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not a wolves homer, but I don't see the upside for them there.
grossly overpaying for turner, imo.
That would be horrid trade for the Wolves.
I'm not a T-wolves fan but the deal makes no sense for them. Brand and Jefferson have the same number of contract years remaining and Brand's salary is the higher of the two. It would only be justifiable if Rubio was a lost cause but I don't think David Kahn is ready to give up yet. He's invested in Rubio and needs to wait it out until the CBA gets clearer or 2012.
Gross is right.
Perkins is a nice role player on a good team, but he's out until around the all star break with that leg injury. I wouldn't trade for a guy who could be damaged goods.
I think moving either is a long-shot. Neither are bad players, just their contracts are pretty big.No idea if any team will take on Deng or Hinrich. Deng has 4y/50m left and Hinrich has 2y/17m.The Bulls have been talking to teams about moving Deng or Hinrich, along with the pick. They really need to go all the way with this, in my opinion, and find a way to free up a 2nd max free agency slot. I'm skill skeptical that a trade will be made though.Bucher reports Luol Deng being offered to free up cap room.
Bosh and Turkoglu for Deng, Hinrich, Gibson + Picks. Toronto: Gets rid of Turk's horrible contract and play.Get a good young player in GibsonFill a need for the SF and PF position. Getting Hinrich allows them to move Jack or JoseBulls:BoshNot the greatest return for Bosh but it gets rid of Turk and would get a good young player in return.Sure he is. Who in the right mind would want Luol Deng at his salary? Decent player, but not worth even close to 10MM+ a year.Bucher reports Luol Deng being offered to free up cap room.
I plan on having a computer next to me so that I have all the rumors, and ordering some Chinese food about 1/2 hour from the start. Very exciting night.
He is the reason the Bulls don't have Kobe.Sure he is. Who in the right mind would want Luol Deng at his salary? Decent player, but not worth even close to 10MM+ a year.Bucher reports Luol Deng being offered to free up cap room.
There are conflicting rumors about that - 1) Some say Kobe to the Bulls was never close, others say it was extremely close....2) Some say the Bulls refused to move Deng, other rumors say that Kobe didn't want Deng moved because he wanted pieces left on the team that he could win with.He is the reason the Bulls don't have Kobe.Sure he is. Who in the right mind would want Luol Deng at his salary? Decent player, but not worth even close to 10MM+ a year.Bucher reports Luol Deng being offered to free up cap room.
I'm pretty sure I'm going. I need to go to Natomas tonight anyways and they arw giving you a free ticket to a game if you show up.
I like it. Raptors have to get involved in a sign and trade for Bosh. If they don't it will set back their franchise for years. I think he follows Lebron, so if he goes to NY, Toronto is screwed.Bosh and Turkoglu for Deng, Hinrich, Gibson + Picks. Toronto: Gets rid of Turk's horrible contract and play.Get a good young player in GibsonFill a need for the SF and PF position. Getting Hinrich allows them to move Jack or JoseBulls:BoshNot the greatest return for Bosh but it gets rid of Turk and would get a good young player in return.Sure he is. Who in the right mind would want Luol Deng at his salary? Decent player, but not worth even close to 10MM+ a year.Bucher reports Luol Deng being offered to free up cap room.
Not getting anything >>> Lee, Bandaid Bynum or BeasleyI like it. Raptors have to get involved in a sign and trade for Bosh. If they don't it will set back their franchise for years. I think he follows Lebron, so if he goes to NY, Toronto is screwed.Bosh and Turkoglu for Deng, Hinrich, Gibson + Picks. Toronto:Sure he is. Who in the right mind would want Luol Deng at his salary? Decent player, but not worth even close to 10MM+ a year.Bucher reports Luol Deng being offered to free up cap room.
Gets rid of Turk's horrible contract and play.
Get a good young player in Gibson
Fill a need for the SF and PF position.
Getting Hinrich allows them to move Jack or Jose
Bulls:
Bosh
Not the greatest return for Bosh but it gets rid of Turk and would get a good young player in return.
Why? If you would rather have cap room than Bynum you are crazy. No one wants to go to Toronto and Bynum is a perfect player for them. Sure its a risk with his knee, but its worth it for a franchise who can only improve via trades and draft.Not getting anything >>> Lee, Bandaid Bynum or BeasleyI like it. Raptors have to get involved in a sign and trade for Bosh. If they don't it will set back their franchise for years. I think he follows Lebron, so if he goes to NY, Toronto is screwed.Bosh and Turkoglu for Deng, Hinrich, Gibson + Picks. Toronto:Sure he is. Who in the right mind would want Luol Deng at his salary? Decent player, but not worth even close to 10MM+ a year.Bucher reports Luol Deng being offered to free up cap room.
Gets rid of Turk's horrible contract and play.
Get a good young player in Gibson
Fill a need for the SF and PF position.
Getting Hinrich allows them to move Jack or Jose
Bulls:
Bosh
Not the greatest return for Bosh but it gets rid of Turk and would get a good young player in return.
NICE. Have fun if you attend tonight.Are you still thinking Cousins is the pick (if he is available)? This is still my hunch/feeling, but you never know with Petrie.And any clue on a couple of the guys Sac will be looking at in rd 2 potentially?
BOLD PREDICTION: The Rockets offer the 14, Jared Jeffries or Shane Battier, and someone young and not worthless (Budinger??) for the #4 and Jefferson so they can take Cousins ahead of the Kings. The Chronicle had a story that the ROX were trying to move up to get DC. Houston actually has some good stuff to trade (three 1sts in the next two years, expiring contracts of Battier and Jeffries).ETA: A potential front line of Yao, Jefferson, Cousins, Scola, and Chuck Hayes would be the deepest in the league and could show a LOT of different looks (quick, physical, defense, etc) provided they could stay healthy - which is admittedly a big "if".
The Clippers would actually have a pretty good starting lineup
F - Blake GriffinSF - Luol DengC - Chris KamanPG - Baron Davis SG - Eric GordonNot bad, but a lot depends on Baron Davis.I don't think Bynum will never be a guy who plays 75+ games a year. His 15 million dollar a year contract will be a black hole.
I'm a little worried as a kings fan, as this seems like a 4 player draft and they are picking 5... But then again I thought along similar lines last year and it ended up working out.
Breakum isn't going anywhere. 1st the Lakers owe him for killing himself to get through the playoffs - I highly doubt they'll send him to Siberia now. 2nd he costs 4 or 5 million less than Bosh will. 3rd he's a true 5 while Bosh would be Gasol part 2. 4th he's 22 years old. 5th he's Buss Jr.'s favorite thing ever. Laker fans need to start sacrificing goats to the god of good knee health and move on.
I do not want to get rid of rim. I'm looking at it from the Raptors side. I want to keep the Lakers foundation of Kobe, Pau, Odom, Bynum, and Fish together. Add pieces around that until it doesn't work. Bynum has yet to be 100% for the playoffs, and all injuries have been freak plays. The courage he showed playing on a torn up knee shows his heart. I love the guy.If he's so good why are you in such a hurry to get rid of him?
I do not want to get rid of rim. I'm looking at it from the Raptors side. I want to keep the Lakers foundation of Kobe, Pau, Odom, Bynum, and Fish together. Add pieces around that until it doesn't work. Bynum has yet to be 100% for the playoffs, and all injuries have been freak plays. The courage he showed playing on a torn up knee shows his heart. I love the guy.
I've become a big Bynum fan as a result of him gutting out the playoffs. I don't want to see him go (though I don't think the torn meniscus and pulled achilles were freak plays - unless the meniscus was a result of compensating for the other injury, which I don't think is the case).Why does Minnesota do this trade? You're basically giving away Rubio.
Up until now, most of the talk has been that James and Wade wouldn't work well together because it's two guys who need the ball, blah, blah blah, but the Heat's actions make me think that they don't agree with this line of thought.
I think the Heat are setting themselves up for some disappointment and probably handing out a bad contract to somebody when they have "extra" cap space. No way any of those three are going to take less than max money - which means they could get 2 of those guys at most and have a totally stripped roster around them.
I read that Cousins refused to work out of MIN. Of course, that only validates your point.
Surprised that such a large thread this was I think the first mention of the Rockets. I think they'll try to do something big, if not, then trade down to accumulate another future draft pick.
Talk about a bad trade for the Wolves, how about you just kick us in the nuts and call it a day? Sheesh.
They played pretty well together on Team USA. Both are unselfish. Both play defense. Both can score. James can run an offense. They get some bangers and a guy who can hit the 3 and defend and that team is sick.What's the status of Haslem though? Are the Heat thinking they can go with Lebron, Wade, Amare/Bosh/??, Chalmers, their four 2nd round picks, and a few league minimum guys?
i think this happens only if cousins is sitting there at 1.7. otherwise, no chance....Lots of talk around Detroit about thisetroit gives #7 overall, Tayshaun Prince, Chris WilcoxMinnesota gives #16, 23, Al Jefferson
That's what it sounds like they are gearing up to do.
i think if cousins is there it won't happen either because detroit would just take him.i think this happens only if cousins is sitting there at 1.7. otherwise, no chance....Lots of talk around Detroit about this
Haslem is an unrestricted FA. I guess the hope is that supporting players would take sub-market deals to play for a contender.
Agreed. I think they'll try to move up in to the top 4 or will try to move down quite a bit. The Rockets are one of the few teams with a lot of talent that is not overpaid. Outside of Jeffries (who expires nest season) they don't have anyone who is a $$$$ albatross. Even Battier is reasonably paid for what he does and his contract expires next year too. They could potentially offer the 14, Jordan Hill, Ariza, and Battier to Minnesota for the #4 and Jefferson. That might not be the best deal the Wolves can get but its not awful, all things considered.
Yes. Few things Morey is thinking about:1. Can they get Bosh? If the odds are slim to none then they should use draft picks to move up
i think if cousins is there it won't happen either because detroit would just take him.i think this happens only if cousins is sitting there at 1.7. otherwise, no chance....Lots of talk around Detroit about this
This. Was Houston even on the list Bosh gave Toronto for S&T possibilities?
Well what other teams can offer TOR the draft picks/players to get Bosh? If Bosh comes to the Rockets he will be the man, with or without Yao. No way will Bosh not do a sign and trade and give up all that extra $.
There was no list or at least it was reported after a list was given that then a list was not given.Bosh will have to decide to give up millions to simply just sign with another team or give up control, take more money on the table and accept going to a team that may not be #1 on his list.He has said in the past he wants to be the man which won't happen at all if he is on a team with LBJ, Wade, Amare...
Lebron would be the only player that could make the Rockets a non-Yao-o-Centric organization.
