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[EYLive]

Does the Big 3 on Miami have vision problems? Halfway through the season Wade, Bosch and James all started wearing Marty McFly glasses after the games.

They're dumb jocks. So they try to look smart by wearing glasses, which makes them look even dumber.

 

[bryhamm]

Bummer of a loss. But this team looked liked it was gased in the second half.

Game two will be a lot different. I also think you will see Lebron be a lot more aggresive as well as Wade. Bosh needs to play better too. If we were not so hot from 3pt land in the first half this could have easily been a OKC blow out. The Heat again is IMO in another must win position. They can't go down 2-0 and have a realistic shot at this thing.

Each game is a chapter. And every chapter is going to be different.

On to game 2.

ah, so you listened to Mike and Mike this morning.

 

[tommyGunZ]

LeBron: "We have to get more guys in there to give me and D-Wade rest."

Sounds just like something Larry or Magic would have said in a presser after a Finals loss.

Lebron 46 minWade 42 min

Durant 46min

Westbrook 42 min

What a whiny #####

LeBron's usage rate was 34.9%, well higher than Durant's and higher even than PG Westbrook's. And in any event, I assume it was more of a generic statement about the last week or two of basketball. What's more, he's probably right- you can't play the minutes he's been playing the last few weeks without risking a performance drop, even if his hasn't really dropped off yet. Every team in the NBA steals a couple minutes rest for their stars in virtually every game, there's a reason for it.No idea why people feel the need to parse every word out of his mouth like it's a Supreme Court decision. Take it easy, folks.

NO MORE QUOTING NBA PLAYERS AFTER NBA GAMES!

Quote them all you want, some of them are funny as hell, including one from a star in another sport last night. Acting like they're some window into the player's heart and soul is really stupid, though. Just my opinion.

What an exciting time for Nats fans. I really wish DC had baseball when I was there. Going to be an awesome late summer in DC if they continue to play this well. The decision on Strasburg will be an interesting one.

 

[Moe.]

There's been lots of discussion on simulation during the postseason. I'm interested to see what kind of a solution the NBA is able to come up with. Stern had some pretty strong comments about it yesterday, the competition committee is going to address it in a meeting later this month. Link to TrueHoop.

 

[EYLive]

There's been lots of discussion on simulation during the postseason. I'm interested to see what kind of a solution the NBA is able to come up with. Stern had some pretty strong comments about it yesterday, the competition committee is going to address it in a meeting later this month. Link to TrueHoop.

NBA refs suck too much to differenciate flops and fouls. The league should just allow more physical play so refs will need to call fewer fouls. That way, floppers would only hurt their own team.

 

[Pick]

Chalmers must be a real DB or something. The refs don't give him any slack.

Westbrook is a prissy #####. I think I'm gonna cheer against OKC just because of him.

Ibaka looked pretty sweet on that drive.

 

[Moe.]

There's been lots of discussion on simulation during the postseason. I'm interested to see what kind of a solution the NBA is able to come up with. Stern had some pretty strong comments about it yesterday, the competition committee is going to address it in a meeting later this month. Link to TrueHoop.

NBA refs suck too much to differenciate flops and fouls. The league should just allow more physical play so refs will need to call fewer fouls. That way, floppers would only hurt their own team.

The refs are certainly put in a very difficult position. Without the benefit of slow-motion replay I'm not sure it's possible to tell what's a flop and what's a foul in certain situations. Sounds like Stern is serious about cracking down so we'll see what they try to do about it.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

I'm going to re-stoke an old fire here:

Any team from the 80's would be lucky to win one game in a best-of-7 series against either of these teams. There just wasn't anything like Russell Westbrook or LeBron James in the 80's.

 

[Ghost Rider]

If the Thunder go up 2-0, the Heat have a long way to go to climb back, especially in the 2-3-2 format. Hard to imagine the Heat taking three straight from a team this good even in Miami, and anything less sends the series back to Oklahoma with the Thunder needing only to get one win in two home games to win the title.

Isn't that what everyone said last round when the Spurs went up 2-0, that there was no way the Thunder could win 4 of 5 from a team that had won 20 in a row?

Yup. Still not sure how they did it.But my point was that the 2-3-2 makes it seem even tougher psychologically, even though obviously it's the same number of games at each site. In the usual format they'd have that Game 6 at home waiting for them out there as a reward for extending the series, which means if they get to 2-2 the worst they can do is have a home game for the chance to get to Game 7. In this format, if they lose tomorrow they either have to win three straight from the Thunder and steal one in OKC, or win two straight on the road in OKC.

I know it's technically all the same, but those options just sounds like a tremendous uphill battle.

I hear what you're saying, and it has a lot of merit. I just think it is dangerous to overreact to one game. OKC is gonna be extremely difficult to beat, which the Heat can do, but Wade has to start showing up for whole games, Bosh needs to start and contribute more (and stop shooting 3s), and the supporting cast needs to contribute a little.

There's been lots of discussion on simulation during the postseason. I'm interested to see what kind of a solution the NBA is able to come up with. Stern had some pretty strong comments about it yesterday, the competition committee is going to address it in a meeting later this month. Link to TrueHoop.

NBA refs suck too much to differenciate flops and fouls. The league should just allow more physical play so refs will need to call fewer fouls. That way, floppers would only hurt their own team.

The problem often times, from what I've seen, is that a player will commit a foul against another, and the player fouled flops to make it look worse than it was, so while it was a foul, the flop then gives the impression that the foul was much harder or blatant than it really was, making many think that the flop was the only reason the foul was called.

 

[Moe.]

I'm going to re-stoke an old fire here:Any team from the 80's would be lucky to win one game in a best-of-7 series against either of these teams. There just wasn't anything like Russell Westbrook or LeBron James in the 80's.

I dunno. Is a guy like Dennis Johnson capable of guarding Westbrook? To flip that around, who on the Heat/Thunder is going to guard McHale down low?

 

[Good Posting Judge]

I'm going to re-stoke an old fire here:Any team from the 80's would be lucky to win one game in a best-of-7 series against either of these teams. There just wasn't anything like Russell Westbrook or LeBron James in the 80's.

I dunno. Is a guy like Dennis Johnson capable of guarding Westbrook? To flip that around, who on the Heat/Thunder is going to guard McHale down low?

McHale is small and slow by today's standards. He'd have a hard time getting position to begin with.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Link

 

[tommyGunZ]

I'm going to re-stoke an old fire here:Any team from the 80's would be lucky to win one game in a best-of-7 series against either of these teams. There just wasn't anything like Russell Westbrook or LeBron James in the 80's.

I dunno. Is a guy like Dennis Johnson capable of guarding Westbrook? To flip that around, who on the Heat/Thunder is going to guard McHale down low?

The Thunder have McHale in this series. His name is Nick Collison.

 

[tommyGunZ]

I'm going to re-stoke an old fire here:Any team from the 80's would be lucky to win one game in a best-of-7 series against either of these teams. There just wasn't anything like Russell Westbrook or LeBron James in the 80's.

Pretty much. Today's athletes are just so much better than NBA athletes 25 years ago. Put Westbrook in the NBA in 85 when there were no zone defenses and he'd average 35 ppg.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

I'm going to re-stoke an old fire here:Any team from the 80's would be lucky to win one game in a best-of-7 series against either of these teams. There just wasn't anything like Russell Westbrook or LeBron James in the 80's.

Pretty much. Today's athletes are just so much better than NBA athletes 25 years ago. Put Westbrook in the NBA in 85 when there were no zone defenses and he'd average 35 ppg.

More like 350 ppg.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

I'm going to re-stoke an old fire here:Any team from the 80's would be lucky to win one game in a best-of-7 series against either of these teams. There just wasn't anything like Russell Westbrook or LeBron James in the 80's.

Pretty much. Today's athletes are just so much better than NBA athletes 25 years ago. Put Westbrook in the NBA in 85 when there were no zone defenses and he'd average 35 ppg.

More like 350 ppg.

"Wait...does everyone from the future dress like a nerd?"

 

[Moe.]

I'm going to re-stoke an old fire here:Any team from the 80's would be lucky to win one game in a best-of-7 series against either of these teams. There just wasn't anything like Russell Westbrook or LeBron James in the 80's.

Pretty much. Today's athletes are just so much better than NBA athletes 25 years ago. Put Westbrook in the NBA in 85 when there were no zone defenses and he'd average 35 ppg.

Wasn't the game much more physical back then? Would Westbrook be able to make it through an entire season without somebody creaming him on the way to the basket and causing a serious injury?Comparing athletes across eras is pretty stupid, but where is the dividing line? Do you think the same thing about the Bulls teams from the early 90s? Jordan's first championship team is hardly from a different era than the late 80s Celtics/Lakers teams, they are just a few years apart.

 

[Apple Juice]

I'm going to re-stoke an old fire here:Any team from the 80's would be lucky to win one game in a best-of-7 series against either of these teams. There just wasn't anything like Russell Westbrook or LeBron James in the 80's.

The majority of people think teams from the 80's would smoke today's teams, and it just blows my mind. Nostalgia is a powerful thing.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I'm going to re-stoke an old fire here:Any team from the 80's would be lucky to win one game in a best-of-7 series against either of these teams. There just wasn't anything like Russell Westbrook or LeBron James in the 80's.

Pretty much. Today's athletes are just so much better than NBA athletes 25 years ago. Put Westbrook in the NBA in 85 when there were no zone defenses and he'd average 35 ppg.

Wasn't the game much more physical back then? Would Westbrook be able to make it through an entire season without somebody creaming on the way to the basket and causing a serious injury?Comparing athletes across eras is pretty stupid, but where is the dividing line? Do you think the same thing about the Bulls teams from the early 90s? Jordan first championship team is hardly from a different era than the late 80s Celtics/Lakers teams, they are just a few years apart.

mahorn and laimbeer would have these nerdy punks crying after exactly 1 drive to the hoop.who could stop isiah thomas? put rodman on durant and/or lebron. Would they even bother covering Joe dumars or laimbeer from deep? And the pistons arent even mentioned as a top 3 team from the era.These teams today wouldnt even make a conference final back then, let alone a finals

 

[Gr00vus]

I'm going to re-stoke an old fire here:

Any team from the 80's would be lucky to win one game in a best-of-7 series against either of these teams. There just wasn't anything like Russell Westbrook or LeBron James in the 80's.

Pretty much. Today's athletes are just so much better than NBA athletes 25 years ago. Put Westbrook in the NBA in 85 when there were no zone defenses and he'd average 35 ppg.

Why do you suppose that is TGunz? Did humanity take a huge evolutionary leap in the last 25 years - or is it more likely that the environment has changed over that span? I'm pretty sure that if players from 25 years ago grew up in the same environment that today's players grew up in, they'd have reaped the same benefits and be just as dominant now as they were in their own era.It's a fruitless comparison, and honestly kind of silly.

 

[the moops]

The Thunder have McHale in this series. His name is Nick Collison.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Why do you suppose that is TGunz? Did humanity take a huge evolutionary leap in the last 25 years - or is it more likely that the environment has changed over that span? I'm pretty sure that if players from 25 years ago grew up in the same environment that today's players grew up in, they'd have reaped the same benefits and be just as dominant now as they were in their own era.It's a fruitless comparison, and honestly kind of silly.

Like was said already, Westbrook wouldn't be so eager to take it to the hoop with reckless abandon after Laimbeer and Mahorn decked him a few times. Plus, back then, you could be more physical and get away with it. Remember McHale flattening Rambis? If that happened today, he'd be called a thug, similar to the treatment Artest got for his elbow to Harden.

 

[tommyGunZ]

I'm going to re-stoke an old fire here:

Any team from the 80's would be lucky to win one game in a best-of-7 series against either of these teams. There just wasn't anything like Russell Westbrook or LeBron James in the 80's.

Pretty much. Today's athletes are just so much better than NBA athletes 25 years ago. Put Westbrook in the NBA in 85 when there were no zone defenses and he'd average 35 ppg.

Why do you suppose that is TGunz? Did humanity take a huge evolutionary leap in the last 25 years - or is it more likely that the environment has changed over that span? I'm pretty sure that if players from 25 years ago grew up in the same environment that today's players grew up in, they'd have reaped the same benefits and be just as dominant now as they were in their own era.It's a fruitless comparison, and honestly kind of silly.

Money and TV. Today's players should have a certain % of their wages garnished, and the proceeds should go to a fund split a few ways: 25% Magic, 25% Bird, 25% Jordan, and 25% to the remaining 70s and 80s era players. Those guys made the game so popular that big money followed, and now kids start weight training and working on fundamentals year round in middle school. The physical difference between players from 80s and today is staggering. And that doesn't even get in to the complexities of today's game compared to the 80s. All of the video analysis, statistical analysis, etc. takes the game to an even greater level.

 

[Gr00vus]

Why do you suppose that is TGunz? Did humanity take a huge evolutionary leap in the last 25 years - or is it more likely that the environment has changed over that span? I'm pretty sure that if players from 25 years ago grew up in the same environment that today's players grew up in, they'd have reaped the same benefits and be just as dominant now as they were in their own era.It's a fruitless comparison, and honestly kind of silly.

Like was said already, Westbrook wouldn't be so eager to take it to the hoop with reckless abandon after Laimbeer and Mahorn decked him a few times. Plus, back then, you could be more physical and get away with it. Remember McHale flattening Rambis? If that happened today, he'd be called a thug, similar to the treatment Artest got for his elbow to Harden.

What you say is true (except for Garnett, somehow he still manages to get away with all kinds of dirty #### and not get called for but a fraction of it). I was actually agreeing that today's guys are bigger/stronger/faster, but that's its due to environmental changes (improvements in sports science/nutrition/training/medication/healing/recovery/technology, the huge rise of AAU, bigger budgets for BBal programs across the country, etc.) not genetic ones, and that the guys playing 25 years ago would have benefited from all that to the same extent that today's players do. Thus I'm pretty sure they'd be just as dominant now as they were then.

 

[Raider Nation]

 

[Moe.]

Why do you suppose that is TGunz? Did humanity take a huge evolutionary leap in the last 25 years - or is it more likely that the environment has changed over that span? I'm pretty sure that if players from 25 years ago grew up in the same environment that today's players grew up in, they'd have reaped the same benefits and be just as dominant now as they were in their own era.It's a fruitless comparison, and honestly kind of silly.

Like was said already, Westbrook wouldn't be so eager to take it to the hoop with reckless abandon after Laimbeer and Mahorn decked him a few times. Plus, back then, you could be more physical and get away with it. Remember McHale flattening Rambis? If that happened today, he'd be called a thug, similar to the treatment Artest got for his elbow to Harden.

What you say is true (except for Garnett, somehow he still manages to get away with all kinds of dirty #### and not get called for but a fraction of it). I was actually agreeing that today's guys are bigger/stronger/faster, but that's its due to environmental changes (improvements in sports science/nutrition/training/medication/healing/recovery/technology, the huge rise of AAU, bigger budgets for BBal programs across the country, etc.) not genetic ones, and that the guys playing 25 years ago would have benefited from all that to the same extent that today's players do. Thus I'm pretty sure they'd be just as dominant now as they were then.

I think you'd be very hard-pressed to find someone that disagrees with any of that. I don't want to speak for them but I'm assuming GPJ and Tommy are assuming they're brought to the future (or visc versa) in a time machine.

 

[Abraham]

It's amazing to me how much people forget how good some of the players of yesteryear were. Ok, lebron on magic (wash), wade on worthy (wash) and Joel Anthony on Kareem? With spo matching up against Riley? Yeah, they would turn out great for miami.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

It's amazing to me how much people forget how good some of the players of yesteryear were. Ok, lebron on magic (wash), wade on worthy (wash) and Joel Anthony on Kareem? With spo matching up against Riley? Yeah, they would turn out great for miami.

Guys in the 80's wanted more minutes, not less. PS= Kevin McHale would demolish these punks.

 

[Abraham]

Agree completely on mchale. How many big men right now have actual offensive moved? Bosh has a couple. Duncan has a ton. But the rest ((Bynum, Blake, Howard, horford) are more athletic than skilled. Mchale had half a dozen go to moves.

As for defense, he could single cover anyone down low as well as any in league history.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

they can be better athletes all they want, the better basketball players were from that era, not now.

Plus the great teams of that era where alot deeper and played alot better together.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

they can be better athletes all they want, the better basketball players were from that era, not now.

Plus the great teams of that era where alot deeper and played alot better together.

Big 3 <<<< 5-8 and this playoff series is going to be the proof.

 

[Short Corner]

I'm going to re-stoke an old fire here:Any team from the 80's would be lucky to win one game in a best-of-7 series against either of these teams. There just wasn't anything like Russell Westbrook or LeBron James in the 80's.

I dunno. Is a guy like Dennis Johnson capable of guarding Westbrook? To flip that around, who on the Heat/Thunder is going to guard McHale down low?

The Thunder have McHale in this series. His name is Nick Collison.

Pretty ####ty comparison. Collison is getting his looks off of slips and dumps to the short corner when his man hedges. McHale had probably the best back to the basket game ever and demanded double teams on post isos.

 

[thecatch]

Agree completely on mchale. How many big men right now have actual offensive moved? Bosh has a couple. Duncan has a ton. But the rest ((Bynum, Blake, Howard, horford) are more athletic than skilled. Mchale had half a dozen go to moves. As for defense, he could single cover anyone down low as well as any in league history.

More rcently an old Divac and a broken Sabonis had their moments against Shaq in his prime. A guy with great post moves doesn't need to be a physical freak to have some success.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Agree completely on mchale. How many big men right now have actual offensive moved? Bosh has a couple. Duncan has a ton. But the rest ((Bynum, Blake, Howard, horford) are more athletic than skilled. Mchale had half a dozen go to moves.

As for defense, he could single cover anyone down low as well as any in league history.

More rcently an old Divac and a broken Sabonis had their moments against Shaq in his prime. A guy with great post moves doesn't need to be a physical freak to have some success.

If not for alcohol and playing most of his career in Europe, he would have been a phenomenal big man and likely a HOFer.

 

[Gr00vus]

Agree completely on mchale. How many big men right now have actual offensive moved? Bosh has a couple. Duncan has a ton. But the rest ((Bynum, Blake, Howard, horford) are more athletic than skilled. Mchale had half a dozen go to moves.

As for defense, he could single cover anyone down low as well as any in league history.

More rcently an old Divac and a broken Sabonis had their moments against Shaq in his prime. A guy with great post moves doesn't need to be a physical freak to have some success.

If not for alcohol and playing most of his career in Europe, he would have been a phenomenal big man and likely a HOFer.

Dude had skills. And he was huge (compared to everyone but Shaq). I think playing against Shaq ultimately broke his brain.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

More rcently an old Divac and a broken Sabonis had their moments against Shaq in his prime. A guy with great post moves doesn't need to be a physical freak to have some success.

If not for alcohol and playing most of his career in Europe, he would have been a phenomenal big man and likely a HOFer.

A bold statement, especially considering Sabonis was inducted into the Hall of Fame last year.

 

[Raider Nation]

Dream Team special wednesday at 9pm. Dvr is set.

BUMP for the reminder. This should be awesome. I hear they focus on MJ's "him or me" threat with regard to Zeke making the roster.

 

[Gr00vus]

So what adjustments can Miami make here besides playing Bosh more minutes?

They've got to figure out how to deal with the screens OKC set to shake Durant loose in the 2nd half last night.

Wade's got to be more efficient on offense. I know his knee is probably hindering that a decent amount.

Whether Spoelstra has been unable or the players have been unwilling to instigate anything like plays, I think Miami's lack of a structured offense is going to finally keep them from winning a series. OKC is too good at scoring to throw possessions away due to your offense not getting you good looks. I think 3 of the Heat wins in the playoffs have come in games where their opponent scored over 90, 1 where their opponent scored over 100. I don't know that they'll be able to keep OKC under 90 4 of the next 6, so they'll have to get better on offense.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Dream Team special wednesday at 9pm. Dvr is set.

BUMP for the reminder. This should be awesome. I hear they focus on MJ's "him or me" threat with regard to Zeke making the roster.

LOL, I almost forgot about that, really pissed Jordan off that the bad boys owned him for years. Awwwwwww

 

[Redwes25]

So what adjustments can Miami make here besides playing Bosh more minutes?They've got to figure out how to deal with the screens OKC set to shake Durant loose in the 2nd half last night.Wade's got to be more efficient on offense. I know his knee is probably hindering that a decent amount.Whether Spoelstra has been unable or the players have been unwilling to instigate anything like plays, I think Miami's lack of a structured offense is going to finally keep them from winning a series. OKC is too good at scoring to throw possessions away due to your offense not getting you good looks. I think 3 of the Heat wins in the playoffs have come in games where their opponent scored over 90, 1 where their opponent scored over 100. I don't know that they'll be able to keep OKC under 90 4 of the next 6, so they'll have to get better on offense.

Put Lebron on Durant and not guarding a big. He is the only player they can have that can physically match up to Durant and one of the better defenders in the league. On offense I would try to run some sets through Bosh in the low post, which they have never run with any consistency since the three of them have been put together. Bosh taking threes is exactly what OKC wants and feeds into their fast break offense. I do agree their biggest issues is on offense as pure ISOs (which is what the second half looked like) won't cut it.

 

[Gr00vus]

Put Lebron on Durant and not guarding a big. He is the only player they can have that can physically match up to Durant and one of the better defenders in the league.

I think OKC's picks would still shed LeBron enough to spring Durant, maybe not as often, but enough. LeBron isn't going to be able to win the series on his own this time.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Dream Team special wednesday at 9pm. Dvr is set.

BUMP for the reminder. This should be awesome. I hear they focus on MJ's "him or me" threat with regard to Zeke making the roster.

LOL, I almost forgot about that, really pissed Jordan off that the bad boys owned him for years. Awwwwwww

Or that Isiah went past the point of "tough nosed play" to being downright despicable.Reports stated several other non-Bull players also wanted nothing to do with Isiah.

 

[Raider Nation]

Dream Team special wednesday at 9pm. Dvr is set.

BUMP for the reminder. This should be awesome. I hear they focus on MJ's "him or me" threat with regard to Zeke making the roster.

LOL, I almost forgot about that, really pissed Jordan off that the bad boys owned him for years. Awwwwwww

Or that Isiah went past the point of "tough nosed play" to being downright despicable.

I think it started when Thomas organized the 'freeze-out' during the All-Star game Jordan's rookie year.

 

[Redwes25]

Put Lebron on Durant and not guarding a big. He is the only player they can have that can physically match up to Durant and one of the better defenders in the league.

I think OKC's picks would still shed LeBron enough to spring Durant, maybe not as often, but enough. LeBron isn't going to be able to win the series on his own this time.

You are never going to stop Durant but the should be using their best players to slow him down.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Dream Team special wednesday at 9pm. Dvr is set.

BUMP for the reminder. This should be awesome. I hear they focus on MJ's "him or me" threat with regard to Zeke making the roster.

LOL, I almost forgot about that, really pissed Jordan off that the bad boys owned him for years. Awwwwwww

Or that Isiah went past the point of "tough nosed play" to being downright despicable.Reports stated several other non-Bull players also wanted nothing to do with Isiah.

awww. IIR didnt Isiah do some kind of freeze out at the all star game or something? LOL. all part of the pistons plan to get in his head, it worked, the NBA should thank them for making jordan the beast he became

 

[Gr00vus]

Put Lebron on Durant and not guarding a big. He is the only player they can have that can physically match up to Durant and one of the better defenders in the league.

I think OKC's picks would still shed LeBron enough to spring Durant, maybe not as often, but enough. LeBron isn't going to be able to win the series on his own this time.

You are never going to stop Durant but the should be using their best players to slow him down.

I agree, LeBron should be covering Durant (or maybe Westbrook) as much as possible, but they'll still need a plan B when switches, etc. happen. OKC was running a nice offense there in the 2nd half, if the Miami answer is just hope LeBron sticks Durant as much as he can, I think Miami's fuxxored - OKC isn't going to just stand around and let it happen.

 

[Moe.]

Why Did the Heat Abandon Their Game Plan on Defense?

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Why Did the Heat Abandon Their Game Plan on Defense?

Good read.Was it a bigger deal for the Heat that their defense declined in the 2nd half or that their offense struggled? Or did their offense struggle because they rely on the defense to start it.

 

[Raider Nation]

Sad to see these guys so old now. Especially Bobby Hurley. I'll always see him as a 20-year-old. Now he's all grey.

:(

Laettner: "I felt like, man... I cannot believe I'm a part of this practice."

Nobody else could either, Chrissy.

 

[Premier]

This narrator is really bad.