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Kev4029 said:
Steelfan7 said:
If you are convinced that Melo won't take an extension with the Nets, the Nuggets didn't make a mistake because the Nets wouldn't have traded Harris, Favors and everything for Melo if he wasn't going to sign the extension. How does waiting put the Nuggets in a worse position? You think the Knicks would pull their ####ty offer of Gallinari, Randolph and Curry? Highly unlikely. I'm not going to run through the salary cap end of things again, but if you go back a couple pages you can see how I broke down the Knicks situation. This forgone conclusion that he is ending up in NY is ridiculous, and every time a Knicks fan post something about Melo I laugh because you guys, as a group, have very little idea of both how basketball works and even more so how the NBA works.
Denver probably won't get an offer to their liking and Melo will be a sign and trade free agent landing in NY.
As I wrote about above, I highly doubt the Nuggets will make a sign and trade with Melo like the 4 or 5 sign and trades this offseason. They will be below the cap so they won't generate a trade exception and something like a 2nd round pick isn't worth helping Melo and the Knicks get this done.
They're better off taking Gallo (or Chandler or pick your poison) back then getting nothing. Gallo's much more valuable than you're giving him credit for anyway so I doubt the Knicks would include him in a sign and trade after the season. They should be able to sign Melo this offseason no matter what so that's a top 6 of Melo, Amare, Felton, Gallo, Chandler, Fields.
How valuable is a guy that barely shoots 40% (39% this year) and doesn't do much else? He is a poor defender, poor rebounder, poor shot blocker and really doesn't do anything good. He is supposedly a great 3pt shooter but outside his brief rookie season, he hasn't cracked 40%.
The can shot lights out and he is the kind of guy that spreads the floor well which gives Stoudamire room inside and the Knicks good spacing but other than that and being very good at the line he is very overated by my fellow knicks fan. On offense he never seems to take advantage of that height and use it to shot over people as he is generally guarded by a much shorter guy. On defense he is a mess. He can't guard quick slashers and gets destroyed inside. He is 6 10 and averages 4.5 rebounds a game. If we want to use Stoudamire to play center against good teams we need some sort of presense from our second biggest guy on the floor. If he could rebound a little and not get over powered inside by every good PF in the league he would be perfect at PF with Stoudamire at Center. They are two guys at 6' 10" that fit great on offense but on defensve end we will get eaten up inside by the elite teams. Even Chandler gives more inside then him and is our PF when Stoudamire is holding down the middle. The only elite team we match up well with is Miami who have less inside then us as Stoudamire will just eat up Bosh. To be honest the guy I think is the better player is Chandler who really has no role if Melo comes over. At least Gallo can still sit at the 3 pt line if Melo is on the team.
 
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Kev4029 said:
Steelfan7 said:
If you are convinced that Melo won't take an extension with the Nets, the Nuggets didn't make a mistake because the Nets wouldn't have traded Harris, Favors and everything for Melo if he wasn't going to sign the extension. How does waiting put the Nuggets in a worse position? You think the Knicks would pull their ####ty offer of Gallinari, Randolph and Curry? Highly unlikely. I'm not going to run through the salary cap end of things again, but if you go back a couple pages you can see how I broke down the Knicks situation. This forgone conclusion that he is ending up in NY is ridiculous, and every time a Knicks fan post something about Melo I laugh because you guys, as a group, have very little idea of both how basketball works and even more so how the NBA works.
Denver probably won't get an offer to their liking and Melo will be a sign and trade free agent landing in NY.
As I wrote about above, I highly doubt the Nuggets will make a sign and trade with Melo like the 4 or 5 sign and trades this offseason. They will be below the cap so they won't generate a trade exception and something like a 2nd round pick isn't worth helping Melo and the Knicks get this done.
They're better off taking Gallo (or Chandler or pick your poison) back then getting nothing. Gallo's much more valuable than you're giving him credit for anyway so I doubt the Knicks would include him in a sign and trade after the season. They should be able to sign Melo this offseason no matter what so that's a top 6 of Melo, Amare, Felton, Gallo, Chandler, Fields.
:sigh:The Knicks don't have the cap room for Melo as it stands right now, they'll have to get rid of some players for free to make signing him possible with the way the CBA is currently set up. This wouldn't be terribly hard to do, but if they sign Melo it would be incredibly hard to resign Chandler and keep some of their other depth. I would guess that they would have to trade Turiaf and a lower payed player like Randolph or Douglas and renounce Chandler's rights. If the cap shrinks or they go with a more strict cap they will have nearly an impossible time signing Melo and it will be absolutely impossible to create this fantasy team of Amare, Melo and Paul.Gallo is a good player, but he is nothing more than an average starter, at best, and is probably better suited for a 6th man role where his lack rebounding, passing and defense will be overlooked and his ability to take score/shoot will be better suited.
 
:sigh:The Knicks don't have the cap room for Melo as it stands right now, they'll have to get rid of some players for free to make signing him possible with the way the CBA is currently set up. This wouldn't be terribly hard to do, but if they sign Melo it would be incredibly hard to resign Chandler and keep some of their other depth. I would guess that they would have to trade Turiaf and a lower payed player like Randolph or Douglas and renounce Chandler's rights. If the cap shrinks or they go with a more strict cap they will have nearly an impossible time signing Melo and it will be absolutely impossible to create this fantasy team of Amare, Melo and Paul.Gallo is a good player, but he is nothing more than an average starter, at best, and is probably better suited for a 6th man role where his lack rebounding, passing and defense will be overlooked and his ability to take score/shoot will be better suited.
:lmao: Really. Knicks are at 43.5 million right now with 11 guys (assuming they give Chandler a 3.1 qualify offer, Turiaf picks up his option, they tender Williams, non-tender Curry and Azubuke, and pick up Walker's contract). Throw in the draft pick and they're at say 46 million. Say the cap goes down to 57 million. That means they have to move one guy to sign Melo. They can easily pay someone to take Randolph off their hands. There will also be takers for Douglas and Mozgov if necessary. (ie its pretty easy for them to have the cap room to sign Melo). They'll give Chandler the qualifying offer and will be able to match whatever offer is put on the table for him.Getting Melo on the roster is pretty easy all things considered and the reason why Denver has virtually no leverage here unless the Knicks keep playing to the middle of the playoff race in the East (in which case they may want to play for this year). Paul's a different story, but he'd have to come in some type of trade anyway, so clearing salary cap space for him and just signing him was never really on the table.
 
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Doc Rivers is the best "draw a play out of a time out" coach Ive ever seen.
You probably dont watch enough Celtics games to make that statement but tonights play to win the game was unbelievable. You have to give Doc credit (which I rarely do). Tonights win is all due to Doc Rivers. However, there are plenty of nights where Doc plays the Pierce isolation card at the end of games and it very rarely works.
I think he has for the most part gotten away from the Pierce isolation play. Or at least only seems to use it at the end of quarters, not at the end of games.
 
:sigh:The Knicks don't have the cap room for Melo as it stands right now, they'll have to get rid of some players for free to make signing him possible with the way the CBA is currently set up. This wouldn't be terribly hard to do, but if they sign Melo it would be incredibly hard to resign Chandler and keep some of their other depth. I would guess that they would have to trade Turiaf and a lower payed player like Randolph or Douglas and renounce Chandler's rights. If the cap shrinks or they go with a more strict cap they will have nearly an impossible time signing Melo and it will be absolutely impossible to create this fantasy team of Amare, Melo and Paul.Gallo is a good player, but he is nothing more than an average starter, at best, and is probably better suited for a 6th man role where his lack rebounding, passing and defense will be overlooked and his ability to take score/shoot will be better suited.
:shock: Really. Knicks are at 43.5 million right now hwith 11 guys (assuming they give Chandler a 3.1 qualify offer, Turiaf picks up his option, they tender Williams, non-tender Curry and Azubuke, and pick up Walker's contract). Throw in the draft pick and they're at say 46 million. Say the cap goes down to 57 million. That means they have to move one guy to sign Melo. They can easily pay someone to take Randolph off their hands. There will also be takers for Douglas and Mozgov if necessary. (ie its pretty easy for them to have the cap room to sign Melo). They'll give Chandler the qualifying offer and will be able to match whatever offer is put on the table for him.Getting Melo on the roster is pretty easy all things considered and the reason why Denver has virtually no leverage here unless the Knicks keep playing to the middle of the playoff race in the East (in which case they may want to play for this year). Paul's a different story, but he'd have to come in some type of trade anyway, so clearing salary cap space for him and just signing him was never really on the table.
Go read post 6802, I outlined the Knicks cap situation with Melo as best as I could with my knowledge of the cap (with help from the salary cap faq) and the contract situation stuff I could find online.Denver has tons more leverage than the Knicks do in this situation, and with the 2011 CBA, the Nuggets have more leverage then people give them credit for.And nobody is trading for mosgov, he's yet to show he is an nba player.
 
How does Denver have any leverage when Melo tells them he only wants to play for the Knicks?

Trade him to the Knicks or he walks and Denver gets nothing.

 
How does Denver have any leverage when Melo tells them he only wants to play for the Knicks?Trade him to the Knicks or he walks and Denver gets nothing.
First off there isn't any reports saying that he only will sign with the Knicks. Second, as I pointed out yesterday a large portion of the league would offer something better than Gallo even if Melo won't commit to an extension. Third, there is a fair possibility even if he is set on the Knicks, they won't have the cap space. And lastly, Melo wants that exension because its worth a significant amount of cash, and the only way he gets it is if he gets extended and traded or reups with denver. I find it hard to believe he won't make a huge push to get that extension one way or another.
 
the moops said:
Doc Rivers is the best "draw a play out of a time out" coach Ive ever seen.
You probably dont watch enough Celtics games to make that statement but tonights play to win the game was unbelievable. You have to give Doc credit (which I rarely do). Tonights win is all due to Doc Rivers. However, there are plenty of nights where Doc plays the Pierce isolation card at the end of games and it very rarely works.
I think he has for the most part gotten away from the Pierce isolation play. Or at least only seems to use it at the end of quarters, not at the end of games.
You might be right. However, I have seen it a couple of times this year. Most notably the game where Pierce went over 20,000 pts. Cant remember who they were playing. The end of game isolation play failed, as usual, but the Celts won in OT.
 
Kev4029 said:
Sammy3469 said:
Kev4029 said:
Steelfan7 said:
If you are convinced that Melo won't take an extension with the Nets, the Nuggets didn't make a mistake because the Nets wouldn't have traded Harris, Favors and everything for Melo if he wasn't going to sign the extension. How does waiting put the Nuggets in a worse position? You think the Knicks would pull their ####ty offer of Gallinari, Randolph and Curry? Highly unlikely. I'm not going to run through the salary cap end of things again, but if you go back a couple pages you can see how I broke down the Knicks situation. This forgone conclusion that he is ending up in NY is ridiculous, and every time a Knicks fan post something about Melo I laugh because you guys, as a group, have very little idea of both how basketball works and even more so how the NBA works.
Denver probably won't get an offer to their liking and Melo will be a sign and trade free agent landing in NY.
As I wrote about above, I highly doubt the Nuggets will make a sign and trade with Melo like the 4 or 5 sign and trades this offseason. They will be below the cap so they won't generate a trade exception and something like a 2nd round pick isn't worth helping Melo and the Knicks get this done.
They're better off taking Gallo (or Chandler or pick your poison) back then getting nothing. Gallo's much more valuable than you're giving him credit for anyway so I doubt the Knicks would include him in a sign and trade after the season. They should be able to sign Melo this offseason no matter what so that's a top 6 of Melo, Amare, Felton, Gallo, Chandler, Fields.
:sigh:The Knicks don't have the cap room for Melo as it stands right now, they'll have to get rid of some players for free to make signing him possible with the way the CBA is currently set up. This wouldn't be terribly hard to do, but if they sign Melo it would be incredibly hard to resign Chandler and keep some of their other depth. I would guess that they would have to trade Turiaf and a lower payed player like Randolph or Douglas and renounce Chandler's rights. If the cap shrinks or they go with a more strict cap they will have nearly an impossible time signing Melo and it will be absolutely impossible to create this fantasy team of Amare, Melo and Paul.

Gallo is a good player, but he is nothing more than an average starter, at best, and is probably better suited for a 6th man role where his lack rebounding, passing and defense will be overlooked and his ability to take score/shoot will be better suited.
Please watch the kid play before you just rinse and repeat what you read on the internet. Gallo is a good passer and avg/good defender. He does struggle with quicker type of players, but not many players in today's NBA even attempt to play defense. Gallo and Fields do a lot of little things that contributes to winning that don't show up in the box score.
 
Kev4029 said:
=Smackdown= said:
How does Denver have any leverage when Melo tells them he only wants to play for the Knicks?Trade him to the Knicks or he walks and Denver gets nothing.
First off there isn't any reports saying that he only will sign with the Knicks. Second, as I pointed out yesterday a large portion of the league would offer something better than Gallo even if Melo won't commit to an extension. Third, there is a fair possibility even if he is set on the Knicks, they won't have the cap space. And lastly, Melo wants that exension because its worth a significant amount of cash, and the only way he gets it is if he gets extended and traded or reups with denver. I find it hard to believe he won't make a huge push to get that extension one way or another.
Denver is not going to get much in a rental trade for Melo. They will just keep Melo for this year and roll with him as far into the playoffs as possible. There will be sign and trade possibilities that won't be far off what they would get for him as a trade deadline rental player. Look how pissed Dan Gilbert was at Lebron, but still accepted a S&T for picks. It will also leave open the door for the possibility of Melo resigning with Denver.
 
No. 16 said:
=Smackdown= said:
How does Denver have any leverage when Melo tells them he only wants to play for the Knicks?Trade him to the Knicks or he walks and Denver gets nothing.
He loses money since he can only get a MAX contract before the trade deadline.
Who knows what the new CBA rules will be?
 
The respect for the officials technicals are horrendous. Noah in particular has received technicals for doing less than what Kobe has done tonight twice confronting officials verbally.

 
Damn this Knicks team is fun to watch

Are they a great team?

No

Are they a good team with the ability to have spurts of greatnes? Yes

The Amare/Felton duo has been fantastic, and everyone else plays a great role

Landry Fields gets his hands on more loose rebounds than anyone I can remember

Even if he can"t corrall it, he is always looking to swat it out to a teammate

Gallinari spreads the floor and can be a lethal shooter

Chandler is a very solid all arund player

They have a bunch of swingmen, which gives them flexibility with the lineup thoughtout the game, and they have played MUCH better D than they did last year with D'Antoni

Optimism rising!

And just anecdotally, the Knicks are starting to capture the city again

NYC is a GREAT basketball town. but I haven't heard people ask to have the Knick game turned on in bars like I have this year in several years!

 
Obviously a good win. The next 14 games include only 2 teams anywhere near .500 (NY, IND). Hopefully they can get a run going to move up in the standings. I know it is early for him but they need to involve Boozer in offense much more from beginning to end.

 
Go Bulls!
LoL. That's persistence. He's still at it even after he unrooted the Lakers to the NBA championship the past two years. Funny thing is that, in the future existence of the NBA, your team (I believe it's the Nuggets or Jazz) will never reach the number of titles the Lakers hold today.
 
Obviously a good win. The next 14 games include only 2 teams anywhere near .500 (NY, IND). Hopefully they can get a run going to move up in the standings. I know it is early for him but they need to involve Boozer in offense much more from beginning to end.
Boozer has definitely been a weird fit so far. They started to run some offense for him down the stretch tonight, but he didn't even take a shot in the 1st quarter and sat down for most of the 2nd. One thing he did do in the 3rd was draw doubles which was leaving DRose wide open for a few 3's.
 
Obviously a good win. The next 14 games include only 2 teams anywhere near .500 (NY, IND). Hopefully they can get a run going to move up in the standings. I know it is early for him but they need to involve Boozer in offense much more from beginning to end.
Boozer has definitely been a weird fit so far. They started to run some offense for him down the stretch tonight, but he didn't even take a shot in the 1st quarter and sat down for most of the 2nd. One thing he did do in the 3rd was draw doubles which was leaving DRose wide open for a few 3's.
I agree. He seems to lack a place on the floor at times. But when he is involved in the offense, it appears as though the efficiency has skyrocketed.
 
NYC is a GREAT basketball town. but I haven't heard people ask to have the Knick game turned on in bars like I have this year in several years!
NBA simply is better with a good New York team. Especially if there is also a good Chicago team.
AgreedCan't tell you how much this city wants to explode for the KnicksAlso a TON of Dolan hatredThis is the first year where we have some optimism in a whileNYC is primarily a bball city IMOwe've been dying for a Knicks team to root for againAmare has been a godsend; not just with his on court performance but with his embracing of NYC and the PR aspectsMost optimism I have had in a decade
 
Obviously a good win. The next 14 games include only 2 teams anywhere near .500 (NY, IND). Hopefully they can get a run going to move up in the standings. I know it is early for him but they need to involve Boozer in offense much more from beginning to end.
Boozer has definitely been a weird fit so far. They started to run some offense for him down the stretch tonight, but he didn't even take a shot in the 1st quarter and sat down for most of the 2nd. One thing he did do in the 3rd was draw doubles which was leaving DRose wide open for a few 3's.
I agree. He seems to lack a place on the floor at times. But when he is involved in the offense, it appears as though the efficiency has skyrocketed.
There were a number of times he had position on the block and they didn't get him the ball, a few times against Artest. They've gone so long with no true low post guy, none of them know how to make a post entry pass. He's pretty good passer, so the guys will learn that if you throw it in there, he'll kick it back out if you're open. It will come. Boozer is not the defender Gibson is, definitely able to see that so far in Boozer's time.Rose is a freak, so fun watching that guy.
 
By the way, latest report is Kaman will miss at least the next three weeks. Do you drop him in fantasy? I'm in a 10 teamer, and Ibaka/Udrih/Cousins available.

 
Bill Simmons is in the booth for the Heat/GSW game.
Just turned it on for a few. Unbearable. I understand that they have to make idle chatter in the late stages of a blowout, but do we really need to hear about Yankees/Red Sox during a freaking Miami/Golden St. NBA game? But I know, I know, Bill Simmons has to talk non-stop about Boston.
 
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Kev4029 said:
First off there isn't any reports saying that he only will sign with the Knicks.
Via YahooA source close to Carmelo Anthony(notes) told Yahoo! Sports that his preference is to be dealt to the New York Knicks, and he still isn’t interested in playing for the New Jersey Nets. The Denver Nuggets make their lone appearance this season at Madison Square Garden in New York on Sunday.
 
Via Daily News

The Knicks have fielded calls from several Western Conference clubs regarding a deal for Randolph, according to a team source. The most compelling conversations have been with the Houston Rockets, who in one scenario would trade the Knicks the first-round pick they obtained in last year’s Tracy McGrady deal.

Knicks president Donnie Walsh has admitted publicly that he regrets trading that pick and has been trying for two months to acquire a 2011 first-rounder. The pick is critical if the Knicks want to acquire Anthony, who is likely to be traded by the February deadline…The Knicks could feature a package that includes Danilo Gallinari, Eddy Curry (and his expiring contract) and a first-round pick. Another player would also have to be part of the deal, and the Nuggets could ask for rookie Landry Fields, whom the Knicks would prefer to keep.

We talked about Randolph yesterday, and obviously getting a first round pick would be smart value. There’s no sense in trading him for a backup big man or PG.

 
Kev4029 said:
First off there isn't any reports saying that he only will sign with the Knicks.
Via YahooA source close to Carmelo Anthony(notes) told Yahoo! Sports that his preference is to be dealt to the New York Knicks, and he still isn’t interested in playing for the New Jersey Nets. The Denver Nuggets make their lone appearance this season at Madison Square Garden in New York on Sunday.
I don't see anything say he will only go to NY, and I LOVE anonymous sources, the are always reliable, just like last year with the Knicks.I also don't see a mid-first round pick making any difference in a Melo trade. I hate this NY superiority stuff, clearly you guys have the best franchise in sports who everybody wants to play for, thats why your biggest free agent signing in history is Amare.
 
Kev4029 said:
First off there isn't any reports saying that he only will sign with the Knicks.
Via YahooA source close to Carmelo Anthony(notes) told Yahoo! Sports that his preference is to be dealt to the New York Knicks, and he still isn’t interested in playing for the New Jersey Nets. The Denver Nuggets make their lone appearance this season at Madison Square Garden in New York on Sunday.
I don't see anything say he will only go to NY, and I LOVE anonymous sources, the are always reliable, just like last year with the Knicks.I also don't see a mid-first round pick making any difference in a Melo trade. I hate this NY superiority stuff, clearly you guys have the best franchise in sports who everybody wants to play for, thats why your biggest free agent signing in history is Amare.
By no means do I have a superiority complex regarding the Knicks (Lebron humbled me). The Knicks are finally winning after suffering for so long with Zeke as coach and GM. After losing for so long the last thing the Knicks or their fanbase want to happen is trade away key guys for someone who has let it be known that he wants to play in NY. As as far as the quote I was simply refuting your claim about the existence of published articles saying he would only sign with Knicks. To be fair I think NY fans could make the claim that you were being unreasonable about the value that a rental for this year with Melo would return and Denvers leverage in all this. Im more than open to the possibility of Melo not coming to NY but I think he wants to play under the bright lights in the MSG, friends with Amare, his wife wants to live in a big city, etc.
 
Kev4029 said:
First off there isn't any reports saying that he only will sign with the Knicks.
Via YahooA source close to Carmelo Anthony(notes) told Yahoo! Sports that his preference is to be dealt to the New York Knicks, and he still isn’t interested in playing for the New Jersey Nets. The Denver Nuggets make their lone appearance this season at Madison Square Garden in New York on Sunday.
I don't see anything say he will only go to NY, and I LOVE anonymous sources, the are always reliable, just like last year with the Knicks.I also don't see a mid-first round pick making any difference in a Melo trade. I hate this NY superiority stuff, clearly you guys have the best franchise in sports who everybody wants to play for, thats why your biggest free agent signing in history is Amare.
Allan Houston would be my pick
 
Kev4029 said:
First off there isn't any reports saying that he only will sign with the Knicks.
Via YahooA source close to Carmelo Anthony(notes) told Yahoo! Sports that his preference is to be dealt to the New York Knicks, and he still isn’t interested in playing for the New Jersey Nets. The Denver Nuggets make their lone appearance this season at Madison Square Garden in New York on Sunday.
I don't see anything say he will only go to NY, and I LOVE anonymous sources, the are always reliable, just like last year with the Knicks.I also don't see a mid-first round pick making any difference in a Melo trade. I hate this NY superiority stuff, clearly you guys have the best franchise in sports who everybody wants to play for, thats why your biggest free agent signing in history is Amare.
Allan Houston would be my pick
I don't pay much attention to the Knicks, but is that a common belief?
 
Kev4029 said:
First off there isn't any reports saying that he only will sign with the Knicks.
Via YahooA source close to Carmelo Anthony(notes) told Yahoo! Sports that his preference is to be dealt to the New York Knicks, and he still isn’t interested in playing for the New Jersey Nets. The Denver Nuggets make their lone appearance this season at Madison Square Garden in New York on Sunday.
I don't see anything say he will only go to NY, and I LOVE anonymous sources, the are always reliable, just like last year with the Knicks.I also don't see a mid-first round pick making any difference in a Melo trade. I hate this NY superiority stuff, clearly you guys have the best franchise in sports who everybody wants to play for, thats why your biggest free agent signing in history is Amare.
By no means do I have a superiority complex regarding the Knicks (Lebron humbled me). The Knicks are finally winning after suffering for so long with Zeke as coach and GM. After losing for so long the last thing the Knicks or their fanbase want to happen is trade away key guys for someone who has let it be known that he wants to play in NY. As as far as the quote I was simply refuting your claim about the existence of published articles saying he would only sign with Knicks. To be fair I think NY fans could make the claim that you were being unreasonable about the value that a rental for this year with Melo would return and Denvers leverage in all this. Im more than open to the possibility of Melo not coming to NY but I think he wants to play under the bright lights in the MSG, friends with Amare, his wife wants to live in a big city, etc.
You didn't do that at all.I'm not saying Denver has all the leverage or anything, but they do have some and TONS more than anybody else other than Carmelo. The Knicks certainly don't have the upper hand in all these Melo dealings.

 
Kev4029 said:
You didn't do that at all.I'm not saying Denver has all the leverage or anything, but they do have some and TONS more than anybody else other than Carmelo. The Knicks certainly don't have the upper hand in all these Melo dealings.
:lmao: no one is going to pay Denver more than 30 cents on the dollar for a one year rental of Melo. Ergo Denver has no leverage. They should take the package of Fields, Gallo, Curry, and Azubuke and be happy about it. As LeBron and Wade proved this past summer, this league is now run by where the superstars want to play not the other way around. You pretty obviously don't understand the cult status Amare already has here.
 
Kev4029 said:
Steelfan7 said:
Kev4029 said:
simmonjm said:
First off there isn't any reports saying that he only will sign with the Knicks.
Via YahooA source close to Carmelo Anthony(notes) told Yahoo! Sports that his preference is to be dealt to the New York Knicks, and he still isn’t interested in playing for the New Jersey Nets. The Denver Nuggets make their lone appearance this season at Madison Square Garden in New York on Sunday.
I don't see anything say he will only go to NY, and I LOVE anonymous sources, the are always reliable, just like last year with the Knicks.I also don't see a mid-first round pick making any difference in a Melo trade. I hate this NY superiority stuff, clearly you guys have the best franchise in sports who everybody wants to play for, thats why your biggest free agent signing in history is Amare.
Allan Houston would be my pick
I don't pay much attention to the Knicks, but is that a common belief?
Houston and Sprewell led them to the Finals. Original signing of Houston was a great move, his 2nd overpriced contract with the Knicks not so much.
 
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Kev4029 said:
You didn't do that at all.I'm not saying Denver has all the leverage or anything, but they do have some and TONS more than anybody else other than Carmelo. The Knicks certainly don't have the upper hand in all these Melo dealings.
:confused: no one is going to pay Denver more than 30 cents on the dollar for a one year rental of Melo. Ergo Denver has no leverage. They should take the package of Fields, Gallo, Curry, and Azubuke and be happy about it. As LeBron and Wade proved this past summer, this league is now run by where the superstars want to play not the other way around. You pretty obviously don't understand the cult status Amare already has here.
So because the Nuggets can only get 30 cents on the dollar, they should just give in and take 10 cents from NY? That is a terrible offer, and only slightly better than walking away with just the cap space. Fields is good glue type off the bench and Gallo would be a very good 6th man, Curry obviously is just cap filler, and buke is completely worthless for this trade because he isn't going to help on the court and his salary is unnecessary. The Nuggets won't be taking that trade, annd quit acting like NY is gods gift to basketball, soon enough Dolan will run you guys right back into the ground.
 
Wow every game i watch Amare in the 4th I am amazed at how quickly he transformed the Knicks almost single handedly.

If say we signed Boozer or Joe Johnson instead we would be 9-15 now and not looking promising. So damn glad the Hawks quickly extended Joe since the Knicks would have thrown max money at him to join Amare and he would have came and the next 6 years would have been hell.

Now we got Felton, room for Fields to start and money to sign a Melo next year

Its finally good to be a Knicks fan

 
Raptors comeback from 25 down in the 3rd Q to beat the Pistons. Biggest comeback in franchise history :thumbup: . The Pistons are freaking awful.

 
Melo would obviously help the Knicks, but he and Amare aren't exactly the perfect complements to one another. And it seems like many consider Melo to be a top level player, but he's clearly not on the LeBron/Wade/Kobe/Howard level. In fact, though it seems the Knicks have a better chance at getting Melo, Chris Paul would make them better (regardless of how well Felton is playing).

 

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