Craig_MiamiFL
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Too weak in the backcourt to take the Heat. W/o Rondo, still looking at hero ball with Melo.
Too weak in the backcourt to take the Heat. W/o Rondo, still looking at hero ball with Melo.
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Wu-banger
Footballguy
Play KG at the 4 and start Tyson Chandler while sliding Melo and Paul Pierce to the 2 and 3....
That team could run with the Heat adding the defensive ability to protect the rim and allows Garnett to play the foul line and pass to the shooters .
The bench is ridiculous obviously , still would be a great series and I'm still not sure they would beat the Heat.
That team could run with the Heat adding the defensive ability to protect the rim and allows Garnett to play the foul line and pass to the shooters .
The bench is ridiculous obviously , still would be a great series and I'm still not sure they would beat the Heat.
Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
God, the Knicks can't do anything easily
This is embarassing
This is embarassing
Agreed. KG and Chandler would be a dominant defensive duo. Without Rondo, I'd take Miami, but if he's playing all bets are off.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Barnes is freakin unconscious.
scoobus
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Ridiculously ticky-tack foul on Grant Hill. Refs getting paid by the whistle tonight.
Abraham
Footballguy
Am I the only hold up? Sorry, I have not been paying attention. Ill try and get to it this weekend.
sporthenry
Footballguy
I can't watch that game anymore. 52 fouls. That is ridiculous.
They've been strictly calling moving screens all night. At least they've been consistent.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
I get the spirit of it, but use common sense. He's 75' from the basket and he barely breathed on the guy.
In a vacuum, I agree, but they've been getting screeners for moving even a little bit all night, and Hill moved. This isn't an easy game to ref so I don't blame them for policing some basics. In related news, grant hill having a very forgettable last game of his career.
sporthenry
Footballguy
Well he is an idiot if he signs one of those contracts after opting out. Not sure why he is opting out when he is only 29 years old and probably won't be a max guy again. I guess he thinks he can get a near max deal for 4-6 years.
But take your deals, he could have just played this year out at 16. Then you are saying he'd only want a 2 year 20 mill contract at 30 years old? Or a 4 year 34 million? So I'd expect him to sign for something in the 13-15 million range for 3-5 years. He ain't worth it but someone will give it to him. He is just one of those guys who will always be on mediocre teams like a Joe Johnson because they are good enough to command a lot of money but aren't good enough when you consider he makes similar money to Rose or Manu.
scoobus
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So yah..... Chris Paul is a #####... Blake griffin is soft..... Bring on the mother####ing thunder. Yes I'm drunk... Down at blue monkey by the arena... Lots of folks here singing "nana.. Goodbye"
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Opt out is absolutely the right move for Iguodala. Weak FA group (Dwight/Paul going nowhere IMO) and still under 30. May not get the max, but should get $15+mil/yr.
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Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Most productive thing Perkins did that series was pushups.
What a useless sack of crap to lose Harden for.
What a useless sack of crap to lose Harden for.
sporthenry
Footballguy
Kev4029
Footballguy
He can only get a 5 year deal from Denver, no sign and trade or any other means for him to get that anywhere else. Deals for 6 years no longer exist. Like Craig said, guys of his talent usually end up on bad teams because they chase the money to some team that needs to spend their free cap space on a player that is tempting for the money. If Iguodala wants to play for a good team, Denver is the right choice but he is going to have to take a bit of a discount to play here. Spending $15M a year on him on a 4 or 5 year deal will not happen in Denver.
sporthenry
Footballguy
Well the fact he is opting out seems to indicate he just cares about money at this point and not winning. And if he cares about going to a good team, there seem to be better teams he could go to. Denver might be a little bit of both in terms of paying him well and providing a winning team but if he wants to get out of the first round and go to a title contender, Denver ain't it.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Joey Crawford is getting destroyed in the Twitter-verse.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
sporthenry
Footballguy
When you know the ref's names, that usually means it is time to hang it up b/c they make a spectacle out of themselves. Joey Crawford and Joe West and to a lesser extent, Ed Hochuli have all made the game more about them.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Are you old enough to remember AL umpire Ron Luciano? He was the first "LOOK AT ME!!!" official I recall. He was a boob.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
As an umpire he was known for his flamboyant calls, particularly his habit of "shooting out" players. "My personal record is 16 shots," he wrote. "Bill Haller counted them."One night Luciano gave an "out" sign at home plate by pumping his right hand a dozen times. "I was so carried away that I never saw the ball rolling to the backstop," he later said. 
"Fortunately, someone pointed to the loose ball and I changed my call."In addition to making theatrical events of routine outs, he was considered an "individualist" who played fast and loose with the league's rules of conduct. For example, rather than working from behind second base as mandated by the American League, he would frequently stand between the pitcher and the base, National League-style. He would routinely converse with players during between-inning breaks and even during play, a practice strictly forbidden by the league. In 1973 during spring training, he switched positions with Buddy Bell, playing a portion of an inning at third base while Bell umpired. (Both were reprimanded by the league.)
"Fortunately, someone pointed to the loose ball and I changed my call."In addition to making theatrical events of routine outs, he was considered an "individualist" who played fast and loose with the league's rules of conduct. For example, rather than working from behind second base as mandated by the American League, he would frequently stand between the pitcher and the base, National League-style. He would routinely converse with players during between-inning breaks and even during play, a practice strictly forbidden by the league. In 1973 during spring training, he switched positions with Buddy Bell, playing a portion of an inning at third base while Bell umpired. (Both were reprimanded by the league.)Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Espn is such a joke. They talk the last 2 days about the celtics and Knicks like last night was game 7 and were making a huge deal that there were 4 game 6s last night. While failing to mention that the thunder were in the same scenario as the Knicks. I'm glad there's no game 7s from last night so we don't have to hear more manufactured stories today.
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Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Spurs in 6.
When Jack walks this summer, it'll be good to keep in mind that the Warriors needlessly traded for an extra year of washed-up SF when they flipped Jackson for Jefferson.
When Jack walks this summer, it'll be good to keep in mind that the Warriors needlessly traded for an extra year of washed-up SF when they flipped Jackson for Jefferson.
Kev4029
Footballguy
That was an awful trade at the time, Jackson is/was the better player, he was getting paid less per year plus his contract was a year shorter. One of the less sensible trades I can remember.
sporthenry
Footballguy
They did get Ezeli in that through the draft pick and in briefly watching them, he seems like he could be serviceable going forward.
sjslacker
Footballguy
They also got the Spurs 1st round pick last year which turned out to be Ezeli. I'd say it was worth it.
sporthenry
Footballguy
He dates me by a bit but I believe it was him in some of the footage with Earl Weaver. They seemed like they were fun when you put the two of them on a field.
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Just saw a video on FB from last nights game in Memphis where they got the crowd worked up by playing "whoop that trick" from hustle and flow (shot here)
Trick was, they changed the words to "whoop that clip".... Whole place was in a frenzy with towels spinning and whole audience in unison. Was pretty cool to see IMO.
off to musicfest for some blind Mississippi Morris and black keys.
ETA:
@ DJ qualls in that clip.
Trick was, they changed the words to "whoop that clip".... Whole place was in a frenzy with towels spinning and whole audience in unison. Was pretty cool to see IMO.
off to musicfest for some blind Mississippi Morris and black keys. ETA:
@ DJ qualls in that clip.
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Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
You don't need to take on a bad contract to get the last pick in the first round, it could've been had much more easily. A guaranteed contract for the 30th player off the board is pretty unappetizing.
The Warriors have always done really well with late picks, including Ezeli. But they have no way of knowing they're going to get a good guy there.
Kev4029
Footballguy
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Go Bulls!
(I don't know why I want them to win so bad when they'll just lose in 4 or 5 to the Heat.)
(I don't know why I want them to win so bad when they'll just lose in 4 or 5 to the Heat.)
boubucarow
Footballguy
To hopefully have the team fully healthy (outside of Rip) and see them play the Heat. That is all I want.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Jay-Z can't be pleased.
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