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UPDATE: Kings laying low in the weeds. Oh you just know they are about to shock the NBA with something soon.
Haha. Good stuff. "Please come to Sac, Lebron... King James! Every corner has bums, bums, bums; trailer parks and slums, slums, slums...." (did you hear that song on KHTK?)In all seriousness, I would like to see a decent value signing by the Kings... preferably a role player type SG that is a good spot shooter and can make free throws. Aside from that, I don't think the team has a bunch of pressing needs... they'll continue to develop the youth and hopefully things will click just right... or it'll be another rough year.
That song is pretty good.

 
Is the market for Salmons going to be determined after Rudy Gay, Joe Johnson, etc. sign? He's obviously a step below those guys, but couldn't a case be made that he's somewhat similar to Ben Gordon?
i think you're selling him short with that comparison. he's definitely not sexy or a-level talent but he's a little more mobile and versatile than ben.
Salmons is a good shooter and a good one on one offensive player. Salmons, at least with the Bulls, had the tendency to kill ball movement when he got a touch. He singlehandedly would kill the offensive rhythm by catching, facing up, and trying to make a move that often was not there. Not sure if that was a problem in Milwaukee. I was elated when he was traded that the chance he would choose to opt in was no longer a problem. When Gordon is on, he is unstoppable from the perimeter. But, basically that is all he can offer aside from a quick first step and a few floaters. He is a liability on the defensive end and Salmons is much much better on that end of the floor. I think letting both players go were tremendous moves by the Bulls even if there was no historic free agent class coming up.
 
Is the market for Salmons going to be determined after Rudy Gay, Joe Johnson, etc. sign? He's obviously a step below those guys, but couldn't a case be made that he's somewhat similar to Ben Gordon?
i think you're selling him short with that comparison. he's definitely not sexy or a-level talent but he's a little more mobile and versatile than ben.
Salmons is a good shooter and a good one on one offensive player. Salmons, at least with the Bulls, had the tendency to kill ball movement when he got a touch. He singlehandedly would kill the offensive rhythm by catching, facing up, and trying to make a move that often was not there. Not sure if that was a problem in Milwaukee. I was elated when he was traded that the chance he would choose to opt in was no longer a problem. When Gordon is on, he is unstoppable from the perimeter. But, basically that is all he can offer aside from a quick first step and a few floaters. He is a liability on the defensive end and Salmons is much much better on that end of the floor. I think letting both players go were tremendous moves by the Bulls even if there was no historic free agent class coming up.
He had the same problem in Sacramento. Bunch of talent but way to much one on one. Which would cause a bunch of turn overs.
 
Is the market for Salmons going to be determined after Rudy Gay, Joe Johnson, etc. sign? He's obviously a step below those guys, but couldn't a case be made that he's somewhat similar to Ben Gordon?
i think you're selling him short with that comparison. he's definitely not sexy or a-level talent but he's a little more mobile and versatile than ben.
Salmons is a good shooter and a good one on one offensive player. Salmons, at least with the Bulls, had the tendency to kill ball movement when he got a touch. He singlehandedly would kill the offensive rhythm by catching, facing up, and trying to make a move that often was not there. Not sure if that was a problem in Milwaukee. I was elated when he was traded that the chance he would choose to opt in was no longer a problem. When Gordon is on, he is unstoppable from the perimeter. But, basically that is all he can offer aside from a quick first step and a few floaters. He is a liability on the defensive end and Salmons is much much better on that end of the floor. I think letting both players go were tremendous moves by the Bulls even if there was no historic free agent class coming up.
I agree. I think Salmons is a better player on offensive starved teams where he gets isolations. There is a reason he's constantly on the move and never on the radar of contending teams.And you're right about the Bulls. How dumb does Joe D look for blowing his wad on Gordon and Chuckie V last summer? How does he still have a job?
 
Here are some Lebron related tweets

# Jay-Z has not left yet, Nets car waiting for him to head to airport. A private meeting with LeBron? 10 minutes ago via TweetDeck

# Nets had folders with LeBron's face integrated into logo 12 minutes ago via TweetDeck

# Nets just left. Avery Johnson said "meeting went well." Prohorov thought it was funny that he heard he'd landed on radio. 13 minutes ago via TweetDeck

# Knicks arrive in 4, count 'em, 4 cars. They literally passed Jay-Z's car as hd left building.

All from Windhorst's twitter.

 
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Is the market for Salmons going to be determined after Rudy Gay, Joe Johnson, etc. sign? He's obviously a step below those guys, but couldn't a case be made that he's somewhat similar to Ben Gordon?
Traditionally we have seen unrestricted free agents sign before restricted free agents. Teams don't want to tie up their cap space while waiting to see if a restricted free agent's contract will be matched. I wouldn't be surprised to see Salmons signed before Rudy.
 
Why am I having a hard time thinking that Chris Bosh would be "the answer" in Houston? Don't get me wrong - I'd love to add some talent and Bosh is certainly talented. I guess I just don't think he's THAT good; players in the top-15 in the league shouldn't be missing the playoffs. I don't care who else is on the team. I guess that, to me, adding BOsh means letting Scola walk and giving up Battier and probably HIll and Budinger. I'm not sure I'd trade Scola and Budg straight up for Bosh. I admit I'm probably selling Bosh's talent short. I guess I just haven't seen him enough and his over-eagerness about the free agency is annoying.

 
I would love for LEbron to go the Nets. I know we've gone 100 rounds on this, but I would love for him to take one of the few teams with "history" but without much of a face and put it on his back. Then again, I guess the same could be said of doing that in Cleveland.

 
And you're right about the Bulls. How dumb does Joe D look for blowing his wad on Gordon and Chuckie V last summer? How does he still have a job?
:shock:
As a Pistons fan, I'm tempted to drive to Auburn Hills to smack Joe Dumars upside the head. Looking back a couple of years, the whole Billups for Iverson trade, and Rasheed's expiring contract were supposed to free up cap space for this year's free agent class. Instead, he decided to use that cap room last offseason on Charlie Villanueva and Ben Gordon. I know they wouldn't have been in the running for LeBron or Wade, but they could have at least had a chance at one of the other top available FAs. Instead, they have $20 million a year tied up in a 6th man and an alleged wife beater who averaged 12 & 5 last season. Not to mention Rip Hamilton's albatross of a contract that they're stuck with through 2013, I believe. It's going to be quite a while before we see another winning season around here from the looks of it.
 
And you're right about the Bulls. How dumb does Joe D look for blowing his wad on Gordon and Chuckie V last summer? How does he still have a job?
:whistle:
As a Pistons fan, I'm tempted to drive to Auburn Hills to smack Joe Dumars upside the head. Looking back a couple of years, the whole Billups for Iverson trade, and Rasheed's expiring contract were supposed to free up cap space for this year's free agent class. Instead, he decided to use that cap room last offseason on Charlie Villanueva and Ben Gordon. I know they wouldn't have been in the running for LeBron or Wade, but they could have at least had a chance at one of the other top available FAs. Instead, they have $20 million a year tied up in a 6th man and an alleged wife beater who averaged 12 & 5 last season. Not to mention Rip Hamilton's albatross of a contract that they're stuck with through 2013, I believe. It's going to be quite a while before we see another winning season around here from the looks of it.
Nailed it SM.
 
Regarding MILMe and a coworker agreed its the worst contract in the NBA. Id rather have Illyasova playing over him 100 times out of a 100. Gooden is a vet minimum type of player or at best a LLE guy. To give him a 5 year contract at almost 7 per is disgusting.
It is nowhere near the worst contract in the league. There is talk that the last 2 years are team options anyhow. But Gooden at jus over the MLE, while not a bargain, is in no way the worst contract in the NBA.
 
Nets spent 90 minutes meeting with Lebron, here is a breif synopsis of that meeting

1.Nets spend 45 minutes unloading luggage

2.Lebron asks how many wins did you have last year?

3.Nets spend 45 minutes packing up thier luggage.

 
Regarding MILMe and a coworker agreed its the worst contract in the NBA. Id rather have Illyasova playing over him 100 times out of a 100. Gooden is a vet minimum type of player or at best a LLE guy. To give him a 5 year contract at almost 7 per is disgusting.
It is nowhere near the worst contract in the league. There is talk that the last 2 years are team options anyhow. But Gooden at jus over the MLE, while not a bargain, is in no way the worst contract in the NBA.
rashard lewis might be the worst contract on the books these days. but give it time! free agency is upon us!
 
Regarding MILMe and a coworker agreed its the worst contract in the NBA. Id rather have Illyasova playing over him 100 times out of a 100. Gooden is a vet minimum type of player or at best a LLE guy. To give him a 5 year contract at almost 7 per is disgusting.
It is nowhere near the worst contract in the league. There is talk that the last 2 years are team options anyhow. But Gooden at jus over the MLE, while not a bargain, is in no way the worst contract in the NBA.
Here is what is being reported on the bucks boards with Gooden's contract. 1st year- 52nd year-53rd year - 64th year -75th year - 8With the last 2 being team options...
 
I will believe that Lebron will sign for less than the max (no sign and trade) on a team that has another max player (wade in Miami or anywhere with Bosh) when I see it. Lebron is not going to allow himself to be the 2nd highest paid player on the team no matter how good the situation could be. That leaves Chicago, Cleveland and NY.

 
chadfordinsiderL Breaking News: Wolves agree to a 4 year, $20 mil deal with Darko Milicic. Link coming shortly ...
Darko...WAIT
The genius of Khan, how does this guy even have a job? Hell im going to say it, Goggins could do a better job as a GM.
With some luck you could have done a better job.Darko really signing with Wolves? The horrible teams just keep getting worse.
 
Milwaukee close to re-signing John Salmons for five years, $39M. Story up soon on NBA.com.

David Aldridge

http://twitter.com/daldridgetnt

thoughts???
They say five year deal for both he and Gooden but I will wait to make some thoughts on these until I know if there are team options. I thought I head Gooden's last two years were team options and one of Salmon's is. If that is the case, I like them more. They still need a backup PG (like Rid) to spell BJ.Jennings

Salmons

Delfino

Gooden

Bogut

Magette

LRMM

Ersan

CDR

Sanders

Gallon

Hobson

Ridnour?

Redd?

Stackhouse?

Maybe a 48-50 win team.

 
Regarding MILMe and a coworker agreed its the worst contract in the NBA. Id rather have Illyasova playing over him 100 times out of a 100. Gooden is a vet minimum type of player or at best a LLE guy. To give him a 5 year contract at almost 7 per is disgusting.
It is nowhere near the worst contract in the league. There is talk that the last 2 years are team options anyhow. But Gooden at jus over the MLE, while not a bargain, is in no way the worst contract in the NBA.
Here is what is being reported on the bucks boards with Gooden's contract. 1st year- 52nd year-53rd year - 64th year -75th year - 8With the last 2 being team options...
That's not bad, if those terms are correct. It's really 3/16, and in the 3rd year he'll have value as an expiring K.
 
Why am I having a hard time thinking that Chris Bosh would be "the answer" in Houston? Don'thttp://static.footballguys.com/fsv/topbar/fantasyplayersnetwork.gif get me wrong - I'd love to add some talent and Bosh is certainly talented. I guess I just don't think he's THAT good; players in the top-15 in the league shouldn't be missing the playoffs. I don't care who else is on the team. I guess that, to me, adding BOsh means letting Scola walk and giving up Battier and probably HIll and Budinger. I'm not sure I'd trade Scola and Budg straight up for Bosh. I admit I'm probably selling Bosh's talent short. I guess I just haven't seen him enough and his over-eagerness about the free agency is annoying.
Don't think he's a clear cut answer but adding him would definitely make the team better. If you go to red94.net there's a crapload of stats / analysis as to why the Rockets would significantly improve.http://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-chris-bosh-6/1214/

So I was very upset last night. I had merely assumed Chris Bosh would be in uniform, looking forward to building upon my very superficial earlier assessment of his abilities. Of course that was not the case as he has been out with injury. I will just need to catch a Raptors game on League Pass upon his return.

What really stood out to me during the first meeting was from just how far out Bosh likes to operate. I don’t think I have seen another power forward in the league (other than Dirk, who doesn’t really count) who can shoot fadeaways with such ease from such great distance. The above is Chris Bosh’s hot zones for this season. Most striking is that his favorite spot seems to be at the right elbow, a tendency which would be ideal for a Yao-centric offense, with Yao Ming’s favorite spot being the left block (Yao can operate from either block but is more effective on the left because he can either fadeaway towards his right shoulder or come to the middle for the hook – on the right block, he can only fadeaway to his left shoulder; he has no ability to come towards the middle from that side.) Chris Bosh also takes 53% of his attempts as jumpshots which of course is a crucial ability for a power forward to have in this offense. Really, you can’t find a better fit for this offense in this league at the ‘4′ than Bosh.

I have long felt that Yao Ming is most effective when he receives the ball at the end of plays rather than at the beginning of them. If he receives the ball at the beginning of a play, he is then forced into passing upon drawing the double team; Yao is not a good passer and has very slow reaction time. Ideally, you want to overload the other side and then swing it to Yao at the end so he can shoot before the defense reacts. Unfortunately, for reasons unknown, we only saw this sequence during the second half of McGrady’s first year. I have long felt that making Yao a scoring target (as opposed to an offensive facilitator) was the main adjustment made by Jeff Van Gundy that season to trigger the team’s second half run. For whatever reason–possibly McGrady’s injury problems–we have never seen it again, and Yao has been used as a facilitator where he is prone to fronting defenses, turnovers, and getting blocked from the weakside.

I envision an offense where Bosh receives the ball on the right elbow, his favorite spot, as the focal point of each set. Unlike Luis Scola, rather than just shooting or passing, he can actually turn his back from this distance and draw the double team. The three guards continue cutting, keeping their men away from shading Yao. Bosh now has the option to attack on his own from the triple-threat position, either shooting or driving, or he can move the ball to one of the guards with either a hand-off or a kickout.

Our multi-dimensional guards can now either shoot, where they are lethal, or drive in where they are equally lethal.

If the guards choose to pass, the ball can be swung around the perimeter and quickly dumped into Yao or handed off to him inside off of the drive. The intent of such an exhaustive sequence is that through each successive event in the chain, the probability of the defense successfully rotating to Yao is continuously reduced. Either a prior event produces a high efficiency attempt for another player or Yao receives the ball in his favorite spot with the optimal probability of single coverage. The point should be to make Yao a scorer and simply a scorer. Yao Ming is not a passer.

What makes Bosh so unique, distinct from someone like Amare Stoudemire, is the ability to actually set up from the high post. You see, Stoudemire operates from the perimeter just as effectively. The distinction though is that Stoudemire is the end of a play – he attacks immediately off the catch because his two skills are driving and shooting; he can’t hold the ball and draw the defense. This presents somewhat of a conflict with Yao because Yao too is best used as an end target. On the other hand, Bosh can actually hold the ball at the elbow and draw the defense because he has the ability to post up from that distance.
http://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-chris-bosh-15/2148/

Thanks to the TrueHoop Network, I have the Synergy Sports database at my disposal for player evaluation.

The available data really underscores why Chris Bosh would be such a great fit with the Houston Rockets.

As a measuring stick, I used the numbers on Luis Scola because I felt he served as the comparison most conducive to conceptualization.

In 170 instances as the ‘roll man’ in pick&roll situations, Luis Scola shot 46%, scoring 47% of the time this past season.

By comparison, in 187 occurrences, Bosh shot 64%, scoring 63% of the time.

Anyone familiar with the personnel of this Houston Rockets team can easily imagine how such potency in the pick&roll could come as a boon. Having a ‘roll man’ as dangerous as Bosh would make this backcourt even deadlier as both Aaron Brooks and Kevin Martin can already pull-up and create off the dribble.

But with Bosh, you wouldn’t exactly be sacrificing interior scoring. The 6’10 forward shot 53% on his 548 post-ups, scoring on 55% of these occasions.

By comparison, Scola shot 49%, scoring 46% of the time during his 375 attempts.

But what about the other end of the floor? Defense at the ‘4’ spot is imperative against the Western Conference’s powerhouses. Chuck Hayes has been lock-down in shutting down opponents, but to win a title, the team cannot rely on his presence beyond situational circumstances. To win without a superstar, all five players must be capable/potent scorers.

In post-up situations, Luis Scola’s man scored on 54% of the occasions, shooting 55% on these attempts. Against Bosh, on the other hand, opponents shot 43%, scoring on 43% of the attempts.

There’s a small minority that still believes this team would be best served standing pat with Luis Scola at the ‘4’. While Scola is a fine player, Chris Bosh he is not.

For many more reasons than just those outlined above, Chris Bosh will be worth every penny of the $16million he will earn next season and worth every last asset it would require the Houston Rockets to relinquish in a pursuit through trade.
 
A couple of updates here:

Channing Frye is considering a five-year, $25M offer from the Phoenix Suns.

Frye is waiting for a resolution to the situations in Chicago and New York because he might also have an opportunity to play there.

Read more: http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives.../#ixzz0sSJpf6Ao

Bobcats point guard Raymond Felton has drawn interest from a number of teams as a free agent.

Felton, who has been contacted by seven teams, would consider a sign-and-trade.

Agent Tony Dutt wouldn't list the interested parties, but it appears as though Felton's time in Charlotte may be coming to an end.

The Bobcats have made little push to re-sign Felton.

Read more: http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives.../#ixzz0sSKAxGBx

Felton would fit nicely at PG for Knicks

 
"After meeting with LeBron in Akron, [the Nets] are heading to Chicago this afternoon for a sit down with Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh. The team also is taking a very aggressive approach toward Grizzlies free agent Rudy Gay. If LeBron says no to the Nets, sources say they will make a big offer to Gay. The Nets biggest need is at small forward. If the team can't land LeBron or Gay, look for them to go back to the Pacers and a potential Danny Granger for Devin Harris and Derrick Favors deal."

 
I would love for LEbron to go the Nets. I know we've gone 100 rounds on this, but I would love for him to take one of the few teams with "history" but without much of a face and put it on his back. Then again, I guess the same could be said of doing that in Cleveland.
At this point I'll just be happy if he joins any team except CLE or the Knicks. As a Rocket fan I want the Knicks as awful as possible over the new few years.
 
Since we all love Wolves talk.

The Timberwolves opened free agency Wednesday night by contacting forwards Rudy Gay (Memphis) and David Lee (New York). Gay will be in Minneapolis Thursday and Lee will arrive on Saturday."Those are the only two people I anticipated calling today," president of basketball operations David Kahn told the Pioneer Press. "That doesn't mean that we may not ask others to come in, but they clearly were the two players I felt we wanted to meet and wanted to get to know better and have an opportunity to have a dialogue with." When asked about Lee visiting a team already with two power forwards, Kahn told the Star Tribune: "Our frontline is very much in flux. I don't know what will occur there. David Lee fits who we are or who we aim to be. He runs really well. He finishes strong around the basket. He's an exceptional passer. He and Kevin Love easily could play some minutes together."Memphis can match any offer sheet signed by Gay since he's a restricted free agent. Lee has no restrictions on where he can sign.
Reading between the lines here it seems like KAHN!!! is saying Big Al is out of here.
 
I would love for LEbron to go the Nets. I know we've gone 100 rounds on this, but I would love for him to take one of the few teams with "history" but without much of a face and put it on his back. Then again, I guess the same could be said of doing that in Cleveland.
At this point I'll just be happy if he joins any team except CLE or the Knicks. As a Rocket fan I want the Knicks as awful as possible over the new few years.
Might be bad news for you then Goggins:(from NY beatwriter Frank Isola)Isola:Still get the sense that these meetings are silly. Don't you think it comes down to LeBron deciding between Cleveland and New York?less than 20 seconds ago via web
 
I would love for LEbron to go the Nets. I know we've gone 100 rounds on this, but I would love for him to take one of the few teams with "history" but without much of a face and put it on his back. Then again, I guess the same could be said of doing that in Cleveland.
At this point I'll just be happy if he joins any team except CLE or the Knicks. As a Rocket fan I want the Knicks as awful as possible over the new few years.
Might be bad news for you then Goggins:(from NY beatwriter Frank Isola)

Isola:

Still get the sense that these meetings are silly. Don't you think it comes down to LeBron deciding between Cleveland and New York?less than 20 seconds ago via web
no
 
The Milicic and Pekovic deals severely cut into the Wolves' cap room this summer. Starting July 1, with $13 million under the cap, Minnesota now has a little less than $5 million left to use on remaining free agents.

The Wolves are hosting free agents Rudy Gay and David Lee in the coming days. However, the only way they'll be able to sign either is through a sign-and-trade.

Sources say the Wolves will use forward Al Jefferson as trade bait to both the Grizzlies and Knicks.

Chad Ford covers the NBA for ESPN Insider.

Please let this happen, Al Jefferson would give the Knicks an actual center instead of having to rely on a rookie or Eddy Curry.

 
aaron goldhammer of espn 850 cleveland on espn atm.. basically saying its between ny and cleveland

-said nets tried to up knicks in every way possible

-said knicks are a big reason lebron wanted to become a fa in the first place, to play at msg

-said knowing lebron he would not be surprised if he leaves, also said hes a hometown guy though

-claims byron scott as a reason he would stay (really?)

-says cleveland has people outside with picket signs

 
The Milicic and Pekovic deals severely cut into the Wolves' cap room this summer. Starting July 1, with $13 million under the cap, Minnesota now has a little less than $5 million left to use on remaining free agents.The Wolves are hosting free agents Rudy Gay and David Lee in the coming days. However, the only way they'll be able to sign either is through a sign-and-trade.Sources say the Wolves will use forward Al Jefferson as trade bait to both the Grizzlies and Knicks.Chad Ford covers the NBA for ESPN Insider.Please let this happen, Al Jefferson would give the Knicks an actual center instead of having to rely on a rookie or Eddy Curry.
Al-Jeff is not a C; he's really a PF. i guess it would involve a R1 pick to land him.
 
Regarding MILMe and a coworker agreed its the worst contract in the NBA. Id rather have Illyasova playing over him 100 times out of a 100. Gooden is a vet minimum type of player or at best a LLE guy. To give him a 5 year contract at almost 7 per is disgusting.
It is nowhere near the worst contract in the league. There is talk that the last 2 years are team options anyhow. But Gooden at jus over the MLE, while not a bargain, is in no way the worst contract in the NBA.
Here is what is being reported on the bucks boards with Gooden's contract. 1st year- 52nd year-53rd year - 64th year -75th year - 8With the last 2 being team options...
the bucks have message boards? who knew...
 
Cavs and Byron Scott agree to 3 year deal
Great hire by Cavs.
Some will say it looks like their 3rd choice. But he was very non commital when they first had positive discussions with him. I'm guessing he is 2nd to Shaw in the Lakers race and has figured that out in that time.
And CLE ended up with the best of their three choices for the job, both from a "winning basketball games" perspective and a "keep LeBron in town" perspective. One of the negatives LeBron had about Mike Brown was that Brown never played in the NBA. Bryon Scott won titles as a player, and has two Finals appearances as a coach. He's a good coach, and was the best one available (assuming Larry Brown and Phil Jackson were just pipe dreams).Shaw probably got some sort of promise from LAL about getting Jackson's chair if/when he retires. Jackson is either done of has one more year left, so having an internal candidate ready to be promoted at a moment's notice matters more to LAL than other franchises. One of the talking heads on Fastbreak/Sportscenter last night said LeBron wants to get his new contract signed by the 5th. Figuring that he's the domino that pushes the rest, and this decision could take a few days with all the ancillary concerns for Lebron Inc., we might not have too many fireworks before the 5th.
There aren't many Laker fans upset about Scott getting the gig this morning. Anecdotal, but none of my Laker friends wanted Byron running the Lakers. Shaw is definitely a wildcard, but by all accounts he's well respected by Kobe and Fish, and that's all that really matters in LA right now. I think Phil coaches 1 more year, Shaw gets the gig next year with Fish coming aboard as a top assistant.
personally, I was holding out hope that Byron would get the Lakers coaching gig some day. he's my favorite Laker ever, and he and Kobe have a very good relationship. Byron's last year with the Lakers was Kobe's first, and Byron helped him a lot. he's a Laker to the heart, and I'd love to see him back on the sidelines.
 
I would love for LEbron to go the Nets. I know we've gone 100 rounds on this, but I would love for him to take one of the few teams with "history" but without much of a face and put it on his back. Then again, I guess the same could be said of doing that in Cleveland.
At this point I'll just be happy if he joins any team except CLE or the Knicks. As a Rocket fan I want the Knicks as awful as possible over the new few years.
Might be bad news for you then Goggins:(from NY beatwriter Frank Isola)Isola:Still get the sense that these meetings are silly. Don't you think it comes down to LeBron deciding between Cleveland and New York?less than 20 seconds ago via web
Well as long as he doesn't go to the Knicks I'll be happy which means most likely he'll be a Knick in a few days
 

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