench warm.Toronto wants Ennis and Capela who both look to be going around those spots.

 

[Abraham]

Can James Young play the 2 or is he a 3?

He's a three.

 

[the moops]

Howard Beck ✔ @HowardBeck
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Rival exec tells me Rockets already have a Jeremy Lin deal lined up and ready to execute if they need the cap room to sign Melo or LBJ.

 

[the moops]

Celtics are the only non western conference team with a TPE big enough to take on Lin's contract.

 

[Max Power]

Celtics are the only non western conference team with a TPE big enough to take on Lin's contract.

Feels like an Orlando move to me. What team has an agreement in place on draft night and is willing to wait it out until Houston feels like pulling the trigger? There must be something real good attached to Lin.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Can James Young play the 2 or is he a 3?

He's a three.

No shot at a 2?

 

[Slapdash]

Fake Mock Draft nails the Lakers pick.

https://twitter.com/JADubin5/status/481975161797607425/photo/1

That's awesome.

Even this guy's mocking mock draft puts ####### McD in CHA (only one of two actual named players).

All these idiots mocking just think, "well ####, no smart team wants McD, but he's a Top 5 NCAA scorer so he'll go in the lottery, of course Charlotte's dumb enough to do it"

Nobody cares enough about CHA to think of the mental turmoil they are putting the fans through with this kind of talk.

Of course, they are all probably right. They probably will take ####### McDermott.

How much should I riot if they take McBuckets?

 

[Abraham]

Can James Young play the 2 or is he a 3?

He's a three.

No shot at a 2?

He doesn't have the handles (yet) and his shooting is streaky. Plus he's 6'7. Many teams have fairly interchangeable wing positions so I guess it's not impossible that he'd be a 2 for someone for brief stints, but he won't fit next to a natural small forward for long.

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[Max Power]

Fake Mock Draft nails the Lakers pick.

https://twitter.com/JADubin5/status/481975161797607425/photo/1

That's awesome.

Even this guy's mocking mock draft puts ####### McD in CHA (only one of two actual named players).

All these idiots mocking just think, "well ####, no smart team wants McD, but he's a Top 5 NCAA scorer so he'll go in the lottery, of course Charlotte's dumb enough to do it"

Nobody cares enough about CHA to think of the mental turmoil they are putting the fans through with this kind of talk.

Of course, they are all probably right. They probably will take ####### McDermott.

How much should I riot if they take McBuckets?

I bet McBuckets is the kid who slides tonight. Bulls would be happy if he is there at 16.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

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[Kev4029]

Celtics are the only non western conference team with a TPE big enough to take on Lin's contract.

There are a lot of teams with $8M in cap space. Somebody like Milwaukee or Charlotte could take Lin, a first, and whatever money Houston has left over to include in a trade, and actually use Lin.

 

[Spanky24]

Fake Mock Draft nails the Lakers pick.

https://twitter.com/JADubin5/status/481975161797607425/photo/1

That's awesome.

Even this guy's mocking mock draft puts ####### McD in CHA (only one of two actual named players).

All these idiots mocking just think, "well ####, no smart team wants McD, but he's a Top 5 NCAA scorer so he'll go in the lottery, of course Charlotte's dumb enough to do it"

Nobody cares enough about CHA to think of the mental turmoil they are putting the fans through with this kind of talk.

Of course, they are all probably right. They probably will take ####### McDermott.

How much should I riot if they take McBuckets?

I bet McBuckets is the kid who slides tonight. Bulls would be happy if he is there at 16.

Teams will regret it if this happens, Doug can ball.

 

[Premier]

I still don't understand how the Rockets can trade all their ####ty players for first round picks and Afflalo goes for like the last pick in round 2.

 

[bosoxs45]

I hope some NBA team takes a chance on Sim Bhullar.

 

[Kev4029]

I still don't understand how the Rockets can trade all their ####ty players for first round picks and Afflalo goes for like the last pick in round 2.

The Magic should be especially embarassed that the Nuggets' ####ty front office schooled them.

 

[Abraham]

I still don't understand how the Rockets can trade all their ####ty players for first round picks and Afflalo goes for like the last pick in round 2.

 

[Premier]

I still don't understand how the Rockets can trade all their ####ty players for first round picks and Afflalo goes for like the last pick in round 2.

The Magic should be especially embarassed that the Nuggets' ####ty front office schooled them.

Not only that but we couldn't swap the 11th and 12th picks?

Some local analysts think they really like the dude they got in the trade, but still odd. Wow.

 

[Abraham]

Any thoughts on guys like Adrian Payne or Garry Harris? What NBA projection do they have?

Payne may be a rotation guy but isn't athletic enough to be a star. Patrick Patterson.

Harris is a solid guy that I think is probably being overlooked a little (an opinion growing in popularity). He does a lot of things pretty well and if he develops a reliable 3 then he could be one of the better players in the draft.

 

[Kev4029]

I still don't understand how the Rockets can trade all their ####ty players for first round picks and Afflalo goes for like the last pick in round 2.

The Magic should be especially embarassed that the Nuggets' ####ty front office schooled them.

Not only that but we couldn't swap the 11th and 12th picks?

Some local analysts think they really like the dude they got in the trade, but still odd. Wow.

I think there is a possibility that Fournier is the real deal. Right now hes the homeless man's version of Ginobili or Harden, but he has a very similar game. He has a nice stroke and can really handle the ball and get to the hoop. He needs to add a little weight and create some kind of mid range game, but I think his floor for the Magic is an 8th man and has a small chance of becoming a nice ball dominant shooting guard who could make a couple all star games in the future. I really like Fournier and wish Shaw would have played him 30 mpg last year and let him be the backup PG once Robinson went out and Miller was kicked off the team. I meant what I said earlier today, I think we could look back on this trade in a couple years and see a fleecing for the Magic.

 

[Premier]

Ford reports that the Charlotte Hornets offered Gerald Henderson and the 24th overall pick in Thursday's Draft for Afflalo.

The report that Orlando declined an Afflalo offer which would have netted them a better player and a better Draft pick than what they ultimately received for their leading scorer will certainly rankle some Magic fans. But if anything, this news underscores what Orlando Pinstriped Post wrote earlier regarding what the Magic value: flexibility.

Magic must be ready to take on somebody's deal.

 

[Abraham]

Lin to Magic I imagine.

 

[Premier]

Lin to Magic I imagine.

Right but for what?

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Can't help but think the Suns could be major players this summer in free agency. ($37 mil available; almost 7 mil more than the next team & not a bad contract on the roster)

The little contracts they have are with guys that can play & produce (Dragic, Morris Bros., G.Green, Plumlee, Archie Goodwin) and/or can easily be dealt (Alex Len) & hold the cards on Bledsoe. Not to mention they've got 2 picks in the Top 18 this year.

And that Magic deal is all about getting cap space. Ballsy move but they've got to have something up their sleeve.

 

[Kev4029]

Lin to Magic I imagine.

Right but for what?

Lin and the pick they just received for a protected 2nd rounder.