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The can shot lights out and he is the kind of guy that spreads the floor well which gives Stoudamire room inside and the Knicks good spacing but other than that and being very good at the line he is very overated by my fellow knicks fan. On offense he never seems to take advantage of that height and use it to shot over people as he is generally guarded by a much shorter guy. On defense he is a mess. He can't guard quick slashers and gets destroyed inside. He is 6 10 and averages 4.5 rebounds a game. If we want to use Stoudamire to play center against good teams we need some sort of presense from our second biggest guy on the floor. If he could rebound a little and not get over powered inside by every good PF in the league he would be perfect at PF with Stoudamire at Center. They are two guys at 6' 10" that fit great on offense but on defensve end we will get eaten up inside by the elite teams. Even Chandler gives more inside then him and is our PF when Stoudamire is holding down the middle. The only elite team we match up well with is Miami who have less inside then us as Stoudamire will just eat up Bosh. To be honest the guy I think is the better player is Chandler who really has no role if Melo comes over. At least Gallo can still sit at the 3 pt line if Melo is on the team.How valuable is a guy that barely shoots 40% (39% this year) and doesn't do much else? He is a poor defender, poor rebounder, poor shot blocker and really doesn't do anything good. He is supposedly a great 3pt shooter but outside his brief rookie season, he hasn't cracked 40%.They're better off taking Gallo (or Chandler or pick your poison) back then getting nothing. Gallo's much more valuable than you're giving him credit for anyway so I doubt the Knicks would include him in a sign and trade after the season. They should be able to sign Melo this offseason no matter what so that's a top 6 of Melo, Amare, Felton, Gallo, Chandler, Fields.Kev4029 said:As I wrote about above, I highly doubt the Nuggets will make a sign and trade with Melo like the 4 or 5 sign and trades this offseason. They will be below the cap so they won't generate a trade exception and something like a 2nd round pick isn't worth helping Melo and the Knicks get this done.Steelfan7 said:Denver probably won't get an offer to their liking and Melo will be a sign and trade free agent landing in NY.If you are convinced that Melo won't take an extension with the Nets, the Nuggets didn't make a mistake because the Nets wouldn't have traded Harris, Favors and everything for Melo if he wasn't going to sign the extension. How does waiting put the Nuggets in a worse position? You think the Knicks would pull their ####ty offer of Gallinari, Randolph and Curry? Highly unlikely. I'm not going to run through the salary cap end of things again, but if you go back a couple pages you can see how I broke down the Knicks situation. This forgone conclusion that he is ending up in NY is ridiculous, and every time a Knicks fan post something about Melo I laugh because you guys, as a group, have very little idea of both how basketball works and even more so how the NBA works.
			
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   Really.  Knicks are at 43.5 million right now with 11 guys (assuming they give Chandler a 3.1 qualify offer, Turiaf picks up his option, they tender Williams, non-tender Curry and Azubuke, and pick up Walker's contract).  Throw in the draft pick and they're at say 46 million.  Say the cap goes down to 57 million.  That means they have to move one guy to sign Melo.  They can easily pay someone to take Randolph off their hands.  There will also be takers for Douglas and Mozgov if necessary.   (ie its pretty easy for them to have the cap room to sign Melo).  They'll give Chandler the qualifying offer and will be able to match whatever offer is put on the table for him.Getting Melo on the roster is pretty easy all things considered and the reason why Denver has virtually no leverage here unless the Knicks keep playing to the middle of the playoff race in the East (in which case they may want to play for this year).  Paul's a different story, but he'd have to come in some type of trade anyway, so clearing salary cap space for him and just signing him was never really on the table.
   Really.  Knicks are at 43.5 million right now hwith 11 guys (assuming they give Chandler a 3.1 qualify offer, Turiaf picks up his option, they tender Williams, non-tender Curry and Azubuke, and pick up Walker's contract).  Throw in the draft pick and they're at say 46 million.  Say the cap goes down to 57 million.  That means they have to move one guy to sign Melo.  They can easily pay someone to take Randolph off their hands.  There will also be takers for Douglas and Mozgov if necessary.   (ie its pretty easy for them to have the cap room to sign Melo).  They'll give Chandler the qualifying offer and will be able to match whatever offer is put on the table for him.Getting Melo on the roster is pretty easy all things considered and the reason why Denver has virtually no leverage here unless the Knicks keep playing to the middle of the playoff race in the East (in which case they may want to play for this year).  Paul's a different story, but he'd have to come in some type of trade anyway, so clearing salary cap space for him and just signing him was never really on the table.
		
  Great rivalry during Jordan/Ewing years.
  Great rivalry during Jordan/Ewing years.
		
 
  no one is going to pay Denver more than 30 cents on the dollar for a one year rental of Melo.  Ergo Denver has no leverage.  They should take the package of Fields, Gallo, Curry, and Azubuke and be happy about it.  As LeBron and Wade proved this past summer, this league is now run by where the superstars want to play not the other way around.  You pretty obviously don't understand the cult status Amare already has here.