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Adrian Wojarnowski reporting on Twitter that Sacto. has decided on Cousins at #5.

So, if true, the beginning of the draft looks like this:

1. NJ: Wall

2: PHI: Turner

3: NJ: Johnson

4: MIN: Favors

5: SAC: Cousins

GS reportedly has cooled on Monroe, so who knows after that.

 
Adrian Wojarnowski reporting on Twitter that Sacto. has decided on Cousins at #5.So, if true, the beginning of the draft looks like this:1. NJ: Wall2: PHI: Turner3: NJ: Johnson4: MIN: Favors5: SAC: CousinsGS reportedly has cooled on Monroe, so who knows after that.
favors to the nyets, imo.
 
Adrian Wojarnowski reporting on Twitter that Sacto. has decided on Cousins at #5.So, if true, the beginning of the draft looks like this:1. NJ: Wall2: PHI: Turner3: NJ: Johnson4: MIN: Favors5: SAC: CousinsGS reportedly has cooled on Monroe, so who knows after that.
favors to the nyets, imo.
Yeah, seems like they could go any number of ways but media chatter recently has them leaning towards Johnson. Personally, I'd take Favors.Should GS take Monroe? Udoh?
 
Adrian Wojarnowski reporting on Twitter that Sacto. has decided on Cousins at #5.So, if true, the beginning of the draft looks like this:1. NJ: Wall2: PHI: Turner3: NJ: Johnson4: MIN: Favors5: SAC: CousinsGS reportedly has cooled on Monroe, so who knows after that.
favors to the nyets, imo.
Yeah, seems like they could go any number of ways but media chatter recently has them leaning towards Johnson. Personally, I'd take Favors.Should GS take Monroe? Udoh?
Warriors should draft Larry Ellison at #6
 
Adrian Wojarnowski reporting on Twitter that Sacto. has decided on Cousins at #5.So, if true, the beginning of the draft looks like this:1. NJ: Wall2: PHI: Turner3: NJ: Johnson4: MIN: Favors5: SAC: CousinsGS reportedly has cooled on Monroe, so who knows after that.
favors to the nyets, imo.
Yeah, seems like they could go any number of ways but media chatter recently has them leaning towards Johnson. Personally, I'd take Favors.Should GS take Monroe? Udoh?
i would go with monroe because nellie-ball will end with this upcoming season, i think. udoh is a nice player but he's needs some seasoning.
 
Patrick Patterson was the grownup on Kentucky. They played mostly Calipari's freshmen, and Patterson. He's a little small for PF (more Carl Landry than Karl Malone), but he's tough and has a high basketball IQ. He won't create a lot of points on offense, but will keep balls alive and get putbacks. He should be a solid defensive contributor; he can rebound, and should develop into an excellent help defender in the post.
so he's a younger version of udonis haslem...
 
Adrian Wojarnowski reporting on Twitter that Sacto. has decided on Cousins at #5.So, if true, the beginning of the draft looks like this:1. NJ: Wall2: PHI: Turner3: NJ: Johnson4: MIN: Favors5: SAC: CousinsGS reportedly has cooled on Monroe, so who knows after that.
As a kings fan I would love cousins.
 
Patrick Patterson was the grownup on Kentucky. They played mostly Calipari's freshmen, and Patterson. He's a little small for PF (more Carl Landry than Karl Malone), but he's tough and has a high basketball IQ. He won't create a lot of points on offense, but will keep balls alive and get putbacks. He should be a solid defensive contributor; he can rebound, and should develop into an excellent help defender in the post.
so he's a younger version of udonis haslem...
Interesting comparison. DraftExpress ranged Patterson from Kris Humphries to Carl Landry.nbadraft.net comped him to Buck Williams.I think nbad is being a bit too optimistic about Patterson's chances. They think he will be a useful scorer in the post and as the roller on pick-and-rolls.
Buck Williams was a very very good player. He was underrated in his time and is almost forgotten today. I don't think there are any comparables to him in this year's draft class.
 
The top of this draft is Charmin soft. Wes Johnson at #3 overall? Don't know if anyone watched him play at Iowa St or Syracuse, but he is a blend in "star". He does not seem to really want to be the go to guy on his team. When you select someone #3 overall, you are typically thinking you will get a game-changer...a guy who will make a huge impact. He's not that guy.

Wes Johnson has 10/5/3 written all over him.. a nice 4th man on a NBA team... not a top 3 draft pick. The Nets will take Favors if they are smart. Shoot for the stars....

 
Adrian Wojarnowski reporting on Twitter that Sacto. has decided on Cousins at #5.So, if true, the beginning of the draft looks like this:1. NJ: Wall2: PHI: Turner3: NJ: Johnson4: MIN: Favors5: SAC: CousinsGS reportedly has cooled on Monroe, so who knows after that.
Has a trade happened that caused the Wizards to not have the #1 pick anymore?
 
Interesting comparison. DraftExpress ranged Patterson from Kris Humphries to Carl Landry.nbadraft.net comped him to Buck Williams.I think nbad is being a bit too optimistic about Patterson's chances. They think he will be a useful scorer in the post and as the roller on pick-and-rolls.
How do you find the comparisons on DraftExpress?I want to see the player ranges on Lawrence Westbrook.
 
Buck Williams was a very very good player. He was underrated in his time and is almost forgotten today. I don't think there are any comparables to him in this year's draft class.
Williams was a consensus "can't miss" player and ended up grabbing more rebounds than every other player since 1980 except Olajuwon and Karl Malone.
 
Interesting comparison. DraftExpress ranged Patterson from Kris Humphries to Carl Landry.nbadraft.net comped him to Buck Williams.I think nbad is being a bit too optimistic about Patterson's chances. They think he will be a useful scorer in the post and as the roller on pick-and-rolls.
How do you find the comparisons on DraftExpress?I want to see the player ranges on Lawrence Westbrook.
Click on a player's name to pull up their profile. Near the top right, under "MISC", a Best Case and Worst Case player comparison is listed. On Patterson, Best Case is Carl Landry, and Worst Case is Kris Humphries. For John Wall, Best Case is "Russell Westbrook with better court vision" and Worst Case is "6-4 version of Kyle Lowry". DX did not profile Lawrence Westbrook, so no Best/Worst Case for him is listed.
Doesn't Patterson have a little bit of range in his jumper?
 
Interesting comparison. DraftExpress ranged Patterson from Kris Humphries to Carl Landry.nbadraft.net comped him to Buck Williams.I think nbad is being a bit too optimistic about Patterson's chances. They think he will be a useful scorer in the post and as the roller on pick-and-rolls.
How do you find the comparisons on DraftExpress?I want to see the player ranges on Lawrence Westbrook.
Click on a player's name to pull up their profile. Near the top right, under "MISC", a Best Case and Worst Case player comparison is listed. On Patterson, Best Case is Carl Landry, and Worst Case is Kris Humphries. For John Wall, Best Case is "Russell Westbrook with better court vision" and Worst Case is "6-4 version of Kyle Lowry". DX did not profile Lawrence Westbrook, so no Best/Worst Case for him is listed.
Doesn't Patterson have a little bit of range in his jumper?
He does from what I've seen of him. I think he could be effective running the pick and fade at the next level.
 
oneohh said:
Grabbed this from a Cavs board. Portland beater on Kenny Roda radio show (Cleveland).

Mo to Portland doesn't have much legs.Blazers offered Pryzbilla, Batum, Bayless, Andre Miller for Chris Paul.Blazers think they can get good PG with Miller and Pryzbilla expiring.Plan B for the Blazers will be Devin HarrisMo will be a plan C
That's really not too bad an offer for Paul.
Oh no, it's terrible. At least from a talent standpoint. Bayless is nice, Miller's getting near the end, and Batum is a nice role player, and Przybilla's an OK 15 mpg backup, but that doesn't = a young, perennial All-Star PG.
I wonder if they'd offer that to San Antonio for Parker.
Parker is worth nowhere near that price IMO.
 
The top of this draft is Charmin soft. Wes Johnson at #3 overall? Don't know if anyone watched him play at Iowa St or Syracuse, but he is a blend in "star". He does not seem to really want to be the go to guy on his team. When you select someone #3 overall, you are typically thinking you will get a game-changer...a guy who will make a huge impact. He's not that guy.Wes Johnson has 10/5/3 written all over him.. a nice 4th man on a NBA team... not a top 3 draft pick. The Nets will take Favors if they are smart. Shoot for the stars....
Very much agreed. I think he is going to be the bust of the draft. Favors may not be ideal if they are looking to acquire Boozer/Lee/Amare/Bosh but they could run a sick 3 man C/PF rotation.
 
Ferris, Who are our Wolves going to pick if Wes Johnson is not there? Another PF?Thanks, Josh in Seattle
They will probably make a trade. If not the 1.04, then Al Jefferson. If the Wolves make the 1.04 pick and Wes Johnson rally goes 1.03, they will take Favors. MIN didn't bring in Cousins for a workout - they're too scared of his attitude.
I am hoping for the trade.Another PF doesn't make a lot of sense to me. They haven't consulted me though. Wes really would be perfect for them IMO.
 
Ferris,

Who are our Wolves going to pick if Wes Johnson is not there? Another PF?

Thanks,

Josh in Seattle
They will probably make a trade. If not the 1.04, then Al Jefferson. If the Wolves make the 1.04 pick and Wes Johnson rally goes 1.03, they will take Favors. MIN didn't bring in Cousins for a workout - they're too scared of his attitude.
I am hoping for the trade.Another PF doesn't make a lot of sense to me. They haven't consulted me though.



Wes really would be perfect for them IMO.
Personally, and this is a bit of a stretch, but I'd like a Favors & George (#16) pairing. Big Al is gone IMO.
 
Adrian Wojarnowski reporting on Twitter that Sacto. has decided on Cousins at #5.So, if true, the beginning of the draft looks like this:1. NJ: Wall2: PHI: Turner3: NJ: Johnson4: MIN: Favors5: SAC: CousinsGS reportedly has cooled on Monroe, so who knows after that.
favors to the nyets, imo.
Yeah, seems like they could go any number of ways but media chatter recently has them leaning towards Johnson. Personally, I'd take Favors.Should GS take Monroe? Udoh?
Warriors should draft Larry Ellison at #6
YES PLEASE!
 
Adrian Wojarnowski reporting on Twitter that Sacto. has decided on Cousins at #5.So, if true, the beginning of the draft looks like this:1. NJ: Wall2: PHI: Turner3: NJ: Johnson4: MIN: Favors5: SAC: CousinsGS reportedly has cooled on Monroe, so who knows after that.
As a kings fan I would love cousins.
Ditto.He might carry more risk than Monroe or some others, but I think his upside is well worth it. The Kings have some mediocre players, Cousins has a chance to be very good and really help this team (or admittedly really bad if the work ethic isn't there). I think it makes sense for the Kings to swing for the fences with Cousins.
 
Anybody have any opinions or website evaluations of Charles Garcia (Seattle U.)?

I don't really follow the NBA much any more, but I am interested to see if this kid lives up to his potential.

 
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The thought of the Warriors draft Udoh scares me... especially if Monroe is there? Why take a limited 23 year old vs the versatile 20 year old?

 
Ferris,

Who are our Wolves going to pick if Wes Johnson is not there? Another PF?

Thanks,

Josh in Seattle
They will probably make a trade. If not the 1.04, then Al Jefferson. If the Wolves make the 1.04 pick and Wes Johnson rally goes 1.03, they will take Favors. MIN didn't bring in Cousins for a workout - they're too scared of his attitude.
I am hoping for the trade.Another PF doesn't make a lot of sense to me. They haven't consulted me though.



Wes really would be perfect for them IMO.
Personally, and this is a bit of a stretch, but I'd like a Favors & George (#16) pairing. Big Al is gone IMO.
TRE and I are trying to get co-GM responsibilities for the Wolves. If we did, we would try to figure out a way to land Farouq & George. If we could trade with the Pistons, that would be ideal.
 
Ferris,

Who are our Wolves going to pick if Wes Johnson is not there? Another PF?

Thanks,

Josh in Seattle
They will probably make a trade. If not the 1.04, then Al Jefferson. If the Wolves make the 1.04 pick and Wes Johnson rally goes 1.03, they will take Favors. MIN didn't bring in Cousins for a workout - they're too scared of his attitude.
I am hoping for the trade.Another PF doesn't make a lot of sense to me. They haven't consulted me though.



Wes really would be perfect for them IMO.
Personally, and this is a bit of a stretch, but I'd like a Favors & George (#16) pairing. Big Al is gone IMO.
TRE and I are trying to get co-GM responsibilities for the Wolves. If we did, we would try to figure out a way to land Farouq & George. If we could trade with the Pistons, that would be ideal.
Brit:I am shocked and appalled to see you following the NBA closely again.

Too soon...too soon!

 
Chris Broussard over at ESPN says the Bulls could move the #17 pick and Luol Deng for the #8 pick. This deal wouldn't be able to be complete until July 1st, but the thought process is that this would free up the necessary space for Chicago to offer two max deals, something I think they really have to do now if they want to compete with Miami and New York for the top free agents. From the Clipper front, I never completely understand them, but they do have a gaping hole at SF, and don't expect to land one of the top free agents. Deng is a guy who averages 17 and 8 last season, so if you can add him into the mix with Baron Davis, Eric Gordon, Chris Kaman, and Blake Griffin, it's actually, at least on paper, and assuming Baron Davis is interested in playing, a pretty good starting lineup.

Now, ask me if I think this deal, is going to happen, and my best, uneducated answer is that it won't because it's being reported now as a possibility, and I think these reports tend to come out after a deal has been shot down....

 
Bucher reports Luol Deng being offered to free up cap room. :P
The Bulls have been talking to teams about moving Deng or Hinrich, along with the pick. They really need to go all the way with this, in my opinion, and find a way to free up a 2nd max free agency slot. I'm skill skeptical that a trade will be made though.
 
Brit:

I am shocked and appalled to see you following the NBA closely again.

Too soon...too soon!
I am a homeless fan though. : (It's terrible. I'm going to have to adopt the Wolves.
You don't have to - there's always plenty of room for more fans over here on The Dark Side. If Gary Payton and Radmanovic could do it, you can too.
Gary Payton, the greatest Sonic of all-time, never played for the Lakers. I have no idea what you are talking about.
 
Brit:

I am shocked and appalled to see you following the NBA closely again.

Too soon...too soon!
I am a homeless fan though. : (It's terrible. I'm going to have to adopt the Wolves.
You don't have to - there's always plenty of room for more fans over here on The Dark Side. If Gary Payton and Radmanovic could do it, you can too.
Gary Payton, the greatest Sonic of all-time, never played for the Lakers. I have no idea what you are talking about.
He did with Karl Malone in '04.
Nope, he didn't.
 
Brit:

I am shocked and appalled to see you following the NBA closely again.

Too soon...too soon!
I am a homeless fan though. : (It's terrible. I'm going to have to adopt the Wolves.
You don't have to - there's always plenty of room for more fans over here on The Dark Side. If Gary Payton and Radmanovic could do it, you can too.
Gary Payton, the greatest Sonic of all-time, never played for the Lakers. I have no idea what you are talking about.
He did with Karl Malone in '04.
:) :lmao: :lmao:
 
Bucher reports Luol Deng being offered to free up cap room. :lmao:
The Bulls have been talking to teams about moving Deng or Hinrich, along with the pick. They really need to go all the way with this, in my opinion, and find a way to free up a 2nd max free agency slot. I'm skill skeptical that a trade will be made though.
No idea if any team will take on Deng or Hinrich. Deng has 4y/50m left and Hinrich has 2y/17m.
 
From a Raptors beat writer on who they may take at 13:

I’ve got Ekpe Udoh, Cole Aldrich, Paul George and Avery Bradley on it with Eric Bledsoe and Patrick Patterson as longer shots.
I don't know much about these guys other than Cole Aldrich being a big useless white dude. Any of them have potential?
Udoh played for Baylor after transferring out of Michigan. Outstanding shot blocker. He doesn't just try to swat the ball into the stands, either; he tries to block the shot back over the shooter into open space so the guards can get after it and get possession, if not start a fastbreak. He times his jump well and can block with both hands, so IMO he won't be as much of foul magnet right away as a lot of other C/PFs who blocked a lot of shots in college. Aldrich was my favorite player on my favorite college team, but he won't be the best pro from that squad. Aldrich's shot is too mechanical. He will have to rebuild it from scratch if he wants to get a jump shot off against NBA players. He will be able to rebound and defend the post at the next level. His free throw shooting (a long, drawn-out process designed as much to draw lane violations as making free throws) will drive you nuts. Paul George is a SF from Fresno State. He wasn't a big-time HS recruit, didn't play against big-time competition, and didn't play on TV much, so he's sneaking up on a lot of folks. One name floated around as a comp for him is Danny Granger. George split time between PF and SF in college, but will have play SF in the pros. He can jump out of the gym and shoots threes well, but isn't much at creating his own shot. Combine that with a mid-major conference late bloomer, and the comp to Granger makes a lot of sense.Avery Bradley is a combo guard from Texas. He turned pro at least one year too early. More defense than offense. Built like Leo Barbosa - only 6'2"-6'3", but wingspan is like 6'8", so even though he's built like a PG, he could play some SG. Eric Bledsoe was the other elite freshman PG at Kentucky. He was overshadowed by John Wall, but he has NBA PG skills. He's not very bright (his academic qualifications were suspicious, part of the reason why he ended up at UK even with Wall also there), but no doubt he can play. He's a decent risk late in the first round because he will either be a starting PG or out of the league in two years with no waiting around to see if he can develop, but might be a little bit of a reach at TOR's pick.Patrick Patterson was the grownup on Kentucky. They played mostly Calipari's freshmen, and Patterson. He's a little small for PF (more Carl Landry than Karl Malone), but he's tough and has a high basketball IQ. He won't create a lot of points on offense, but will keep balls alive and get putbacks. He should be a solid defensive contributor; he can rebound, and should develop into an excellent help defender in the post.
:confused:Thank you very much.
 
Bucher reports Luol Deng being offered to free up cap room. :unsure:
The Bulls have been talking to teams about moving Deng or Hinrich, along with the pick. They really need to go all the way with this, in my opinion, and find a way to free up a 2nd max free agency slot. I'm skill skeptical that a trade will be made though.
No idea if any team will take on Deng or Hinrich. Deng has 4y/50m left and Hinrich has 2y/17m.
Kirk Hinrch at 2/17 is not a bad deal. He is a good player who can play and defend both guard positions.
 
Bucher reports Luol Deng being offered to free up cap room. :unsure:
The Bulls have been talking to teams about moving Deng or Hinrich, along with the pick. They really need to go all the way with this, in my opinion, and find a way to free up a 2nd max free agency slot. I'm skill skeptical that a trade will be made though.
No idea if any team will take on Deng or Hinrich. Deng has 4y/50m left and Hinrich has 2y/17m.
Kirk Hinrch at 2/17 is not a bad deal. He is a good player who can play and defend both guard positions.
I would actually hope to keep him. He can allow Rose to rest on defense and also fight with bigger guards. He could also become a more consistent three point threat if another ball handler is added and he doesn't need to concentrate on that part of his game.
 

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