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=Smackdown= said:
Kev4029 said:
Steelfan7 said:
Well, that changes things a bit.
How is this news to anyone?

It's only about the 10th report we've seen here in NY where Melo wants to come home and only play for the Knicks. He is not signing an extension with any other team.

The Nuggs are losing more & more leverage with each passing day.
If there wasn't a pending lockout you would be right, but if Denver doesn't blink and says, "We're not trading you," Melo is facing the real possibility of losing 15-20 million under a new CBA. I think the closer we get to February, you will see his list of places he would go get bigger. Denver still has cards to play here, no whether they will, who knows. Either way, I fear my favorite team is on the verge of a fire sale here in the very near future. :lmao:
Melo is from Brooklyn...he is going to the Knicks and a lack of money won't stop that. Denver is going to get screwed unless they get on board.
If in fact there is a 100% chance he is going to end up in NYC, they would get screwed anyway and the Knicks wouldn't bother trading for him and then sign him in the offseason. Ignoring that, they are getting screwed no matter what. What they do between now and Feb depends on how desperate and how spiteful they are. In my opinion, screwing Melo out of millions and pissing off the Knicks is worth more than Gallo, if Melo is gonna play this like he is.And to sammy, I would highly doubt they would lower the cap, create a hard cap and institute a salary cut across the board. It would absolutely cripple some of the biggest franchises in the NBA, including LA. We saw how that worked in the NHL, it set some teams (like my Colorado Avs) back a half decade and was part of what killed the NHL. Imagine instead of teams like the Stars and Avs, it was the Lakers and Celtics. The NBA would kill itself.

 
We saw how that worked in the NHL, it set some teams (like my Colorado Avs) back a half decade and was part of what killed the NHL.
NHL revenue and attendance is better than it's ever been and still trending upward. No idea what you're talking about here.The Avs were a veteran team that fell apart when guys like Sakic and Forsberg and Roy all retired b/c they didn't have the prospects in place to replace them and they made unwise free agent signings to try and avoid a full rebuilding process. Blaming the cap sure sounds like a cop out.
 
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We saw how that worked in the NHL, it set some teams (like my Colorado Avs) back a half decade and was part of what killed the NHL.
NHL revenue and attendance is better than it's ever been and still trending upward. No idea what you're talking about here.The Avs were a veteran team that fell apart when guys like Sakic and Forsberg and Roy all retired b/c they didn't have the prospects in place to replace them and they made unwise free agent signings to try and avoid a full rebuilding process. Blaming the cap sure sounds like a cop out.
Maybe I'm looking at the NHL lockout through my burgundy and blue glasses, and the lockout did help the NHL, but I would base increased fan attendance more on the rule changes on the ice than off of it. Much of the rule changes could have been without a lockout, but they have certainly made a more watchable product without the clutching and grabbing and making everything a little quicker and more open.As for the Avalanche, their downfall was certainly put into motion by the lockout. When they instituted the cap it really strapped the Avs because of the huge salaries for Blake and Sakic, combined with the high salaries of Hejduk and Tanguay they had over half of their salary cap tied up in three players and had a couple of key players get away because the didn't have the available funds (Foote, Kariya, Selanne, Skoula, and Forsberg - he may or may not have played anyway, but probably not). The following offseason Blake left because the Avs were again strapped for cash. Before the lockout the Avs had an 11 year streak of sellouts - 487 games, an NHL record - they are now one of the most poorly attended franchises in the NHL. The lockout ruined the Colorado Avalanche.Attendance league wide has been pretty much unchanged. In 2000-2001 (furthest back ESPN goes) the average was 17,072 and the median was 17,351, in 2003-2004 the average was 16,549 and the median was 16,974 in 2005-2006 the average was 16,954 and the median was 16,832 and in 2009-2010 the average was 16,559 and the median was 16,450. I would say thats pretty steady, the attendance numbers have hardly changed from year to year but there is a slight downward tick in the attendance numbers. Judging from the looks of all this, the lockout has effected the Avalanche more so than the rest of the league so because of that the lockout seems much worse than it really was league wide.
 
Feel bad story from the NBA this year. Donald Sterling - setting an example that the heckling starts at the top in his organization.

Donald Sterling heckling Baron Davis?

Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling has taken to heckling Clippers guard Baron Davis during games over his play and conditioning, according to a Yahoo! Sports report.

Sterling's taunts at Davis have included the following, several sources said, according to the report:

• "Why are you in the game?"

• "Why did you take that shot?"

• "You're out of shape!"

Sterling said little when asked about his comments, according to the report.

"When they make shots, it's great," Sterling said during the Clippers' loss to the Orlando Magic on Sunday, according to the report. "When they don't, we're all disappointed."

Asked to explain further, Sterling shrugged and ended the interview, according to the report.

Sterling has heckled other Clippers players, but he's razzed Davis the worst, according to the report.

"There's nothing I can say," Davis said of Sterling's comments, according to the report. "I have no comment on that. You just get to this point where it's a fight every day. It's a fight. You're fighting unnecessary battles. I'm fighting unnecessary battles.

"It's frustrating because I know and my teammates know I'm capable of getting it done, even dudes on the other team. It's frustrating."

Davis, who has three years and almost $42 million remaining on his contract, has struggled this season. He's averaging 7.4 points per game, has missed 14 of 25 games and had his conditioning questioned earlier this season by Clippers coach Vinny Del Negro.

It's not uncommon for sports owners to voice their displeasure about their teams -- though usually it happens through the media. Late New York Yankees owner George M. Steinbrenner was famous for his willingness to call reporters and vent about his unhappiness about his team's play.

Public criticism in front of the fans is less common, though not unheard of. At the San Diego Padres' 1974 home opener, the late Ray Kroc took the public address microphone and apologized to the fans for his team's play.
 
I saw MJ and if you read my statement it was not until year three when Jordan erupted, but MJ had no one with him at the time. This is D Rose's 3rd year and the improvement he has shown from last year to this year makes me think that he he is every bit the player MJ was at the same time in his career. If D Rose continues to escalate at this rate the sky's the limit.Maybe I am misinformed but I have been a Bulls fan my whole life and I am just throwing out what I see.Rose 25 ppg, 8.1 apg, 41.6% 3pt 46.6% FGJordan 37.1 ppg, 4.6 apg, .182% 3pt, 48.6 % FGI don't know I guess I really don't know what I'm watching...thanks for setting me straight. To think Bull fans really wanted Michael Beasley, just like they wanted Sam Bowie.
No.
Jordan shot 18% from 3pt range while scoring 37 ppg?
12 of 66, i.e. less than one attempt a game. It wasn't really part of his repertoire yet. Makes you wonder why BlueDemon chose it as one of the four points of comparison over, say, rebounds or steals or free throws or advanced stats, but he has been a Bulls fan his whole life, so maybe we should defer to him.
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Kev4029 said:
Steelfan7 said:
Well, that changes things a bit.
For what its worth, here is a Denver Post article that refutes that league source... a battle between unnamed sources!
A source told ESPN.com that Anthony will only sign the three-year, $65-million extension if traded only to the Knicks. But a league source refuted this alleged ultimatum to The Denver Post on Sunday afternoon.
There is nothing more in journalism that I hate than anonymous sources, so take this all with a grain of salt.ETA: I just noticed that the Melo to NY article was written by Chris Sheridan, I wonder if his sources are the same ones that assured him of Lebron going to NY for the entire year last year. It makes me feel a little better that the article was written by Sheridan instead of the hundreds of respectable journalists that cover sports in the US.
The unnamed source in the Denver Post could be Denver mgmt trying to keep what leverage they have in getting the best possible deal for Melo. Who knows in today's journalism. Anymore I don't believe it until it actually happens.
 
Kev4029 said:
Steelfan7 said:
Well, that changes things a bit.
For what its worth, here is a Denver Post article that refutes that league source... a battle between unnamed sources!
A source told ESPN.com that Anthony will only sign the three-year, $65-million extension if traded only to the Knicks. But a league source refuted this alleged ultimatum to The Denver Post on Sunday afternoon.
There is nothing more in journalism that I hate than anonymous sources, so take this all with a grain of salt.ETA: I just noticed that the Melo to NY article was written by Chris Sheridan, I wonder if his sources are the same ones that assured him of Lebron going to NY for the entire year last year. It makes me feel a little better that the article was written by Sheridan instead of the hundreds of respectable journalists that cover sports in the US.
The unnamed source in the Denver Post could be Denver mgmt trying to keep what leverage they have in getting the best possible deal for Melo. Who knows in today's journalism. Anymore I don't believe it until it actually happens.
You are absolutely right, and that's my point.
 
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Story of the year...
 
Is it just me or does this seem incredibly childish? I cant imagine Phil Jackson telling Kobe or MJ that if they grab a rebound feel free to do what you want on the proceeding offensive possesion.

A simple reward system has contributed to Miami's current eight-game winning streak.

Heat coach Erik Spoelstra set parameters that reward his superstars with offensive freedom when they excel on the defensive end.

If Dwyane Wade grabs a defensive rebound, he has the green light to do whatever he wants offensively. If LeBron James makes a defensive stop, he controls his own game on the other end of the court.

"Our job is to defend and then we get rewarded with what we want to do on offense," James said.

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_a.../#ixzz18317Tcws

 
Is it just me or does this seem incredibly childish? I cant imagine Phil Jackson telling Kobe or MJ that if they grab a rebound feel free to do what you want on the proceeding offensive possesion.

A simple reward system has contributed to Miami's current eight-game winning streak.

Heat coach Erik Spoelstra set parameters that reward his superstars with offensive freedom when they excel on the defensive end.

If Dwyane Wade grabs a defensive rebound, he has the green light to do whatever he wants offensively. If LeBron James makes a defensive stop, he controls his own game on the other end of the court.

"Our job is to defend and then we get rewarded with what we want to do on offense," James said.

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_a.../#ixzz18317Tcws
I want to see this "system" work when they are playing the Celtics and Magic in postseason
 
Nets, Lakers, Rockets are in advanced talks on 3-way deal sending T. WIlliams to HOU, S. Vujacic and a future HOU 1st to NJ, sources tell Y!

Sources say 3-way deal isn't finalized and likely won't be before Wednesday. Still financial considerations that could be adjusted.

Also included in deal, sources say: Nets' Joe Smith goes to LA and Lakers send 2011 1st rounder to NJ. Also, HOU sends NJ a '12 1st pick..

For the Nets, getting two more future first-round picks strengthens war chest to try and make deal for Carmelo Anthony.

http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA

 
Nets, Lakers, Rockets are in advanced talks on 3-way deal sending T. WIlliams to HOU, S. Vujacic and a future HOU 1st to NJ, sources tell Y!

Sources say 3-way deal isn't finalized and likely won't be before Wednesday. Still financial considerations that could be adjusted.

Also included in deal, sources say: Nets' Joe Smith goes to LA and Lakers send 2011 1st rounder to NJ. Also, HOU sends NJ a '12 1st pick..

For the Nets, getting two more future first-round picks strengthens war chest to try and make deal for Carmelo Anthony.

http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA
Not a fan at all of that for the Nets. Is Vujacic in the last year of his deal? because if not, it is an atrocious deal. I think the Nets have grown tired of Williams, though. He was demoted for attitude problems, and he refuss to play within the system. Still, he has a ton of talent, and I think the Nets aren't getting much at all.

 
Nets, Lakers, Rockets are in advanced talks on 3-way deal sending T. WIlliams to HOU, S. Vujacic and a future HOU 1st to NJ, sources tell Y!

Sources say 3-way deal isn't finalized and likely won't be before Wednesday. Still financial considerations that could be adjusted.

Also included in deal, sources say: Nets' Joe Smith goes to LA and Lakers send 2011 1st rounder to NJ. Also, HOU sends NJ a '12 1st pick..

For the Nets, getting two more future first-round picks strengthens war chest to try and make deal for Carmelo Anthony.

http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA
Not a fan at all of that for the Nets. Is Vujacic in the last year of his deal? because if not, it is an atrocious deal. I think the Nets have grown tired of Williams, though. He was demoted for attitude problems, and he refuss to play within the system. Still, he has a ton of talent, and I think the Nets aren't getting much at all.
Yeah Sasha only has one year left on his deal.Nets $2.9 mil under. $2.9 mil + Smith ($854,389) + Williams ($2,214,480) = $6 million. Vujacic = $5,475,113.

 
Wow, thats the best they can get for Terence Williams? I thought that kid has tons of talent and with the proper coaching can be a solid player

 
Wow, thats the best they can get for Terence Williams? I thought that kid has tons of talent and with the proper coaching can be a solid player
He is a malcontent....they wanted to get something for him while they could - word in NJ is Denver not interested in TWill but wants more picks in the Melo deal.....I have a feeling another deal is coming
 
Wow, thats the best they can get for Terence Williams? I thought that kid has tons of talent and with the proper coaching can be a solid player
He is a malcontent....they wanted to get something for him while they could - word in NJ is Denver not interested in TWill but wants more picks in the Melo deal.....I have a feeling another deal is coming
That's what it sounds like here in Denver too. Hopefully they can pull this off and Melo signs with them and then all the other 29 teams in the NBA can get a good laugh at the Knicks' expense.
 
Wow, thats the best they can get for Terence Williams? I thought that kid has tons of talent and with the proper coaching can be a solid player
He is a malcontent....they wanted to get something for him while they could - word in NJ is Denver not interested in TWill but wants more picks in the Melo deal.....I have a feeling another deal is coming
That's what it sounds like here in Denver too. Hopefully they can pull this off and Melo signs with them and then all the other 29 teams in the NBA can get a good laugh at the Knicks' expense.
This could also mean that NJ is going to try and rebuild thru the draft like Oklahoma City has. I think the other 29 teams would be laughing at Denver.
 
The Denver Nuggets and New Jersey Nets come to terms to trade Carmelo Anthony to the Nets... full report at 10:00 p.m. with Lionel Bienvenu!

http://twitter.com/DenverChannel
smart of Denver not to wait, I thought they were gonna screw themselves.I'm a Dantoni/Stoudemire fan so I was hoping he would land with the Knicks...oh well.
It all comes down to Melo signing an extension. If he doesn't this deal goes in the toilet and the Nuggets are basically up a creek without a paddle in regards to any future deal.It's going to be very interesting how this plays out.

 
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Well, I guess we are going to find out if Chris Sheridan and the rest of the NY media are a bunch of rumor spreading 7th grade girls, or if all my hopes and dreams are shattered and I'll be buying a ticket for the next Nuggets game to boo Melo for screwing the organization.

 
The Denver Nuggets and New Jersey Nets come to terms to trade Carmelo Anthony to the Nets... full report at 10:00 p.m. with Lionel Bienvenu!

http://twitter.com/DenverChannel
from ESPN
jadande What I'm told: there's "no truth" to report that Denver has dealt Carmelo to NJ
There is no truth because Melo needs to sign an extension, the nuggets magic game ended an hour ago, I don't think he would have had time to give an answer and for the teams to announce it either way. ESPN has beeen pushing these Melo to NY only rumors hard, of course they'll take this line of action.
 
, or if all my hopes and dreams are shattered and I'll be buying a ticket for the next Nuggets game to boo Melo for screwing the organization.
How exactly did Melo "screw the organization"????Consider yourself lucky that he helped put the Nuggets back on the map.It's the same thing as with the angry Cleveland fans with Lebron, "he deserted us" wha, wha wha.There's free agency in the NBA, just like most other professions....if you don't want your players to leave, draft players that wont want to leave. :moneybag:
 
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Well, I guess we are going to find out if Chris Sheridan and the rest of the NY media are a bunch of rumor spreading 7th grade girls, or if all my hopes and dreams are shattered and I'll be buying a ticket for the next Nuggets game to boo Melo for screwing the organization.
You have it backwards. The franchise didn't put Melo in a position to win every year. He put them in a position to win every year. The Nuggets had exactly 1 winning season in 10 before he showed up and had a winning season every year after he did. But screw Melo right? Melo made them winners, explain what does he owe them for all he did for them? So if they fall back into losing because they don't have him.... what again was it that they did for him?
 
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Wow, thats the best they can get for Terence Williams? I thought that kid has tons of talent and with the proper coaching can be a solid player
2 first round picks seems like a good return to me.
:moneybag:He put up good #'s in the D-League. He's got nice potential on the court, but could crash and burn off it.I agree with NJ dealing him if he's a big headache. He's a good player.....not a great one.
 
Wow, thats the best they can get for Terence Williams? I thought that kid has tons of talent and with the proper coaching can be a solid player
2 first round picks seems like a good return to me.
Its really a first rounder and a 2nd rounder since Lakers pick in the 29 range every year.Those late first round picks are never worth anything on draft day really and get sold for like 3M bucks a lot of times
 
Well, I guess we are going to find out if Chris Sheridan and the rest of the NY media are a bunch of rumor spreading 7th grade girls, or if all my hopes and dreams are shattered and I'll be buying a ticket for the next Nuggets game to boo Melo for screwing the organization.
You have it backwards. The franchise didn't put Melo in a position to win every year. He put them in a position to win every year. The Nuggets had exactly 1 winning season in 10 before he showed up and had a winning season every year after he did. But screw Melo right? Melo made them winners, explain what does he owe them for all he did for them? So if they fall back into losing because they don't have him.... what again was it that they did for him?
:moneybag:
 
LHUCKS said:
simmonjm said:
Kev4029 said:
Well, I guess we are going to find out if Chris Sheridan and the rest of the NY media are a bunch of rumor spreading 7th grade girls, or if all my hopes and dreams are shattered and I'll be buying a ticket for the next Nuggets game to boo Melo for screwing the organization.
You have it backwards. The franchise didn't put Melo in a position to win every year. He put them in a position to win every year. The Nuggets had exactly 1 winning season in 10 before he showed up and had a winning season every year after he did. But screw Melo right? Melo made them winners, explain what does he owe them for all he did for them? So if they fall back into losing because they don't have him.... what again was it that they did for him?
:banned:
How hard is it to keep his desire to play for only one team or city under wraps in order to help your current team get a better return on you in a trade? He'll still gets what he wants come summer.
 
biggamer3 said:
Juxtatarot said:
biggamer3 said:
Wow, thats the best they can get for Terence Williams? I thought that kid has tons of talent and with the proper coaching can be a solid player
2 first round picks seems like a good return to me.
Its really a first rounder and a 2nd rounder since Lakers pick in the 29 range every year.Those late first round picks are never worth anything on draft day really and get sold for like 3M bucks a lot of times
There have been a number of late round draft picks that have yielded successful players: Tony Parker, David Lee, Josh Howard, Barbosa, Kevin Martin, Aaron Brooks, George Hill, Taj Gibson, etc. They also start with very low salaries so there isn't much risk if the player busts (and, of course, they often do.) These picks are nice assets to have.
 
biggamer3 said:
Juxtatarot said:
biggamer3 said:
Wow, thats the best they can get for Terence Williams? I thought that kid has tons of talent and with the proper coaching can be a solid player
2 first round picks seems like a good return to me.
Its really a first rounder and a 2nd rounder since Lakers pick in the 29 range every year.Those late first round picks are never worth anything on draft day really and get sold for like 3M bucks a lot of times
There have been a number of late round draft picks that have yielded successful players: Tony Parker, David Lee, Josh Howard, Barbosa, Kevin Martin, Aaron Brooks, George Hill, Taj Gibson, etc. They also start with very low salaries so there isn't much risk if the player busts (and, of course, they often do.) These picks are nice assets to have.
A couple years ago I read an article that showed that the picks from 21-30 yield more talent than the picks 11-20 because teams reach often times on the picks in the teens on high potential-low productivity players and the picks in the twentiess are often high productivity-low potential talent. So you may be more likely to hit a home run with a stud in the teens (Granger, Josh Smith, etc) but in the twenties you are very likely to hit on a rotation player (In 2007 - a year I picked at random - Dudley, Wilson Chandler, Fernandez, Brooks, Afflalo, Splitter). Those late 1st rounders aren't worthless, you just need different expectations.
 
simmonjm said:
Kev4029 said:
Well, I guess we are going to find out if Chris Sheridan and the rest of the NY media are a bunch of rumor spreading 7th grade girls, or if all my hopes and dreams are shattered and I'll be buying a ticket for the next Nuggets game to boo Melo for screwing the organization.
You have it backwards. The franchise didn't put Melo in a position to win every year. He put them in a position to win every year. The Nuggets had exactly 1 winning season in 10 before he showed up and had a winning season every year after he did. But screw Melo right? Melo made them winners, explain what does he owe them for all he did for them? So if they fall back into losing because they don't have him.... what again was it that they did for him?
Melo has been huge for the Nuggets, but he didn't single handily turn the franchise around. The Nuggets acquired Camby and Nene in 02-03 (17 Wins), acquired Melo, Voshon Lenard and Miller in 03-04 (43 Wins) and Kenyon Martin in 04-05 (49 Wins). They COMPLETELY revamped their team between 01-02 and 04-05, there wasn't a single player that stuck around through that whole stretch. Denver's management even with a couple of clumsy mistakes took the worst team in the NBA and made it into a perennial playoff team. Sure Melo has helped significantly more than Kenyon, or Nene, or Billups, or Miller, or Iverson or Camby, but it wasn't all on his shoulders.I'm saying screw Melo if he forces his way to NY, they aren't going to be a better team with Felton, Amare and Melo then the Nuggets have been the past few years or will be for the next few years. He isn't leaving to be in a better place, if he forces his way to the Knicks, he is leaving for a bigger place. The Nuggets did a much better job of building a team around Melo than either the Raptors or the Cavs did for Bosh and Lebron. I'm not going to be spiteful towards Melo if he leaves, only if he leaves to NY.
 
LHUCKS said:
simmonjm said:
Kev4029 said:
Well, I guess we are going to find out if Chris Sheridan and the rest of the NY media are a bunch of rumor spreading 7th grade girls, or if all my hopes and dreams are shattered and I'll be buying a ticket for the next Nuggets game to boo Melo for screwing the organization.
You have it backwards. The franchise didn't put Melo in a position to win every year. He put them in a position to win every year. The Nuggets had exactly 1 winning season in 10 before he showed up and had a winning season every year after he did. But screw Melo right? Melo made them winners, explain what does he owe them for all he did for them? So if they fall back into losing because they don't have him.... what again was it that they did for him?
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How hard is it to keep his desire to play for only one team or city under wraps in order to help your current team get a better return on you in a trade? He'll still gets what he wants come summer.
Its not hard but it would also mean his new team would be weaker than it had to be. Its in Melo's best interest for the team that ultimately acquires him to do so by trading away as little as possible.
 
biggamer3 said:
Juxtatarot said:
biggamer3 said:
Wow, thats the best they can get for Terence Williams? I thought that kid has tons of talent and with the proper coaching can be a solid player
2 first round picks seems like a good return to me.
Its really a first rounder and a 2nd rounder since Lakers pick in the 29 range every year.Those late first round picks are never worth anything on draft day really and get sold for like 3M bucks a lot of times
Yep. 1st rounders are guaranteed a contract, and deep championship caliber teams like the Lakers often don't have 1st round $ for the 30th best rookie in a given year. This move also saves Dr. Buss ~ 7M when luxury tax implications are factored in. :thumbup:
 
LHUCKS said:
simmonjm said:
Kev4029 said:
Well, I guess we are going to find out if Chris Sheridan and the rest of the NY media are a bunch of rumor spreading 7th grade girls, or if all my hopes and dreams are shattered and I'll be buying a ticket for the next Nuggets game to boo Melo for screwing the organization.
You have it backwards. The franchise didn't put Melo in a position to win every year. He put them in a position to win every year. The Nuggets had exactly 1 winning season in 10 before he showed up and had a winning season every year after he did. But screw Melo right? Melo made them winners, explain what does he owe them for all he did for them? So if they fall back into losing because they don't have him.... what again was it that they did for him?
:thumbup:
How hard is it to keep his desire to play for only one team or city under wraps in order to help your current team get a better return on you in a trade? He'll still gets what he wants come summer.
Melo's playing this thing perfectly, IMO. He's flexing his leverage, yet isn't coming off as a clown like the Three Amigos down in South Beach did last summer. Great job by him and his people.
 

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