What's new
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

*NBA THREAD* Abe will be missed (2 Viewers)

:IBTL:I could come up with some worse things, but no way they woudl fly here.It's a doosh thing to say, no doubt. I imagine there are just as bad things uttered towards opposing players all the time though. :IBTL:
Of course you could say worse, but you really think some players get deeper than that? I imagine if someone said something worse than that it would be reported somewhere.
 
Thabeet looked pretty non-dimensional last night. It'll be interesting to see what the Griz decide in regard to Gasol and Randolph going forward. Connely looked like he might actually be worth some of that contract he signed, but tying up all that money in him and Rudy Gay probably won't work out well for the Griz in the long run.

 
:shock:I could come up with some worse things, but no way they woudl fly here.It's a doosh thing to say, no doubt. I imagine there are just as bad things uttered towards opposing players all the time though. :shrug:
Of course you could say worse, but you really think some players get deeper than that? I imagine if someone said something worse than that it would be reported somewhere.
It wouldn't surprise me if KG called every bald white player in the league a cancer patient at one time. CV is extra sensitive about it because he likely heard it growing up because of his disease.
 
Thabeet looked pretty non-dimensional last night. It'll be interesting to see what the Griz decide in regard to Gasol and Randolph going forward. Connely looked like he might actually be worth some of that contract he signed, but tying up all that money in him and Rudy Gay probably won't work out well for the Griz in the long run.
One thing that could help the Grizz resign Randolph and/or Gasol would be not to pick up Thabeet's option next year. That would free up 5ish million dollars to use on somebody else. I think at this point it is pretty clear that Thabeet is never going to be a starting C in the NBA and that makes him pretty expendable with his big rookie contract.
 
KG use to be one of my favorite non Laker players of all time. I don't know if he's always been like this but, he's now being exposed for a punk #####. Its been discussed plenty of times on here how much he acts like a ##### on the court, but he might of taken it to a new level last night. Charlie Villanueva tweeted after the game that Garnett was calling him a cancer patient all night. Then called him out for being a ##### saying he probably has never been in a fight, and he would love to get in the ring with him. Its one thing to talk trash and be physical on the court but KG takes it to another level.
Yeah, that is out of control. Making fun of someone by comparing them to a person battling cancer is in extremely poor taste. I've always liked KG pretty well and enjoyed most of his antics (that I know about), but this is way over the line, imo.
I'm sure KG has said far worse things. Just in the past, I imagine most players didn't feel the need to tweet about it.
What could be worse? Everyone knows Charlie V has a disease that causes him to not look normal, KG took it way too far. I really cant imagine him or anyone else saying anything much worse.
I had/have no clue about CV having a disease. :bag:
 
KG use to be one of my favorite non Laker players of all time. I don't know if he's always been like this but, he's now being exposed for a punk #####. Its been discussed plenty of times on here how much he acts like a ##### on the court, but he might of taken it to a new level last night. Charlie Villanueva tweeted after the game that Garnett was calling him a cancer patient all night. Then called him out for being a ##### saying he probably has never been in a fight, and he would love to get in the ring with him. Its one thing to talk trash and be physical on the court but KG takes it to another level.
Yeah, that is out of control. Making fun of someone by comparing them to a person battling cancer is in extremely poor taste. I've always liked KG pretty well and enjoyed most of his antics (that I know about), but this is way over the line, imo.
I'm sure KG has said far worse things. Just in the past, I imagine most players didn't feel the need to tweet about it.
What could be worse? Everyone knows Charlie V has a disease that causes him to not look normal, KG took it way too far. I really cant imagine him or anyone else saying anything much worse.
I had/have no clue about CV having a disease. :bag:
Exactly. Being bald in the NBA is the norm. Being bald in high school is where CV's reaction is coming from.
 
:shrug:

I could come up with some worse things, but no way they woudl fly here.

It's a doosh thing to say, no doubt. I imagine there are just as bad things uttered towards opposing players all the time though. :shrug:
Of course you could say worse, but you really think some players get deeper than that? I imagine if someone said something worse than that it would be reported somewhere.
It wouldn't surprise me if KG called every bald white player in the league a cancer patient at one time. CV is extra sensitive about it because he likely heard it growing up because of his disease.
That's the point. Everyone talks trash and everything is fair game IMO except for disabilities, diseases, and family members with diseases and disabilities. These sensative and serious topics that are out of the persons control. Though it wouldn't surprise me though that KG takes the low blow route. Dude is a ########.
 
KG use to be one of my favorite non Laker players of all time. I don't know if he's always been like this but, he's now being exposed for a punk #####. Its been discussed plenty of times on here how much he acts like a ##### on the court, but he might of taken it to a new level last night. Charlie Villanueva tweeted after the game that Garnett was calling him a cancer patient all night. Then called him out for being a ##### saying he probably has never been in a fight, and he would love to get in the ring with him. Its one thing to talk trash and be physical on the court but KG takes it to another level.
Yeah, that is out of control. Making fun of someone by comparing them to a person battling cancer is in extremely poor taste. I've always liked KG pretty well and enjoyed most of his antics (that I know about), but this is way over the line, imo.
I'm sure KG has said far worse things. Just in the past, I imagine most players didn't feel the need to tweet about it.
What could be worse? Everyone knows Charlie V has a disease that causes him to not look normal, KG took it way too far. I really cant imagine him or anyone else saying anything much worse.
I had/have no clue about CV having a disease. :shrug:
Alopecia, he has no hair on his body. Have you ever noticed how he looks a little different? Its because he doesn't have eyebrows or eye lashes. Pretty hard to miss.
 
:shrug:

I could come up with some worse things, but no way they woudl fly here.

It's a doosh thing to say, no doubt. I imagine there are just as bad things uttered towards opposing players all the time though. :shrug:
Of course you could say worse, but you really think some players get deeper than that? I imagine if someone said something worse than that it would be reported somewhere.
It wouldn't surprise me if KG called every bald white player in the league a cancer patient at one time. CV is extra sensitive about it because he likely heard it growing up because of his disease.
That's the point. Everyone talks trash and everything is fair game IMO except for disabilities, diseases, and family members with diseases and disabilities. These sensative and serious topics that are out of the persons control. Though it wouldn't surprise me though that KG takes the low blow route. Dude is a ########.
I recognize where CV is coming from, but why whine on twitter about it? Do you really think KG is going to shamed into acting differently at his age? I agree that KG is more talk than tough but he should have laid him out right then and there if he felt he crossed the line.
 
:scared:

I could come up with some worse things, but no way they woudl fly here.

It's a doosh thing to say, no doubt. I imagine there are just as bad things uttered towards opposing players all the time though. :lol:
Of course you could say worse, but you really think some players get deeper than that? I imagine if someone said something worse than that it would be reported somewhere.
It wouldn't surprise me if KG called every bald white player in the league a cancer patient at one time. CV is extra sensitive about it because he likely heard it growing up because of his disease.
That's the point. Everyone talks trash and everything is fair game IMO except for disabilities, diseases, and family members with diseases and disabilities. These sensative and serious topics that are out of the persons control. Though it wouldn't surprise me though that KG takes the low blow route. Dude is a ########.
Dude, it's alopecia. My family made jokes about Stan Sitwell's alopecia all the time and nobody thought it was offensive, even when Gob asked him to replace our candy beans because his fake eyebrow fell into our dish.It's not something you die from or even have other negative health impacts from. The harm is psychological, and considering that he's an NBA player who makes millions and can probably pull quality tail any time he wants, I seriously doubt CV suffers serious psychological damage from the condition. It's basically like making fun of someone for being ugly. Definitely juvenile and sorta mean, but that's about it.

 
:o

I could come up with some worse things, but no way they woudl fly here.

It's a doosh thing to say, no doubt. I imagine there are just as bad things uttered towards opposing players all the time though. :lmao:
Of course you could say worse, but you really think some players get deeper than that? I imagine if someone said something worse than that it would be reported somewhere.
It wouldn't surprise me if KG called every bald white player in the league a cancer patient at one time. CV is extra sensitive about it because he likely heard it growing up because of his disease.
That's the point. Everyone talks trash and everything is fair game IMO except for disabilities, diseases, and family members with diseases and disabilities. These sensative and serious topics that are out of the persons control. Though it wouldn't surprise me though that KG takes the low blow route. Dude is a ########.
Dude, it's alopecia. My family made jokes about Stan Sitwell's alopecia all the time and nobody thought it was offensive, even when Gob asked him to replace our candy beans because his fake eyebrow fell into our dish.It's not something you die from or even have other negative health impacts from. The harm is psychological, and considering that he's an NBA player who makes millions and can probably pull quality tail any time he wants, I seriously doubt CV suffers serious psychological damage from the condition. It's basically like making fun of someone for being ugly. Definitely juvenile and sorta mean, but that's about it.
Well I guess your family is filled with a bunch of ########s too.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Well I guess your family is filled with a bunch of ########s too.
Clearly. America certainly didn't think we were very relatable. That's why we only got 2.5 seasons on Fox before we were cancelled.Seriously, though- what exactly is so incredibly awful about making fun of a guy for a genetic condition that doesn't threaten his health in any way? How is it different from making fun of someone for being ugly?
 
1 - I don’t like the fact KG is making fun of a person for a skin disease. Grow up already.

2 – I REALLY don’t like that KG’s way of making fun of a guy with a skin disease is to compare him to a cancer patient, going through some heavy treatment to fight off a horrible illness.

These two factors make KG’s alleged comments waaaaaaaaay out of line, imo.

 
1 - I don’t like the fact KG is making fun of a person for a skin disease. Grow up already. 2 – I REALLY don’t like that KG’s way of making fun of a guy with a skin disease is to compare him to a cancer patient, going through some heavy treatment to fight off a horrible illness.These two factors make KG’s alleged comments waaaaaaaaay out of line, imo.
:goodposting: His parents did a poor job of raising him.
 
1 - I don’t like the fact KG is making fun of a person for a skin disease. Grow up already. 2 – I REALLY don’t like that KG’s way of making fun of a guy with a skin disease is to compare him to a cancer patient, going through some heavy treatment to fight off a horrible illness.These two factors make KG’s alleged comments waaaaaaaaay out of line, imo.
:yawn: His parents did a poor job of raising him.
That's a possible explanation. Good thing he is great at basketball... that makes everything ok.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
No. 16 said:
TobiasFunke said:
Dude, it's alopecia. My family made jokes about Stan Sitwell's alopecia all the time and nobody thought it was offensive, even when Gob asked him to replace our candy beans because his fake eyebrow fell into our dish.

It's not something you die from or even have other negative health impacts from. The harm is psychological, and considering that he's an NBA player who makes millions and can probably pull quality tail any time he wants, I seriously doubt CV suffers serious psychological damage from the condition. It's basically like making fun of someone for being ugly. Definitely juvenile and sorta mean, but that's about it.
Well I guess your family is filled with a bunch of ########s too.
:goodposting:
 
Kings/Lakers tonight in Sacramento. This is going to be a good gauge for the Kings, IMO. Could they be a playoff contender? It's doubtful, but tonight may tell us a little bit more about this team.

 
Kings/Lakers tonight in Sacramento. This is going to be a good gauge for the Kings, IMO. Could they be a playoff contender? It's doubtful, but tonight may tell us a little bit more about this team.
I don't think this will necessarily tell us much about the Kings we don't already know. They can't hang with the Lakers, particularly since they are still trying to work Dalembert back up to starter's minutes. He is absolutely critical to the team's defense and rebounding. I'd be more interested in how the Kings fare vs. the projected 5-9 seeds in the West.By the way, how long before Philly fans realize that for as much as they disliked Dalembert, he's 100x better than Hawes? I'm guessing pretty soon, judging from Hawes' box scores.
 
Kings/Lakers tonight in Sacramento. This is going to be a good gauge for the Kings, IMO. Could they be a playoff contender? It's doubtful, but tonight may tell us a little bit more about this team.
I don't think this will necessarily tell us much about the Kings we don't already know. They can't hang with the Lakers, particularly since they are still trying to work Dalembert back up to starter's minutes. He is absolutely critical to the team's defense and rebounding. I'd be more interested in how the Kings fare vs. the projected 5-9 seeds in the West.By the way, how long before Philly fans realize that for as much as they disliked Dalembert, he's 100x better than Hawes? I'm guessing pretty soon, judging from Hawes' box scores.
Ouch.The frustrating thing with Hawes is that about once every two weeks he has a strong (offensive) game. Then he disappoints for a while again. -But he is super-weak on D… that part of his game is consistent.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Kings/Lakers tonight in Sacramento. This is going to be a good gauge for the Kings, IMO. Could they be a playoff contender? It's doubtful, but tonight may tell us a little bit more about this team.
:rolleyes: Big game for the Kings. They might have trouble keeping it close and playoffs may be a stretch but they could do it. They have some talent on the roster.Should I go to the game.. should I not... decisions decisions
 
I refuse to believe Timberwolves fans can sit there and watch this crap 60-70 times a year. It's impossible.
Just a horrible team. But a team not without some young talent. There is no true go to guy superstar, but Kevon Love is a solid piece. No idea what Kahn is doing in regards to team building, though.
 
Paul Pierce goes over 20,000 points tonight. Only the third Celtic to ever do that (Havlicek and Bird). :lol:

Nice way to do it too. 13 seconds left, Celtics up 2. They almost always go to Allen in this situation cause he is a career 90% free throw shooter. Doc sets the play up for Pierce instead. Gets fouled. First free throw puts him right at 20,000 points. No chance in hell he is missing the 2nd one. He ends up going 11-11 from the line. 8-8 in the last minute.

Congrats Paul. Even if you are one of the biggest floppers out there. :thumbup:

 
At halftime, Kobe has 21 points on 10 shots, 8 assists and 6 rebounds in 20 minutes of play. But Gasol is carrying the team with his 12 points and 6 rebounds.

 
At halftime, Kobe has 21 points on 10 shots, 8 assists and 6 rebounds in 20 minutes of play. But Gasol is carrying the team with his 12 points and 6 rebounds.
Kobe is dominating the Kings in all aspects of the game.The only thing the Kings have going for them is when the really push the tempo. LA's age can be exposed in that one facet... but Sacramento isn't good enough to go after it consistently and control the tempo.
 
At halftime, Kobe has 21 points on 10 shots, 8 assists and 6 rebounds in 20 minutes of play. But Gasol is carrying the team with his 12 points and 6 rebounds.
Kobe is dominating the Kings in all aspects of the game.The only thing the Kings have going for them is when the really push the tempo. LA's age can be exposed in that one facet... but Sacramento isn't good enough to go after it consistently and control the tempo.
Kobe has been ridiculous until this 4th quarter, when Luther Head of all people has clearly knocked him off his game. 4 missed forced shots, a couple turnovers, and personal fouls for Bryant during that time.Strange things are afoot.
 
At halftime, Kobe has 21 points on 10 shots, 8 assists and 6 rebounds in 20 minutes of play. But Gasol is carrying the team with his 12 points and 6 rebounds.
Kobe is dominating the Kings in all aspects of the game.The only thing the Kings have going for them is when the really push the tempo. LA's age can be exposed in that one facet... but Sacramento isn't good enough to go after it consistently and control the tempo.
I've never seen Kobe pass like he did in the first half. That was impressive.
 
This_Guy said:
Balco said:
I'd like to request that the powers that be add a John Wall dance emoticon to the FBG collection, please.
agreed.
Pretty sure an hour later his teammates were thinking "Thank God for this guy. He's gonna make me look like a standard-issue mediocre basketball player instead of the smelly pile of donkey feces that I actually am."Kid can play. He's as fun to watch in person as anyone in recent memory.

 
Balco said:
Premier said:
I refuse to believe Timberwolves fans can sit there and watch this crap 60-70 times a year. It's impossible.
Just a horrible team. But a team not without some young talent. There is no true go to guy superstar, but Kevon Love is a solid piece. No idea what Kahn is doing in regards to team building, though.
retaining the services of kurt rambis is the tell there, i think...
 
Good article on Nets/Nugs talk re Melo....I've seen enough of Favors to know he is the goods....if King is smart he takes Favors out of any discussions right now....kid is 19 with big upside.

Don't Do Denver Any Favors

By: Alex Raskin Last Updated: 11/3/10 9:25 PM ET | 1710 times read

Adjust font size:The on-again-off-again trade rumors between Denver and New Jersey took another turn this week with after an NBA executive told CBSsports.com's Ken Berger that Nets rookie Derrick Favors' stock has "skyrocketed." Berger said the Nuggets may be more inclined to part with superstar Carmelo Anthony after Favors averaged 10 points and 10.3 rebounds in his first week of NBA basketball. 


Supposedly Nuggets GM Masai Ujiri is spending the first portion of the season deciding if his team is a contender or if he'd rather deal Anthony before the deadline. But in doing so, he may have missed the boat on dealing with Nets GM Billy King. 


Favors had the best Player Efficiency Rating (24.87) among rookies in the first week of the season and was leading the entire league in offensive rebounding rate (31.0) prior to Wednesday's loss to the Bobcats. Even if Favors' poor showing in the preseason turned Denver off, his diligent offseason work is already translating into NBA success. 


"It's just the hard work," Favors said. "During the preseason and training camp I was just getting adjusted… Once I got done with the preseason I've just been in the gym and in the weight room non-stop."


Amidst the trade rumors and speculation one thing has become clear: Favors' teammates want him around. 


"We weren't really talking about it much as a team," Nets guard Anthony Morrow said of the rumors. "But I think everyone knew that we had come so far as a team together, with this nucleus right now, that we didn't want to break that up. It's good that we're still around and still have the same nucleus."


Morrow believes that Favors can only benefit from the rumors subsiding. 


"I think that really helped him, especially coming in at a young age," Morrow said. "All he's known is this team since July. So hearing those talks, he realized it's the NBA. He didn't let it get him down."


Favors hasn't been perfect. He's playing only 21.3 minutes per game, yet he still averages 3.7 personal fouls. But considering he's only 19-years-old, the fact that he's made 11-of-19 shots as a pro has to bode well for his future. 


"Derrick's just playing basketball," swingman Terrence Williams said. "Derrick played fine when you guys talked about trade rumors. That man's a basketball player. He's too young to pay attention to the media, as he should. 


"The trade rumors were never anything to affect his play at all," Williams continued. "If he wasn't good, I wouldn't expect him to do that. The things that he's doing, I expect that. It's great for our team. We definitely need it and more of it."


He is also one of the Nets' few shot blockers, which is something the team will continue to ask of him.


"If we don't block a shot tonight," Johnson said before Wednesday's game against Charlotte, "I'm dressing for practice tomorrow and I'm going to attempt to demonstrate how to block a shot. And that's not going to be pretty."
 (editor's note: the Nets blocked seven shots Wednesday)

The argument against trading a budding talent for an established star is always the same: You don't know what you're giving away. 


But in this case, Anthony's chances of turning the Nets into a contender are equally suspect. He's played with talented players in Denver, but has yet to push the Nuggets to the NBA Finals. Furthermore, he's generally considered an average defender—not someone who can matchup with Miami's LeBron James or Boston's Paul Pierce in a seven-game series. 


View Alex Raskin Archive Wouldn't the Nets do better by showing patience, maybe taking another lottery pick this season and continuing to develop their young talent? After all, it wouldn't just be Favors that gets sacrificed in a trade for Anthony. It's likely former All-Star Devin Harris, among other players, would be included in the deal as well. 


Is it worth trashing everything this team has built over the past few seasons? The Nuggets are the team with the disgruntled superstar. Why should New Jersey rescue Denver by offering such a bright young talent?


There's no exact science to NBA trades, but it seems like the Nets would do better by walking away from the table while they're ahead. In Favors, Johnson has a player that gets better every time he goes out on the floor. Can the same really be said about the 26-year-old Anthony?


"I think he's getting a lot more confidence, a lot more comfortable in the offense," Morrow said of Favors. "He knows what he needs to do to help the team—mostly rebound and be an energy guy, play defense. And he's been doing a great job of that so far.


"He's such a high pick in the draft, you wouldn't know it by just talking to him," Morrow continued. "But he knows what he needs to do. He's not worried about scoring. He's letting the game come to him. And that's the best thing he can do right now."


And the best thing New Jersey's front office can do is nothing at all.

 
Good article on Nets/Nugs talk re Melo....I've seen enough of Favors to know he is the goods....if King is smart he takes Favors out of any discussions right now....kid is 19 with big upside. Don't Do Denver Any FavorsBy: Alex Raskin Last Updated: 11/3/10 9:25 PM ET | 1710 times read Adjust font size:The on-again-off-again trade rumors between Denver and New Jersey took another turn this week with after an NBA executive told CBSsports.com's Ken Berger that Nets rookie Derrick Favors' stock has "skyrocketed." Berger said the Nuggets may be more inclined to part with superstar Carmelo Anthony after Favors averaged 10 points and 10.3 rebounds in his first week of NBA basketball. 
Supposedly Nuggets GM Masai Ujiri is spending the first portion of the season deciding if his team is a contender or if he'd rather deal Anthony before the deadline. But in doing so, he may have missed the boat on dealing with Nets GM Billy King. 
Favors had the best Player Efficiency Rating (24.87) among rookies in the first week of the season and was leading the entire league in offensive rebounding rate (31.0) prior to Wednesday's loss to the Bobcats. Even if Favors' poor showing in the preseason turned Denver off, his diligent offseason work is already translating into NBA success. 
"It's just the hard work," Favors said. "During the preseason and training camp I was just getting adjusted… Once I got done with the preseason I've just been in the gym and in the weight room non-stop."
Amidst the trade rumors and speculation one thing has become clear: Favors' teammates want him around. 
"We weren't really talking about it much as a team," Nets guard Anthony Morrow said of the rumors. "But I think everyone knew that we had come so far as a team together, with this nucleus right now, that we didn't want to break that up. It's good that we're still around and still have the same nucleus."
Morrow believes that Favors can only benefit from the rumors subsiding. 
"I think that really helped him, especially coming in at a young age," Morrow said. "All he's known is this team since July. So hearing those talks, he realized it's the NBA. He didn't let it get him down."
Favors hasn't been perfect. He's playing only 21.3 minutes per game, yet he still averages 3.7 personal fouls. But considering he's only 19-years-old, the fact that he's made 11-of-19 shots as a pro has to bode well for his future. 
"Derrick's just playing basketball," swingman Terrence Williams said. "Derrick played fine when you guys talked about trade rumors. That man's a basketball player. He's too young to pay attention to the media, as he should. 
"The trade rumors were never anything to affect his play at all," Williams continued. "If he wasn't good, I wouldn't expect him to do that. The things that he's doing, I expect that. It's great for our team. We definitely need it and more of it."
He is also one of the Nets' few shot blockers, which is something the team will continue to ask of him.
"If we don't block a shot tonight," Johnson said before Wednesday's game against Charlotte, "I'm dressing for practice tomorrow and I'm going to attempt to demonstrate how to block a shot. And that's not going to be pretty."
 (editor's note: the Nets blocked seven shots Wednesday)The argument against trading a budding talent for an established star is always the same: You don't know what you're giving away. 
But in this case, Anthony's chances of turning the Nets into a contender are equally suspect. He's played with talented players in Denver, but has yet to push the Nuggets to the NBA Finals. Furthermore, he's generally considered an average defender—not someone who can matchup with Miami's LeBron James or Boston's Paul Pierce in a seven-game series. 
View Alex Raskin Archive Wouldn't the Nets do better by showing patience, maybe taking another lottery pick this season and continuing to develop their young talent? After all, it wouldn't just be Favors that gets sacrificed in a trade for Anthony. It's likely former All-Star Devin Harris, among other players, would be included in the deal as well. 
Is it worth trashing everything this team has built over the past few seasons? The Nuggets are the team with the disgruntled superstar. Why should New Jersey rescue Denver by offering such a bright young talent?
There's no exact science to NBA trades, but it seems like the Nets would do better by walking away from the table while they're ahead. In Favors, Johnson has a player that gets better every time he goes out on the floor. Can the same really be said about the 26-year-old Anthony?
"I think he's getting a lot more confidence, a lot more comfortable in the offense," Morrow said of Favors. "He knows what he needs to do to help the team—mostly rebound and be an energy guy, play defense. And he's been doing a great job of that so far.
"He's such a high pick in the draft, you wouldn't know it by just talking to him," Morrow continued. "But he knows what he needs to do. He's not worried about scoring. He's letting the game come to him. And that's the best thing he can do right now."
And the best thing New Jersey's front office can do is nothing at all.
Favors looked so so in the preseason, and downright horrible in the summer league, but I agree, the regular season has been a different story. Nets might want to keep him, although I am sure the Nuggets are going to insist on him in a deal. Murphy is a free agent after the year, so the Nets would be wise giving Favors 18-20 minutes a game to get him ready to start next year. Once he gets 30 minutes a night, he is a guaranteed double-double. Maybe the Nuggets would bite on a deal involving Terrance Williams, who is good, but is definitely more replaceable than Favors.
 
Good article on Nets/Nugs talk re Melo....I've seen enough of Favors to know he is the goods....if King is smart he takes Favors out of any discussions right now....kid is 19 with big upside. Don't Do Denver Any FavorsBy: Alex Raskin Last Updated: 11/3/10 9:25 PM ET | 1710 times read Adjust font size:The on-again-off-again trade rumors between Denver and New Jersey took another turn this week with after an NBA executive told CBSsports.com's Ken Berger that Nets rookie Derrick Favors' stock has "skyrocketed." Berger said the Nuggets may be more inclined to part with superstar Carmelo Anthony after Favors averaged 10 points and 10.3 rebounds in his first week of NBA basketball. 
Supposedly Nuggets GM Masai Ujiri is spending the first portion of the season deciding if his team is a contender or if he'd rather deal Anthony before the deadline. But in doing so, he may have missed the boat on dealing with Nets GM Billy King. 
Favors had the best Player Efficiency Rating (24.87) among rookies in the first week of the season and was leading the entire league in offensive rebounding rate (31.0) prior to Wednesday's loss to the Bobcats. Even if Favors' poor showing in the preseason turned Denver off, his diligent offseason work is already translating into NBA success. 
"It's just the hard work," Favors said. "During the preseason and training camp I was just getting adjusted… Once I got done with the preseason I've just been in the gym and in the weight room non-stop."
Amidst the trade rumors and speculation one thing has become clear: Favors' teammates want him around. 
"We weren't really talking about it much as a team," Nets guard Anthony Morrow said of the rumors. "But I think everyone knew that we had come so far as a team together, with this nucleus right now, that we didn't want to break that up. It's good that we're still around and still have the same nucleus."
Morrow believes that Favors can only benefit from the rumors subsiding. 
"I think that really helped him, especially coming in at a young age," Morrow said. "All he's known is this team since July. So hearing those talks, he realized it's the NBA. He didn't let it get him down."
Favors hasn't been perfect. He's playing only 21.3 minutes per game, yet he still averages 3.7 personal fouls. But considering he's only 19-years-old, the fact that he's made 11-of-19 shots as a pro has to bode well for his future. 
"Derrick's just playing basketball," swingman Terrence Williams said. "Derrick played fine when you guys talked about trade rumors. That man's a basketball player. He's too young to pay attention to the media, as he should. 
"The trade rumors were never anything to affect his play at all," Williams continued. "If he wasn't good, I wouldn't expect him to do that. The things that he's doing, I expect that. It's great for our team. We definitely need it and more of it."
He is also one of the Nets' few shot blockers, which is something the team will continue to ask of him.
"If we don't block a shot tonight," Johnson said before Wednesday's game against Charlotte, "I'm dressing for practice tomorrow and I'm going to attempt to demonstrate how to block a shot. And that's not going to be pretty."
 (editor's note: the Nets blocked seven shots Wednesday)The argument against trading a budding talent for an established star is always the same: You don't know what you're giving away. 
But in this case, Anthony's chances of turning the Nets into a contender are equally suspect. He's played with talented players in Denver, but has yet to push the Nuggets to the NBA Finals. Furthermore, he's generally considered an average defender—not someone who can matchup with Miami's LeBron James or Boston's Paul Pierce in a seven-game series. 
View Alex Raskin Archive Wouldn't the Nets do better by showing patience, maybe taking another lottery pick this season and continuing to develop their young talent? After all, it wouldn't just be Favors that gets sacrificed in a trade for Anthony. It's likely former All-Star Devin Harris, among other players, would be included in the deal as well. 
Is it worth trashing everything this team has built over the past few seasons? The Nuggets are the team with the disgruntled superstar. Why should New Jersey rescue Denver by offering such a bright young talent?
There's no exact science to NBA trades, but it seems like the Nets would do better by walking away from the table while they're ahead. In Favors, Johnson has a player that gets better every time he goes out on the floor. Can the same really be said about the 26-year-old Anthony?
"I think he's getting a lot more confidence, a lot more comfortable in the offense," Morrow said of Favors. "He knows what he needs to do to help the team—mostly rebound and be an energy guy, play defense. And he's been doing a great job of that so far.
"He's such a high pick in the draft, you wouldn't know it by just talking to him," Morrow continued. "But he knows what he needs to do. He's not worried about scoring. He's letting the game come to him. And that's the best thing he can do right now."
And the best thing New Jersey's front office can do is nothing at all.
Favors looked so so in the preseason, and downright horrible in the summer league, but I agree, the regular season has been a different story. Nets might want to keep him, although I am sure the Nuggets are going to insist on him in a deal. Murphy is a free agent after the year, so the Nets would be wise giving Favors 18-20 minutes a game to get him ready to start next year. Once he gets 30 minutes a night, he is a guaranteed double-double. Maybe the Nuggets would bite on a deal involving Terrance Williams, who is good, but is definitely more replaceable than Favors.
I agree - if I were the NEts I would put Favors off the table and give a pkg of anyone else except Lopez and Favors.....I would think a Murphy, TWill, 2 1st rders is as good as what is out there...if not so be it...I would rebuild with a Lopez/Favors frontcourt and hope to get lucky with those picks. Plus they have enough $ next year to sign one more close to max player
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top