*NBA THREAD* Abe will be missed (4 Viewers)

[scoobus]

So Phoenix just traded away 3 PGs? Solid roster construction there.

The Isaiah Thomas signing really turned out great for them. Pissed off Dragic so they had to practically give him away, and then they trade Thomas + a pick for a comparable player in Knight.

I remember when they drafted Ennis saying "wtf are they doing?!"

 

[thecatch]

Isaiah Thomas + Suns' owned Lakers pick for Brandon Knight (and having to pay a new contract) does seem a bit extreme (if that's what happens). That Laker pick is only Top 3 protected next year.

I really wonder how Bledsoe and Knight will fit personally.

As I understood it from the Suns' perspective, it's:Thomas

Ennis

Plumlee

Lakers pick

for

Marcus Thornton

Brandon Knight

Cavs 2016 pick

So, a trade down in the first, essentially.

Sounds like there are potentially a lot more moving pieces in the Heat deal, though, too.

A trade WAY down in the first.

 

[MikeMan]

Final count on number of guys that just got traded is going to be epic.

I have 27 confirmed so far.

(I'm including a few not today: like Mo Williams, Payne, and Amare)

 

[Cliff Clavin]

So winners and losers?

I think Phoenix and OKC, and the Bucks won.

Short term: Miami! Dragic feeding Wade, Bosh, Whiteside. I say they are a contender in the weak East.

They will certainly contend for the 7/8 seed and be eliminated in the first round.

 

[msudaisy26]

I don't think Dragic stays in Miami, and I don't think it puts them in contention in the East. They aren't beating the Hawks, Cavs or Bulls

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Hinkie is Beane-esque.

 

[Sammy3469]

Hinkie is Beane-esque.

Except Beane's teams occasionally make the playoffs

 

[rodg12]

Suns with the rare double 3-way today.

Check that. Forgot about Boston and Thornton getting into the Thomas deal. 3-way and 4-way.

 

[Juxtatarot]

PG is such a deep position. I strongly doubt MCW will ever be an above average starting PG.

 

[thecatch]

So winners and losers?

I think Phoenix and OKC, and the Bucks won.

Short term: Miami! Dragic feeding Wade, Bosh, Whiteside. I say they are a contender in the weak East.

They will certainly contend for the 7/8 seed and be eliminated in the first round.

On a slightly related note, the East is on pace to send two 35 win teams to the playoffs #endconferences

 

[Eephus]

PG is such a deep position. I strongly doubt MCW will ever be an above average starting PG.

Jason Kidd must see something in him that he doesn't in Brandon Knight.

 

[rodg12]

Why did Abe have to choose this trade deadline to go on hiatus? :(

 

[Sammy3469]

PG is such a deep position. I strongly doubt MCW will ever be an above average starting PG.

Jason Kidd must see something in him that he doesn't in Brandon Knight.

Kidd, MCW, and Ennis all have the same agent

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Isaiah Thomas + Suns' owned Lakers pick for Brandon Knight (and having to pay a new contract) does seem a bit extreme (if that's what happens). That Laker pick is only Top 3 protected next year.

I really wonder how Bledsoe and Knight will fit personally.

As I understood it from the Suns' perspective, it's:Thomas

Ennis

Plumlee

Lakers pick

for

Marcus Thornton

Brandon Knight

Cavs 2016 pick

So, a trade down in the first, essentially.

Sounds like there are potentially a lot more moving pieces in the Heat deal, though, too.

A trade WAY down in the first.

It would seem that way. It's hard to be definitive about it when we only know 4 players likely to be on their roster next year.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Knicks involved with the McDainels/Houston trade. Houstons and Sixers may have hit the jackpot.

 

[Lehigh98]

Philadelphia 76ers: We may suck but at least we're not boring.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Hinkie is Beane-esque.

Except Beane's teams occasionally make the playoffs

His plan, bad or good, is obviously a long-term one. Maybe the Cubs are a better baseball comp? But judging it now seems silly.

 

[Capella]

God I bet Simmons just orgasmed

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Repost/fuel on the fire: http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12318808/the-philadelphia-76ers-radical-guide-winning

 

[Sammy3469]

Hinkie is Beane-esque.

Except Beane's teams occasionally make the playoffs

His plan, bad or good, is obviously a long-term one. Maybe the Cubs are a better baseball comp? But judging it now seems silly.

I don't know about that...they're a good 2 years (probably 3) from even sniffing the playoffs now.

 

[Lehigh98]

All this lottery protection stuff drives me nuts.

How did this get started in the NBA?

Are they the only ones that do it?

 

[TobiasFunke]

So winners and losers?

I think Phoenix and OKC, and the Bucks won.

Short term: Miami! Dragic feeding Wade, Bosh, Whiteside. I say they are a contender in the weak East.

No chance. They might win a playoff round if they find their way to the 7 seed and the Raptors hold off the Cavs for the 2 seed and they stay healthy and Whiteside doesn't regress badly and the Raptor guards are cold during the series. But that's a lot of ifs, and that's just to get out of the first round. Atlanta would shred them. Think of what San Antonio did to Miami last season because their style was so well-suited to score on the Heat. This Atlanta team plays exactly like that, and whatever talent differential there might be between 2014 SAS and 2015 ATL is more than neutralized by the one between LeBron James and Goran Dragic.

 

[rodg12]

All this lottery protection stuff drives me nuts.

How did this get started in the NBA?

Are they the only ones that do it?

Well, they're the only ones who have a lottery, so yeah.

 

[menobrown]

All this lottery protection stuff drives me nuts.

How did this get started in the NBA?

Are they the only ones that do it?

Not get off track but I'd love to have this feature in dynasty leagues

 

[Sammy3469]

OKC also gets Augustin...they're probably the big winner

 

[Card Trader]

Suns got a total of 3 first round picks in return as I understand it, 2 from Miami and 1 from Cleveland and they gave up their Laker pick.

 

[General Malaise]

I have never even heard of many of these players.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Hinkie is Beane-esque.

Except Beane's teams occasionally make the playoffs

His plan, bad or good, is obviously a long-term one. Maybe the Cubs are a better baseball comp? But judging it now seems silly.

He supposedly asked for a nine-year contract when he was hired. While overall I trust in him, I do think that there is an actual possibility that he is doing all of this in an effort to absolve himself of responsibility for as long as humanly possible and keep his job without having any need to win.

 

[rodg12]

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Is my brother still on the Sixers?!?!

 

[Eephus]

PG is such a deep position. I strongly doubt MCW will ever be an above average starting PG.

Jason Kidd must see something in him that he doesn't in Brandon Knight.

Kidd, MCW, and Ennis all have the same agent

well, there's that

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Hinkie is Beane-esque.

Except Beane's teams occasionally make the playoffs

His plan, bad or good, is obviously a long-term one. Maybe the Cubs are a better baseball comp? But judging it now seems silly.

He supposedly asked for a nine-year contract when he was hired. While overall I trust in him, I do think that there is an actual possibility that he is doing all of this in an effort to absolve himself of responsibility for as long as humanly possible and keep his job without having any need to win.

That seems like lunacy. Eventually management is going to need him to get Philly competitive.

 

[B-Deep]

I have never even heard of many of these players.

it is almost like reading the soccer page at this point

 

[Eephus]

Hinkie is Beane-esque.

Except Beane's teams occasionally make the playoffs

His plan, bad or good, is obviously a long-term one. Maybe the Cubs are a better baseball comp? But judging it now seems silly.

He supposedly asked for a nine-year contract when he was hired. While overall I trust in him, I do think that there is an actual possibility that he is doing all of this in an effort to absolve himself of responsibility for as long as humanly possible and keep his job without having any need to win.

The long con

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Can anyone tell me what the 6ers actually got for MCW?

 

[Bucky86]

Lakers...

 

[TobiasFunke]

Hinkie is Beane-esque.

Except Beane's teams occasionally make the playoffs

His plan, bad or good, is obviously a long-term one. Maybe the Cubs are a better baseball comp? But judging it now seems silly.

He supposedly asked for a nine-year contract when he was hired. While overall I trust in him, I do think that there is an actual possibility that he is doing all of this in an effort to absolve himself of responsibility for as long as humanly possible and keep his job without having any need to win.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Thunder did really well for themselves.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Can anyone tell me what the 6ers actually got for MCW?

A high draft pick (year TBA) that belongs to LA.

 

[Spartans Rule]

So winners and losers?

I think Phoenix and OKC, and the Bucks won.

Short term: Miami! Dragic feeding Wade, Bosh, Whiteside. I say they are a contender in the weak East.

They look good on paper, but health concerns and lack of chemistry probably keep them from being a serious threat.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

joe м ‏@dr_pizza_MD 4m4 minutes ago
GM: how about a 2nd round pick

HINKIE: [●_●]

GM: ?

HINKIE: [◯_◯]

GM: sam?

HINKIE: [◎_◎]

GM: a first?

HINKIE: [Ⓞ_Ⓞ]

GM: omg is 10 firsts ok??

 

[Bobcat10]

Who plays the point in Philly coming out of the break? Doesn't look like they gave that Frazier guy another 10-day. Do they even have a PG rostered?

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Can anyone outside of Philly name more than 5 Sixers now? Gawd what a disaster.

 

[rodg12]

Seems Detroit made out pretty well in this. Reggie Jackson for Augustine and Singler is a good move, I think.

 

[Village Idiot]

Deal had to get done.

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 44s44 seconds ago
Phoenix is finalizing a deal to send Goran Dragic to the Miami Heat, league source tells Yahoo Sports.

Championship.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Dragic should thrive when Wade's out, but he'll run into the same thing he was #####ing about in Phoenix when Wade's healthy.

Not a fan of the Suns give the Lakers pick for Brandon Knight & big contract. Gotta think Suns believe Lakers will be big players in free agency this offseason. Still risky given how good the West is.

 

[rodg12]

Who plays the point in Philly coming out of the break? Doesn't look like they gave that Frazier guy another 10-day. Do they even have a PG rostered?

Just picked up Isaiah Canaan in Pick's league. I think he's all they got right now.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Can anyone outside of Philly name more than 5 Sixers now? Gawd what a disaster.

Before the trade how many could people name?

 

[Insein]

joe м ‏@dr_pizza_MD 4m4 minutes ago

GM: how about a 2nd round pick

HINKIE: [●_●]

GM: ?

HINKIE: [◯_◯]

GM: sam?

HINKIE: [◎_◎]

GM: a first?

HINKIE: [Ⓞ_Ⓞ]

GM: omg is 10 firsts ok??

You have reached your quota of positive votes for the day

 

[Kraft...]

Seems Detroit made out pretty well in this. Reggie Jackson for Augustine and Singler is a good move, I think.

and they got Tayshaun Prince who's a decent depth guy for a contender

 

[msudaisy26]

Seems Detroit made out pretty well in this. Reggie Jackson for Augustine and Singler is a good move, I think.

If they can sign him