*NBA THREAD* Abe will be missed (6 Viewers)

[Kev4029]

I dont think Melo is going anywhere. 3 years and $65 million is going to look pretty good to him soon enough.

Then do you think the Nuggets will acquire better parts around him in order to surpass the Lakers?

Not sure where the parts will come from. Need to find a big man somehow? Maybe they will go more small ball. If the light would ever turn on for JR Smith, that would be a big help. It's not like the Nuggets are the little sisters of the poor here. Plus the Suns and Jazz got weaker.

They should have pushed hard for j oneal, he was exactly what they need, a dude that can defend and rebound an allow nene to play pf for 20 minutes a game. 104.3 was saying it sounds likely that anderson and martin are going to be out until close to the all star break, they have to grab a decent big to fill in for big minutes. Who are the remaining decent bigs left? Sadly I think kwame brown would be a decent fit for 15 minutes a game because he's so big and can kind of defend and rebound. I think ike diogu would be a steal for somebody if he's healthy.

Yeah I heard that as well. Looks like Martin anyway. Later they were talking about maybe an outside chance in adding Al Jefferson

If they can get jefferson while keeping nene, that's a great deal, otherwise its probably something of a side step. A jefferson nene melo front court would be pretty bad defensively though.

 

[Gotti]

I wonder if this causes the Magic to change their offensive system. They had been the 4 out/1 in with Dwight...but with the Heat adding Lebron and Wade you have to consider changing that, no? Wade and Lebron will dominate the perimeter defensively, I would think even if they have to double Dwight. Magic just won't get many open looks.Heat will clearly be lacking something on the interior on defense, no matter who they sign...do the Magic consider changing their offense and playing Gortat next to Dwight? Or trying to create a package including Gortat for an offensive player like Al Jefferson? I just can't imagine them standing still on this.

My sources say that Stan Van Gundy has been at Picadilly all day drawing up plays

 

[Mr. PadresLakers]

I wonder if this causes the Magic to change their offensive system. They had been the 4 out/1 in with Dwight...but with the Heat adding Lebron and Wade you have to consider changing that, no? Wade and Lebron will dominate the perimeter defensively, I would think even if they have to double Dwight. Magic just won't get many open looks.Heat will clearly be lacking something on the interior on defense, no matter who they sign...do the Magic consider changing their offense and playing Gortat next to Dwight? Or trying to create a package including Gortat for an offensive player like Al Jefferson? I just can't imagine them standing still on this.

Is this a serious post? Why would they change their offense because of the makeup of one team? Especially one where Bosh is your best post defender?

 

[Premier]

I wonder if this causes the Magic to change their offensive system. They had been the 4 out/1 in with Dwight...but with the Heat adding Lebron and Wade you have to consider changing that, no? Wade and Lebron will dominate the perimeter defensively, I would think even if they have to double Dwight. Magic just won't get many open looks.Heat will clearly be lacking something on the interior on defense, no matter who they sign...do the Magic consider changing their offense and playing Gortat next to Dwight? Or trying to create a package including Gortat for an offensive player like Al Jefferson? I just can't imagine them standing still on this.

Is this a serious post? Why would they change their offense because of the makeup of one team? Especially one where Bosh is your best post defender?

Because that one team is in their division now. And it's not one team...not that I'm some expert, but I thought after the Lakers pushed them around physically in '09, they should get bigger. Didn't seem like it was a bad idea after the Celtics series this year either. Physical teams can take them off their game.But more importantly, it seems like they should at least have another plan in place for Miami. Like it or not, but they're going to have to go through them to get through the east and having guys like Rashard and Vince trying to spring free against Wade/Lebron doesn't seem like a winning proposition.

 

[Steelfan7]

The Raptors will get two first round picks (one of them their own) in return for a sign-and-trade for Chris Bosh. Toronto will receive Miami's 2011 first round pick.A sign-and-trade will also be completed for LeBron James with Cleveland as well. The Cavaliers will receive a trade exception worth $16 million and two future first round picks and a second rounder, according to Windhorst.Miami is trying to find a way to keep Udonis Haslem.All three will get six-year contracts from the Heat, though they won't get max money.Via Brian Windhorst/Plain Dealer (via Twitter)

 

[Mr. PadresLakers]

I wonder if this causes the Magic to change their offensive system. They had been the 4 out/1 in with Dwight...but with the Heat adding Lebron and Wade you have to consider changing that, no? Wade and Lebron will dominate the perimeter defensively, I would think even if they have to double Dwight. Magic just won't get many open looks.Heat will clearly be lacking something on the interior on defense, no matter who they sign...do the Magic consider changing their offense and playing Gortat next to Dwight? Or trying to create a package including Gortat for an offensive player like Al Jefferson? I just can't imagine them standing still on this.

Is this a serious post? Why would they change their offense because of the makeup of one team? Especially one where Bosh is your best post defender?

Because that one team is in their division now. And it's not one team...not that I'm some expert, but I thought after the Lakers pushed them around physically in '09, they should get bigger. Didn't seem like it was a bad idea after the Celtics series this year either. Physical teams can take them off their game.But more importantly, it seems like they should at least have another plan in place for Miami. Like it or not, but they're going to have to go through them to get through the east and having guys like Rashard and Vince trying to spring free against Wade/Lebron doesn't seem like a winning proposition.

The Lakers are not really built anything like the Heat. The Lakers greatest strength is their length in the post. Bynum, Gasol and Odom. The Heat have Bosh, a couple 2nd rounders and images of a washed up Shaq in their prayers. They might be an amazing offensive team but without an elite defender in the post Howard is going to eat them alive and the rest of the offense will react off of that.

 

[Mr. PadresLakers]

Bulls extend offer sheet to Redick

July 9, 2010 10:38 PM | No Comments

By K.C. Johnson

The Bulls continued to address their outside shooting needs late Friday by extending an offer sheet to restricted free agent J.J. Redick.

Redick averaged 9.6 points and shot 40 percent from 3-point land last season for the Orlando Magic.

While the terms of the Bulls' offer were not immediately known, a league source said "it would be painful for the Magic to match."

Earlier Friday, the Bulls came to terms on a three-year deal with Kyle Korver, who set and NBA record for 3-point percentage last season.

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/...-to-redick.html

 

[Mr. PadresLakers]

Earlier Friday night, sources told ESPN.com's Marc Stein that the Bulls had reached agreement on a three-year deal with Korver, the Jazz's free-agent shooting guard.Later in the evening, sources told ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher that Chicago offered restricted free agent Redick a three-year, $20 million deal. The Magic have seven days to match the contract.

 

[Premier]

The Magic will match that. 3/20 doesn't seem "painful" at all for him.

 

[Steelfan7]

Earlier Friday night, sources told ESPN.com's Marc Stein that the Bulls had reached agreement on a three-year deal with Korver, the Jazz's free-agent shooting guard.Later in the evening, sources told ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher that Chicago offered restricted free agent Redick a three-year, $20 million deal. The Magic have seven days to match the contract.

I am very surprised that first the Bulls would sign both Korver and Reddick and second that both players would agree to sign with same team. I bet Magic match Reddick's contract.

 

[Pat Patriot]

Earlier Friday night, sources told ESPN.com's Marc Stein that the Bulls had reached agreement on a three-year deal with Korver, the Jazz's free-agent shooting guard.Later in the evening, sources told ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher that Chicago offered restricted free agent Redick a three-year, $20 million deal. The Magic have seven days to match the contract.

I am very surprised that first the Bulls would sign both Korver and Reddick and second that both players would agree to sign with same team. I bet Magic match Reddick's contract.

Redick showed me something in the playoffs against the Celtics this year. He wasnt just a shooter. He played good D as well. Contract seems reasonable for him.

 

[Steelfan7]

Earlier Friday night, sources told ESPN.com's Marc Stein that the Bulls had reached agreement on a three-year deal with Korver, the Jazz's free-agent shooting guard.Later in the evening, sources told ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher that Chicago offered restricted free agent Redick a three-year, $20 million deal. The Magic have seven days to match the contract.

I am very surprised that first the Bulls would sign both Korver and Reddick and second that both players would agree to sign with same team. I bet Magic match Reddick's contract.

Redick showed me something in the playoffs against the Celtics this year. He wasnt just a shooter. He played good D as well. Contract seems reasonable for him.

I know Stan Van Gundy loves the guy so I can't see them not matching especially since Queen James and gang joined the devil's team.

 

[Bobcat10]

I'm pretty sure LeBron will post up more.

Why? He hasnt shown that he can do it yet. Who was the great post player in Cleveland that has prevented Lebron from posting up the last 7 years?

That wasn't his game. But with Wade on the court, LeBron will change his game. I think he can. We'll see.

We'll see...but the past two offseasons, especially last summer, this is what he was supposedly working on very hard. Showed flashes last year, but nothing consistent, and he should dominate doing it. Maybe it's coaching though during the season...

 

[timschochet]

Saw this on TV this morning. It's probably been posted already, but just in case:

MGM Grand odds to win NBA Championship 2010-11:

Miami Heat 8-5

L.A. Lakers 11-5

Orlando Magic 8-1

Those were the top 3; I don't remember the others except that they were all greater. (I think Oklahoma City was 20-1).

 

[Chaka]

At least Bosh can guarcd guys 1 on 1, but James is going to have to crash the boards a bunch. It will be interesting to see how they play. I could see them being anywhere from the #1 seed in the East and crushing everyone to the #4 seed behind Orlando, Boston, and Chicago.

Not the #1 seed? Crazy talk. Barring a rash of injuries, I can't see the Heat winning less than 65 games. They're going to be the best offensive team in the history of the NBA. They have 3 players that demand double teams and will always have a shooter out there with them. They'll be unstoppable on the break. They'll be shooting over 50% from the floor, likely over 40% from 3, and getting to the free throw line at record rates.If they're even average defensively, they'll be unstoppable. And they've got a 1st teamer and 2nd teamer all-defense on the perimeter. They'll be flying around the passing lanes.Bosh was 6th in the NBA in rebounds per game and LeBron qualified for the leaderboard. Anthony's terrible on the glass so it may not be a strength but it won't be a glaring weakness.I foresee a lot of 120-100 type games.

Don't forget the establishment of an indisputable unified field theory (destined to become a law of nature of course) to explain the physical constants of nature. Because, y'know, naturally they're going to do that as well.Oh and warp drive, I can't see how they get through 82 games without at least inventing warp drive toh and alcohol without any calories. I mean you gotta figure that over the course of a full season they're just gonna make that happen by accident.Yes I predict big, big things for the Miami Heat. Boy howdy.

 

[Pat Patriot]

I'm pretty sure LeBron will post up more.

Why? He hasnt shown that he can do it yet. Who was the great post player in Cleveland that has prevented Lebron from posting up the last 7 years?

That wasn't his game. But with Wade on the court, LeBron will change his game. I think he can. We'll see.

We'll see...but the past two offseasons, especially last summer, this is what he was supposedly working on very hard. Showed flashes last year, but nothing consistent, and he should dominate doing it. Maybe it's coaching though during the season...

I dont remember even seeing flashes of it in the Celtics series at all.

 

[Steelfan7]

I'm pretty sure LeBron will post up more.

Why? He hasnt shown that he can do it yet. Who was the great post player in Cleveland that has prevented Lebron from posting up the last 7 years?

That wasn't his game. But with Wade on the court, LeBron will change his game. I think he can. We'll see.

We'll see...but the past two offseasons, especially last summer, this is what he was supposedly working on very hard. Showed flashes last year, but nothing consistent, and he should dominate doing it. Maybe it's coaching though during the season...

I dont remember even seeing flashes of it in the Celtics series at all.

You must have missed it. Remember he has "spoiled" the Cavs fans for the past 7 yrs.

 

[Pat Patriot]

Chad Ford on Twitter:

Breaking: Contract details of LeBron, Wade & Bosh LeBron & Bosh sign 6 year, $110M dollar deals. Wade signs 6 year, $107M dollar deal.

I cant believe these teams (Toronto and Cleveland) helped facilitate sign and trades so these guys could get more money.

And what did they get? Future 1st round picks of the Miami Heat (late round picks)? Miami was able to make this happen because they had a large trade exception.

 

[No. 16]

GState's Anthony Morrow has agreed to a 3-year offer sheet worth approximately $12 million with New Jersey, a league source tells Y!

Would love this if it's true... 4 million for one of the best shooters in the NBA is fair value. With the trade of Azubuike and Maggette, I think this is a no brainer match for the Warriors. He won't offer much else other than scoring and decent rebounding, but he certainly spreads the floor when he's in the game.

 

[Steelfan7]

GState's Anthony Morrow has agreed to a 3-year offer sheet worth approximately $12 million with New Jersey, a league source tells Y!

Would love this if it's true... 4 million for one of the best shooters in the NBA is fair value. With the trade of Azubuike and Maggette, I think this is a no brainer match for the Warriors. He won't offer much else other than scoring and decent rebounding, but he certainly spreads the floor when he's in the game.

Anthony Morrow has reached agreement on a three-year, $12 million offer sheet with the New Jersey Nets, league sources told Yahoo! Sports on Friday night.

The Golden State Warriors aren’t expected to match the offer, a league source said.

Via Adrian Wojnarowski/Yahoo! Sports

I thought it would be a no brainer match as well, but this report states they won't match.

 

[shake zula]

Looks like w/ the sign and trade for Lebron and Bosh Miami will have more money than initially thought. They may have enough for Haslem AND Miller.

I'm curious to see which picks they still have going foward. Two 1st to Toronto, 2 1st to Cleveland, what else?

 

[JMon348]

Beasley traded because of Delonte West

Beasley traded

 

[No. 16]

GState's Anthony Morrow has agreed to a 3-year offer sheet worth approximately $12 million with New Jersey, a league source tells Y!

Would love this if it's true... 4 million for one of the best shooters in the NBA is fair value. With the trade of Azubuike and Maggette, I think this is a no brainer match for the Warriors. He won't offer much else other than scoring and decent rebounding, but he certainly spreads the floor when he's in the game.

Anthony Morrow has reached agreement on a three-year, $12 million offer sheet with the New Jersey Nets, league sources told Yahoo! Sports on Friday night.

The Golden State Warriors aren’t expected to match the offer, a league source said.

Via Adrian Wojnarowski/Yahoo! Sports

I thought it would be a no brainer match as well, but this report states they won't match.

Yah, read that afterwards. Hope it's not true. Reddick is getting 3/20 million so 3/12 for Morrow is almost bargain value. I think Reddick is a more well rounded player, but Morrow is by far the better shooter.

 

[Celph Titled]

Jesus am I glad to be on the Heat wagon. So long, Warriors!

 

[the moops]

I'm pretty sure LeBron will post up more.

Why? He hasnt shown that he can do it yet. Who was the great post player in Cleveland that has prevented Lebron from posting up the last 7 years?

That wasn't his game. But with Wade on the court, LeBron will change his game. I think he can. We'll see.

We'll see...but the past two offseasons, especially last summer, this is what he was supposedly working on very hard. Showed flashes last year, but nothing consistent, and he should dominate doing it. Maybe it's coaching though during the season...

I dont remember even seeing flashes of it in the Celtics series at all.

I would have little doubt that James can post up most 3's in the NBA. It wasn't his game, or the Cavs game to make that happen.

 

[No. 16]

Jesus am I glad to be on the Heat wagon. So long, Warriors!

Peace!

 

[Vladislav Tretiak]

Beasley traded because of Delonte West

Beasley traded

That's hilarious, but you didn't do the story justice -- Michael Beasley's dad is insisting that LeBron had the Heat trade Beasley because he looks so much like Delonte West.

In fairness to the crazy dad, their pictures in that story do look a lot alike.

I thought it was pretty obvious since the link I provided showed Beasley's Dad's tweet.

True. I just know that I don't click on all links. I'm assuming others pick & choose which links to click as well. I just didn't want anybody to miss the awesomeness of the story you found.

So Beasley going to the Mutts.Is the guy any good? Does this mean Al Jefferson is going to get peace of mind and have to leave this circus of a team?

I don't know the NBA so any help is appreciated.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

I just tried to register the domain "TriamiHeat.com" but someone already got it.

Right now "triami heat" only has 13 hits on Google. By next year it will easily be in the six figures.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

The changing sub title to this thread is off the charts good.

 

[drummer]

The changing sub title to this thread are off the charts good.

 

[Native]

The Knicks are close to signing Raymond Felton to a multi-year deal, according to sources that spoke with Yahoo's Marc J. Spears.RealGM Note: Felton is an unrestricted free agent after he was unable to agree to a long-term deal with Charlotte last summer.Felton was the fifth overall pick in the 2005 NBA Draft.Via Marc J. Spears/Yahoo! (via Twitter)

Felton seems like hed be a good fit for Dantoni's offense no?

 

[Max Power]

Bulls are starting to take shape as a pretty solid ball club.

PG-Rose (signing Livingston or Law to backup)

SG- Redick / Korver

SF- Deng / James Johnson

PF- Boozer / Gibson

C- Noah / (re-sign Miller) / Asik

If Orlando doesn't match for Redick, it will still leave Chicago will a little over 6mil in cap space to add another solid rotation player or two.

There are also a couple rumors floating around about the Bulls exploring options to get Andre Iguodala.

 

[pollardsvision]

Looks like w/ the sign and trade for Lebron and Bosh Miami will have more money than initially thought. They may have enough for Haslem AND Miller.

I'm curious to see which picks they still have going foward. Two 1st to Toronto, 2 1st to Cleveland, what else?

They've got $8 mill. to spend before they have to go all minimum. It'd be amazing if they got both Miller and Haslem. There's still plenty of reasons to be skeptical though. Both players are 30 years old and this very well could be the last meaningful contract they get. The lockout's coming. Half the NBA is a ton of unused cap space. With Felton/Korver/Redick signed or close to signed, we might be talking about the 2 best remaining free agents (unless there's someone I'm missing, it's not close).

Asking both of these guys to essentially take half of what Drew Gooden and Travis Outlaw got feels like an awful lot to ask, even for a trip to the Conference Finals.

 

[Pat Patriot]

I would have little doubt that James can post up most 3's in the NBA. It wasn't his game, or the Cavs game to make that happen.

If he COULD do it, why WOULDNT he do it in 7 years in the league. I think it was Warehouse that said it but it isnt as easy as some of you think. You have to work at a post up game. You dont just have it because you are more athletic than the other guy.

 

[Steelfan7]

The Nets are preparing a "big money" offer for Rockets restricted free-agent forward Luis Scola, sources told HoopsWorld's Bill Ingram.Houston general manager Daryl Morey has been very clear in saying they will match any offer for Scola.Via Bill Ingram/HoopsWorld

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Any reason why bosh and lebron got 110 and wade took 107?

They are still under the max so they did trades just to get the 6th year? Why bother and lose all those picks?

 

[the moops]

They are still under the max so they did trades just to get the 6th year? Why bother and lose all those picks?

I was thinking the same thing. It must be for the 6th year thing, which I find baffling. If they are going to take less than max dollars, I'm surprised they wouldnt want to do it for 5 years instead of 6, especially considering that would have allowed the Heat to keep some picks that may help them a bit in the coming years.

 

[Mr. PadresLakers]

Center Johan Petro has reached agreement on a three year, $10 million deal with New Jersey, league sources tell Y!.

 

[Kev4029]

They are still under the max so they did trades just to get the 6th year? Why bother and lose all those picks?

I was thinking the same thing. It must be for the 6th year thing, which I find baffling. If they are going to take less than max dollars, I'm surprised they wouldnt want to do it for 5 years instead of 6, especially considering that would have allowed the Heat to keep some picks that may help them a bit in the coming years.

I was thinking they did it so they could give them a lower amount this year, but still give them closer to the money they desired because of the 10.5% annual raises instead of 8 or whatever it is if they were to be signed outright. That is the only thing that would make any sense to me.

 

[Frostillicus]

Jesus am I glad to be on the Heat wagon. So long, Kahn!

 

[derek245583]

Karl Malone should make a comeback...get a ring in Miami.

 

[This_Guy]

They are still under the max so they did trades just to get the 6th year? Why bother and lose all those picks?

I was thinking the same thing. It must be for the 6th year thing, which I find baffling. If they are going to take less than max dollars, I'm surprised they wouldnt want to do it for 5 years instead of 6, especially considering that would have allowed the Heat to keep some picks that may help them a bit in the coming years.

I think it is more for the raises. With the sign & trade they can offer a 10.5% raise each year rather than 8%. This allows them to have more money under the cap now but still give the 3 guys more money over the term of the contract. I believe they all have termination options after the 4th year so they can get out if they want. Still not sure it is worth the lost draft spots but those are likely to be very later 1st rounders that aren't all that valuable anyway.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

They are still under the max so they did trades just to get the 6th year? Why bother and lose all those picks?

I was thinking the same thing. It must be for the 6th year thing, which I find baffling. If they are going to take less than max dollars, I'm surprised they wouldnt want to do it for 5 years instead of 6, especially considering that would have allowed the Heat to keep some picks that may help them a bit in the coming years.

I think it is more for the raises. With the sign & trade they can offer a 10.5% raise each year rather than 8%. This allows them to have more money under the cap now but still give the 3 guys more money over the term of the contract. I believe they all have termination options after the 4th year so they can get out if they want. Still not sure it is worth the lost draft spots but those are likely to be very later 1st rounders that aren't all that valuable anyway.

So doing it this way gives them more cap room than if they signed them outright? Makes sense then. Why does wade get 3m less though?

 

[Kev4029]

Looks like w/ the sign and trade for Lebron and Bosh Miami will have more money than initially thought. They may have enough for Haslem AND Miller.

I'm curious to see which picks they still have going foward. Two 1st to Toronto, 2 1st to Cleveland, what else?

They've got $8 mill. to spend before they have to go all minimum. It'd be amazing if they got both Miller and Haslem. There's still plenty of reasons to be skeptical though. Both players are 30 years old and this very well could be the last meaningful contract they get. The lockout's coming. Half the NBA is a ton of unused cap space. With Felton/Korver/Redick signed or close to signed, we might be talking about the 2 best remaining free agents (unless there's someone I'm missing, it's not close).

Asking both of these guys to essentially take half of what Drew Gooden and Travis Outlaw got feels like an awful lot to ask, even for a trip to the Conference Finals.

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong here, I'm going to use rounded numbers to make the math a little easier....The NBA Cap is at 58 million, The Heat currently have 4 players under contract at 14.5, 14.5, 14, and 1 million plus have 9 cap holds at .5 million a piece to fill out the roster. This gives them 9.5 million in cap plus the cap holds which will also be used for signing players.

So.... this would give the Heat something like one player at 5 million and a player at 5.5 million, or a player at 6 million (reported Mike Miller contract) and one at 4.5 million or two at 2.5 a piece. Its possible they could still field a decent starting lineup, and if you use exact numbers their "free" cap is actually .5 million higher so they have 10 million. The Heat management have done a fantastic job with all this cap management.

 

[pollardsvision]

Looks like w/ the sign and trade for Lebron and Bosh Miami will have more money than initially thought. They may have enough for Haslem AND Miller.

I'm curious to see which picks they still have going foward. Two 1st to Toronto, 2 1st to Cleveland, what else?

They've got $8 mill. to spend before they have to go all minimum. It'd be amazing if they got both Miller and Haslem. There's still plenty of reasons to be skeptical though. Both players are 30 years old and this very well could be the last meaningful contract they get. The lockout's coming. Half the NBA is a ton of unused cap space. With Felton/Korver/Redick signed or close to signed, we might be talking about the 2 best remaining free agents (unless there's someone I'm missing, it's not close).

Asking both of these guys to essentially take half of what Drew Gooden and Travis Outlaw got feels like an awful lot to ask, even for a trip to the Conference Finals.

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong here, I'm going to use rounded numbers to make the math a little easier....The NBA Cap is at 58 million, The Heat currently have 4 players under contract at 14.5, 14.5, 14, and 1 million plus have 9 cap holds at .5 million a piece to fill out the roster. This gives them 9.5 million in cap plus the cap holds which will also be used for signing players.

So.... this would give the Heat something like one player at 5 million and a player at 5.5 million, or a player at 6 million (reported Mike Miller contract) and one at 4.5 million or two at 2.5 a piece. Its possible they could still field a decent starting lineup, and if you use exact numbers their "free" cap is actually .5 million higher so they have 10 million. The Heat management have done a fantastic job with all this cap management.

Larry Coon keeps using $8.3 mill. as the figure, so that's what I assume it is. Miller's 5/25 contract would start at $4.3 this year.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/stor...dingtime-100709

 

[shake zula]

Looks like w/ the sign and trade for Lebron and Bosh Miami will have more money than initially thought. They may have enough for Haslem AND Miller.

I'm curious to see which picks they still have going foward. Two 1st to Toronto, 2 1st to Cleveland, what else?

They've got $8 mill. to spend before they have to go all minimum. It'd be amazing if they got both Miller and Haslem. There's still plenty of reasons to be skeptical though. Both players are 30 years old and this very well could be the last meaningful contract they get. The lockout's coming. Half the NBA is a ton of unused cap space. With Felton/Korver/Redick signed or close to signed, we might be talking about the 2 best remaining free agents (unless there's someone I'm missing, it's not close).

Asking both of these guys to essentially take half of what Drew Gooden and Travis Outlaw got feels like an awful lot to ask, even for a trip to the Conference Finals.

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong here, I'm going to use rounded numbers to make the math a little easier....The NBA Cap is at 58 million, The Heat currently have 4 players under contract at 14.5, 14.5, 14, and 1 million plus have 9 cap holds at .5 million a piece to fill out the roster. This gives them 9.5 million in cap plus the cap holds which will also be used for signing players.

So.... this would give the Heat something like one player at 5 million and a player at 5.5 million, or a player at 6 million (reported Mike Miller contract) and one at 4.5 million or two at 2.5 a piece. Its possible they could still field a decent starting lineup, and if you use exact numbers their "free" cap is actually .5 million higher so they have 10 million. The Heat management have done a fantastic job with all this cap management.

You guys are awesome. The Heat have 3 of the top 5 players in the league, and they only have a shot at fielding a "decent" starting lineup. GOLD JERRY, GOLD!!!

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Wade, James, Bosh, and a couple of homeless people would be a decent NBA starting lineup.

 

[Mile High]

Looks like w/ the sign and trade for Lebron and Bosh Miami will have more money than initially thought. They may have enough for Haslem AND Miller.

I'm curious to see which picks they still have going foward. Two 1st to Toronto, 2 1st to Cleveland, what else?

They've got $8 mill. to spend before they have to go all minimum. It'd be amazing if they got both Miller and Haslem. There's still plenty of reasons to be skeptical though. Both players are 30 years old and this very well could be the last meaningful contract they get. The lockout's coming. Half the NBA is a ton of unused cap space. With Felton/Korver/Redick signed or close to signed, we might be talking about the 2 best remaining free agents (unless there's someone I'm missing, it's not close).

Asking both of these guys to essentially take half of what Drew Gooden and Travis Outlaw got feels like an awful lot to ask, even for a trip to the Conference Finals.

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong here, I'm going to use rounded numbers to make the math a little easier....The NBA Cap is at 58 million, The Heat currently have 4 players under contract at 14.5, 14.5, 14, and 1 million plus have 9 cap holds at .5 million a piece to fill out the roster. This gives them 9.5 million in cap plus the cap holds which will also be used for signing players.

So.... this would give the Heat something like one player at 5 million and a player at 5.5 million, or a player at 6 million (reported Mike Miller contract) and one at 4.5 million or two at 2.5 a piece. Its possible they could still field a decent starting lineup, and if you use exact numbers their "free" cap is actually .5 million higher so they have 10 million. The Heat management have done a fantastic job with all this cap management.

You guys are awesome. The Heat have 3 of the top 5 players in the league, and they only have a shot at fielding a "decent" starting lineup. GOLD JERRY, GOLD!!!

Good point, but it's only 2 of the top 5.

 

[pollardsvision]

Looks like w/ the sign and trade for Lebron and Bosh Miami will have more money than initially thought. They may have enough for Haslem AND Miller.

I'm curious to see which picks they still have going foward. Two 1st to Toronto, 2 1st to Cleveland, what else?

They've got $8 mill. to spend before they have to go all minimum. It'd be amazing if they got both Miller and Haslem. There's still plenty of reasons to be skeptical though. Both players are 30 years old and this very well could be the last meaningful contract they get. The lockout's coming. Half the NBA is a ton of unused cap space. With Felton/Korver/Redick signed or close to signed, we might be talking about the 2 best remaining free agents (unless there's someone I'm missing, it's not close).

Asking both of these guys to essentially take half of what Drew Gooden and Travis Outlaw got feels like an awful lot to ask, even for a trip to the Conference Finals.

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong here, I'm going to use rounded numbers to make the math a little easier....The NBA Cap is at 58 million, The Heat currently have 4 players under contract at 14.5, 14.5, 14, and 1 million plus have 9 cap holds at .5 million a piece to fill out the roster. This gives them 9.5 million in cap plus the cap holds which will also be used for signing players.

So.... this would give the Heat something like one player at 5 million and a player at 5.5 million, or a player at 6 million (reported Mike Miller contract) and one at 4.5 million or two at 2.5 a piece. Its possible they could still field a decent starting lineup, and if you use exact numbers their "free" cap is actually .5 million higher so they have 10 million. The Heat management have done a fantastic job with all this cap management.

You guys are awesome. The Heat have 3 of the top 5 players in the league, and they only have a shot at fielding a "decent" starting lineup. GOLD JERRY, GOLD!!!

They have 2 of the 3 best players, plus a non-crazy Zach Randolph. (though I'm still waiting for the other shoe to drop for Bosh. Something doesn't feel right with him.

 

[Kev4029]

Looks like w/ the sign and trade for Lebron and Bosh Miami will have more money than initially thought. They may have enough for Haslem AND Miller.

I'm curious to see which picks they still have going foward. Two 1st to Toronto, 2 1st to Cleveland, what else?

They've got $8 mill. to spend before they have to go all minimum. It'd be amazing if they got both Miller and Haslem. There's still plenty of reasons to be skeptical though. Both players are 30 years old and this very well could be the last meaningful contract they get. The lockout's coming. Half the NBA is a ton of unused cap space. With Felton/Korver/Redick signed or close to signed, we might be talking about the 2 best remaining free agents (unless there's someone I'm missing, it's not close).

Asking both of these guys to essentially take half of what Drew Gooden and Travis Outlaw got feels like an awful lot to ask, even for a trip to the Conference Finals.

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong here, I'm going to use rounded numbers to make the math a little easier....The NBA Cap is at 58 million, The Heat currently have 4 players under contract at 14.5, 14.5, 14, and 1 million plus have 9 cap holds at .5 million a piece to fill out the roster. This gives them 9.5 million in cap plus the cap holds which will also be used for signing players.

So.... this would give the Heat something like one player at 5 million and a player at 5.5 million, or a player at 6 million (reported Mike Miller contract) and one at 4.5 million or two at 2.5 a piece. Its possible they could still field a decent starting lineup, and if you use exact numbers their "free" cap is actually .5 million higher so they have 10 million. The Heat management have done a fantastic job with all this cap management.

You guys are awesome. The Heat have 3 of the top 5 players in the league, and they only have a shot at fielding a "decent" starting lineup. GOLD JERRY, GOLD!!!

I meant the remaining starting lineup, people keep talking that they are gonna be 3 guys and a bunch of scrubs, that shouldn't be the case.A supporting cast of Chalmers, Miller, Big Z (vet minimum), Brad Miller (2 mill or so), Micheal Finley (vet minimum), Mbenga/Petro/Anthony (A guy to play good D against centers and use 6 fouls), Q Rich (2 mill or so), Jason Williams, plus two rookies isn't the worst 4-13 I've ever seen.