*NBA THREAD* Abe will be missed (4 Viewers)

[No. 16]

The Magic have nothing for Paul, but I have to think they could get creative on Ellis. Who knows.

I don't see anything on the Magic's roster that I think GS would be interested in. Ellis for Nelson seems like a step backwards.

Doubt that will happen unless the Magic get a 3rd team involved and can dump Biedrins contract. There's really nothing on the Magic roster outside of Howard that is enough to get someone like Ellis. Not saying it's going to happen, but I think it would be more likely the Warriors get Howard to pair will Ellis if that's Howard's wish.A package that involves anyone of the Warriors roster for Howard will be more plausible than what the Magic have to offer for Ellis. Warriors can offer:- Ellis or Curry- Wright or Klay Thompson- Throw in Udoh and whatever the hell you want to make salaries match and get the deal done.The Warriors would be left with...Curry/EllisDavid LeeDwight Howard to build around, which is pretty damn good, IMO, if they surround them with wingmen like Affalo who can defend and shoot.

 

[Britney Spears]

Some news and notes from ESPN rumor central:

1. Grant Hill will likely re-sign with the Suns, but the Knicks, Nets and Bulls are also interested.

2. The Warriors are shopping Andris Biedrins in the hopes of getting Tyson Chandler.

3. Brian Butch has chosen to play with the New Orleans Hornets.

4. Greg Oden will sign a one year, qualifying offer with Portland.

5. Jon Leur, who was drafted by Milwaukee in 2011, but has been playing in Germany, will opt out of his Euro contract and play for the Bucks this year.

6. Kevin Love is looking to sign a max deal with Minnesota.

7. New Jersey is trying to put together a deal for Dwight Howard. But they are also interested in the following free agents: Nene, Tayshaun Prince, Andrei Krilenko, Grant Hill, Caron Butler, Jamal Crawford..

8. The Suns will waive Vince Carter. Chicago, Miami, and San Antonio are all interested.

9. Indianapolis is trying to sign Jamal Crawford and Carl Landry. And REALLY interested in getting Nene.

Tim.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

The Magic have nothing for Paul, but I have to think they could get creative on Ellis. Who knows.

I don't see anything on the Magic's roster that I think GS would be interested in. Ellis for Nelson seems like a step backwards.

Doubt that will happen unless the Magic get a 3rd team involved and can dump Biedrins contract. There's really nothing on the Magic roster outside of Howard that is enough to get someone like Ellis. Not saying it's going to happen, but I think it would be more likely the Warriors get Howard to pair will Ellis if that's Howard's wish.A package that involves anyone of the Warriors roster for Howard will be more plausible than what the Magic have to offer for Ellis. Warriors can offer:- Ellis or Curry- Wright or Klay Thompson- Throw in Udoh and whatever the hell you want to make salaries match and get the deal done.The Warriors would be left with...Curry/EllisDavid LeeDwight Howard to build around, which is pretty damn good, IMO, if they surround them with wingmen like Affalo who can defend and shoot.

The whole point of this exercise is to figure out how Orlando gets someone to play with Howard. Orlando isn't giving up Howard for Ellis, Wright, and filler.

 

[No. 16]

The Magic have nothing for Paul, but I have to think they could get creative on Ellis. Who knows.

I don't see anything on the Magic's roster that I think GS would be interested in. Ellis for Nelson seems like a step backwards.

Doubt that will happen unless the Magic get a 3rd team involved and can dump Biedrins contract. There's really nothing on the Magic roster outside of Howard that is enough to get someone like Ellis. Not saying it's going to happen, but I think it would be more likely the Warriors get Howard to pair will Ellis if that's Howard's wish.A package that involves anyone of the Warriors roster for Howard will be more plausible than what the Magic have to offer for Ellis.

Warriors can offer:

- Ellis or Curry

- Wright or Klay Thompson

- Throw in Udoh and whatever the hell you want to make salaries match and get the deal done.

The Warriors would be left with...

Curry/Ellis

David Lee

Dwight Howard to build around, which is pretty damn good, IMO, if they surround them with wingmen like Affalo who can defend and shoot.

The whole point of this exercise is to figure out how Orlando gets someone to play with Howard. Orlando isn't giving up Howard for Ellis, Wright, and filler.

I know that. Just stating that given the two team's rosters GS has more talent to offer ORL to get Howard than ORL has to get Ellis.

 

[Abraham]

The magic can give hedo and reddick to the hawks for joe Johnson. Hawks amnesty hedo. Howard gets a good player next to him. (Simmons thought of that one)

I'm hoping the rockets don't do something dumb like give nene a bucket of money. I'd much rather have Jordan at 2/3 the price.

 

[Kev4029]

The magic can give hedo and reddick to the hawks for joe Johnson. Hawks amnesty hedo. Howard gets a good player next to him. (Simmons thought of that one)I'm hoping the rockets don't do something dumb like give nene a bucket of money. I'd much rather have Jordan at 2/3 the price.

Why wouldn't the Hawks just amnesty Johnson and avoid the bad contract of Reddick?

 

[Good Posting Judge]

The magic can give hedo and reddick to the hawks for joe Johnson. Hawks amnesty hedo. Howard gets a good player next to him. (Simmons thought of that one)I'm hoping the rockets don't do something dumb like give nene a bucket of money. I'd much rather have Jordan at 2/3 the price.

Why wouldn't the Hawks just amnesty Johnson and avoid the bad contract of Reddick?

Because ATL would be even worse of a draw, and there's nobody else to spend that money on.

 

[Kev4029]

The magic can give hedo and reddick to the hawks for joe Johnson. Hawks amnesty hedo. Howard gets a good player next to him. (Simmons thought of that one)I'm hoping the rockets don't do something dumb like give nene a bucket of money. I'd much rather have Jordan at 2/3 the price.

Why wouldn't the Hawks just amnesty Johnson and avoid the bad contract of Reddick?

Because ATL would be even worse of a draw, and there's nobody else to spend that money on.

This is why they won't be using the amnesty on anybody. If they were to amnesty anybody, they would be out all that money with a ####ty ownership group, plus they wouldn't create much cap space, plus they would take a competitive team and make them a run of the mill Eastern Conference 8th seed type. I wonder if the Nuggets could work out a sign and trade with Nene for Josh Smith.

 

[NDyse10]

Was watching Sportscenter and Chris Broussard came on and said how the Lakers are toying with the idea of trying to get Howard AND Paul. Broussard went on to say that in his opinion it would be possible and everyone on the Lakers team would be available except for Bryant. If the Lakers did end up getting Paul and Howard to pair with Bryant that would be an awfully tough team to stop.

 

[the moops]

If the Lakers did end up getting Paul and Howard to pair with Bryant that would be an awfully tough team to stop.

You think?

 

[Shrugs]

If NO would take just Bynum for Paul, I can't see how the Magic could get better than Gasol and Odom for Howard and Turk.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Was watching Sportscenter and Chris Broussard came on and said how the Lakers are toying with the idea of trying to get Howard AND Paul. Broussard went on to say that in his opinion it would be possible and everyone on the Lakers team would be available except for Bryant. If the Lakers did end up getting Paul and Howard to pair with Bryant that would be an awfully tough team to stop.

This would require trading Gasol AND Bynum AND Odom, correct? MWP and Walton don't seem like they have much trade value.

 

[NDyse10]

Was watching Sportscenter and Chris Broussard came on and said how the Lakers are toying with the idea of trying to get Howard AND Paul. Broussard went on to say that in his opinion it would be possible and everyone on the Lakers team would be available except for Bryant. If the Lakers did end up getting Paul and Howard to pair with Bryant that would be an awfully tough team to stop.

This would require trading Gasol AND Bynum AND Odom, correct? MWP and Walton don't seem like they have much trade value.

From what Broussard said that would be correct. The Lakers would trade Gasol, Bynum and Odom to get Howard and Paul. He didn't speculate on what the specifics of each trade would be.

 

[Premier]

If NO would take just Bynum for Paul, I can't see how the Magic could get better than Gasol and Odom for Howard and Turk.

Why in the hell would the Magic want Gasol and Odom?

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Was watching Sportscenter and Chris Broussard came on and said how the Lakers are toying with the idea of trying to get Howard AND Paul. Broussard went on to say that in his opinion it would be possible and everyone on the Lakers team would be available except for Bryant. If the Lakers did end up getting Paul and Howard to pair with Bryant that would be an awfully tough team to stop.

This would require trading Gasol AND Bynum AND Odom, correct? MWP and Walton don't seem like they have much trade value.

From what Broussard said that would be correct. The Lakers would trade Gasol, Bynum and Odom to get Howard and Paul. He didn't speculate on what the specifics of each trade would be.

Who is going to play PF? I dunno, but I think I'd stand pat. Or just try to move Odom and Bynum for Howard.

 

[wazoo11]

Oh look, Chris Broussard running on nothing factual.

 

[Abraham]

If NO would take just Bynum for Paul, I can't see how the Magic could get better than Gasol and Odom for Howard and Turk.

Why in the hell would the Magic want Gasol and Odom?

Because it serves the need of lamer fans to land Paul and Howard. Duh

 

[Sammy3469]

Oh look, Chris Broussard running on nothing factual.

If anything the Clippers have more pieces for both those guys. I still don't get why either NO or ORL would take a chance on Bynum with the other packages that will be out there. BTW I find it funny/ironic that the consensus seems to be the players lost in this labor negotiation, yet all these FAs are in line for huge paydays. Having that minimum cap number bumped to 85% was a huge win (with it being 90% going forward).

 

[shake zula]

I don't think Miller will be amnestied because I don't think it benefits Miami at all, but the reason hes being considered is because of his absolutely horrible season which included various injuries followed by off-season hernia surgery a couple weeks ago. He was a much different case than Afflalo because he is 5 years younger, has no injury history and has improved each year of his career. Miller was a walking injury prior to his contract last year, he was on the slight down side of his career and his career had slowly been heading the wrong direction for the last half decade.

Heat should save the amnesty for Wade or Bosh circa 2-3 years from now. BronBron will still be lights out but I think that's when we'll see the beginning of the end for Wade.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

I don't think Miller will be amnestied because I don't think it benefits Miami at all, but the reason hes being considered is because of his absolutely horrible season which included various injuries followed by off-season hernia surgery a couple weeks ago. He was a much different case than Afflalo because he is 5 years younger, has no injury history and has improved each year of his career. Miller was a walking injury prior to his contract last year, he was on the slight down side of his career and his career had slowly been heading the wrong direction for the last half decade.

Heat should save the amnesty for Wade or Bosh circa 2-3 years from now. BronBron will still be lights out but I think that's when we'll see the beginning of the end for Wade.

They should just trade Bosh now while he still has some value. He is useless on that team and is going to become more and more overpaid each year.

 

[tommyGunZ]

If NO would take just Bynum for Paul, I can't see how the Magic could get better than Gasol and Odom for Howard and Turk.

Why in the hell would the Magic want Gasol and Odom?

Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom are bums now?

 

[Kiddnets]

The magic can give hedo and reddick to the hawks for joe Johnson. Hawks amnesty hedo. Howard gets a good player next to him. (Simmons thought of that one)I'm hoping the rockets don't do something dumb like give nene a bucket of money. I'd much rather have Jordan at 2/3 the price.

Im pretty sure you can only amnesty your ownm player - cant trade for a player and then amnesty him.

 

[tommyGunZ]

If NO would take just Bynum for Paul, I can't see how the Magic could get better than Gasol and Odom for Howard and Turk.

Why in the hell would the Magic want Gasol and Odom?

Because it serves the need of lamer fans to land Paul and Howard. Duh

You guys need to get your arguments straight. A year ago, Gasol was the most "skilled big men in the game", a "HOFer" who Kobe rode to another couple titles. Odom is a versatile 6-10" PF who averages 14 and 9 while shooting 38% from 3 pt land and is the best passing PF in basketball. LOL at the idea that teams wouldn't "want Gasol and Odom".

 

[the moops]

Von Wafer

@vonwafer13

von wafer

I just wanna be gay,I wanna be honest with y'all... I like mens since I was like 15yo , dont be mad ppl on me cuz I still wanna have friends

Some debate whether his account was hacked, but if this is true good for him. Strange way to come out, for sure, but it sure does take some balls.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

If NO would take just Bynum for Paul, I can't see how the Magic could get better than Gasol and Odom for Howard and Turk.

Why in the hell would the Magic want Gasol and Odom?

Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom are bums now?

They would be useless for an Orlando team without Howard.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Von Wafer

@vonwafer13

von wafer

I just wanna be gay,I wanna be honest with y'all... I like mens since I was like 15yo , dont be mad ppl on me cuz I still wanna have friends

Some debate whether his account was hacked, but if this is true good for him. Strange way to come out, for sure, but it sure does take some balls.

hack job.

 

[tommyGunZ]

If NO would take just Bynum for Paul, I can't see how the Magic could get better than Gasol and Odom for Howard and Turk.

Why in the hell would the Magic want Gasol and Odom?

Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom are bums now?

They would be useless for an Orlando team without Howard.

You guys are going to be extremely disappointed with the return Orlando gets if you think Gasol and Odom are "useless".

 

[Sammy3469]

If NO would take just Bynum for Paul, I can't see how the Magic could get better than Gasol and Odom for Howard and Turk.

Why in the hell would the Magic want Gasol and Odom?

Because it serves the need of lamer fans to land Paul and Howard. Duh

You guys need to get your arguments straight. A year ago, Gasol was the most "skilled big men in the game", a "HOFer" who Kobe rode to another couple titles. Odom is a versatile 6-10" PF who averages 14 and 9 while shooting 38% from 3 pt land and is the best passing PF in basketball. LOL at the idea that teams wouldn't "want Gasol and Odom".

The problem isn't with their skills, but with that fact that one is 31 and the other is 32 and that the Magic would get no cap relief. At least with Bynum you're getting a youngish C to build around. With those 2 you're getting 2 years or so of top quality basketball while your cap is still tied up for those two years. It does nothing to get them into rebuilding mode. And sure they'd be able to spin those two guys off, but whatever they get will be less (and I can't even figure out an easy place to spin them off to since none of the contenders who make the obvious fits seem to have the young parts) than they'd get for Howard directly from a team like the Clippers or Nets for Howard.

 

[boubucarow]

If NO would take just Bynum for Paul, I can't see how the Magic could get better than Gasol and Odom for Howard and Turk.

Why in the hell would the Magic want Gasol and Odom?

Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom are bums now?

They would be useless for an Orlando team without Howard.

You guys are going to be extremely disappointed with the return Orlando gets if you think Gasol and Odom are "useless".

Gasol and Odom are great adds for a team that has the other pieces to win now. Orlando without Howard is no where near winning so adding players in their 31 and 32 seasons makes no sense at all. Unless Orlando has trades in place to move both pieces, the trade makes very little sense for them. Of course we have no idea what offers the Magic will be getting, but I would think at least one option exists that gives them a larger window to build.

 

[thecatch]

If NO would take just Bynum for Paul, I can't see how the Magic could get better than Gasol and Odom for Howard and Turk.

Why in the hell would the Magic want Gasol and Odom?

Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom are bums now?

They would be useless for an Orlando team without Howard.

You guys are going to be extremely disappointed with the return Orlando gets if you think Gasol and Odom are "useless".

Gasol is a great player and would ensure Orlando stays competitive for a playoff spot, but would also keep them from rebuilding a title contender by virtue of his salary and him keeping the team out of the lottery.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

If NO would take just Bynum for Paul, I can't see how the Magic could get better than Gasol and Odom for Howard and Turk.

Why in the hell would the Magic want Gasol and Odom?

Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom are bums now?

They would be useless for an Orlando team without Howard.

You guys are going to be extremely disappointed with the return Orlando gets if you think Gasol and Odom are "useless".

Useless on Orlando. Adding those two does not make them a championship caliber team. It makes them probably a 5 seed at best. What good is adding two guys who are 31+ when they are not going to lead you to a title?

 

[tommyGunZ]

If NO would take just Bynum for Paul, I can't see how the Magic could get better than Gasol and Odom for Howard and Turk.

Why in the hell would the Magic want Gasol and Odom?

Because it serves the need of lamer fans to land Paul and Howard. Duh

You guys need to get your arguments straight. A year ago, Gasol was the most "skilled big men in the game", a "HOFer" who Kobe rode to another couple titles. Odom is a versatile 6-10" PF who averages 14 and 9 while shooting 38% from 3 pt land and is the best passing PF in basketball. LOL at the idea that teams wouldn't "want Gasol and Odom".

The problem isn't with their skills, but with that fact that one is 31 and the other is 32 and that the Magic would get no cap relief. At least with Bynum you're getting a youngish C to build around. With those 2 you're getting 2 years or so of top quality basketball while your cap is still tied up for those two years. It does nothing to get them into rebuilding mode. And sure they'd be able to spin those two guys off, but whatever they get will be less (and I can't even figure out an easy place to spin them off to since none of the contenders who make the obvious fits seem to have the young parts) than they'd get for Howard directly from a team like the Clippers or Nets for Howard.

Gasol and Odom allows Orlando to win now it Otis Smith is looking for that. If he wants a building block for the future, the best piece available is Bynum, so the Bynum + Odom for Howard + Arenas or Hedo makes sense. I'm not saying either deal will happen, but I think it's a lot closer than the "LOL at Laker dreamers" crowd is suggesting.

 

[Kiddnets]

If NO would take just Bynum for Paul, I can't see how the Magic could get better than Gasol and Odom for Howard and Turk.

Why in the hell would the Magic want Gasol and Odom?

Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom are bums now?

They would be useless for an Orlando team without Howard.

You guys are going to be extremely disappointed with the return Orlando gets if you think Gasol and Odom are "useless".

Useless on Orlando. Adding those two does not make them a championship caliber team. It makes them probably a 5 seed at best. What good is adding two guys who are 31+ when they are not going to lead you to a title?

Is that package better than Lopez, 2 1st rders and eating Hedo?

 

[Premier]

Come on gunz. Use your brain. Jesus.

 

[boubucarow]

If NO would take just Bynum for Paul, I can't see how the Magic could get better than Gasol and Odom for Howard and Turk.

Why in the hell would the Magic want Gasol and Odom?

Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom are bums now?

They would be useless for an Orlando team without Howard.

You guys are going to be extremely disappointed with the return Orlando gets if you think Gasol and Odom are "useless".

Useless on Orlando. Adding those two does not make them a championship caliber team. It makes them probably a 5 seed at best. What good is adding two guys who are 31+ when they are not going to lead you to a title?

Is that package better than Lopez, 2 1st rders and eating Hedo?

I hate Lopez so I would stay away from any deal involving him. But what if the Bulls actually do offer Noah (26) and Deng (26) along with maybe the conditional Bobcats pick or Asik?

 

[Cliff Clavin]

If NO would take just Bynum for Paul, I can't see how the Magic could get better than Gasol and Odom for Howard and Turk.

Why in the hell would the Magic want Gasol and Odom?

Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom are bums now?

They would be useless for an Orlando team without Howard.

You guys are going to be extremely disappointed with the return Orlando gets if you think Gasol and Odom are "useless".

Useless on Orlando. Adding those two does not make them a championship caliber team. It makes them probably a 5 seed at best. What good is adding two guys who are 31+ when they are not going to lead you to a title?

Is that package better than Lopez, 2 1st rders and eating Hedo?

No doubt I'd rather have the Lopez deal. It still isn't that good though. Those two 1st rounds would be late picks so they will be of little value.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Useless on Orlando. Adding those two does not make them a championship caliber team. It makes them probably a 5 seed at best. What good is adding two guys who are 31+ when they are not going to lead you to a title?

Gasol instantly becomes the best big man in the East if he was dealt for Howard. I'd put Orlando 3rd overall in the East if the trade happened.

 

[Abraham]

The magic can give hedo and reddick to the hawks for joe Johnson. Hawks amnesty hedo. Howard gets a good player next to him. (Simmons thought of that one)I'm hoping the rockets don't do something dumb like give nene a bucket of money. I'd much rather have Jordan at 2/3 the price.

Im pretty sure you can only amnesty your ownm player - cant trade for a player and then amnesty him.

Im 99% sure you can amnesty a traded player.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Useless on Orlando. Adding those two does not make them a championship caliber team. It makes them probably a 5 seed at best. What good is adding two guys who are 31+ when they are not going to lead you to a title?

Gasol instantly becomes the best big man in the East if he was dealt for Howard. I'd put Orlando 3rd overall in the East if the trade happened.

No. Bos, Mia, Chi, Atl and probably Nyk would be better.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Useless on Orlando. Adding those two does not make them a championship caliber team. It makes them probably a 5 seed at best. What good is adding two guys who are 31+ when they are not going to lead you to a title?

Gasol instantly becomes the best big man in the East if he was dealt for Howard. I'd put Orlando 3rd overall in the East if the trade happened.

No. Bos, Mia, Chi, Atl/s] and probably Nyk would be better.

fixeed.

 

[Yo Mama]

The magic can give hedo and reddick to the hawks for joe Johnson. Hawks amnesty hedo. Howard gets a good player next to him. (Simmons thought of that one)I'm hoping the rockets don't do something dumb like give nene a bucket of money. I'd much rather have Jordan at 2/3 the price.

Im pretty sure you can only amnesty your ownm player - cant trade for a player and then amnesty him.

Im 99% sure you can amnesty a traded player.

No, that was just speculation before the deal was done. You can only amnesty players under contract as of 7/1/11 on your own team.

 

[Abraham]

Oh. Thanks for clarifying.

 

[Kiddnets]

If NO would take just Bynum for Paul, I can't see how the Magic could get better than Gasol and Odom for Howard and Turk.

Why in the hell would the Magic want Gasol and Odom?

Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom are bums now?

They would be useless for an Orlando team without Howard.

You guys are going to be extremely disappointed with the return Orlando gets if you think Gasol and Odom are "useless".

Useless on Orlando. Adding those two does not make them a championship caliber team. It makes them probably a 5 seed at best. What good is adding two guys who are 31+ when they are not going to lead you to a title?

Is that package better than Lopez, 2 1st rders and eating Hedo?

No doubt I'd rather have the Lopez deal. It still isn't that good though. Those two 1st rounds would be late picks so they will be of little value.

Nets pick would be in early 20s if deal goes down but GS pick should be in early to mid teens. Not too high on Deng especially with his contract - but Noah would be the player I like the best offered so far.....both Bulls and Nets offers better than what LA could come up with if no Bynum IMO

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Nets pick would be in early 20s if deal goes down but GS pick should be in early to mid teens. Not too high on Deng especially with his contract - but Noah would be the player I like the best offered so far.....both Bulls and Nets offers better than what LA could come up with if no Bynum IMO

I forgot that one pick would be from GS. Is it lottery protected? Noah >>> Bynum. They're about equal in talent but Noah has functioning knees and doesn't act like a 12 year old girl.

 

[Yo Mama]

Oh. Thanks for clarifying.

You know what, I went back to both the Larry Coon ESPN article and the Grantland CBA article and neither one specifically calls out whether traded players are eligible for amnesty, so I could be wrong.

 

[timschochet]

Noah >>> Bynum. They're about equal in talent but Noah has functioning knees and doesn't act like a 12 year old girl.

I suspect this is shtick on your part. In any case, there is not a single NBA general manager who would agree with you. But the bigger point is this: Dwight Howard is the best center in the NBA, and like Shaq 10 years ago, Howard is basically untradeable. There is NO value out there, among the possibles, that would or should please Orlando Magic fans. No matter what, you're going to have a worse team. Premier is absolutely right when he asks, "What good are Gasol and Odom?" The answer is very little. Orlando will be worse than they are now. The problem is, Dwight ain't staying. So it's either trade him for something now, or simply lose him at the end of the year and get nothing in return. Gasol and Odom MAY be as good as you're going to get.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Noah >>> Bynum. They're about equal in talent but Noah has functioning knees and doesn't act like a 12 year old girl.

I suspect this is shtick on your part. In any case, there is not a single NBA general manager who would agree with you.

Could you please link to this? I'm assuming that you aren't just making this up. Thanks.

 

[timschochet]

Noah >>> Bynum. They're about equal in talent but Noah has functioning knees and doesn't act like a 12 year old girl.

I suspect this is shtick on your part. In any case, there is not a single NBA general manager who would agree with you.

Could you please link to this? I'm assuming that you aren't just making this up. Thanks.

I can't link to it. It's strictly my opinion. Sometimes I get tired of having to type "IMO" all the time, but it seems like whenever I don't, I'm immediately asked to provide facts. If you can provide a link to a single NBA general manager who would take Noah over Bynum, then I will be proven unequivocally wrong in my assumption.

 

[the moops]

The problem is, Dwight ain't staying.

I think this is far from settled

 

[Premier]

The problem is, Dwight ain't staying.

I think this is far from settled

Exactly. I love how Tim has this insider info. Espn isn't always right, guy.