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It's a strange trade from Cleveland's perspective. Davis' contract has over $40M to run and he's spent a lot of time injured, sulking or both. His relationship with Byron Scott in New Orleans didn't end well either. There have to be easier ways to pick up another lottery pick, particularly in what looks to be a thin draft.
Williams, who's also injured, and Moon make almost $13 million combined, which is what Davis is making this year. Cavs still have the $14.5 million trade exception from the dickbag trade to use either today or they can use it closer to the draft. They still may unload Parker today for another pick. Looks to me like they're trying to speed up the rebuilding process. I certainly don't have a problem with it.
They could have done worse to get a pick. Baron and Mo's contracts end in the same year, and this year's money is a wash, so they added a little salary over the next 2 years to get an unprotected lottery pick this year. Thin draft blah blah...ya maybe for an elite superstar (but you never know)...if you make the right picks it will be worth it. Maybe they get two good draws. We'll see what else they do today too.
Probably already done.
It isn't significant money but if they keep that pick, they'll be paying a rookie for 3 more years instead of Johnson who they could opt out of next year. With the direction the Bulls are headed, you would think that they'd want to keep as much cap space free as possible and have veterans filling those last few roster spots instead of late 1st round rookies.
I'm sure the Bulls don't plan on drafting 2 players at the end of the first round. They hope to unload one of their picks today and, if not, they can possibly trade at the draft. Anyway, with current rules, 1st rounders only are guaranteed a contract for 2 years (Bulls picked up next year's option on JJ) and only for a about $1 Million per year at that point in the draft. I doubt the annual salaries or number of years will significantly increase with the new CBA.
He was a chucker in college.
Sweet. Another Nick Young. Wizards motto: You can never have enough 2s and 4s that love to shoot and have no interest in playing defense.
I think they should be making a big push to get Gerald Wallace. A trio of Wallace, Williams and Lopez wouldn't be half bad.Maybe something like Gadzuric, Vujacic, Petro and their two remaining firsts for Jackson and Wallace.
Wasn't the final Melo offer 4 firsts, Favors, Harris and Murphy?
Yes. I think he's saying that the Nets paid as much/more for Williams then the Knicks for Anthony. Not really an apples to apples comparison.
I reread it a couple times, and figured it out. The two extra picks that the Nets were offering the Nuggets (including the picks that were sent to Utah in the Williams trad) were the Lakers and Rockets picks which have little added value. I suppose he is right.
I'm guessing the Flynn trade would be a 1-1 trade for Brooks, so they wouldn't get another undersized PG, just replacing one with a worse version.Rockets looks busy.
yeahguys making it like Nets gave much less for Deron, they didnt it was almost the exact same. Knicks offer might have gotten them Deron if they pushed for it but if we get Deron we cant go after Paul and Melo was not coming. With melo we can still go after CP3 and even DeronPS Dwight is not going to be a FA, he will go to Lakers IMO. No way Magic turn down a Bynum for Dwight offer before deadline next year
guys are such idiots when they talk about first rounders. Late first rounders in the 25 range are almost worse then early seconds since they have more guaranteed money and have about same success rates.I remember multiple times teams would deal a late first for 3M cash. Nets did get the better player for their team thats for sure because Deron makes Outlaw,Morrow,Lopez better while Anthony wouldnt. But Knicks were better off with Melo and Billups as opposed to just Deronreally do hope Deron sticks around in 2012 since Arena in Brooklyn is 15 mins away
yeah huge gamble it is, and only a Billionaire with more money then Harry Potter could take this risk. He is really nutty that Prok and didnt care to gamble an entire franchise on his power of convincing deron to reup with nyetsno pick next year really hurts Nets. I would guess Nets will have to go after a RFA next year to be competitive since this roster is still junk. Wilson Chandler/Marc Gasol or even Nene if Denver is cheap would be good signs IMO
I think we discussed this Dwight thing a while back, but there is no way in hellllll they are trading him. I'll put money on it.
And it is completely ridiculous to speculate on what any player will do in two years when we have no idea what will happen with the CBA.
They locked into long term deals with Gilbert, Turk, Jameer all on 2012 capIf they lose Dwight to FA then they wont even be able to sign a replacement and would be rebuilding with bad contracts on team and no high draft pick player. Now if he tells them he wants to be a FA and will only reup with a select few teams if traded. Lakers have the best exchange for them to keep them competitive. Bynum and another asset the Lakers could have next year with future firsts would be the deal.I hate the Lakers but i am a realist, only way this doesnt happen is if Bynum is injured again before next years deadline
D-Will says wait and see what Nets do roster wise before he'll sign any extension with them. The problem the Nets will run into is the same one the Cavs had with Lebron. No top FA will sign until they know D-Will will sign. Very risky move by the Nets and a desperate one that they probably felt they had to make. I don't see the new CBA having a franchise tag either. NBA is a lot different than NFL. NFL has 50 some on a roster with 22 starters and NBA has what 15 with 5 starters. Teams could just stagger their stars contracts and franchise each one when their contracts up and keep them all. I do see a move towards a more hard cap than this false soft salary cap with all these exceptions and loopholes they have now.
Tom Thibedeau deserves a lot of credit. The only thing I'm worried about with them is, when is the last time a scoring point guard who is the 1st option won a title? Isiah? With that team the Pistons had incredible depth, so they were more of an anomaly.
Dwayne Wade.Never understood this whole 'PG' thing. The best players dominate the ball. Take for instance Derek Fisher, who more than anything else, is a spot up jump shooter. The offense always went through MJ, Kobe, Wade (then).I don't think the Bulls are to the championship level yet, but they've made huge strides this year. Do I think Rose would benefit from having someone (a la Pippen) to facilitate things time 2 time? Sure. I think the bigger for Rose is defensively at this point.
Oof. Didn't realize it was this bad.
Rose is not a good defender whatsoever IMO.On the other hand, he's putting on a show tonight on the offensive end, and pretty much the only reason the Bulls are winning tonight.
Agreed... and there he is with another horrible defensive play to let Lebron tie it up.
And right there, Rose tries to take a charge by leaning his shoulder in to a full speed LeBron. Just wrap him up and make him shoot two FTs, where he's quite capable of missing.
Bill Simmons on Twitter: If Chris Bosh makes 5 of his next 6 shots, he can still be the MVP of this game.
That's awesome.
Bill Simmons on Twitter: If Chris Bosh makes 5 of his next 6 shots, he can still be the MVP of this game.
Poor choice by Wade there, but a nice pass by Rose.
